₦airaland Forum

OAM4J:
Thanks for your understanding. And my apologies for misunderstanding you. We can agree to disagree. As I always say, time will tell. It will soon be 2015 and we shall take stock.

But believe me with all my heart, I wish GEJ/PDP will surprise me and succeed, that will be better for me and for Nigeria. Cos I love this country.

Thank you too sir and my apologies too. We shall overcome .

Calling you moderator does not mean I am calling your post moderator's moderation as of course you can only moderate concerning NL Rules or breaches thereof. You cannot force opinions on others of course so there is no need to think I am mistaking the two.  Interestingly you say your post is a humour and you incidentally did not see the humour in mine but rather chose the option of me twisting your words. Allow me my own tongue-in -cheek aproach too sir,  Certainly it could not be because I did not use emoticons. I do have high regards for you of course as a moderator as you are doing a good job to a large extent but of course I recognise when you offer a lame opinion with all due respects and the aim of my post is just to show that while according you your rights of opinion.

All those expecting GEJ to do an overnight miracle over BM or other Nigerian problems after 2 months post- election while forgetting that those issues have been long in forming and that they can not be solved overnight must be able to provide better suggestions than you did when confronted as you were by that poster's question or a similiar one. If Bin Laden did  defy three American Presidents and Al Qaeda more why are we expecting such a sleight of hand from Jonathan and a brandish by him of a Boko Haram-less Nigeria out of his magic box overnight. The steps he has taken so far are what we should criticise or applaud or better still flesh them up instead of jumping in this bandwagon of seeing everything done by Jonathan as nothing or clueless and some other funny apellations used on NL. Of course I cannot jump willy-nilly into such a wagon and do not stop anyone from doing so especially the pro-Buhari-tes but I am at liberty also to disagree with them even vehemently as long as I respect the rules of engagement on NL. So my dear sir I have not offended you.

OAM4J:
Can you people learn to separate moderator's post from OAM4J/Jarus's opinion.

That said, ordinarily I would have ignored this post cos I dont like people who twists words to mean what it doesn't mean and those who cant separate humor from real comment.

I didn't call Buhari a messiah, I only used Buhari as a representative of alternatives and my comment about Buhari was a joke; i thot that should be obvious because realistically it is not possible, and you at least saw the 3 grin smileys I used. I even went after the line to use the word "Now seriously" which should have made it obvious that the 1st line wasn't serious.

When I mentioned Nwela and Nnaji I also talked about them being given free hands and ONLY then do I see them succeeding. I went to tell you how I doubt PDP/GEJ will truly give them free hand. So what is so complicated/confusing/contradicting about that? Truth is, I will be happier if either of these people is the president, but unfortunately they are not.

freegaza:
I have bad news for you people.The federal goverment has started withdrawing the soldiers today.Go hug transformer if you are not happy about this

Any source or sources?

jason123:
What the EFF is Zik of Africa Some people want to force this "Zik of Africa" on everyone's throat!!!

If you must name someone "Zik of Africa", then provide EVIDENCE of his Achievements in or for Africa or forever SHUT UP!!!

Exemplary Life of Nnamdi Azikiwe-Zik of Africa
Nnamdi Azikiwe dedicated his life to "the upliftment of the black race out of darkness and into light'.His Cavalry charge was "Shine the light that others may follow".Using education as a tool he mentored and motivated great leaders in Africa-Some include Kwame Nkrumah, Julius Nyerere, Obafemi Awolowo,Nelson Mandela,Tony Enahoro, Bala Zurkogi to name a few.He is fondly called Zik of Africa-The Father of Modern Africa

Why do they want JTF out? Even with the Amnesty to MEND, JTF is still in the ND.

Same thing I have been saying.

OAM4J:
Good, I will advice him to get all the elders in the PDP and all past presidents/head of states to follow him to beg Buhari. He  GEJ should "dobale" for Buhari and hand over the presidency to him. 


Now seriously, I will advice him and his VP to resign, and allow competent and courageous men to take over. I doubt his ability to recognize sound advice and the balls to follow it

Seriously this is your solution, our dear moderator. SMH. In one breath you tacitly approve his appointment of Nnaji and Iweala ,et al, as deft and in the same breath you say you doubt his ability to recognise sound advice. Complicated ,my dear Watson. However,I did not know that the Messiah has come back and his name is Buhari. Hail Mighty Buhari. We your servants beg you to use your omniscience and tell your humble servant Jonathan how to solve the Boko Haram issue, We know that thou only has the solution. Help us mighty saviour before Nigeria perishes.

obowunmi:
@ houvest: I'm referring to this so-called man of god.

So which of his statements is promoting hate. Is he hating on Sanusi, Bin Laden or Boko Haram. which of his statements is inciting? And which is false?

[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=714354.msg8730009#msg8730009 date=1310842532]can the same be said about Christians without calling people bigots

learn to be objective at least for once [/quote]Who exactly are you referring to? Myself or the person I replied? Which of us is usually biased on NL with plenty monikers? Look in the mirror and ask the person you see there that question. A man said that if the intentions of Sanusi is evil it will fail and what  you all can come up with is calling him ignorant , bigoted and fake. Another calls him eediot and another talks about promoting hate. What has he done wrong? He is not  allowed to express his opinions anymore? Did he say anything that is not correct? The way you all are being defensive is telling me that there really is a hidden agenda in all this Islamic bank stuff. If not,  the expected thing for you to say to his words is ,' Amen'. Is there anyone evil will benefit? If it will benefit you in some way please let me know. Why have waved you bye bye to objectivity in your analysis of the man's comment and you are talking about objectivity to me. What arrant hipocrisy are you exhibitting here? May God have mercy on you all?

obowunmi:
Why are people promoting hate.

Who is promoting hate on this thread? How, where and why?

namfav:
complete eddiot

Eko Ile:
ignorant and bigoted fake man of God.

Ignorant and bigoted fake Lagosian.

Great point Jang. Ihejirika, Ringim, et al. watch your back. They are all around you.

Na today?

This quite annoying. There is nothing like BM. This is just a political terrorist group of some northern elements to intimidate Nigeria into giving them power post-Jonathan. They will fail.

For once I agree with your analysis. Not the whole thing but the spirit of it. BM is just a vehicle some northern politicians want to use to get back to power post-Jonathan.They will fail but we even pray that there will be a Nigeria to rule by then





[quote author=alj_harem link=topic=713160.msg8720030#msg8720030 date=1310692573]which means i was right
my view on this is the same as you

the name MEND is  Movement for the[b] Emancipation [/b]of the Niger Delta

now if so, then Jonathan is the president why did they stop the movement

u see all this MEND, Boko haram, OPC and soon Massob Massoi(igbo) are all politcal weapon for selfish individuals to gain power

remember 1996-2005 when OPC was rampant, OBJ used them to get into power.

MEND Gej/ edwin clark used them to get power

boko haram, TO me ciroma, IBB , atiku and co are using them to get to power 2015/2019

very soon peter obi too would use massob to get into power after this people

the reality is that power comes at a cost, well in this case it is the common man in nigeria

what MEND did was the beginning of the end of nigeria. QUOTE ME ON THIS

they even threaten to go civil war if GEJ is not made the president

just before the election in october 2010 , they bombed ABUJA killing 15 people to show that if GEJ does not become the president they will destroy this conutry

MEND INTRODUCED BOMBING AS A FORM OF TERRORISM TO NIGERIA

not only that, they bombed lagos and yet accuse the SW people of tribalism like they can do the same in balysea

now GEJ is the president, they stopped fighting for the  "Movement for the [size=14pt]Emancipation[/size] of the Niger Delta"

HYPOCRITES bunch of political weapons

the amount of people MEND killed alone is bad enough

NOW BOKO HARAM has joined the chase

"what is sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander" i dey laff oooo

if mend can do so, then boko haram can do better so as to get power

IN eve of the elction when there was report that bombs and weapons was imported to the country

was there any investigation?   NO

now bombs everywhere, they want to investigate after the bombs have been circulated

MY BROTHER NDU CHUKS

just siddon they look as this funny country dey destroy slowly but surly[/quote]

wesley80:
^^^ Since u pride yourself in opening of yansh its safe to assume u r one helluva yansh licker aight?

BTW I read your post again as u recommended and your frustration seems to be pretty much obvious - A sadistic Biafra hopeful desperately praying for conflict in all regions of the country regardless of the cost to human lives or property all in the hope that the country disintegrates and you have your personal thieving Republic abi? Not a chance, if u want independence, Fight for it abi u dey fear starvation? Who do u expect to do your dirty work for u? Frigging coward, once beaten 4 DECADES SHY! Now which person nyash done open?

Wesley Are you for real? Why must you guys always drag Biafra into every discourse? Are you the only one on NL that does not know that NduChuks is a fulani man masquerading with an Igbo moniker? Even if he were Igbo,what's with you guys and Biafra? Does it mean that every Igboman that wants MEND to resurrect is a Biafra hopeful? Why not tackle the substance of his post without dragging in Biafra?

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=713160.msg8714674#msg8714674 date=1310637058]I've always believed that MEND is an terrorist organization made up of criminal gangs financed by politicians for financial gains. Their calls for self determination of the ND people is nothing but a ruse. They kidnap and bomb innocent citizens, blow up oil installations and pipelines to facilitate their bunkering and criminal activities.

At the end of the day, the region remains as polluted as ever, the people remain poorer than church rats.

Boko haram is now throwing bombs on a daily basis and has the government on the ropes. One would think that, this would be the best time for MEND to escalate its activities and demands for justice and their own 'nation'. But guess what, MEND has never been about the self determination of the ND people. The thieves and thugs who are members of MEND benefit from the status quo. This is the reason why their sponsors, the thieving politicians and bunkerers have told them to return to their rat holes and remain silent. Since Boko Haram stepped up their game, there has been No bomb threats, no bombing, no kidnapping, no blowing up of major oil facilities e.t.c. by MEND

To all members of MEND, I say you have been exposed as common criminals and terrorists. Shame on you people.[/quote]You have just got what you wished for. Who next do you want to drag into the fray?

Good idea. Not just plans but also execution of the plans.

Definitely that is part of their source. There are others.

Only Aso Rock? Why not the white house and 10 downing street?

russellino:
You couldnt resist taking a cheap shot could ya? Thought you were different

Then you are not conversant with NL. Bear started as a cool fresh Air but not long after he won the politics poster whatever he transformed into an ethnic champion. Even attempts by Jarus to restrain him and keep him as the face of the forum yielded little dividend. Many times I cringe when I see otherwise brilliant contributors succumb to the primordial sentiments and make themselves no longer brilliant. I have tried calling many of them back but it seems futile. Just enjoy your NL experience and leave them to their promordial e-battles.

2015 prediction for Nigeria is looking quite ominous. God save us.

When did Lagosians ask for an underground rail? Is their any basis for this thread?

Killing the man was wrong. Now the organisation he created has become a monster hijacked by northern politicians. They do not have the direction he initiated anymore. He could have been the one to call them to order were he alive. Also he could have been made to reveal his backers. It is arguable if those cops did not kill him in order to shield his backers. They could have been bought over by them . So this trial is not a pacification but might even reveal the underbelly of BM. They might be BM sympathisers or agents.

Source please.

Political Boko Haram, No doubt.

CAF is funny. why field two of the best African teams against themselves instead of seeding them against weaker teams? The two teams are so good that they should have been at the AAG. Too bad Nigeria is out. It is the Game's loss.

Why is Mark always calling for state of emergency? Is that the only solution he knows? During the kidnap saga in Aba, he called for state of emergency in the whole SE not just Aba. Is this guy for real?

[quote author=Negro_Ntns link=topic=713753.msg8720401#msg8720401 date=1310705161]I know military the General (Nwaogbo) is qualified to serve in any region of the sovereign domain of Nigeria.

His presence as the voice, face and authority in Maiduguri commanding force against Boko is a political suicide for Gej and for Nwaogbo's people, the Igbos.

This is not tribalism; its the truth!!

The Boko problem is a political one first, before it is military. The opposing force to it must wear a politically accessible face to move the talks and negotiations an inch forward and convince the enemy to buy-into it.[/quote]Why so much cowardice by Nigerians?

I have been saying it that this present BM is a political mutant of the original sect. Their aim is to enthrone Islamic domination of the Nation politically, religiously,etc. Probably they should change their name to Christian Presidency Haram, CPM. They have crossed the boundaries of Western Education is haram to Politics. Go figure. These sentiments started with the Ciroma group and then Buhari's team. I think they have hijacked BM to be their terrorist wing. They will fail.

El Ruffai is itill unravelling. We are watching closely.

BetaThings:
Was MEND a conspiracy against Obj?
Was Yaradua from a minority ethnic group when Boko Haram surfaced against his govt in 2009
Stop believing everything you hear

If you are gonna quote me you quote me completely or not at all. Read the whole post and stop selective readings. It is intellectual dishonesty. It is only blind folks or Ostriches that will hide their heads in the sand and not differentiate between the Boko Haram of the Yaradua era and this mutated political hybrid that is just hiding behind that name to inflict the Nation with terorism assisted by their Iranian and Afghan partners. MEND was asking for resource control or fiscal independence.  Boko Haram in its purist state was asking for Arab or Islamic ways. What is this organisation asking for? Please this is not Boko Haram but a terrorist organisation out to intimidate GEJ and the rest of the Nation as promised by certain Northern Elements even before the elections. The more you look the less you see Boko Haram, in its operations.