₦airaland Forum

sbeezy8:
correction NE NW nw is nearly double se

Expected PDP Delegates by zones
North-West 860
North-Central 640
North-East 520
South-South 610
South-East 490
South-West 670
Total 3790

enjoy!

shameful way of thinking

Source Please.

Na wao. Tinubu paper atacking Awo-s family. If he is behind this, it's like Tinubu is really out on a conquest. If not he shoulld quickly come out and clear things up. Those the gods want to kill they first make mad with power.

Too much childish posts above akin to 'my mercedes is bigger than yours' derogation. More mature analyses please.

sbeezy8:
theres the north vs se in 2015 pdp primaries

NW alone has more delegates than ss n se put together
who will win?

How did this magic happen? 7 States delegates more than 11 states delegates?  Strange Algebra.

ugostefano:
one thing i know is this Rochas and Ngige have futher plans/ambitions. their present postions are not there main interest and they will try all they can to make good use of this postion to get to their main postion. i foresee one running for president in 2015 and another been a vice president. Rochas APGA presidential candidate 2015. GEJ will not make it to Aso rock next tenure because most of this governors will perform so well in their states will GEJ will be ridicule with so many national issues that he will have a poor tenure.

I think Anyim too.

sbeezy8:
GOOD POLITICKING! WHAT ELSE WILL MAKE PDP IMPLODE THAN A CANDIDATE THAT THE PARTY DOESNT SUPPORT?

ACN is like the only political strategist- now that pdp is dying zoning is for sure bout to be dead,

DEF opens the door for ACN in the future

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sbeezy8:
[size=13pt]I CANNOT WAIT TILL 2015 LOL

PDP GO SEE WAHALA!
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I am surprised that the politically savvy sbeezy is thinking like this.
With this imbalance in the power equation, pray we get there in one piece. Imbalance  in a system always creates upheavals if not corrected and nobody will be safe. The right politics is fighting for balance and justice in the system first and then planning for your opponent to trip second not the other way round. If there is no Nigeria or no peace in Nigeria by 2015, there will be no politics and no political parties. No PDP, No ACN. No Nothing.

MISTAKE NO1 FOR TINUBU IN THIS DISPENSATION.

AS I HAVE BEEN SAYING. HE NEEDS AFENIFERE FOR ADVICE AND BALANCE. AFENIFERE WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE SOPHISTICATED AND WHOLISTIC AND FAR-SIGHTED IN THEIR APPROACH HERE. BUT IT APPEARS TINUBU'S MAIN GUIDE HERE WAS THE FEAR OF WHAT HAPPENED TO AD IN THEIR 2003 SUPPORT OF OBJ. I REALLY FEAR FOR TINUBU IF HE ONLY IS HIS ONLY COUNSEL. IT REMINDS ME OF WHAT MADIEBO WROTE IN HIS BOOK THAT OJUKWU TOLD HIM DURING THE CIVIL WAR WHEN HE ASKED HIM WHO WERE MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY ADVISORY COUNSEL OF BIAFRA . MADIEBO SAID OJUKWU ANSWERED HIM THAT THE MEMBERS WERE EMEKA, ODUMEGWU AND OJUKWU AND THAT MADE HIM REALISE WHY BIAFRA MADE SOME BLUNDERS. NO MAN IS INFALLIBLE AND WHEN SUCH MEN AS THIS BECOME TOTAL RULERS AS TO INSTRUCT MEMBERS OF HIS PARTY WHOM TO VOTE FOR WITHOUT A DEBATE BY THE PARTY TO DECIDE THEIR DIRECTION AS A BODY, IT IS SERIOUS AS WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DESTINY OF A WHOLE REGION AND MORE THAN THAT, THAT DESTINY WILL AFFECT THE WHOLE NATION IN THE LONG RUN SINCE NO REGION IS STILL IMMUNE FROM HAPPENINGS IN THE OTHER.

TIME WILL TELL AS A POSTER SAID ABOVE.

so so sad

@ Ezeuche. Let him move with speed abeg. The extent of rape of the state does not require a gradual handling. This is a revolution.

Which ones? The 10,000 employment letters Ohakim signed few day to his hand-over? You 419 Ohakim campaigners have come again. Una no wan hide? EFCC is on the way.

tonesky:
I thought Rochas claimed he has presidential ambition,he has already killed it.Ohakim knew how he would have managed the whole issue,Owele would have been proactive in dealing with unemployed graduates by devising a beta solution when the present administration is shouting of creating jobs,he is busy increasing unemployment. In less than a week in office he has emerged the worst governor so far and this singular has already rubished every other good thing he has in mind for the imolites.

Chai. What a wasted potential. I weep when I imagine how OBJ would have been immortal in Nigeria's Pantheon if he had not turned to the dark side. A man given such an opportunity Twice and even Thrice to put Nigeria on the right path and he kept fluffing it big time.

Another good move.

dayokanu:
Meaning what?

How does this affect the SW who chose to be left out og the PDP madness? We have tasted it and we spat them out

Let other regions enjoy PDP

Let's watch and see. You are still missing the bigger picture. Till the SW ceases to be part of the republic, it will still be affected by what happens at the centre firstly and any ripples or upheavals across the land. That is why a riot will happen in Bauchi and all zones will be affected. This is not about Party, PDP or ACN. This is about balance of power. When their is lack of balance in a system, there will be a skewed motion that can lead to chaos and every part of trhat system will be affected. When a tripod is upset, the load it is supporting suffers upheavals. This has been proven over and over again in the Nation since independence. We pray a balance is restored soon enough before the over-heating starts. You might not see it now or pretend not to but every responsible Nigerian must strive to preserve that balance not gloat when any part is cheated or work towards any part being cheated. That is short-sightedness that can only be corrected by not allowing any part feel short changed enough to start working against the system in order to create the imbalance and ultimately the upheaval.

dayokanu:
Whats the bigger picture?

Nigeria sits on a tripod firstly and on a sextupod secondarily. Whenever that balance is tampered with, it normally has ramifications in the long run

dayokanu:
Well the Northerners have used the "Zoning is dead" slogan against us.

Lets see how any SOutherner would get a post.

Thank God the SW removed themselves from this madness and held tight to the ACN

Thank you Tinubu

Sad you are missing the bigger picture. Nigeria sits on a tripod firstly and on a sextupod secondarily. Whenever that balance is tampered with, it normally has ramifications in the long run. Leave Tinubu out of this.

Isquar3d3 wrote:

how can d speakership b d rightful position of d south east. SE already has d SSG and d deputy senate president. Make odas chop small abeg.#

My guy you miss my point. It would have been easier to for SW to have the SGF since it is not an elective position than the speaker since the SW PDP had a poor showing in the legislature. The SE with many PDP legislators in the house would have found it easier. But no biggie. The SE has accepted the SGF and moved on so OBJ loses big time and the SW PDP unrepresented for now. New horse trading has to be made to accomodate SW PDP which would have been unnecessary if OBJ had allowed the SE take speakership and the SW SGF unless they will now make the North to concede the chairmanship to the SW but it is unlikely since the Chaiman of the BOT is from the SW. MY OPINION.

By denying the SE the rightful position of speaker, OBJ is destroying PDP. Even if the SW eventually gets the position, the person will be so weak with just 3or so PDP members from his region. So he will be clay footed. Let us see how these things will play out.

Jarus:
I beg to disagree with this group. Tinubu IMO is not 'omoluabi' enough to be the Yoruba leader compared to past Yoruba leaders: Awolowo - Ajasin - Adesanya. Obasanjo was in a prime position to take this but he messed up his chance. I don't know any Yoruba leader that satisfies this statesmanly condition today.

But being an indisputable warrior, I think he is qualified for Aare Ona Kakanfo(Generalissimo) of Yorubaland, a position previously held by Akintola and Abiola(which has place in Yoruba tradition more than the former anyway).

You could start by explaining what you put in inverted comas unless you want your contribution to be meaningless to non-Yoruba speakers. However let me ask from what I understand from the rest of your post if Tinubu has not become the de facto Yoruba political leader through his visionary founding of ACN and determined overthrow of PDP  and OBJ ( that has forced him to an untimely political retirement) in the SW. Tinubu is already a king and kingmaker. What remains is his coronation and title which in my own opinion, he does not need. If he purifies his ways and submits to a mutually respected partnership with Afenifere,  all Yorubas will eventually come to hate to love him and eventually accept him. The coronation and title will be brought to him like the Romans were begging Julius to be emperor. Love him or hate him, Tinubu is a fantastic politician. He only needs guidance or help from a group like Afenifere to be a statesman so he needs to be advised to protect himself from himself by not alienating or destroying them in a quest to be a total leader like  his co-senator, Palpatine in Star Wars.

GEJ carry go. Backbiters will always be at the back. WHATEVER YOU DO THEY WILL FIND A WAY OF SPINNING IT NEGATIVELY. Nothing do you.

Interesting. Tinubu has already taken that position. Power is not given but taken. What the group ought to canvass for is a stronger Afenifere to keep Tinubu in check and give him balance, advice and accountability because absolute power will eventually corrupt absolutely.

Kobojunkie:
Yes, ignore the unbelievable #of reports of cases of women violated in their own communities, and children in developing countries, the unbelievable numbers of death due to beatings, the atrocious accounts of maltreatment women receive, even the honor killings, and the stoning of women in many developing nations . . .the main reason why women attract sympathy when in conflict is simply because they are weaker vessels. Not because there are seriously high number of records documenting their abuse and mistreatment.

As much as we discourage the subjugation and mal treatment of women in much of the non western world, we must start peelling our eyes at female accusations and ensure fair hearing in order to avoid the kind of media lynching and character and career damages that folks like Wigwe may have suffered. The cautious dictum of innocent till proven guilty needs be employed at these conflicts between mars and venus. It is no more a man's world.

I think that being the weaker vessel have made women easily attract sympathy when there is a conflict of the sexes. Most women know this subconsciously and many exploit it to the fullest especially western and westernised women. As much as we discourage the subjugation and mal treatment of women in much of the non western world, we must start peelling our eyes at female accusations and ensure fair hearing in order to avoid the kind of media lynching and character and career damages that folks like Wigwe may have suffered. The cautious dictum of innocent till proven guilty needs be employed at these conflicts between mars and venus. It is no more a man's world.