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loshybab:
That's the pressure taking the toll on them bro

it is sickening such pressure will make many to be single for a long time.... because nothing turns men off than when a woman is desperate

maidaboi:
gbam
i think we need one creative player in the middle, we need the other two to be able to recorver possesion because iwobi will not perform well if we don't see much of the ball
onazi etebo mikel OR
indidi ogu mikel
will do for me
i don't want indidi and onazi to play together one of them have to sit on the bench

hmmm....how well can Ogu recover balls...?
is he good in tackling?

obamabinladen:
I don't expect anything good from these lazy Afonja yooths. They are known for; sagging of dirty trousers, begging, gambling, chasing married women etc. You hardly see them engage in any serious business. Go to Alaba intl, Ladipo, Auto parts mkt, you won't see them. If they manage to get one room 'face me I slap you, that's all. Useless set of people.

just hope that tribalism will not kill you..
common sense should teach you...that criminals and victims of crime cut across every tribe and region.....
deviants are everywhere... and not framed by tribal background

Zulu212:
I hope she's still a virgin?

what's your business if she is or not that should be something only her husband should bother about.... just rejoice wit the woman

StevensJojo:
Haha.Whatever.

I really like your response... devoid of insults and names calling

nelszx:
This should be our midfield trio but sentiment will not allow Rohr drop Ogenyi Onazi for Ogu but he should try it out. My fear is our LB and RB pairing cos they'd have a handful from Bassagog. Hopefully Leon can make Ekong be his usual self again.

bros abeg...though I don't really fancy onazi's game presently.....we need a player...so good in tackles for the DM slot...that's why either of onazi or ndidi ought to play that match.....
Ogu...can later come in for Mikel... not forgetting Mikel is just recuperating from injury so leaving the DM role just for him to handle or pairing him wit a player more offensive minded will over burden him....he needs to be relieved too
moreover we are considering iwobi plying the midfield....too

Mickael2:
personally for me, with a good creative AMF I don't think we need a creative CMF at all. Rakitic is obviously not creative, Kroos isn't all that creative himself although you can argue that Modric is also a CMF but generally CMFs don't need to be creative.

but now let's look at a situation where we might probably need a creative CMF, I think thinking outside the box is required here. Nwakali plays more like an AMF so he is out. in that case I think Ajagun is another creative CMF. If you search far and wide, we have zero Nigerians playing the CMF role for their teams bar Ajagun and since nobody wants to invite Ajagun I still think we can make do with what we have. I like being realistic, Rohr no offence is a limited coach so we know his starting eleven will still be his starting eleven. So we have Iwobi, Karo, Mikel, Onazi/Ndidi vying for the DMF, the CMF, the AMF and the LWF. now for Mikel to truly play the AMF well we need another good player playing as the CMF. at the Olympics we saw what happened when Azubuike was suspended, Mikel didn't really make his mark in that game. against Algeria too Etebo was the guy working with him and it made sense. but we are faced with the issue of Iwobi not being a good LWF( or please is it LMF? I don't even know if we are playing 4-3-3 or 4-5-1) so we need Etebo there. instead of trying to make Iwobi play Etebo's role I think he should take up that AMF while Mikel takes the CMF but problem is that Mikel isn't the type of CMF that will Sprint forward to come and join the attack, he has his own pace and that will create a huge workload for. Iwobi so I general Iwobi does not suit the system, however I can bet a 1000pounds with anyone here that Iwobi will start that game come August.

and meanwhile Iwobi started as an AMF literally CMF. the game where he played as the CMF he wasn't great I watched it and to think that it was against a low opposition shows just how good he is there

considering the Cameroonians stubborn defense... I will want two creative players ply the midfield....
should aluko be invited that will be just fine...but I don't see that happening....
so iwobi playing the AM role .and Mikel the CM will bring forth passes to unlock the Cameroonians defense....not forget...Mikel good in some long range passes too that will enable our wingers and forward excel....
my only problem wit their combination is that there will likely be dearth of long range shots...when the need arises... considering the fact that both players not really into such kind of play when there is need for it.....that's why aluko is also needed....

Icon4s:
Looks also OK.

the problem now...is who can communicate or relay these robust strategy and line up to rohr? I wish he can get to know these mysteries..

Icon4s:
Well, I understand our fears especially after the SA game. You don't try an UNTESTED player in a position in a big game. It shows we are coming to a landing on that issue as it caused several debates in the past.

Now the issue of Iwobi, if you recall my comment on it. I said I was just pondering on it. The thing is a CM needs to be a very creative player. Etebo is more of a forward direct player that with a very organized defense he cannot link up play with the attackers. Iwobi is more creative than Etebo. The creativity that Mikel brings for instance is what set him apart as an AM or CM for Nigeria even though he is a DM at Club level.

Etebo to me does better as a winger than as an AM or CM.

Now to set the records straight Alex Iwobi started off as a CM in Arsenal. The competition at the Center (Carzola, Wilshire, Ramsey, Arteter) made Wenger to draft him to the wings. Iwobi played as a CM in one of the cup games (I think Capital one cup) last season.

Mikel started off as an AM in his early years but got converted to a DM at Chelsea. But that AM instinct is still there in him.

It is the job of the coaches to understudy high potential players and see how best to utilize their potentials and not just to throw them straight to the bench just like the Iheanacho calls.

The Super Eagles team needs a very creative central midfielder. I hope Kelechi Nwakali too learns the ropes quickly.

cc: Michael2

why not leave Mikel in the CM...because of his defensive qualities and long range passes
and then place iwobi in the AM role
having two creative players in the midfield will be a plus to the team...
that's why I would have want aluko too....he can as well come in as a sub for iwobi

TheSuperNerd:
Mehn Sir Royalty.... I am cool ooo...

It just makes me shake my head at the nonsense logical shape-shifts some people come up with here just to put down Nacho. Mikel was also put down in the same manner and now their eyes don clear.

You give them facts and stats that are impossible to debate against and you will still see them debate just for debate's sake. Not that they have a strong case sef.


Can't we analyse Nigerian football with keen objectivity and Truthful knowledge of the team's strengths and weaknesses?

And about pairing Nacho and Kayode... well... that is a possibility for maybe later. But truth is, in the long run, like Sir TheGoodJoe, I see an Osimhen rising strong and may pair Nacho for the future of the Nigerian attack or even displace him depending on the formation going into that future period.




But until then, the attack is what it is and the best we have for now is Iheanacho.

yeah...oshimen is the kid brother...
nacho...I don't think can be displaced for now or in the future should he keep up wit his development...
I for see him reversing to the SS role and oshimen taking the cf role....that's why I pray these Leicester move for nacho come to pass...
an SS role will bring out the best from that kid and show the man city faithfuls their ignorance of the lad potentials...

Icon4s:
Bros if you have been on this thread long enough you'll know I should be the last moniker to hype Iheanacho.

I know how I continuously poured cold water on guys here hyping Iheanacho putting him on the same level, if not above, Messi and Ronaldo.

But, I can tell you that though Iheanacho may not presently be looking like a player that would take the world by storm as earlier predicted, he is our most lethal striker. It is no hype.

Create chances for Iheanacho to score and see whether he wouldn't rattle the net severally.

Our opponents now know that Iheanacho needs the balls to score. Cut him off supply and he will be a passenger on the field.

Now what I expected of the technical crew is to device a set up that will make the midfield and AM creative enough to dis-organize our opponent's midfield and defense and Iheanacho will continuously find himself in good scoring positions.
You saw how Chile did this against Cameroon and Vargas, but for his poor finishing, would have scored at least 3 goals that night.

Sending Iheanacho to the bench and fielding another striker without our midfield and AM being creative enough is like moving from frying pan to fire.

Talking about creativity that is why I am not just of the opinion that Iwobi should be sent to the bench against Cameroon. Apart from physicality you also need creativity to beat a team like Cameroon. I have severally thought of Iwobi being played as the CM and Ndidi DM and Mikel as the AM.

Iwobi hardly makes wrong passes. His through balls are almost always perfect. He is a more creative player than Etebo. Etebo can play from the wings while Iwobi plays the CM role. Mikel and Ndidi to provide physical support to Iwobi.

oga icon
this your point catch my eye nor be small....
especially your words on iwobi, ndidi, Mikel and etebo...roles in the team
oga experience to be true....you need to be a member amongst SE backroom staff.
I wish rohr know this...players positioning and strategy you just revealed...
but on nacho...playing the CF role....I still have my reservations though
I watched him and oshimen under 17 highlights yesterday.... I was thrilled
I just pray oshimen grows to be that lethal finisher... both of them playing that attacking role wit nacho behind the lad.....will be something Nigerians will never love to forget

TheSuperNerd:
Listen up Mister.... as far as truth and logic go... you are the one typing utter trash and beautiful nonsense.

You see a stat of a player who is undisputably the deadliest Striker in the EPL... and you come out to say rubbish about how many off-targets he's had.

What about how many off-targets the likes of Aguero, Kane, Lukaku, Costa and Sanchez have mustered?

Every time you drop an argument it is to water down Iheanacho's quality.... isn't that the truest definition of Rubbish analysis??

You type good and slot in terms just to sound smart like you are saying something sensible when all you say is just hell bent on watering down the top quality of a player like Iheanacho.

Man... stop acting like a pseudointellectual.... and man up to the truth.


And what does Kayode's speed gotta do with anything special?? Usain Bolt is fast... does it make him a good footballler??

And noooo... Kayode cannot press like Nacho. Cannot finish like Nacho.... Cannot do consistent Off the ball movements like Nacho and is not faster than Nacho... he and Nacho are almost same level in pace... you keep typing with Blindfolds. If Nacho isn't fast how come he could keep up with City's high octane counter attacks whenever he played?? If he isn't fast how come many media houses and analysts always talk about how Pacy and quick he is??


It is almost as if when you watch Nacho, you deliberately don't see some things ... why?? because you have a very biased mind towards Nacho and it has been there from the first day you walked into this thread. Same thing about Mikel who you blatantly said was useless and not needed in the team. But I don't see you picking om Mikel anymore because it has dawned on your biased self that Mikel is the heart of our team.

Kayode came in and had two shots... bla bla bla... did he convert?? Did he score?? He came up against a defence that has been working tirelessly all 90mins and he, looking all fresh.. huffed and puffed as usual... and you wanna make a silly case with that??

Oga.... just take a hike.

Iheanacho over Kayode on all counts. Even in Jupiter. I mean what rubbish comparison. Saying Kayode can do better... chaaaiiiiii... pseudointellectual talk.
Just sit down and eat that humble pie. Just cannot fathom going for something less than the best we have..... #Shocking

oga supernerd
take am easy......we just hoping to watch both players(kayode and nacho) pair someday with Mikel in the midfield.....

Nma27:
Would she have been able to enter NA with that height?

not at all my dear brother
she won't have made it...especially when there is no letter from one Senator, Governor or one politician or top military personnel.
sometimes I think heaven should set these country ablaze....

maidaboi:
and success was not plagued with injury abi?
Success against boro was the MOTM in the match he was just unplayable
and we have a'aron samuel who people have forget. I will pick him ahead of anichebe

same anichebe who just signed for a second tier Chinese club.
I don't understand these anichebe advocacy

Icon4s:
Sorry, they are not good enough. Period!

elder.....God bless you. that Martins and anichebe inclusion make me laugh hard

komekn:
I would rather have the experience guile, speed, strength and technique of Obagoal than KC or Kayode whether you like it or not Obagoal is tried and tested.

Supported by the beast at least that's what most defenders call Anichebe in England on his day unplayable if he can only remain Injury free.

But we should also keep our eyes out for any new Nigerian player that kicks off in the EPL and creates a storm.

Sir please let's be realistic
these guys you mentioned are not better than nacho and the likes of kayode...besides they both offer more for the future than the duo you're craving for
forget these tried and tested thing...
a good player is a good player

forgiveness:
I concur.

yesss...
the problem wit those guys working in the galss house...is that they rarely see beyond their nose
they can't project and plan for the future...
we keep loosing foreign groomed lads every time

forgiveness:
Why should I remove them?

Are Success and Iwobi CFs?

please forget all that Wing role for success
he can play perfectly well as CF....
remember he started as a CF...
if you could advocate for nacho to be played as a SS...then you shouldn't refute Success being deployed to the CF....role.

can somebody tell me why is the NFF
slow about that Dressier's guy...
having him play for us...is far better than going after Tammy and co...who are still considering playing for for their birth nations...
he should be contacted and assured of future call ups soon....
hopefully we get to settle our world cup issues against the Cameroonians come August and September this year....he will get to play either against Zambia or Algeria

forgiveness:
Someone here said he is going to Belgium but I don't know how true it's.

Besides, is the position of all the players in the National team guaranteed peradventure they have no game time next season?

I heard same...hopefully he gets to play next season in Belgium...he may get a call up prior 2018 world cup.

Icon4s:
A striker that is only involved in build up play and no attempt at goal? Abeg.

The build up play you guys are always making reference to was it not bc of the Zambia game? Apart from that Zambia game please make reference to any other games Ideye was involved in any build up play worthy of note.
When Mikel is in that AM position which forward player will not have a good build up play? If you recall in that Zambia game both Iheanacho and Iwobi were also involved in build up plays orchestrated by Mikel.


That's why I say put a very Lethal Iheanacho in front of Mikel the orchestrator.

I see reason with you...though
I remember ideye never had one attempt on goal
even the glaring chance that was ruled off side
he missed it
I just like his work rate...

forgiveness:
Does that not tell you two heads (countless articles) are better than one (you)?

Iheanacho shouldn't be forced down the throats of Nigerians despite his obvious inability to play as the CF.?

We have better options like Ideye, Martins, Kayode, Ighalo etc. Thanks

please remove ighalo and martins from that options....
I will prefer a combo of kayode and nacho start against Cameroon....
then the likes of success and iwobi can be introduced in the 2nd half...
I can't risk ideye in that match....though...
we can't afford miss chances

jotey:
I was talking about ideye

I am very sure....you didn't watch the confederations cup the last time...because if you had watched....you won't start arguing for ideye or musa...
those guys are far from being a striker...
though ideye has a good build up play

Vision4God:
Nigerian workers always looking forward to holidays especially those working with the private sector.

I tell you...we received these news today wit excitement at my place of work...

jotey:
We scored against spain

The match ended 3-1

I understand why you mentioned kayode but success

I think success has the strength and pace to play against Africa opposition... remember as against Senegal....
he reminds me of emenike

jotey:
We scored against spain
The match ended 3-1
I understand why you mentioned kayode but success

we never scored Spain won us 3 nil you go through YouTube... they won us 3 nil

Icon4s:
Look my brother we need to maximise the strength of that team. We need those final killer passes from Mikel which is why he is our best AM option.

Now who do you think is a better finisher between Iheanacho and Kayode?

When Mikel releases those killer passes who do you think would utilize them more. Iheanacho or Kayode?

If gifted with plenty of chances who do you think would bury them more between Iheanacho and Kayode!

Mikel takes the AM while Iheanacho plays CF for me.

hmmmm.....

congratulations to her..... she did well...

jotey:
kayode can come on in the second half

ideye is not getting a fair treatment to be honest

anytime he plays for us we always score

he might not be scoring for us but he creates chance for others to score

not every time he plays...we always score
remember against Spain...he played and we never scored...
please I will prefer kayode and nacho to start...nacho..as AM or SS...
while Kayode or Success as CF...
in the second half...iwobi and musa can be introduced... iwobi probably to replace nacho

Icon4s:
I have read countless articles on how Iheanacho should be played as an AM/SS. So who is that player that deserves to start as the CF of this team?

how about kayode Sir icon4s....
the lad can do well upfront
considering the fact he has the strength and a good finisher too
I will prefer him above ideye...reason because he is more better finisher...
nacho playing as SS or Am...will allow room to shine...as he can as well switch wit the CF when occasion demands... more so his shot are well accurate and wit precision....
he will have a heyday

TheSuperNerd:
And you think pointing out their strengths alone while pointing only to our weaknesses does justice to wholesome analysis?

We must talk about the strengths of both teams and also their weaknesses. That way we get to see the monsters we are up against and also the counter monsters we have to neutralize theirs.

And I repeat... their fullbacks looked faster like quicksilver today because they were up against a slow and Not so physically powerful Australian team.

The Super Pace of the Camerounian team is found mainly in three Musketeers... and they showed it even against Chile.

Moukandjo, Bassogog, and Anguissa.

you're right about the Australians...

forgiveness:
What are you waiting for? The best of the best deal ever made so far.

I think the lad want to stay fight for his place...
I doubt if he has good advisers....
I just pray we get that dressiers and one of those English groom players...we are good to go...
I am feed up of bothering myself over a players who don't care about their career growth