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Icon4s:
Congratulations England.

Though I wanted Spain to win sha.

something silently is happening in that country's football....
if well managed...it could extend/translate to their senior men's football team...

England just won the under 17 world cup...

komekn:
It's pretty much simple these so called old legs as you call them. Are tried tested and proven at the highest levels if football.

These young ones are mainly untested, unproven and yet to play anywhere near the highest levels of football.

Essentially these players have just one quality they are young. After that potential but not much else in comparison. So why not call all these potential and test them against the old legs. Because the current best RB in the world is Brazilian international Danny Alves who is 34. Or should we talk about Evra French international who is 36.

I prefer the best players young or old if you are good enough you are old enough.

you and I know the mystery behind the age of this players...it won't be good we start wash our dirty linens here....

you always talk ill of Africa football ages when you want to promote your players...born somewhere in Europe but turn the table around when....you wanna promote your old Nigeria players....

so take a look at the ages of those players you're talking part and tell me with all sincerity if they're true....

TheGoodJoe:
The judgment goes to the approach on the field. Even if Rohr had ten tech assistants, we can not deny the fact that in the game against South Africa, there was deficiency in the reading of the game. Also some of our team play and coaching shows gap in the depth of our technical play.

Unless proven otherwise from our games, I will opt for a sound tactician to join the crew. My pick remains Amunike.

God forbid amuneke work wit the super eagles...
amuneke is one man with so much knowledge of football but his greed is his problem...
he is someone I think is only after the money he will make and not the name and reputation he will get....

please...I don't want him near the eagles...

you can create a team and put him in charge of your team...and not super eagles ..

forgiveness:
If we can't get Akpoguma, Uduokhai, Ilori, Iorfa and Torunarigha then I think Ambrose and Omeruo should be given the chance though I am not impressed with Omeruo because he was not impressive the last time I watched him.

just relax we will definetely get a good back up prior the World cup

Omeruo Headline New Names In Squad For Algeria, Argentina Games, Ebuehi Returns


In-form Kasimpasa defender Kenneth Omeruo who is on loan to the Turkish side from English Premier League outfit Chelsea has been handed a recall to the senior national team of Nigeria by coach Gernot Rohr.
Rohr has omitted the player from his list for the last three games in the World Cup 2018 Qualifiers, with his last call up coming in the AFCON 2019 Qualifiers tie against South Africa where he was benched for Chidozie Awaziem in the 0-2 loss in Uyo.
The Franco-German coach has consistently maintained that the 24 year old need regular run of games before he can be called back into the team, and with Omeruo recent fine form for Kasimpasa has been handed a recall for the games against Algeria and Argentina.
Nigeria will play Algeria in a dead rubber World Cup 2018 Qualifiers tie on the 10th of November before taking on Argentina in a high profile friendly game on the 14th in Russia.

Omeruo is not the only new name expected to be included in the squad that prosecuted the last three games for Nigeria as there is also a recall for Henry Onyekuru who was last called up for the game against South Africa.
Onyekuru will replaces injured Chelsea ace Victor Moses, while Tyronne Ebuehi of ADO Den Haag who was on standby in the last Eagles list has been invited and he will most likely make his debut against Algeria.
Maxwell Pius

Source: owngoalnigeria

Mickael2:
We just need to agree that if I am right at the end of the day, all those that called me a SE's enemy will eat their words. Sha until then me I no go talk again.

Cc Tbaba, Joebie

right in what?
clamouring for old players to be recalled back to the SE....
same players whose experience and potentials could not a fetch a deal in any top 5 league in the world...not even in Italy a league where good and experienced old legs play....

bro ...there is no right there...
you're very good in tactics...but your players selection is otherwise....

I have no doubt many of us here will make poor coaches in players selection and even tactics than rohr....we criticize everyday.

I remember the next old player that will be argued for...will be taye taiwo....

soetanoreoluwa:
Lol.. Immediately I saw you comment I knew It is you... Lol

Lol...at least I am like my other brothers
advocating for the recall of old legs back into the SE (sorry to use the word "old legs"

I see the lad as one wit potentials.
we need to think outside the box...why always go for change in nationality switch all the time...what's wrong with we....capping these youngsters while theyre still rising to stardom...
we should plans for both home groom and foreign groomed players.....
we should maximise both....just like Argentina did wit messi

tbaba1234:
Deji Beyreuther is on the Bench for Bundesliga side Eintracht Frankfurt

and he wanna play for Nigeria....
he should be invited for the SE.....camp.
who knows he may have what we looking for in ojokolo son....

the dude is young and a great potential

tbaba1234:
Another freekick goal by Deji


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lZu1JDUrvc

rohr should please Invite this dude to train wit the SE prior the World cup....let's give him a sense of belonging....before Germany steals him....
we can't drag players wit germany

tbaba1234:
With Finidi as coach, we might not have that problem with greed.

yeah you're right..... I pray he succeeds

forgiveness:
He is very young, nevertheless, I think we should invite him for the U17.

yeah...him, the other guy born in las Vegas...omijiji i think so and one other one in Austria.....

the only problem we will be having are the greedy coaches handling out cadet teams...

sir icons4 please include in your write up to ibitoye...
the need to look the way of Nigerians especially the kids that have openly declared for this country.
this kids should be encouraged, recognized and if they are good enough....invite them for training/screening...and let the best be picked....

if we go with this approach....we will struggle less to get this kid when they eventually rise to stardom....
change of nationality switch is often not easy and time consuming....

we should adopt this approach...

also....the nff need to learn treat well profesional footballers with dual nationality that have openly declared for nigeria wit recognizarion and value...

for example otigba openly declared for us and even refuse the Hungarian FA invitation all because he wanna play for eagles only to be overlooked by some national team coaches wit greed motives....
then otigba was doing better than some of current team defenders them.....

Goke7:
na when we wan go world cup or win something all these small oyinbo children go dey talk say they wan play for Nigeria, as far as am concerned if they are really serious let them come and start playing for us against african sides that will break their leg first, then we can start taking them serious.

what are you saying?
your words lack substances...
sometimes words of this kind are better not said...
it's like you're ignorant of these lad....he has since declared for Nigeria long ago....
supernerd posted it here...prior we even kick start the WCQ.

your words is seasoned wit racism...

is Leon not white?
can you tell me how many times his legs have been broken by Africa opposition...?

here...you have a Nigerian willing to play and represent the country....and you're making fun of him....

what makes you think you're more Nigerian than him...?

tomoro you will start saying they refuse Nigeria when you refuse to recognize and assist them to stardom now...they're still struggling...

I can bet my last cash...if he was your kid with this potentials you won't want him play for Nigeria....

so please....every Nigeria reserves the right and privileges to represent the SE..in respective of his skin color, tribe or place of birth......

Goke7:
and folks are making a case for him? I think we have not learnt any lesson from our previous world cup woes with the way discussions have been going on here as regards players selection, am afraid Russisa 2018 may not be different, same sentiments ruined our chances in the past and It's haunting us again

for the first time bro
we are on the same page...I so liked this yr response.
thanks

Icon4s:
Let's see him on that stage first and then assess him. So until then.....

yeah...you're right it should prove his mantle on a more bigger stage.

kennysville:
You know it as much as I do. You just being sentimental. I have no business with Success Isaac. Why? This is a case of stupidity on his part. Not role model. Whoever told you that sob story of mikel being the role model has you for a sap. Is it not the same Mikel? Lets not even go there

what's wrong wit mikel leadership?
same mikel and Leon have gone inspired this guys to become much better...
can't you see his sheer leadership and team bond currently prevailing in the eagles...?
may be you are ignorant of the happenings during the Olympics how he shoulder the responsibility of the team....

safarigirl:
seen him, not excited about him.

He won't be gatecrashing the team to Russia, that's certain, but if he has something awesome to offer, we'll see after the World Cup

that's not a bad one.....

safarigirl:
except Martins becomes the top scorer in the Chinese League between now and March, I will not see any need to include him in this team

seconded....
what's your take on this young lad

Dominic Vinícius Eberechukwu Uzoukwu ?
watched his video...think I liked him..he is like Isaac success kind of player..brings his body to play on the ball...good on the air too and ball control.
should his move to Everton or any of the epl teams comes true come January next year....

komekn:
That's an assumption you make.

Kayode is as it stands he is not first choice at Gerona he is now playing in a better league than the lowly Austrian league. How many goals has he scored this season

We can make excuses for KC as much as we like, he has left the quality support of City and now he must prove himself. He is struggling if the truth must be told. How many goals has he scored in the EPL this season

Obagoal has scored in every league and has been outstanding quality. How many goals has he scored this season I wonder

Is Ighalo better I really don't know, they are different types of player. Statistically they are essentially on par.

you make me laugh...Martins has scored in every league he played...
but how many will he score now in the epl or la liga....?
those were glorious old days...
same martins will struggle in la liga and epl.
you saw how same ighalo struggled in the epl but now lightening up the Chinese league.....
mind you...kayode is far ahead of martins
his team play is top notch and has contributed to his team victory more often even though he does not get to score...



from your research...what position is the Chinese league...when it comes to league comparative analysis...

is the league better than the Danish league...or even the Dutch league you rated so lowly...?

I see your glamour for these old legs who are not doing anyway better as a means to destabilize the team...

what will Martins offer to the SE that have been lacking....?

what has he done this season for his Chinese side...?

how long does he still have in the round leather game ?
we need young and hungry players....

junnyjake:
I think Martins is matured and won't succumb to that degrading level. If he makes the team, I believe he'd get the respect he deserves, not demanding for it through ingenuine practices.


I've never heard any news about misbehaviors from him.


I don't want him in the team and I believe Rorh shares that sentiment too.

how is Martins better than kayode, nacho and ighalo....
can't you guys get it...
he is no way better than those we already have....

isan:
Left to me desserts ,Bonaventure,onuachu,awoniyi,olayinka,nwakali,ajagun,and solanke are not super eagle materials for now u guys need to stop calling for their inclusion in the team, Joseph akpala also scored many goals in the Belgian league but flopped in the super eagles. Martins ,osaze and uche don't also have any business with super eagle.

My cf for world cup

Iheanacho
Ighalo
Tammy or kayode

bro....you're correct.
I am 100% with you on this

safarigirl:
my dear thank you for this.

Some people are just here repeating "Martins is a threat to yoir favourite" upandan as if it will make the clamour seem legit...

Martins is not a threat to any of the core fourteen, he is a surplus to requirement.

This guy has not been in the fold since 2015 abi when? He has never played under Rohr, he is not used to Rohr's philosophy and he certainly will not get it before the World Cup simply because it is harder to teach an old dog new tricks than to teach a puppy.

I don't even know who brought up this nonsense Martins argument. I will rather we snatch Tammy Abraham from England and take him to the World Cup than Martins, that is how much I don't want to see Martins in this team.

Tammy will blend, Tammy will find a group to join and he will click with them off the pitch which will resonate on the pitch.

I am concerned with Team Chemistry and some people here just want some bull dozer that will play gragra football without any concern for the rest of the team

His age is not the problem, it is his ability to blend that I have issues with.

you see team chemistry is more broad...it also encompassed...team bond and unity...
this young players fits in well....into this category..
there is mutual respect and the team spirit is high...a team of that kind rarely suffer defeat.....will this folks willingly take instructions from mikel?
how will.they feel if they have sit on the bench for younger players?

I doubt the sincerity of the crusaders for Martins inclusion...because if they can sincerely answer the above questions...

the call for martins invitation will be aborted

kennysville:
Objectivity.... not sentiments. If he gets to camp and is found to be better, so be it. Forget player relative thingy or agent. I am far from all that. I am just like you, a mere mortal Super Eagles fan. No more no less

you think..
getting to camp is an easy ride...
players like Paul,yinka, taiwo, Dennis have still not smell any SE invitation to go prove themselves and you think...rohr should operate the goodjoe kind of camp....call up up like a 100 players for screening.....

bro....the dude is simply not good enough for a provisional list let alone make the world cup squad....

team selection is simply base on competence and not sentiments

forgiveness:
Na wa ooooooo. So, if these two players doesn't perform (God forbids) this season, they have automatic shirt, ba!?

guy relax......you should tell what performance your Martins has made thus far...that makes him ahead of the two above...including kayode and Paul...

you guys clamour for players sometimes that are of no use to the SE

kennysville:
Well he was played from the bench against tanzania so ur point is?

then oliseh was in charge....
now players are picked base on merits not because he was groomed in the coach brother's academy...you get?


that spot is going to......Paul even kayode is there
we need someone of his kind for the world cup....
a player we can offer something different...

safarigirl:
objective analysis would involve you placing each player side by side, mentioning their advantages and disadvantages without furthering the cause of any player.

There is nothing objective when you are just talking about one player and making mostly speculative comments.

Mikel is still in the fold and is relevant to us for now, and he is nowhere near 40, so why don't we wait till then to judge his comment? Or do you genuinely think Mikel will be playing with us till he is 40?


Compare Martins with the other players whose shirts he is going for and leave Mikel out of it, last I checked, I is not Mikel's shirt Martins is being considered for.

BTW, the third CF position is going to anyone who is comfortable chilling on the bench and Martins is not your guy

Dear...your last paragraph comes with so much wisdom....
bless you.......

kennysville:
Could the reason for this hot talk about martins be because he is seemingly a threat to our preferred candidates? Guys please enlighten me o!
Cos frankly i dont gerrit! Well sha i no be Gernot Rohr. World cup is 8months away. We will be here. I just hope our eye no go clear too late

Martins is not better than any of the current players.....okay...he is not a threat not at all because he is not better than those in Belgium or Denmark or even England...

even ighalo is doing better this season

kennysville:
Omoge, take am easy!!! Your blood too dey hot. I never said he is taking someone's slot did i? If you are talking based on your feeling for other strikers chances especially the untested ones, then well, you are right. Its your feeling and I will not castigate you for that. But please try respect other people's point of view and perspective and not rubbish it. If you disagree with my points, you can politely advance your reasons.

I have elaborated on the things Martins brings to the table. Too bad you dont wanna hear the mention of Martins but frankly, I wasnt even comparing him at the expense of Dessers, or Onyekuru or onuachu. Its all about objective analysis. If he is good and can help in a way or the other, so be it. Forget about this he is too old or he wants to retire. Here is Mikel Obi that said he will not retire he still wants to be playing till he is 40. I dont see anybody telling him to shut up. If he has it then, why not? Who is to determine if he can play or not?

please how good is this Martins that you guys are clamouring for?
or does Martins now have agents here on nairaland...

same Martins that ighalo is currently ahead of in far away China in top scorers charts
and some persons are clamouring for his recall....
what is he going to offer the SE?
playing in China and you wanna refuse young lads the exposure they deserve....
you know what....let the SE highest goal scorers and league quality be used to pick players....

to be honest those clamouring for the call of these old legs think no good for the SE....
I have begin to see some as some of these players relatives and agents....

Joebie:
I personally said we should not make further moves as regards Tammy as there was nothing more to do. Pinnick already set the ball rolling. Pinnick had met with his agent and dad. Now that's a top level meeting, not play play like Tammy was suggesting to the press, just cooling things down.

So it's not a matter of leaving Tammy alone. Is a matter of how quick the switch they are with the process.

whenever Tammy's switch takes effect he is free to come to the battle. And I'm sure Rohr will give him a chance. I think he and Onuachu are similar however, and if Onuachu comes good for us, Tammy may lose the battle. But first Onuachu needs to get his chance. Let me not jump the gun.

nice one....
you're one of the peeps here...who always speak the truth out of sheer patriotism for the country's football ..
I really appreciate your input...

Joebie:
Sometimes we go need training materials na. Personally, i'd like these future recruits to just socialize with the big boys. That's part of engaging them early and making them feel more Nigerian.

don't be surpised he will win the heart of rohr via camp....just joking though...

let's see how things go....but his dad should contact rohr...the lad being a German will make things easy for him...

Joebie:
We've not missed out on Abraham. We never did. Seems you have not been following the latest updates here on that situation.
However should Onuachu come really good for us, we MAY not need Abraham eventually even after he switches. I think they are similar players.
some people want to fight me now lol

yeah...I think you're right...
reason why I will want us take Paul to the world cup...if he keeps scoring.

with him we won't miss Tammy much...
I will want the nff to leave Tammy alone...
he should be the one to contact pinnick himself..maybe via his father when he is ready....to play for us..
for now...we should let him be...