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US  by such activities is carrying out acts of sabotage on a friendly sovereign Country. I wager that they are not using only Shell but other Multinationals. This is espionage gone crazy. Germany could be using Berger, Uk,France, China, and all these seeming friendly Nations could all be doing same. They are all looking out for themselves. Nigeria save thyself. Do not ever think that your salvation will come from elsewhere.

With Rochas, there is really a lot of hope to restore the dignity of Imolites from the dogs that Ohakim threw it nay from the dogs' faeces as the dogs ate it already.

Tsiya:
Goodluck doesn't need IBB. IBB needs Goodluck to redeemed his batared image. He is not going to facilitate anything. Other than Niger and Zamfara, his political influence in the North is as good as that of Obasanjo.

He has no choice than to support Goodluck. If Buhari or Ribadu get to AsoRock, IBB might consider a political exile. He is just lookng out for himself.

The greatest mistake GEJ will make is to under-estimate IBB and his ilks. THe presidency is still not in the bag so I do not agree with you because of the need for strategic planning. Even Niger and Zamfara you mentioned are vital. Every vote counts. Again iof you think that OBJ is no more politically relevant, bros you better have another think coming. Desperadoes are the worst people to deal with, they have a Samsonic complex. Careful with such as they might prefer sinking the boat with themselves on board than losing out completely the way Samson did. Strategic thinking is required now not only to win the war but even after,to win the peace.

Ok just saw your post above mine.

My thinking is that majority of NLs are below 25. you could have made each person vote in his age range instead of an opinion poll. That could give you a closer answer to your question.

Vintage IBB. positioning himself again to be relevant. If I can not be king, why not kingmaker or kingmaking facilitator or broker. GEJ will need him but must be careful at the kind of concessions he makes. He should not sell his soul to the devil for power. The truth is that his main crowner  to all intents and purposes is God.

The kongi himself. Another Eagle perching on an Iroko.

calaway:
@ndu chks,
Obviously you are a part of the nations woes sold out blogger. call a spade a spade. these bombing are anything but not related. GEJ has made a logical comment ad you a faulting same. Dont mis road I hate GEJ and all politicians. But the truth must be told no Christain/ Mend  will the reasoning to cause the death to random people without have a direct monetary returns to himself and his pals. Only Jihadist  practitioners can conceive such wickedness at time even sacrificing his own life to kill strangers. E dey their bodi. These act are done by same people who can murder 2yr old babies and women just to pass a message to us. Tell me that you an igbo man can kill even a muslim stranger to enforce a point that will not benefit you. The hand writing is on the wall for all to see. JUST LOOK WITH YA SENSE.

Ndu you need to change your user name to stop making folks think you are Igbo instead of a thoroughbred Northerner.
However I think we should wait a bit before arriving at the verdict of who actually did the bombing. But whoever it is, I believe he belongs to the camp that wants to make Nigeria ungovernable by GEJ as promised last year by some Northerners. The perpetrators may have a religious or economic agenda but the sponsors definitely have a political agenda a la desperation to upstage GEJ and be sworn in on may 29.

[quote author=dem_people link=topic=576044.msg7431110#msg7431110 date=1293662865]We're in the 21st century and since about 70% of Nigerians are youths, it goes to say that most of us (if not all of us) on nairaland are youths. With this, we need 21st century ideas to progress. Collectively, we could develop concrete ideas here on nairaland for the benefit and welfare of our people. We all agree that Igboland is a nation or, could be regarded as such.

Debatable Progressive Ideas:

1) I've been discussing with a few like-minds about the possibility of registering all Ndigbo - both in Nigeria and in diaspora - on a central database. There'll be a registration of births and deaths, just as it is done in developed countries.

2) Drastic decrease of abuse of important traditional titles in Igboland such as Ikemba, Dikedioramma, Dike Ndigbo ji-eje mba etc. Also, there should be a reorientation on use of the word "Chief" as, this is not an Igbo name. We should endeavour to replace it with the name; Dike (which by the way, is a proper Igbo name similar to English version of being a knight (SIR). We should also make sure that people who are made Dike, are worthy sons of Ndigbo of which Ndigbo respect unlike nowadays that anyone with some cash to spare, could "buy-off" certain people in other to be titled. We need dignity and integrity to be associated with such titles and, the people whom have been privileged to bear them.

3) Completion of Asusu Igbo. It goes without saying that some Ndigbo (and they're rising), can't speak our beloved language. Infact, Alaigbo is a nation where foreign languages such as English, are "more sexy" to be spoken than the NATIVE asusu Igbo itself. This is a shame and indeed, a major sign of the ultimate demise of a nation - no matter where the nation is situated.

4) Major reorientation of Ndigbo. Again, just like the issue of our language, to say that our culture is fast becoming extinct, is stating the obvious.

We need a strong Igbo ideology which is embedded and encompases our language, culture, dressing, relationships and sense of self-worth. This would not be based on radicalism as we're not setting out to "lord it over" other ethinic groups neither are we trying to inflate our collective self-worth beyond our imagination.
There should be a true desire to see Alaigbo as the ultimate holy land for us - and not Jerusalem.
Guys, I could go on and on. I've/we've got many ideas but, we need to start somewhere. Lets not fold our arms and expect Ohanaeze to do everything for us. We should be the changes that we seek. This is grassroot changes and mobilization at its best. We already have a thread here. Lets start these discussions. Igbo Kwenu!!![/quote]##

Another fine one dempeople

@ OP
Beautiful constructive post. More contributions on things to bring us together needed. forget the naysayers.

DRANOEL:
and who is to say dull luck is also not goint to loot? if the looting of leaders is whats going to make you go on exile then i dont understand what you are still doing here

Yes others have been looting but the desperation Atiku shows clearly delivers vthe message. The looting will involve all the Ms-- Money, materials, machines and finally Men.

The Day Atiku is declared president of Nigeria is the day many of us will go into exile because after 8 months, all Nigerians still living would have been sold into slavery as the material resources would have already been exhausted via looting.

You sadly miss the point. If you say the Northern argument makes sense why do you not see the sense in the Igbo argument. Why must it rotate bw North and South before it works? The Igbo want rotation among the six zones starting with those that have been marginalized so far. If you insisst that it must swing North and South, it means that The SS and SE that have been marginalized  will wait for the North to add another 8 years to their 38 years ie 46 years and then another 8 years ie 54 years before they both get 8 and 8and half years respectively. And this makes sense to you. Ndigbo's argument is that it should go to those who have not  received a fair share in an unbroken stretch before it goes to others who have. Is that too much to ask?

Obiagu1:
The northern argument was that the rotation must be between the North and the South while rotating among the 3 regions in both the North and the South. So what is the partial info there?

So whose argument are you  promoting? The North's. Definitely not that of Ndigbo. Note this excerpt from my quote above :

What was at the back of the mind of Igbos when thery championed rotational presidency? It was so that all the six geopolitical zones will taste the presidency starting with those that have not or have not tasted it in proportion to the others. So why do you want power to go back to the North that has had it for 38 years as against the SS that has had it for zero years, Note that GEJ is completing the North's slot by reason of Yaradua's death) and the SE that has tasted it for only 6 months?

Bros complete information is vital in this matter not partial. Igbos championed rotational Presidency among the six zones as you said at Abacha's Constitutional conference but the North resisted it and pushed for rotation between North and South . IGBOS NEVER CHAMPIONED ZONING OF THE PRESIDENCY BETWEEN NORTH AND SOUTH, THAT WAS A NORTHERN AGENDA. The contention was so sharp that it nearly stopped that Constitutional Conference.
It is only the truth you know that can set you free. What was at the back of the mind of Igbos when thery championed rotational presidency?  It was so that all the six geopolitical zones will taste the presidency starting with those that have not or have not tasted it in proportion to the others. So why do you want power to go back to the North that has had it for 38 years as against the SS that has had it for zero years, Note that GEJ is completing the North's slot by reason of Yaradua's death) and the SE that has tasted it for only 6 months? Partial information is dangerous and may be self-destructive.

Obiagu1:
Those that were old enough to see how the Igbos fought so hard for this rotational presidency will not want to discard it. Its kids that know nothing that will say what they don't know about.

The issue of rotational presidency WAS CHAMPIONED BY THE IGBOS. Ekwueme and co spearheaded it and thus resulted in the creation of the 6 geopolitical zones where the presidency would be rotated.

If you don't know where you came from, you definitely won't know where you are heading to.

Kill rotational presidency by supporting GEJ, then you should equally be ready to bear the pain of marginalization which we've suffered since after the Civil War.

I’ll keep saying it, it’s only silly and shortsighted Igbos that will support GEJ.

God Save us

I remember that scripture quoted by by Bob Marley and Tuface. 'Whom God blesses no one can curse . Carry go GEJ. Like the David you refered to, Just do not forget where you are coming from and where you are going and Who is behind it all. You will go places and excel if you do not.

[quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=570446.msg7358673#msg7358673 date=1292626675]Have you considered the fact that the North is poor, largely uneducated and holding to presidency means a lot to them. They see it as a way of measuring up with the south. Nigeria is 50 and the North has ruled over 35 years out of that 50, yet they are poor. When Igbos subscribe to that mentality of holding on to the presidency because of increased welfare windfall that will come through for their people, they will slowly build a generation of almajiris that are still scanty in Igboland.

No society in this world progresses when they put all their fate and hope in the hands of Government and the largess that comes with it.[/quote][quote author=Aloy+Emeka link=topic=570446.msg7358978#msg7358978 date=1292631480]I think the north is impoverished because their leaders do not empower the people on how to be independent and self sufficient rather, they empower them to hang on to every benefit that will come from the government by ridiculing the census, flooding the military and holding on to the government by hook or crook. There is a limit to which those things can take you. America is filled with great people today because they resist big government and its undue interference in their lives.

Take out the hope of holding power and watch the Northerners increase their revenue through the private sector in seconds. Why should you waste your time in school when you are sure that your uncle who is a minister of goro is not educated and can dole out contracts to you at will?.[/quote]Quite profound Aloy.  They see power as their only hope for survival and relevance and folks are asking Ndigbo to self-destruct in the same way. Ndigbo need  power not out of desperation because they have held their own and survived all these years  not because of it but actually inspite of lack of  it and actually to a great extent because of lack of it. They need power, at the worst,  because of fairness and equity  but more so because they have something to contribute to Nigeria to help her out of her mess into greatness. However IMO If Ndigbo would  only get power through Northern Tokenism if ever that were even possible, it is better they do not get it  at all because the kind of material such an arrangement would throw up will certainly not meet the Igbo standards. Even if they pick a Soludo today as a VP, they will do him in as they will be too scared to allow him into power but will pick an Ohakim or Orji or Andy Ubah or  an OUK in his place.   For instance Ndigbo desired the position of an IGP but did you see the kind of material the system threw up  to take the Igbo slot? It appears that  he became the first IGP to be booted out of office without reaching retirement age. Meanwhile a Marvel Akpoyibo and his type  that could have repositioned the Nigerian Police for the good of all Nigerians were around then and still are even among the Igbo Police Officers.

GEJ  has been chosen by providence and should be supported by Ndigbo to create the enabling environment  through restructuring the system, true federalism,  correct and unbiased Census showing  not only numerical strength but also spread of all ethnicities, balanced number of states in all the geopllitical Zones, eqaul spread of Infracstructure across the Nation for eqaul and rapid developments,etc. For Ndigbo to produce a candidate that will make them proud, Nigeria  needs a fresh breath like GEJ  to upset the status quo. A member of the cabal will only perpetuate the status quo and even create more barriers to Igbo emancipation and emergence and by extention the eventual emergence  of the right Igbo candidate that will make them proud and wipe the tears from the eyes of Nigerians. Not one that will add more to their burdens and disgrace Ndigbo in the process.

My problem with many folks is that they do not realize that a turning point has come in the life of Nigeria as a Nation. They think that Nigeria will remain the same as it was in the beginning. I have looked into the womb of time and I have seen a great Nigeria. GEJ is the beginning of this.
I see a Nigeria that power problem is a thing of the past. A Nigeria that not only upstages South Africa as the Economic giant of Africa but runs neck to neck with members of the G8 that many foreigners will be queing up for visa to Nigeria. Let us join hands with GEJ to kickstart this repositioning.  The coming  Igbo President will then build on his foundations and take Nigeria to the next level. The Northern cabal has no altruistic plans for Nigeria only a primordial  search for relevance and survival. They can only succeed in not even keeping us static in the same place but taking us back to the dark ages. They have nothing new to offer after 38 years in power.

Within 2010, He rose from a VP to AgP to substantive President and a  full term President-in-waiting. He led Nigeria into her Jubilee, has held the Nation together and despite few misteps has remained focussed in governance, introducing a novel interactive internet accessibility to the presidency for the first time in Nigeria if not Africa through his Facebook page. He has rolled out a realisable plan for the power sector and will soon roll out his economic blueprint. Despite all his success stories from a teacher to a DGov to Gov to VP, AgP and now President and president in waiting  in a matter of years, he remains unassuming ,simple and humble, The recent wikileaks exposes have re-affirmed his sincerety. His traducers just make  hasty and generic verdicts of incompetence and cluelessness without any definitive issues to point to just as a way to call a dog a bad name in order to hang it. They accuse him of attempting to bribe SNG but the leader of the group had come out to debunk it. They accuse him of not honouring a vague and unconstitutional party zoning arrangement instead of eulogising him for defending the constitution he swore to. They call him weak and fearful and forget how he fired Aondaaka, Dambazu, IGP Onovo and the entire Military and Security Command and is presently taking on the oldest and toughest cabal in black Africa. Please give it up for Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan, President of the Federal Republic of Nigeria for Nigerian of the Year 2010.

Desperado. We are calling your bluff.

one million soldiers vs one nuclear bomb =? please fill the gap.

In the Land of Myth and a time of magic bla bla bla.

[quote author=isale_gan2 link=topic=535083.msg7340365#msg7340365 date=1292419897]Jarus,
Good job.  Can you provide a link to, or a list of, past Politics Section Winners and runners up in the last few years?  I understand Becomrich won last year.  I'm curious to know who were the runners-up.  Also who won the year before that.  Thanks.

Beaf is out?  He wasn't one of my finalists, but still. . .
Disqualifying a nominee with so much support at such a late date?  Beaf, get yourself an advocate and challenge it.  There are so many loopholes.  Where is your sorry excuse of a awesome campaign manager?  [/quote]Why so late in the day when Beaf's supporters can not transfer their support to another before the final shortlisting?  To me personally, the contest has almost lost its transparency and has definitely lost the competitive edge.

Great. GEJ is one step ahead of Atikus threat of violence. We dey ready.

So shocked at what I am reading above that I can't even comment. Really need to revise my opinion of some folks on NL. Life on NL must go on but the admins need to up the ante on their jobs for NL to reach higher levels in every area.

Ndigbo are far from being united for now but are on that path. Thanks to Ralph Uwechue's sagacity and vision. The Naysayers will thank him later.

Some kind of PLea bargain. Not the first nor will it be the last

Shell Oh Shell
Thy Comeuppance is by the corner.
Be Prepared

kalu who?