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ChrisKels:
Are the foreign born players more talented than the so called OVER AGED home grown players? Av we ever had a foreign born striker half as good as Kanu Nwankwo or Yakubu who were said to be over aged? Abi we dun ever get any foreign born defender half as good as Taribo?

bro...this your question just weak me.
wetin you wan make talk nahhh.
it is painful to have a player who will begin to debilitate when he is still in late 20s
remember Amokachi retired @ age 27 when he is supposed to still be playing.

we just need home groomed players with true declared age

timay:
You think money can buy sense?
Once a person dull, no amount of money can change that

this is the primary reason why I canvass for foreign born players....because most of this home groomed talents save for the ones that went through MRI are not truly the age they claim.....

DrKlever:
lol i just weak for them oooh. Yes, i also prefere a Moses Simon there. Don't be surprised Rohr will play a 4-2-3-1 with Collins-Ajayi-Ekong-Shehu in defence and Double pivot Ndidi-Aribo then Etebo AM with Iwobi-Osimhen-Chukwueze(Moses) playing forward. That man is sick at times.

then we will loose the match....
I will prefer ebuehi to start ahead of shehu and also Iwobi should play the Am role....

better to have Olayinka start there.... let's see how much liver he has gather in the Czechoslovakia league of late....

or even Dennis can start there too...

let Aribo and etebo fight for the CM role...

I will prefer Aribo though

wayodude:
#otaborgatescandal

The next thing we are going to hear is how he impressed so much in camp and is starting the game!

so annoying.
not even Dessers with 5 goals this season was called up....

Rohr is taking Nigerians for granted...

do4luv14:
hi would like you to recommend me to him on some /any volunteer works, I did like us to chat privately about it first

I await your response

It would be difficult for him to help anyone now....

he told us that when we try push someone to him to help though he later said they later asked him to bring in a lady and as such he was not able to help the guy...

will look through and see to your mail....anyway.

seankafor:
folks here can give you job ..we have big men here that can put you through.

But you have to be loyal

with the attitude he has been displaying here....

I don't think anyone here will like to recommend him, I can't even do that where I work even if he has the technical skills...

attitude speaks a lot...
how am I sure...if I recommend him he won't go there go spoil or tarnish my image...and reputation.

my assistant HOD in the ushering department in my church is a DIRECTOR in a very top NGO in Nigeria won't like to mention the name because everyone knows it...

once told us how a lady he recommend for a job role tarnish his reputation and such makes them evade him in subsequent volunteer slots ....... .

seankafor:
folks here can give you job ..we have big men here that can put you through.

But you have to be loyal

with the attitude he has been displaying here....

I don't think anyone here will like to recommend him, I can't even do that where I work even if he has the technical skills...

attitude speaks a lot...
how am I sure...if I recommend him he won't go there go spoil or tarnish my image...and reputation.

my assistant HOD in the ushering department in my church is a DIRECTOR in a very top NGO in Nigeria won't like to mention the name because everyone knows it...

once told us how a lady he recommend for a job role tarnish his reputation and such makes them evade him in subsequent volunteer slots ...

do4luv14:
one at a time then

firstly to the best of my knowledge ( i stand to be corrected tho)
its only Rohr and Thomas thats being paid salaries

while the rest are on bonues( Imama, pual salisu etc)

secondly they might no offer anything now, but its a learning process i believe

while that of the super falcon is quite unforunate, i blame it on the players
particularly Asisat


and finally where or who told you about or what informed your third and last paragraph

and what's the third and last paragraph...
just checked your profile...
please my posts are for reasonable folks...
peeps that are open to learning and not proud to ask for clarifications on areas they have little knowledge of.

okay.....

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.brila.net/rohrs-lawyer-to-meet-nff-over-unpaid-allowances-and-bonuses/&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwidt6HssY3lAhXPVsAKHVfXAogQFjAAegQIBhAB&usg=AOvVaw0rz9Fj6A6fxHUUqTk2YXsK

do4luv14:
chaiii
you are the one kidding yourself, go and read my first paragraph again, but this time slowly

as for pinnick Nff its not even clear to me yet,
cos as at 2015 pinnick was a commisioner in Delta state(correct me if am wrong)

let me tell you...
pinnick became the nff boss after the 2014 world cup...
there was an election afterwards...first Giwa won but FIFA faulted it and there was another which he won...
keshi was the coach during that qualifier series oga

you said you have issues with my 3rd and 4th question nah

do4luv14:
chaiii
you are the one kidding yourself, go and read my first paragraph again, but this time slowly

as for pinnick Nff its not even clear to me yet,
cos as at 2015 pinnick was a commisioner in Delta state(correct me if am wrong)

let me tell you...
pinnick became the nff boss after the 2014 world cup...
there was an election afterwards...first Giwa won but FIFA faulted it and there was another which he won...

you said you have issues with my 3rd and 4th question nah

xwolverine:
The fact that guy adopted his mum’s name might be a sign that he wants to play for the Dutch team. Just like Tammy shortened his name to sound more British.

Honestly, forget some of these guys, they are using the Nigerian interest as leverage to get called up to their oyinbo master’s teams.

abeggi...
even as big as the USA
they still fight and invite players of dual nationalities...some grew and developed in the European academics.

the US still fight to have this players even when they seems not to be too interested...

PLAYERS have snubbed the US severally but still you'll see them still going for this set of foreign groomed players....

ChrisKels:
Lol this guy, easy oo, that ur first line no be here oo.

BTW, Who told u Tomori wasn't approached when he was at Derby County?

the dude said so....
I don't think Nigeria is serious as regard getting this player's not until they start playing in EPL.


Eze's case now is a blant example....

tbaba1234:
Who are you to decide, who is a Nigerian?

please don't make me to laugh....

don't mind him...I have said it severally our problem is just pride and prejudice...etal

do4luv14:
one at a time then

firstly to the best of my knowledge ( i stand to be corrected tho)
its only Rohr and Thomas thats being paid salaries

while the rest are on bonues( Imama, pual salisu etc)

secondly they might no offer anything now, but its a learning process i believe

while that of the super falcon is quite unforunate, i blame it on the players
particularly Asisat


and finally where or who told you about or what informed your third and last paragraph

you must be kidding me...

so you don't know that rohr has directed his lawyer to relate with the nff as regard his salary and he is being owned

how about we missing out on 2015, 2017 afcon....who was the NFF boss?

Earthquake1:
Hmm Ifunanya Chukwu wanted to be a Dillon Hoogewerf

the guy is just 16....
it won't be bad...if we can get like 60-70% of the best form that list to play for us...

hopefully manu garba does magic with the under 17...we will get some good home groomed players to add to it....

that way we are good to go...

do4luv14:
firstly you were on track with your first two points, onlly to kill it with your third and last paragrahp

pinnick Nff the worst?
It is well ooooo

why does he keep hiring coaches he can't fire...?
why Is Aigbogun and Imama still keeping their jobs?

what does they have to offer ?
how about the fate the super falcons suffered recently?
do you know how much Rohr is being owned?

under his watch we missed out on afcon twice you remember....?

Earthquake1:
Why didn't Abraham and Tomori honor our call up?

Nonsense, Ebere Eze knows which country he wants to play for, he's not a robot or a kid

in all fairness if you are in Eze shoes. ...at this point should the English FA give you a call up will you refuse?

considering you've lived in England all your life, you even play there....and Nigeria have refused to call you up.

Danielnino00:
The government might have failed in the area of fixing our league, but the football administrator/stakeholders haven't. There are football academies scattered across the country in case u didn't notice...and we have been reaping from these academies...

Try and look at the positive side...

the problem with this academics is that the money made from this player's sales many a time often end up in the management pocket...

they barely invest it back into this academics....same thing is happening to Nigerians owned companies.... the Nigeria man or woman barely invest in their companies even after making or getting multi million contracts..... they travel for vacations, buy fleet of cars but barely put the large sum back into their companies unlike the Chinese and others.....

I remember BJ Foundation going broke 2 years after the sale of Isaac success.... a player reportedly to have been sold for 1m euro.... so tell me we will barely make significant progress with this attitude

chucs:
I think I agree with you on that. Lampard being an English man has been partial in his selections sometimes. I mean why the heck would someone like Barkley get a playing time in the team? I really pity Pulisic sometimes.

do you know that even Americans, other nationals are gradually start to voice out that there is now sentiments towards British players....

one even said the reason why Berkeley had to fight over the spot kick and lampard consent to it the other time with Willian was because he was British....

the non British players @ Chelsea are not finding it easy and it will gradually roll to Liverpool should Gerrard becomes coach....

initially the FA tired to infuse some ex internationals into the coaching business but mostly the ex man united players and Alan shearer disappointed them but thanks to lampard and Gerrard..... and now they're on to the players @ the academics....

there was a time @ man city there was no English player save for Richard the FA expressed their displeasure

it will be saddening if they allow this sentiments to go through

tbaba1234:
No, Otabor has not been showing any promise for some years now.

what will a promising young player be doing in Bulgaria ?

jubilantagida:
Reason why Tomori and Tammy were given chance is simply because of the transfer ban and nothing else.

You are good, you're good, African player or not. How many Under-par English players are featuring for the merseyside teams today?? This your theory no enter.

bro...same reason why pulisic is in the bench...right?
same reason why Hudson odio came back from injury immediately started starting matches...?

bro... there is strict sentiment presently towards English players....

Eleniyan15:
Who will place a bet with me, only Tammy will be capped but fikayo go still wait endlessly in other-words fikayo will end up playing for Nigeria

he should go play for canada

Earthquake1:
That one no dey use eye see foreign born

If foreign born dey play for Enyimba he go say make we invite am

keep quiet....
since the government and the football administrators refuse to do the right thing
we should keep going backward....

TheSuperNerd:
But when we called up Kelechi Nwakali and Victor Osimhen after their U-17 exploits just as a way of fast-tracking them, you heard the nonsense cries didn't you? Why must the foreign borns be given this special treatment you suggest without anyone willing to cry out while we cry out when trying to encourage our special underage talents who shone at the age grades? Osimhen's call was bashed and condemned left, right and center when Rohr called him up just to begin integration of the lad because he saw he was special. Now we are reaping the benefits.

If Osimhen was foreign born, would his call have been bashed? And if as a foreign born, playing so well for Lille now, what would be the story today? That we should have capped him then, but now we have to contend with England or France for his allegiance. Thanks goodness that is not the case.




Look Sir Royalty. Nigeria have been approaching some of these lads and many of them are non-committal.
These lads should stop making it seem like it is the countries making the decisions for them. It is also their decisions and their lives. Let those that want to play for England or Nigeria or whatever country declare it from the onset and stick to it and not wait till their careers probably hit the heights of Pele where they now start singing the tune of England calling them up first.


Are you saying that Nigeria is not deserving of a player doing well in Manchester Utd or Manchester City or Arsenal or Chelsea? So na only QPR players we want abi? Only West Brom or Rotherham players are good enough for the Super Eagles and would choose the Super Eagles.

If that is the case, then we don't want such snake-like personalities near our GWG. Players who would only choose Nigeria if they are only at a not-so-high level career wise.
My question to them is this... Would they maintain same choice if they are getting the business done at a high level and making the headlines?


I think we should sort out where their allegiance lie from the onset first of all and stop giving ourselves more opportunities to get slapped in the face as seen in the case of Tomori and Abraham.
See Tosin Adarabioyo now... Famzing the GWG jersey and trying to get Nigeria's attention with his funny antics. Would he be doing so if he was still balling at Man City??

We need the really committed ones. Most of them are just considering us only because their careers aren't so great and they feel the Super Eagles is the place to be when you are at Ipswich town while England is the place to be when at Chelsea.

Is Nigeria not worthy of a Chelsea player? That is what we should address abeg and not inviting every dick and harry.

bro...I will be a big liar if I disagree with all you put up there....

TBH...it is beyond this lads, should they declare for Nigeria...or start to play for the super eagles...their ratings drop....
the primary reason why lampard choose to play Tomori and Tammy over other established players is because they're English, had it been they already featured for the super eagles...they would have been dropped...

be ready to watch more of this by the time Gerrard gets to be Liverpool manager...he has been pencilled down to take over from Klopp....


Supernerd let me reveal something to you...
the English FA is in a secret plan to win the euro and world cup...a directive have been issued to the top coaches to help develop home groomed talents....


primary reason you see some of this manager's signing up English players at exorbitant fees.... some like umery even have to play young English players since he has no money to sign the established ones.

saka and co because they're English...should saka play for nigeria now...he starts to warm the bench wella.

the coaches are under pressure.....to please the English FA... you know the FA help you win matches too...

so it's gonna be stiff England as we progress.... they wanna win the EURO and WORLD CUP.... so they're doing everything to make this possible.....

so those lads might have opt for England just to save their career..... and moreover they have never been to Nigeria all their lives and the connection may not be there...

until we choose to develop our home groomed talents... let's keep scouting for the foreign born players we should be fast with this pending when we develop our home groomed and as such we can maximize both

andrew444:
lol

it is sickening by the time we come to realize Imama and aigbogun must have done so much damage to our football...

I was so shocked the day I read pinnick boasting to be a free mason that day I shock my head meaning coaches in same group with him may always have their way

andrew444:
I like that u23 wey you talk

and who is managing the under 23 team...
pinnick administration is hiring coaches they can fire...

Earthquake1:
And Otabor is not a promising young winger?

the only thing I see good about that guy is his age.... he is truly an under 23 besides that... Ejike would have done better....

just the precedents Rohr is putting in place does not measure up with fairness... soon players from Latvia will fetch super eagles call ups

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... This is funny. So he expected a call-up from Nigeria when the issue of allegiance switch was in the picture. He was approached to begin a switch and he didn't wanna commit because he clunged to hopes of England. This kid is just talking and evading the truth. He knows what he's always wanted. He should just face his England career. Wished him the best already. Trying to sound like England were his first contact is only making him sound like an ass.

I think our approach to this will always make us loose out on the best talents....

approach and call them up even if it will require a FIFA switch to play competitively for us....

I will even appreciate it we always play one fifa recognized friendly and another unofficial friendly at least with a division 1 club sides in the country we are playing the friendlies...like Ukraine and Singapore..

he can get to play against the non official club side....

we are just too slow in harvesting this lads....probably because of the corruption and maladministration in the NFF

ChrisKels:
We should captie him before the bolded happens, to leave him no choice

I will soon give up on this country....

we don't wanna groom talents and at the same time we make yanga for those groomed by foreign academics... waiting for them to reach stardom.

Nigeria is the most proud nation on earth....

we can't groom and we don't wanna call up those that have been groomed.

do you know that...had it been we called up Tomori when he was still in Derby or even prior the match against Ukraine...he would have likely honour it up....

even if he won't get to play competitively.... just make him get to know the players and I promise the friendly and calm atmosphere in the team will make him fasten up with the switch....

somehow:
Almighty Rohr invited the best winger in the world from the Bulgarian league.


Don't worry guys, Otabor has soaked in enough drillings and Will unless come October 13.

Like Chris Danjuma, Imamma like Rohr.

If Okoye can become the third choice GK, why not Otabor? After all both are YOUNGIES

you'll agree with me had it been Rohr was an indigenous coach it would have been worse....

though I am not exonerating him because the man just showed that he has similar problem we accuse the indigenous coaches of though he is quite better

do4luv14:
we are here,
this our silly approach of waiting for other country to develop them through their youth system is whats costing us some quality players

and the painful thing is that we are not even fast enough...
many a time we wait for them to reach stardom prior we approach them...
I am sure if Algeria has adopt same approach they would have loose out on Mahrez and co


you see how clueless pinnick has become...his time is going down as one of the worst administration ever.....

nelszx:
Seems the trend now is these English foreign born are now trying to use Nigeria to gain call up. Tammy did twice and twice he was called up for fear of the English losing to Nigeria. Same with Tomori; now Ike Ugbo has said Nigerian officials are trying to make him switch international allegiance.

Well here's the full story from daily mail:
Nigeria go all in for Chelsea youngster Ike Ugbo after failing to convince Tammy Abraham to switch international allegiance from England.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-7546033/Nigeria-target-Chelseas-Ike-Ugbo-failing-convince-Tammy-Abraham-switch-allegiance.html

I pity him...
save for Tammy and Tomori may play or get call ups for long...provided Lampard remain with Chelsea...many may be side lined as times rolls by....

I just pity them... how many can the English FA adopt? and more over there are not pure British