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Sickos are really all over the place

mens dept:
Since the civil war the Igbo people have not been politically serious. They keep quiet when those who stole their mandate continue to parade themselves as governors and senators. Meanwhile, other groups are sitting prettier than them, even developing their region.

Can you please explain this possibly with suggestions to Igbo people on how to be politically serious giving examples with your people and other people and pointing out those who stole their mandate and how.

I dey laugh o o o

Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!

I like Pastor TB coming out to say this. He came out on personal conviction not on 'God Said'. However should a minister of God, nay, a prophet of God, not receive divine directives before embarking on such a journey?

Kobojunkie:
This portion is what I am more concerned about. Groups like Ohaneze claiming to have control over the Ibo vote INFURIATES me. How many people actually voted for them to play such a role?

From your wealth of knowledge, please tell me how many people voted for the leaders of Afenifere, ACF and other zonal group leaders to play the roles they are playing? Why do you always start flexing your muscles once you hear 'Oha' even before 'Eze' is mentioned?

I am not personally concerned who Buhari chooses as his running mate since I am certain that he is going nowhere but the issues raised here in the report are valid. If Buhari actually was a good strategist he should have known that if he by any means becomes the president, his successor must be from the SE or SS, the two zones that have not substantially gotten their own share of power. So what is really strategic in making a Yoruba his running mate since him being succeeded by such will be highly resisted by other Gzones? If however he really believed a combo with the SW was essential in winning the election, Should he not have picked a yoruba that could actually deliver yoruba votes to him. I really wonder at Buhari's reasons for picking Pastor TB.

thanks debosky and netotse. the naysayers will always be out there. please netotse, post the confirmation when you get it. but of course they will shift the goalpost again. to them, gej can never do any thing good.

Vintage Father Kukah. One of the best.

Oh Why oh why? Why is Pastor TB moving so fast within a period of months? From the pulpit to an activist to a full-blown politician? We are still adjusting to the first move and like a body blow this second move is following so rapidly. Something just dont feel right? I could understand if it was pastor Kris since he has been there for some time now but Pastor TB, SMH. Could he not have remained the conscience of the nation instead of throwing his hat in the ring? Those who go to fetch ant-infested gays should not be surprised if they get lizzard-visitors. If however God really sent him to enter politics this way, I wager that it is just to prepare him for a future role because realistically speaking, he and Buhari can not do much in April.

Good one.

I think that ndigbo are now getting their politics right throwing everything behingd GEJ in order to make a powerful bid for the presidency post GEJ.

Why are NLers so gullible?

Are their adults left on NL or have all the birds flown?

The few goal getters we produce in nigeria are prone to maladies why? uche and obasi are injury prone. yakubu, yekini,. chrisantus, osondu all faded so fast. okwaraji died so early. , God help us.

Never say never.

Funny man. Do not say you were not corrected,Shehu.

Who killed Chidi Nwosu? The tragedy that struck the sleepy Ameke Abam Community in Arochukwu local government area of Abia State On December 29, 2010, when one of its prominent sons and a foremost civil rights activist, Comrade Chidi Nwosu, was killed in cold blood in his house has sparked violent demonstrations in the village.
This followed allegations that his uncle hired the killers.

A family source told Elombah.com that the youths and women of his village has been engaging on demonstration since then, and burnt the uncle's house; So far, two young men accused of the murder has been arrested by the rampaging youths and handed over to the police.

Sources from Chidi’s family confirmed to Elombah.com that the gunmen trailed Chidi Nwosu to his village in Abia state. They locked his wife, his 5 year-old daughter, the mother-in-law and the cousin in the toilet; they tortured him, splashing his blood on the walls of the residence where his family resides. Then they murdered him execution-style, with a gunshot straight to the temple within earshot of his wife and daughter! The killers then dragged his lifeless body from room to room as they jeered, tracking his blood all over the place in the process.
Since his death, the entire village is in chaos and grief. According to a family source, “If tears will bring Chidi back, the tears of the entire village will bring him back”.
What remains intriguing till date is: Who killed Chidi Nwosu? The solution to this query has so far remained a mystery.
Mr MM Abbas, the Police AIG Zone 9, covering South-Eastern Nigeria told Elombah.com that the Police are doing their best to catch the killers. But so far what has emerged is a complex maze where accusing fingers are pointed in all direction to: Ex-Governor, Abia State, Orji Uzo Kalu - with whom Chidi had a long-running battle, current Governor, Mr T.A Orji, Former PDP Chairman, Chief Vincent Ogbulafor and Chidi’s uncle.

Because of Chidi’s status as an anti-corruption crusader - he had been a vocal critic of the past governor of the state, Chief Orji Kalu, and Current Governor, T.A Orji, with whom he had a long-running battle, up until 5 months ago. Chidi fought fervently in the courts against the sale of Abia Rubber plantation by the Abia government, a case which he won. The company was subsequently recovered by Governor Theodore Orji who made Chidi the general manager”.
Chidi had in a Press Release dated May 6, 2009, titled, ‘Threat to kill Nwosu…Hold Governor Orji responsible, said:
"Our attention has been drawn to threats by Chief T.A. Orji, Executive Governor, Abia State Government to assassinate Comrade Chidi Nwosu, President, Human Rights, Justice and Peace Foundation [HRJPF].
It is no secret that since Nigeria returned to civil rule;
Nwosu has been a strong critic of the Abia State Government, which has been run under the dark. Although Nwosu has proved beyond all reasonable doubts that his criticisms of the state government has been engendered by an indelible love to bring the best out of the managers of the state, officials of the state government and their agents have labelled him an enemy of the state that must be eliminated at all costs.
"Last weekend, Nwosu whose organization has his men everywhere raised alarm over plots by Governor Orji’s administration to Islamize Abia State by building 17 mosques in each of the local government areas. It should be recalled that sometime in 2007, the Centre for Human Empowerment, Advancement and Development [CHEAD] in a similar manner drew the attention of the general public to the unlawful harassment of women wearing trousers in the state, which clearly was Governor Orji subtle way of testing the ground for his proposed plot to Islamize the state.
"But in a swift reaction to the allegation, Governor Orji threatened to “handle Chidi Nwosu”, which has been interpreted by all and sundry to mean, eliminating the human rights activist. A member of the dreaded Bakassi boys who has sympathy for Nwosu told us in confidence to warn him to “be careful” because they have been detailed to kill him to avoid further embarrassment from his group”

However, Elombah.com investigations confirmed Governor Theodore Orji late last year called him back from Abuja, asked Chidi “to come and work with him to develop Abia State”, and quietly appointed him DG/MD of Abia Plantations .

Nevertheless, some have expressed surprise as to "why Theodore is quiet when his appointee was killed like a fowl and nothing is said".

Another suspect is Chief Vincent Ogbulafor, recently deposed chairman of Peoples Democratic Party, PDP. He is also from Umuahia. Chidi brought some high-profile corruption petitions, and a court case, against Ogbulafor. When President Jonathan decided to get rid of Ogbulafor, Chidi's previous work on the matter was instrumental.
The final suspect in the list is Chidi’s uncle, Mr Nze Nwosu, with possible support from the Speaker Abia State House of Assembly, Mr Agwu U. Agwu.
Family sources confided to Elombah.com that Chidi has a problem in the family (with the uncle). According to the sources, the uncle is a powerful politician; he is also an in-law to the Speaker of the Abia State House of Assembly.
The uncle appropriated some portions of the Abia Plantation to himself, but we were told Chidi was not keen on taking the appropriated plantation from him. The said Chidi's uncle is an in-law to the Speaker of the Abia State House of Assembly and since Chidi’s death and the ensuing mayhem in the village, the Speaker has been throwing his weight around, intimidating, harassing and using to Police to arrest the villagers.
Since the murder of Chidi, , the Speaker of Abia HOA, who is from a neighbouring village has also been accused of making some inciting statements and arresting the rampaging youths.
When Chidi started the new job, he called everyone, the whole village together. Despite the presence of the rubber plantation in their village, and the money always dedicated to the villagers from the plantation, the place remained undeveloped. Chidi told the villagers that henceforth, Money for the village, will be used for the development of the village. He plans to set up a panel to look after the money.
Governor Theodore Orji, Chidi's uncle and the Speaker of the Abia State House of Assembly are believed to be from same political party, Peoples Democratic Party, PDP. Chidi Nwosu, anti-corruption crusader and critic of Gov. Theodore Orji is from NCP
Chidi was warned to be careful, but he refused to move with security. He said he ate nobody’s money, offended no one. When Chidi came back to Abia in November/December, he was staying in a hotel in Umuahia and was planning to look for a house this January.
Four accused persons is said to have been arrested, but Chidi's uncle is still at large

A family source told Elombah.com: “I was there, some people were planning to avenge, on the two arrested suspects,  one of the suspects manipulated Chidi's uncle, but the uncle remains at large. Strong suspicion is on the Uncle, He might have felt threatened by Chidi's activities. He was said to have warned Chidi's father about Chidi's efforts to revamp the plantation. But no one really knows”
The relation also said: I know Chidi Belongs to NCP, he is not even a member of the PDP, so he did not abandon his human rights activities.
A friend who last saw Chidi on 22 December 2010, -Chidi died on 29 – told Elombah.com that Chidi’s  wife has gone into hiding; “amaeke village is very hot now, burning houses”, he added. The friend continued: “Chidi may have made a lot of enemies because of his human rights activities and efforts to revamp the plantation. All his friends are cautious, everyone is afraid, please don't use my name in your reports”.
He continued: We were together on 22/12/2010 at Umuahia with my wife and his wife; we drank and ate pepper-soup together.  We've been very close friends since 1999. From the time he married his first wife, birth of their first daughter to the death of that child, and later the death of his former wife Doris in 2001. Then later to the marriage of his present wife Amaka Chidi Nwosu and the birth of their only daughter Ijeoma Chidi Nwosu. We hang out together in Aba and Abuja. When I’m not in a hotel in Abuja, I’m in his house, Now Chidi is no more, his blood cries for justice!”
Benedict, General Coordinator of, 'Coalition of Eastern Human Rights Activists', told Elombah.com that the coalition is working with the Police to unravel the killers.
“We had a meeting on Saturday, then we travelled to Umuahia on Monday, we met the wife and family, also met the Eze Arochukwu and the Commissioner of Police in Abia State. We expressed our concern at the harassment and mass arrest of Amaeke villagers, we will meet again on Wednesday to fix the funeral date, ”
Benedict told Elombah.com that Chidi’s death is a very sad development. “Killing one of the very few human rights activist in the South-East zone”
Yesterday ‘Nigerians in Diaspora - Justice for Chidi Nwosu’, a body of Concerned Citizens of Nigeria issued a Press release on the death of Chidi Nwosu, General Manager, Abia Rubber Company Ltd, Abia State, condemning the murder and asked the Nigeria Inspector-General of Police to find his killers.
In the statement signed by Johnson Obayuwana, Ogonna Anyabolu, Dominic Ogbonna, Gregg  Ukaegbu, Vincent  Otuonye, Robert Amadiebube, Chinedu V Akuta, Eddy Ebulem, Daniel Elombah,   Cornelius  Akubueze, Peter Opara, Ibukunolu Alao Babajide, Collins Ezebuihe, Andy  Fayemi, Bonaventure Ezekwena, Stanley Odera and Ifeoluwa Adebayo, they said:
“Chidi was a Human Rights Activist, Patriot, Husband, and Father assassinated in his home town of Arochukwu, Abia State, on December 29 2010. After forcing his wife and child into their bathroom, his killers shot him at close range. They dragged his lifeless body from room to room, and they jeered as they drained his blood.
“Although he was murdered at the tender age of 39, Chidi Nwosu devoted himself to ensuring that the government of Abia State operated transparently, efficiently, and effectively. He fought against waste, fraud, and abuse.  He fought to protect the human and constitutional rights of all Nigerian citizens.
“Nigeria today is awash with many unsolved crimes, including murder, kidnapping, and armed robbery. The life of an average Nigerian citizen is no longer sacred or protected. It would not be an exaggeration to say that an average person residing within the Nigerian nation-space today has a near 50% chance, on any given day, of living or dying!
“For how long can we continue like this?  What does the future hold for our children if we continue to tolerate this level of insecurity? Chidi Nwosu did his part to protest injustice and incompetent leadership. As citizens, we too must do our part.
“We are asking the Inspector General of Police to thoroughly investigate this heinous crime against a promising young man, and to prosecute those who were involved. Fighting for the welfare and rights of our fellow compatriots is a worthwhile ideal. We must celebrate our fallen heroes, and we must encourage our youth to follow the same path. Above all, we believe that the best way to show appreciation for those who put their lives at risk for our nation is to ensure that they never die in vain.
“This group will dedicate a website to Chidi Nwosu’s memory and life’s work. We will raise funds for his widow, and for the five-year old daughter who has now been rendered fatherless. 
“We enjoin all Nigerian citizens to donate generously. The fundamental rights and freedoms enjoyed by people residing in advanced democracies are also enshrined in our own Nigerian Constitution. All we need is enforcement. Like Chidi Nwosu, we must all fight to enforce these rights at all times, because the price of freedom is always eternal vigilance”.

Benjamin Aduba, a member of the group told elombah.com: “our duty at this point is to find out, to continue to seek the truth and the punishment of this heinous crime. Nothing could ever justify killing a man in front of his wife and child. It does not justify killing him even in the absence of his family”.

On his part Dominic Ogbonna said: “I am pissed that anybody would shoot a 39-year old promising young man within earshot of his spouse and 5-year old daughter!  That's just horrible. A promising young man was wasted, and in the most gruesome way possible. Whether the murderer is his father, his  mother, his enemy, or someone he has never ever met before, I think the least that can be done is ask for is to bring that person to justice.  That's all we are asking for”.

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| More,  Add New Search Comments (13) |41.138.168.Bleep |2011-01-13 10:23:53 Nwangwa  - KILL THEUNCLE'S FAMILY
I ADVICE ANYONE AROUND TO KILL EVEN THE POLICE THAT IS ARRESTING THEM01ReplyQuote
|83.229.8.Bleep |2011-01-16 09:54:01 dixon
I CAN'T AGREE WITH YOU LESS -- WE HAVE TO TAKE THE LAWS INTO OUR HANDS NOW --WE ARE TIRED OF OPPRESSION IN OUR OWN COUNTY BY OUR OWN PEOPLE -- OPERATION FIRE FOR FIRE02ReplyQuote
|41.220.69.Bleep |2011-01-13 13:05:26 Chalya.D
dis is inhuman, y re all dis politicians killin innocent citizens? May God help Nigeria00ReplyQuote
|41.184.81.Bleep |2011-01-13 14:58:19 Lawrence Agusah
There is no respect,not only for life,but for anything,in this country anymore. We have cowardly,sick minded leaders today who tell the people one thing while they are actually doing something completely different as they live in another world altogether, committing their sickly crimes and dehumanizing humanity. God have mercy on us. 00ReplyQuote
|190.25.153.Bleep |2011-01-14 02:13:14 Prof. Ishola Ambali  - Operation No Mercy
Please the radicals,

You are wasting your time, money and life for nothing. We don´t need to argue with these idiots anymore. How many would they kill at a time.
There´s need for a strong movement, a Revolutionary Movement in Nigeria, in order to deal with these animals in power. Please organise with youth, women, students, workers, police, soldiers etc. 10ReplyQuote
|217.175.73.Bleep |2011-01-14 08:00:42 Kennedy Ambrose Yibin  - This is BARBARIC and UNCIVILIZED
The sight of this makes me very sick and tired of the kind of leaders we have in this country, how would a people's leader see criticism as a threat to his/her position. this just goes further to buttress the fact that we have SATANIST as our leaders, this is gross inhumanity to Chidi and other comrades that have been gruesomely murdered in cold blood. The unfortunate thing is that, this barbarians seat in their homes and make use of young people to achieve their satanist agenda of spilling the blood of innocent people who are just using the power of voice to bring about changes in governance and citizenry responsibilities.
We would not stop talking about it, until they stop doing it!!! I feel so sorry for our country and so sad for his family,may God grant them the strength and fortitude to bear the long lasting trauma that this gruesome death of Chidi would have in thier hearts IJN. And for everyone that has a part in this heinous act, may they die a worst death than Chidi's for , 10ReplyQuote
|41.206.12.Bleep |2011-01-14 08:37:13 Dazi
Poor boy, full of zeal but little experience in strategy. Those who play chess are very cautious of offers because non is ever free. These offers often times lead to one's defeat. When someone hates everything one does and suddenly expresses delight in the person who does those things he hates, then something is wrong somewhere. The death of Chidi is most unfortunate but it was tactically wrong to jump into the offer of MD in a state like Abia with known threats of criminality especially of kidnapping and other forms of murder for money. Those fighting corruption may wish to learn from chidi's experience.00ReplyQuote
|41.155.36.Bleep |2011-01-14 11:43:45 Anonymous  - Justice must prevail
It is with great sadness that i watched the gory pictures. This is inhuman.All the suspects must be arraigned and justice carried out irrespective of who is involved. Enough of these killings, this time around the Police should perform their duties with conscientiousness.
From Doris Ovwurie. 10ReplyQuote
|82.128.5.Bleep |2011-01-15 01:57:37 Daltosck Nigeria  - fux
What a bad country with some bad people, ummmmhhh,. i pity Nigarians00ReplyQuote
|83.229.8.Bleep |2011-01-16 09:50:26 dixon
Evil thrive in the city when good men fold their hands and do nothing. I read with amazement what is going in this beloved country -- from north south east west we are no longer the people we once are. It is a tragedy he a promising young Nigerian was cut down in his prime. Do you what we need A REVOVLUTION a voilent one since peace is longer in our language. We have to take the bull by the horn if not we are heading for a catastrophic Nigeria mark my words. These militarised demi-gods who calls themselves politicians will not let democrasy reign supreme. HELP SAVE THE COUNTRY WE LOVE SO MUCH00ReplyQuote
|41.211.229.Bleep |2011-01-17 18:08:02 Anonymous  - What an injustice
when will we be free from the hands of this heartless politicians we call leaders?, I pray God revenge for the bloods of our lost person's in the hands of our cruel politicians, HELPS US OH LORD!00ReplyQuote
|212.60.65.Bleep |2011-01-18 01:41:51 Doyin Adelore  - Final judgement!!!
The Bible says "whatever a man sow shall he reap" I strongly believe that it is destine for a man to die once and after it is judgement.Chidi Nwosu has gone forever which is the misery of God. I could see his killers and the people that engineered his killing as fools. When we are patient and watchful, we will see the disgrace of those enemies of God that they are only meant to destroy and not to create. Indeed, this is pathetic! 00ReplyQuote
|190.58.23.Bleep |2011-01-20 17:09:09 Okorie  - A PUZZLE
I have never been as confused as I ve been since the death of my own kinsman Comrade Chidi Nwosu. This article throws more light to the sad events as I am not on ground to access things myself. I have depended on information from relatives who have so far not been open to me. I had my fears about Chidi's acceptance of that offer from the Governor, I remember telling an Uncle of mine that it was risky. I feel so much pain in my heart looking at Chidi in the pool of his own blood. I grew up with him, all the way from Lagos and we went to the same school- Abia State University Uturu-He was always there as a brother and friend and always had reasonable things to say. I feel so bad that this happened in my own village, it was the first of it's kind. I am still not happy because everybody is still speculating. If we are sure of the person that Killed Chidi, let it be made known, all of the people mentioned here could not have done it together, The one that pains me is the mere mentio,


http://www.elombah.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=4918:exposed-chidi-nwosu-the-brutal-murder-of-a-nigerian-human-rights-activist&catid=36:omoba&Itemid=83

@ Gbawe.
Thanks. I am also done. Our generation must fight and overcome stupid prejudices passed down from other generations not perpetuate them. This is a task that must be done. Thanks once more.

Bloodchilling. Who did this? Does he think that death will not remain as a sentinel in his home??

Petition: Justice for Chidi Nwosu
Written by Daniel Elombah
Thursday, 20 January 2011 22:50
TRAGEDY struck the sleepy Ameke Abam Community in Arochukwu local government area of Abia State On December 29, 2010, as one of its prominent sons and a foremost civil rights activist, Comrade Chidi Nwosu, was killed in cold blood in his house.
Gunmen trailed Chidi Nwosu to his village in Abia state. They locked his wife and 5 year-old daughter in the bathroom; they tortured him, splashing his blood on the walls of the residence where his family resides. Then they murdered him execution-style, with a gunshot straight to the temple within earshot of his wife and daughter! The killers then dragged his lifeless body from room to room as they jeered, tracking his blood all over the place in the process.


Chidi was a 39 year old young man, a husband, father and a patriot who devoted himself to ensuring that government of Abia State operated transparently, efficiently, and effectively, by minimizing waste, fraud, and abuse. He was very active in fighting for the human rights of all Nigerians, doing his best to make certain that all Nigerians were afforded full protection of the rights and privileges anchored in the Constitution and laws of the Federal Republic of Nigeria.


Chidi was a vocal government critic, but always for the good of Nigeria in general, and his home state, Abia in particular. Regarding him, The Vanguard Newspapers, Dec 29, 2010 wrote: “Nwosu, 39, the founder and president of Human Rights Peace and Justice Foundation, HRPJF, a foremost civil rights group in Aba, Abia State, had been a vocal critic of the past governor of the state, Chief Orji Kalu, and present government of Theodore Orji until recently…The deceased fought fervently in the courts against the sale of Abia Rubber plantation by the government, a case which he won. The company was subsequently recovered by Governor Theodore Orji who made him the general manager”.


Now Chidi is no more, his blood cries for justice!


Nigeria is currently undergoing rapid deterioration in the areas of heinous crimes such as wanton murder, kidnapping, armed robbery which all together are unraveling the sinews of a nation where human life was held sacred, respected, and protected. These crimes continue to exacerbate as a result of government inaction and citizens’ indolence.


It is the duty and obligation of each citizen within Nigeria to lend their voices and actions to assist in the protection of individuals who work actively to curb the excesses in government, thereby forcing the government to provide protections to voices of dissent and opposition. Chidi was one such voice.


Freedom of Expression is the essence of a democracy. Rigorous debate and disputation is a necessary part of the true democratic process. Respect and toleration of the opinions sincerely held by others based on reason, facts, and principle is a sine qua non if Nigeria is going to evolve and take her place among other civilized nations with sound functioning democracies. Let’s be reminded of Voltaire’s dictum regarding the value of not silencing opposing voices in democratic states. He said even if, “I disapprove of what you say, I will defend to the death your right to say it."


We encourage anyone with any information that could lead to the arrest, prosecution and conviction of those responsible to contact the Nigeria Police.


The Nigerian people and the media cannot afford to continue standing by, while young talents with lots of promises for the Nigerian State and killed off one by one. Chidi’s brutal murder deserves a comprehensive investigation that follows the evidence wherever it leads, and should not stop even with the arrest and prosecution of the actual people who pulled the trigger. It is reasonable to expect that there is more to Chidi’s murder than the actions of the criminals who killed him. The government and peoples of Nigeria should make an example of this case to reassure the whole world that there is value for human life within the borders of our beloved country.


A very BIG thank you to everyone who took the time to sign our petition for justice. We have 151 signatories as of this morning, from nearly a dozen countries across the globe! That's totally awesome!
http://petitions.wazobianpools.com/

Your collective voice has also attracted a few International Human Rights Organisations who are currently exploring how they too can lend their own voice to the demand for JUSTICE. More details on that later.

Fellow citizens, the petition drive can not go on forever. Your message has to be forwarded to the powers that be in Nigeria, and we intend to do so early next week. The petition drive will therefore close shortly. This is the final call for signatures! If you have not signed the petition yet, now is your final chance to do so!

Why should you support our petition? Because the Nigerian Judiciary is anemic and unpredictable! Its legislature is as weak as it is expensive, and its law enforcement has very little independence.

The only thing standing between absolute Governmental waywardness, and the rights of the citizen, therefore, are these few men and women who risk their lives and comfort to contest the impunity of state officials and other powerful interests. That, above all, is what Chidi Nwosu lived for.

We can not bring Chidi back for her five-year old daughter, but we can send a STRONG message to his murderers -that in these days of Wikileaks, our own Nigerian activists and media men are NOT for murder or harrasment. Please add your voice to that message by clicking the link below

http://donations.wazobianpools.com/chidi.nwosu

Thank you again for your support, and may you have a wonderful 2011.


http://www.elombah.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5011:justice-for-chidi-nwosu&catid=52:daniel-elombah&Itemid=73

[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=593202.msg7617940#msg7617940 date=1296179545]houvest, you think you can bully me into posting in the manner that suits you alone? I thought you were smarter than that. Be advised that you just reported yourself to the authorities by stating that you will stalk me and derail my threads if they don't meet your insane standard. When that happens you'll be reported promptly. olodo[/quote]Take it any way you want.He that comes to equity must come with clean hands. So your threat of running off to admin does not scare me. You must stop your Igbo subversiveness if you want the admins to listen to you Shehu Dan Musa.

@ T9ksy.

My bad. I thought you were corrigible. I am not the type you can bait into tribal mudslinging. Go on. Continue your  wallowing in the gutter, funny conjectures, prejudiced conclusions, general revisionism and supremacist feelings if they make you sleep better at night. It does not occur to you that Igbos can point to as much or even more betrayals by Yorubas than you are pointing out  I think the virtues of an East/ West raprochment cannot be grasped by a mind fully occupied by how to put others down in other to feel good.  I just hope that one day you will grow up and grow out of such a juvenile and negative mindset and your posts or at least majority of them will edify all or at least most. Your fellow Yorubas like Shango Thor are already thinking East /West. You can remain in the 40s and 50s.

@ Gbawe

I for one do not believe in this majority/ minority nonsense. So from your 'clearer' explanation, we should have a different set of rules for the minorities and a another for the so-called majorities? SMH. Is this not some sort of apartheid? Even if such holds for Blacks in Europe and Us, certainly not here at home. This is all so nauseating and I really feel sick hearing this from one like you. I am really alarmed at such closet views of respected Nlanders. Does it mean that secretly we do not actually believe that we are all eqaul? Disturbing. Which of the ex leaders  of Nigeria can you point to as filled with sophistication? Counting Ahmadu Bello, Shehu Shagari, OBJ and Yaradua and leaving out the military? How come their sophistication left Nigeria in this present state? Now include the military and see that to all intents and purposes Nigeria is yet to get a great Leader both from the minorities and the majorities. Why not let's try GEJ. He might turn out to be it. It is morning yet on creation day so FGS let's give him a chance.

I beg to dis agree with you here. It appears to me  to be some sort of bigotry to associate once capabilities or not to his place or Zone of origin. I do not, like many, agree with hasty verdicts of ineptitude on GEJ despite the few mis-steps you mentioned. Even if we assume but not conceeding that he is, should he not be held accountable minus his place of origin. I'm baffled at such logic. Granted that one's place of origin affects his outlook on life, I believe that leadership is a gift and anybody from any where can have it. We've seen past and present sophisticated leadership from the minorities and also have seen HORRIBLE, WASTEFUL, THIEVING, INEPT AND DEVIL-MAY-CARE leadership from the majorities. So please let us seperate issues properly. It is even more wrong to assume that fans of Jonathan are only or mostly from the minorities. So so wrong. Even here on NL, It even appears that the minorities are very few on his fan base and I have not ran into any argument where his fans are propagating a 'dem against us talk'. Can you point me to any. I personally think that folks like Beaf are very logical in their presentations more often than not, even if tenacious to the point of obstinacy that may leave some bad taste in the mouth of their opponents. Making a reductionist classification of their arguments is just what it is; reductionism, a small step from bigotry.

Hope is a product of faith. without faith, there can be no hope. You only hope on something you ab initio have faith that it is possible. Most suicides had lost both. We need to keep believing in Nigeria, Once we stop, splitting up might be in a thouisand pieces then we shall understand what hopelessness means and what lack of faith results to.

If you have no hope nor faith then what is the debate for/ What is left is for a mass hara-kiri. You must have both before you think of the next step. They have nothing to do with churches or mosques but are the sine qua non for personal survival before even National survival.

[/quote][quote author=Gbawe link=topic=593399.msg7610504#msg7610504 date=1296087723]Dont mind the 'olodo'. The next time some Nigerians , from the majority ethnic groups are arguing , even if erroneously, that minority groups are not sophisticated enough to lead Nigeria , they will use the 'area champion' utterances of folks like Beaf to buttress their point i.e Patience Jonathan is "another man's wife" when she effs up but she is "her excellency" first Lady to all Nigerians when Jonathan needs to cited as an effective President.

Gbawe did you type this in error? That does not sound like the you I have been reading. What has minority or majority got with sophistication in leadership? Though you put a caveat for an escape, I still find citing such an example distasteful and very much unlike you or am I missing something?

spyder880:
Faith belongs in the religion section, did you lose your way?

Pity you do not know what faith is. Where then do you stand in your espousals? Sample of your posts here:

While acknowledging some good points you made, we should guard against fostering pessemistic views that may end up killing the little hope for people who wish to try to straighten their lives even while living under a bungling government so selfish it hurts.

You are promoting hope and denying faith. Contradictory.

Of course any time you start your deceitful anti-Igbo campaigns, we shall find you and derail your thread. If you want your thread discussed properly, then present it objectively and dispassionately and do not insert anti-igbo nuances surreptitiously in the name of nationalism. We know you Shehu Abdulkadr Dan iska.


[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=593202.msg7613196#msg7613196 date=1296131201]@houvest, face the issue of the thread and stop this lame attempt to derail the thread. Same goes to you, Beaf (Emperor without clothes). Shehu ko, ologbama ni.[/quote]

T9ksy:
Abi O. . . . . .prophecy indeed!!!

This is exactly the reason why the country is stagnant and will remain so for another 50years
- always waiting for a supreme being to solve our problems for us.

In the interim tho', "pope dey enjoy, imam dey gbaladun, " whilst my people are still doing "49 sitting, 99 standing"


Na only them dey see prophecy. My (African) God too appeared to me whilst i was Ph.ocking
a very hot Latino ch.ick. he told me that the country called "nigeria" will never attain its rightful place
in the comity of nations. . . . . . . UNLESS It breaks up!mak everyone take care of hin ppl.

Anything else is just. . . . . . . . . . . .Perambulating!!!

spyder880:
Na wao, what can we do without someone smuggling religion into the topic? Prophecy indeed.

Oh thee of little faith

Well it appears you neither know me nor are willing to. If so you will know what I have always stood for on NL. I know you and your posts and view points pretty well. I know your subversions against Ndigbo, your belittling of Zik , arguably the greatest Nigerian Nationalist( hail Nationalst nduchuk), your 'tolo' celebration of the 66 ethnic cleansing of Ndigbo in the North, your recent advocacies for a Buhari/ Ribadu cooperation and many more. Can you point to a singular post of mine that is negative  to Nigeria or any of its people or elder statesmen except if it is directed at bigots or arrogant folks with an unholy agenda of national domination and destruction?I know you pretty well and your fulani agenda. So do not come preaching at me. Only Newbies on Nl can be taken in by your 'neo nationalist' stance. I still remember my first encounter with you on NL . When you and Babapupa and Afam nearly set Nigeria on fire on NL with your mutual bile and hate and I had to call you three to order. So talk some as the Ghanaians will say.
It is however possible you have had a Damascus experience and are willing to stop your bigotry. If so let's know and assess it. However as of now, you are still you.

As for PDP, I am an advocate for all votes count but in your case I might have to pass. Nobody is begging you to vote for PDP but May 29 is not far off.


[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=593202.msg7612153#msg7612153 date=1296120604]You and many others like you are incapable or have great difficulty in discussing issues facing Nigeria through a prism other than a tribal, ethnic, or regional one. This ailment is so bad that many of you can never see anything wrong with politicians as long as the politicians are from your region. You have erroneously concluded that I have a feudal and imperialistic fulani agenda and that I am an advocate of a Buhari/Ribadu or North/SW Combo. It suffices to say that you are completely wrong on both counts, but I respect your opinion nontheless.

I reserve the right to comment on any issue regardless of what you tribal bigots may think. As for the Ole n tel'Alfa, Mallam Beef, the day you can name a single fault of GEJ's, will be the day that pigs will fly through Ughelli.

houvest, carry ya wahala go, I will not vote for PDP no matter how angry you become, call me all the names you wish. The issue is about Nigeria for me and not some tribal interest. olodo[/quote]