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If the part about  Obi and Ohakim is true I am left to wonder what's really wrong with Peter Obi. It appears that now he has got a second term, he does not care again. I begin to suspect that he is not the man Anambrarians thought and may have deceived Ikemba into raising his hand. Ohakim should be commended for what he did even if they were politaically motivated.

Please keep voting individuals not parties. All the parties have both good and bad . Let those who want to vote parties continue.

alex101:
Folks need to ignore that Yoruba pros.ti.tute/crack-head called kobojunkie. That thing is known to post crap in order to defend her fulani masters because its/her love-vendor happens to be a hausa/fulani animal.

The animal called kobojunkie is a deranged junkie who has spent all its/her life living on section 8 and food stamps, while also remaining a crystal meth addict.

Pal please cut out the insults. Try and maintain civility in your discourse.

Kobojunkie:
Correction  . . . that would be the half-baked history you learnt!! Ethnic killings predate even the comming of the white man. Correct yourself please! Nigeria was no Utopia before that time and it is senseless to think that it become one at some point afterwards and then it all went to hell in 1966. NO, that is not what happened. Well, I would at least that you take your own advice first!What President? The very one who rode the wave of ethnic divide to victory last week? You need to get yourself better mentors!

1966 was a civil war but ethnic differences and violence predate that war. 1999 we decided as a nation to, even with all the differences, construct for ourselves a democratic nation where everyone is equal no matter his/her ethnicity. Going back to 1966 to look for ridiculous parallels is silly when what we have today does not in anyway compare to the structure we had back in 66, even the period and all that led up to the war.  Again like the silly comparisons made constantly of Obama and Jonathan,  we need to get our heads right and focus on what the issue is today rather than creating fantastical ideas that mean nothing to the issue at hand at the end of the day.

Please educate me on when this sovereign national conference took place in 1999 or who are the 'we' you keep talking about that made such a nationalist decision in the magical year,1999.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=656865.msg8230914#msg8230914 date=1304111693]Anambra and Imo are the craziest states in Alaigbo. I wonder why Abia hasn't lived up to its expectation.[/quote]Who was rigged out in Abia? Please educate me.

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enyojo:
From Beaf
What other option do you have to Saharareporters? Thisday and Compass ofcourse or better still PM News
Not holding brief for SR or any other anti-Buhari Media firm, I strongly believe that a Media outfit that takes the word straight from the mouth of INEC to serve it red hot, and apologizes anytime it errs is worthy of our collective trust.
To me, as far as online media is concerned, after Reuters, it is saharareporters, (ofcourse Empowered Newswire is in coma)

Sahara what? SMH.

Soon it will be said that Jonathan made folks to fall sick, some to develop leprosy, and the hated to die. Give it up folks. GEJ has won and should be allowed his peace. Why should Ohakim's machinations be attributed to GEJ? The elections were not perfect but rigging can only go so far under Jega that is why with all his intrigues Ohakim is still trailing behind Rochas and will eventually lose. Ohakim is the culprit not Jonathan. Quoting what he said during his campaign in Imo is irrelevanmt. Do yoiu expect him to go to Imo and tell them that it is Rochas they should vote for no matter his inclinations. That is dumb and I expected folks here quoting that to be smarter than that.

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Katsumoto:
I get what you are saying but you don't fight all your battles in one day. Firstly, you align with others sharing a common purpose to defeat a common enemy. Afterwards, you re-align with others to defeat other enemies (who may have been comrades before). If and when the people of the SW are tired of Tinubu, they will move away from him. The next couple of years will be crucial and will depend greatly on how Tinubu plays his cards.

Good Thinking. You defeat a monster by biting off little chunks at a time. The Ants and termites have perfected this.

[After independence from Britain in 1960, the understanding among Nigerians for many years was that the less advanced north held political power, while the south, where Christianity and Western-style ideas have long held sway, controlled the economy

All these Oyinbo analysts. Where did they get this from? Nobody stopped the other from growing economically. But 37 years of Northern power have been majorly by military coups that have systematically tried to emasculate the SE and SS economically. Certainly not because of any silly understanding. who is feeding them this garbage? How can any group have an understanding with another to concede their God-given right to rule to the other and face only the economy. Utter balderdash. The same analysis goes further to say this:

Their demise, however, cleared the deck for the restoration of democracy in 1999, with a tacit understanding by the dominant PDP party that power would switch between north and south, each serving two four-year terms.]

Does this ( even though another conjecture) not rubbish the earlier assertion.

These folks pretend they understand Nigeria and keep quoting one 'understanding' after another with no iota of evidence to back up their assertions. Only Nigerians understand themselves and can save themselves or otherwise move apart from themselves instead of continously sacrificing human blood to maintain a semblance of unity or 'understanding'.

THE AMAKA:
what the hell is wrong with you? its clear that EVERYONE wants Rochas, but PDP is trying to rig their way in.


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It makes me sick that someone will accept 1,000 naira to vote for PDP, but when that money is gone in less than 2 days, will the complaints start again about how the goverment is not doing anything towards your benefit? forget the temporary things and think of tomorrow! HABA!

Please replace PDP with Ohakim. I am not for any party but for individuals that will excel. Nothing is intrinsically wrong with PDP. Dont let the anti PDP propaganda get to you. All parties have both good and bad administrators. For every Fashola, you have an Amaechi or Duke or Chime,etc.

What is the purpose of this thread please? why are you laughing at your fello Igbos? What joy will you derive if a fellow Igbo is in hell and you are in paradise or even a fellow nigerian or just any human? . Are you now moving the contest from Humans vs the devil to Blacks vs others to Nigerians vs corruption to Ndigbo vs others to Imo vs Other Igbo States? Wake up and smell the capuchino. We shall all rejoice if eventually Rochas is annointed but why brag about Imo over other Igbo states? Ndigbo are on a journey from egypt to the promised land and have probably put their feet on the Jordan river if Rochas is declared winner but have not crossed over yet. Please quit being shortsighted and see the larger picture.

@ Reference. Thanks for such insightful analysis.

The prognosis looks good and worthy of pursuit but the leadership must be made to deliver. AD and UPN before her governed all the SW states at one time or the other. ACN is now doing same so it is not new. Nigerian politicians keep taking the led for a ride so the bolded needs be seriously pursued and leaders made to account for their stewardship not only in the SW but all over the Nation else all the euphoria will be  over nothing.


[quote author=ekt_bear link=topic=655533.msg8219148#msg8219148 date=1303966875]^-- Alright. Hopefully someone will tell us specifically what the guarantee looks like. I think I read it in a power point of some sort, but cannot find it just now.

Meanwhile, I'm hoping that this weekend I'll have time to get a better sense of the feasibility of rail in the SW. There is a ton of stuff online as well as this interesting looking book (http://www.amazon.com/New-Departures-Rethinking-Passenger-Twenty-First/dp/0813122112/).

If it looks like it is feasible, this is something we need to do more than chat about on Nairaland. . . we need to present it to the SW leadership and get it done. Oyo, Ogun and Lagos are all controlled by the same party. No reason we cannot bring this to life, if practical.[/quote]

@ Rhymz.
Bros you keep falling my hand with all due repect
Do you owe apologies or explanation to anybody for God's sake? You normally do better than this. Let us enjoy OUK's defeat.
Looking for acceptance from any qaurter is wrong The people have voted out OUK and given Orji a second chance to do his thing now that there is no mamacracy to worry about. Let's see what he will do now OUK's burden is gone. Enough of the comparisons please.

Because of their history in Nigeria,  Ndigbo's agenda in Nigeria are very different from that of any other group and so should not be asked to behave like others who have a different agenda. There should be no apologies or long-winded explanations about that. Abia was won by PDP because they had the best machinery to beat OUK. Other parties either did not put their acts together or were alligned one way or the other to OUK. Anambra was the first state in Nigeria to throw off the shackles of bad government. Note that I did not say PDP because I do not believe the propaganda against them. PDP has good governors as well as bad just like other parties. Imo is following closely behind. Chime is doing well and so got a second term. I do not know much about Ebonyi but it appears Elechi is the best of the pack or had the best machinery to win. It is not enough to only have good programmes. You also must have a good set-up to achieve that. That is why Utomi, Okotie even the late Gani could not break into the centre despite their seeming good programmes or good persona.
.Ngige is a force in Anambra because of his antecedents as Anambra governor albeit falsely so. I will not be surprised if he becomes the governor once again even through ACN. He just needs to put his set-up together.


So please let's celebrate Ouk's ouster from Abia politics. He sat astride Abia poltics like a collosus but now he can not even beat Chukwumerije to enter the senate.

adconline:
It seems that jihad apologists are changing their story. The killing was /is because of PDP misrule for the last 12 years , yet they still voted for PDP. How do you reconcile these irreconcilables? It was about rigging, yet in some places PDP lost by a close margin, who inserted fraudulent microchips into INEC computers this time around?

My brother I wonder. I just wonder.

Areosapien:
Ohakim is from the Ehime-Mbano Local government area of the Okigwe Senatorial district. And feelers there still say Araraume is carrying the day.
You don already begin dey cry about thuggery? My sister, you never hear anything!
In the Ikeduru region, an obese bastarrd (a member of Ohakim's cabinet) and his group of thugs unleashed violence on the voting villagers, while making away with the ballot boxes to his hotel suite. Next thing he did was use his MOPOL officers to block the roads leading to the hotel, so as to prevent people from getting in; while the fvcking bumbling rotund tub of lard and his fellow bloated crooks congregated at his suite, thumbprinting like mad.

Next time please do not rush to the press with unverified info as your OP. Even if you do please emphasize that it is unverified and mention the particular radio station and remove the et al you added in your original message so your readers will realise that it might be the work of an overzealous broadcaster. As much as we want a Rochas victory, such premature announcement can make folks go to sleep and give Ohakim and his 4i9 gang the opportunity to perpetrate a monumental fraud as he is already doing.

And by the way both Ohakim and Ararume are from Isiala Mbano not Ehime Mbano. Do crosscheck your facts please.

yarodin:
Before all the Yoruba internet warriors come here and start celebrating, remember Abia is not the only Eastern State in Nigeria. Afterall it is possible that Akala will win in Oyo, so it looks like there are smart voters and silly voters all over Nigeria.

Celebrate what? Please do not belittle your post by giving undue attention to bigots here. Haters will always hate. I believe that Abians wanted to give Oji a second chance since there was no strong opposition to look at especially as he had thrown off the OUK noose. Only PDP had the machinery to defeat OUK and his PPA since APGA did not put their acts together. Take the victories one at a time. Folks like Chukwumerije need to enter the fray in order to rescue Abia but for now let us celebrate the defeat of OUK. Let us see whether Oji will do better now OUK and his mother are not there to lead him into evil.

edicolove:
I will like to caution you b4 you get carried away. Being a nice man and being a good administrator are 2 different things. I believe in the owelle but I pray his good heart translates to good governance.

Thanks for the caution but please read my post again and see the proviso included for any forward movement for Rochas.

Halleluyah to God in the highest. Now bros Rochas to the task of rescuing Imo in particular and Igboland next and finally Nigeria in general. Of course you know that your performance here will determine your success or not when you go back for the centre that you actually have your eyes on. So turn Imo into Africa's Japan and the whole Naation will support you for the centre come 2015 or 2019. Congrats Nwanne madu. Congrats Owelle. |In God Imo trusts.

mens dept:
Nonsense. This is an excuse that morons are using to justify this rigged election. Abia State is about to totally collapse, and yet ALL the Senators, House of Thiefs, and now Governor have returned/re-selected for another 4 years. So you mean there was absolutely no "opposition" at any level? None in one of the worse parts of Africa?

Maybe Abia people should undergo Sharia Law since they clearly are a joke.

Orji for goodness sake.

For God's Sake try and keep your posts civil without resorting to insults. We can all agree to disagree. Now can you tell me the credible opposition Orji had? Have you forgotten that the main principality in Abia was OUK. Oji's divorce with OUK must have worked highly in his favour as OUK was the main masquerade Abians wanted to throw out

Abia really had no option to fall to. Imo would have been in a similiar situation if Rochas had not come on the rescue mission from Abuja.

Nduchuks wrote

Don't allow your bigotry to consume you. I am a Nigerian and I have a vested interest in all parts of Nigeria. My position remains as stated and if you think my position is unfounded, please read the post of mikeansy  above. He is a person who is brighter than you and he is no bigot like you. mechionu gi. olodo

I repeat my post earlier here

When a fulani man that hates Ndigbo so much starts advising Ndimo what is best for them, you do not need any divine guidance to tell you what is up and who really is the enemy of Ndimo and agent of the fulanis that must be voted out at all costs When did NduChuks start looking out for and wanting what is best for Ndigbo? A word is enough for the wise.


Do not try and hide under the bed of Mikeansy. He is sincere but wrong. You on the other hand are known for your fulani agenda and anti-Igbo posts. So to suddenly start campaigning for Ohakim should not be a surprise to us. To even suggest he should be a future Igbo leader is all part of your fulani subversion agenda against Ndigbo among others like learning igbo language, answering Igbo names, moving from one Igbo town to another to learn their secret places with myriads of other hausa- fulani beggars, shoe -makers, cattle -rearers, maiguards etc. Do not think we do not know about your espionage activities. WE know and we are watching you all closely.

When a fulani man that hates Ndigbo so much starts advising Ndimo what is best for them, you do not need any divine guidance to tell you what is up and who really is the enemy of Ndimo and agent of the fulanis that must be voted out at all costs When did NduChuks start looking out for and wanting what is best for Ndigbo? A word is enough for the wise.


[quote author=ndu_chucks link=topic=654278.msg8204814#msg8204814 date=1303784032]My money is on Ohakim.

Here is a young man who has made it to the top in quite a short time. Despite his shortcomings, he has a lot of potentials to become a true Ndigbo leader. He is maturing nicely and his second term will make him become a force to be reckoned with.

In Okiwe communities, I can attest to some of his acievements:

[list]
[li]He has touched all sectors of development in the area. He has engaged 5 different road contractors to address the problems of Okigwe urban roads namely, Okpara road, Ndi-Akwueke road, Umuka-Umuokpara road, Umuzegem road, Ope, Eleazu, Ike-Aba road to name just a few[/li]
[li]He built digital health centres in Ogii and Ezinachi wards of Okigwe LGA, with new air-conditioned ambulances attached to them[/li]
[li]Okigwe general hospital has been renovated and equipped with modern hospital eqipment.[/li]
[li]’Ohakim has renovated so many dilapidated infrastructuire in Okigwe [/li]
[li]e.t.c e.t.c. [/li]
[/list]

There are many more achievements to list. Give this young man a second chance, he deserves it. The pool from which to select future Igbo leaders is not rich at all, the contents of this pool include both political harlots and political dan daudus.[/quote]

koruji:
What is this power of incumbency people talk about anyway? Apart from good performance I don't see legitimate power of incumbency. It must be a combination of rigging and inducements for votes. Otherwise, I do not understand what "magnet" puts your thumb on PDP instead of your intended party in the voting booth.

It really sounds like an excuse to do what people want to do, but are afraid to say!

You got the bolded spot on. Ohakim's only hope is on rigging, inducements and blackmail but he will be trifling with Ndimo.

wesley80:
Absolutely intriguing contest. Was in Owerri last week after about 4 years away and i have to say in terms of visible development and organisation, Ohakim has done extremely well. What most people seem to hate about him are his guts and pride which have diminished the trust people have on him and tilted opinion towards Rochas who is seen more as a potential man of the people. The zoning factor is something that however can not be ignored as the article points out, left for me I'll prefer Ohakim in power cos despite his misdemeanors, he does have a concrete plan and has been goin about it quite impressively.

So u saw improvement in Owerri after 4 years and because of that you believe Ohakim has a plan? SMH So Owerri is the same thing as imo state?

13volts:
@ nsnfaz
If you look at the post I said "at times" am proud to be a hausaman at least my state jigawa is the peaceful in Nigeria. But for the record I rather be yoruba than be an iboman. I respect the yoruba tribe and I feel they are the most advance and civilized tribe in sub Sahara Africa.

Namfav was trying to help you correct your original post rather you damaged it further by exposing your huge inferiority complex. Of course you cannot  fit in as an Igbo because of your religion and much bad blood with them over the years but do you have to make the Yorubas superior to your people? Well I doubt that your folks will accept such subjugation of your people to the Yorubas as you did without any evidence but since you say it is your feeling good for you but do not generalise such for all Sub saharan Africa races. However you can easily apply to Afenifere or OPC for a naturalisation permit because a self-hating- hausa-Yoruba-wannabe personality is a burdensome and dangerous one that you should fix urgently.

@ OP When violence is rocking the north and lives are lost, property destroyed, ND militants mobilizing, Igbo governors talking tough, AC denying collusion with PDP while Buhari accuses them of doing exactly that, statesmen seeking for solutions as the Nation is in danger of war and division, this is what your intelligence told you to post first thing this morning. You are a shame to the Yoruba race with all due respect. I am glad many Yorubas do not operate at this level. You need serious deliverance and I weep for you.

2mch:
Orlu, Imo State: Polling booths in Orlu are deserted as only a handful of voters have come out to be accredited

Abeokuta, Ogun State: Soldiers in Abeokuta reportedly order some electoral officers to do frog jumps

10:00am Enugu, Enugu State: At the polling unit in Saint Mulumba Primary School, Chime Avenue, New Haven accreditation started about 8:30am but the turnout is low. Out of seven accreditation points, only one is busy. INEC officials are sitting idle waiting for voters to turn up

http://234next.com/csp/cms/sites/Next/Home/5690538-146/story.csp

This guy 2much sounds very much like a certain distinguished Nler. No comment
s yet.

aletheia:
^Sorry if the 83% turnout in Imo has got your goat. Take your case to the Presidential Elections Tribunal. Or even better offer your expertise to CPC, to help them prove their case.

pointed point.

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So much research into numbers that can earn one a phd in Statistics. They are just conjectures and more conjectures. You can always spin the psychology of numbers to arrive at any thing you want. WE NEED PROOFS AND HARD EVIDENCE NOT CONJECTURES. Fanning the embers of these conjectures is unwittingly or wittingly fanning the embers of the violence in the North. Even Buhari and his cohorts are not qaurelling with the SS/SE figures but are only contesting the figures in the North simply because you do not reap where you did not sow. The SS/ SE have seen Buhari as minister, head of state, PTF chairman, Shariarist and have always received the short end of his stick. And he, AC and ANPP the 3 strongest parties beside PDP made terrible mistakes of not even considerting those zones for a running mate at least in an attempt to split Jonathan's vote or rock his base. So what do you expect? And for those mentioning other SS/ SE candidates on the ballot should realize that those names were unknown qauntities just like the SW names performed woefully in the SW and other Northern names did likewise in the North.
This was my post in feb:



Re: CPC Meets On Buhari’s Choice Of Bakare Monday
« #18 on: February 08, 2011, 06:18 AM »

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I am not personally concerned who Buhari chooses as his running mate since I am certain that he is going nowhere but the issues raised here in the report are valid. If Buhari actually was a good strategist he should have known that if he by any means becomes the president, his successor must be from the SE or SS, the two zones that have not substantially gotten their own share of power. So what is really strategic in making a Yoruba his running mate since him being succeeded by such will be highly resisted by other Gzones? If however he really believed a combo with the SW was essential in winning the election, Should he not have picked a yoruba that could actually deliver yoruba votes to him. I really wonder at Buhari's reasons for picking Pastor TB.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=599791.msg7688155#msg7688155


And what I wrote about Jonathan's chances In Igboland as far back as oct 2010





I have no doubt in my mind that GEJ will sweep Igbo votes. It is only some Igbo elite, politicians and generally the older generation that associate GEJ with bitter past experiences of Ijaw subterfuge personified in Clark and hasty verdicts of inept performance. The youths and the common man on the street in Igboland will root for Ebele Azikiwe more than a certain Ribadu or Babangida ,etc. Igbo votes are Jonathan's to lose. Granted votes will be shared in each zone by all candidates but I am talking of the majority votes. GEJ is gradually developing in political sagacity and politese ( If there is any word like that) and will only lose Igbo votes if he commits very serious blunders against Ndigbo in this run up to the polls. His body language so far despite his few missteps does not show one with the disposition of committing an october faux pa ( as the Americans will say ) against Ndigbo. His youth, electronic and other 21st cy approaches to politics and governance portray him as being intellectually savvy lending him to easy kinship with the youths and young at heart and also his story of grass to grace when linked to his name adds an element of sentimentality and myth slightly comparable to the Obama myth that draws sympathy and goodwill from the neutral, unencumbered, uncensored, uninitiated and unprejudiced. If these positive capitals can be cashed at the polls barring voter apathy especially among the youths, the windfall will purchase a shocking electoral landslide in Igboland and beyond, assuming that franchise is upheld to the letter. This endorsement if true will add to that momentum.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=532968.msg6956170#msg6956170

Try and figure or bring proofs instead of beating these statistics to death else as I once told you before give others the benefit of doubt ,

So much research into numbers that can earn one a phd in Statistics. They are just conjectures and more conjectures. You can always spin the psychology of numbers to arrive at any thing you want. WE NEED PROOFS AND HARD EVIDENCE NOT CONJECTURES. Fanning the embers of these conjectures is unwittingly or wittingly fanning the embers of the violence in the North. Even Buhari and his cohorts are not qaurelling with the SS/SE figures but are only contesting the figures in the North simply because you do not reap where you did not sow. The SS/ SE have seen Buhari as minister, head of state, PTF chairman, Shariarist and have always received the short end of his stick. And he, AC and ANPP the 3 strongest parties beside PDP made terrible mistakes of not even considerting those zones for a running mate at least in an attempt to split Jonathan's vote or rock his base. So what do you expect? And for those mentioning other SS/ SE candidates on the ballot should realize that those names were unknown qauntities just like the SW names performed woefully in the SW and other Northern names did likewise in the North.
This was my post in feb:



  Re: CPC Meets On Buhari’s Choice Of Bakare Monday
« #18 on: February 08, 2011, 06:18 AM »   

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I am not personally concerned who Buhari chooses as his running mate since I am certain that he is going nowhere but the issues raised here  in the report are valid.  If Buhari actually was a good strategist he should have known that if he by any means becomes the president, his successor must be from the SE or SS, the two zones that have not substantially gotten their own share of power. So what is really strategic in making a Yoruba his running mate since him being succeeded by such will be highly resisted by other Gzones? If however he really believed a combo with the SW was essential in winning the election, Should he not have picked a yoruba that could actually deliver yoruba votes to him. I really wonder at Buhari's reasons for picking Pastor TB.
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=599791.msg7688155#msg7688155[b]


And what I wrote about Jonathan's chances In Igboland as far back as oct 2010





I have no doubt in my mind that GEJ will sweep Igbo votes. It is only some Igbo elite, politicians and generally the older generation that associate GEJ with bitter past experiences of Ijaw subterfuge personified in Clark and hasty verdicts of inept performance. The youths and the common man on the street in Igboland will root for Ebele Azikiwe more than a certain Ribadu or Babangida ,etc. Igbo votes are Jonathan's to lose. Granted votes will be shared in each zone by all candidates but I am talking of the majority votes. GEJ is gradually developing in political sagacity and politese ( If there is any word like that) and will only lose Igbo votes if he commits very serious blunders against Ndigbo in this run up to the polls. His body language so far despite his few missteps does not show one with the disposition of committing an october faux pa ( as the Americans will say ) against Ndigbo. His youth, electronic and other 21st cy approaches to politics and governance portray him as being intellectually savvy lending him to easy kinship with the youths and young at heart and also his story of grass to grace when linked to his name adds an element of sentimentality and myth slightly comparable to the Obama myth that draws sympathy and goodwill from the neutral, unencumbered, uncensored, uninitiated and unprejudiced. If these positive capitals can be cashed at the polls barring voter apathy especially among the youths, the windfall will purchase a shocking electoral landslide in Igboland and beyond, assuming that franchise is upheld to the letter. This endorsement if true will add to that momentum.

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria?topic=532968.msg6956170#msg6956170[/b]

Try and figure or bring proofs instead of beating these statistics to death else as I once told you before give others the benefit of doubt ,