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scoundrel:
This is not frequent. Most times they delete fake threads after a lot of people complain. If no one raises an issue they let the thread exist till further notice. Many times, even with complaints, they let the thread ride till almost a week before someone grudgingly deletes it. My original opinion still stands: this place can’t control the influx of fake news which will consume the subsection.

Till today there are some comments I’ve seen friends report for over two years and counting still being invisible to only the accounts but are viewable to everybody else. This forum is a shithole just like Nigeria. The only reports they take seriously are those which can demonetize the site like BetNaija adverts, pornography posts and reports of successful scams against forum members. Anything else is fair game.

babyfaceafrica:
Moderators delete fake thread's on the platform all the time.



If I hear

kingxsamz:
It's the same way Christians would tell you that this universe didn't come out of nowhere, that there has to be a being behind its creation, and that being is God.
Now, when you ask them who/what created God, (since nothing can exist without something prompting its existence), they'll tell you that God has always existed and was never created.
I'm like, "doesn't this contradict your point about creation in the first place" ?

Religious people always like to shift, twist or change facts in a way that it suits their ego, because they always want to feel right.
Smh.

edoairways:
What happened to your moniker?

peggywebbs:
@IamMichael... There is no point trying to disprove the origin of creation. Yes it is God that made each and everyone of us.


The only way you can prove otherwise is if you can show me

Any evidence of a human made womb, human made lungs, heart, kidney, eyes, tongue, breasts, skin with hair pores and follicles, ear drum, blood,etc.


If you can't show all these..then you will agree that everything we make is made of charger, battery, panels, screws and bolts.

I'm yet to find where my electricity cord is. I'm yet to see a robot with taste buds that can eat vegetables and meat. I'm wondering when scientists will be able to make a tissue brain that works. I'm waiting for the first scientist creation that uses oxygen.


If you have no other proof other than a big bang theory, then I'll ask you to reconsider your opinion on creation.

Please don't even go to the issue of aliens because as far as I'm concerned, they haven't been seen either. And if you tell me those weird creatures with big eyes and antenna ears created beautiful men and women, then I pray for you. Seriously.

xamuell:
No man no. God exist s in a realm that is not bound by physical laws. Take it that God created the universe and everything within it, it only means that our thought patterns would never be able to comprehend anything outside our reality. That's why you always use the law you just stated to define a Creator. Anything that is neither space, matter, time, makes no sense to us. Because of the limits caused by our reality.

NuclearReactor:
Lol, I looked at the meaning of create...
No, every ms doc isn't owned by bill gates but he is credited as the creator of such software.

cruxgemmata:


Dark spots on forehead wey be say na friction cause am, repeated contact of the forehead and the mat.

Come see plenty rich dudes wey no get am, why - because na padded rugs dem dey use pray, chop better food.

Unlike the less privilege ones wey dey slam forehead against mat or the ground directly. Na friction dey cause that one. No let anybody jonz u say na God dey put am there.

Op u funny sef with this ur create and produce theory

NuclearReactor:
Its a simple something(from a Christian perspective)
God Created the first humans... He would have decided to continue creating every other person just like the first humans, but he didn't...
Instead he enacted a process/system from which other humans would come into the world...
By sexual union of people of opposite sexes...
Anytime 2 people of opposite sexes engage the laws of that process, they are bound to get the results(children)...
So your parents didn't create you... No, they only engaged the natural laws of creation(instituted by God)
If they created you then they would have been the one to soverignly determine your physical appearance, physique, etc...
God is the Creator, your parents is the vehicle through which you are created!!!
Its that Simple!!

scoundrel:
I honestly believe the idea is more trouble than it’s worth.

scoundrel:
Trolls will bastardize the section. It will need at least five moderators to ensure misinformation is not the order of the day. Nobody is ready for such a task.

To attain knowledge, add things everyday. To attain wisdom, remove things every day. The balance you achieve with this prioritizing is what determines the level of wisdom you have attained.

#success #learning

Learning is not about accumulation of knowledge, but the capacity to think clearly and sanely without illusion and to start from facts and not from beliefs and ideals.

odinson1:
i stole it from a fellow and athiest here in Nairaland

i stole it from a fellow and athiest here in Nairaland

odinson1:
BLASPHEMY AND THE CREATURE IN YOUR ATTIC
Imagine you meet someone who strongly believed there was a creature living in his attic. A creature who watched his every move and could affect his life for better or worse. And he believed this creature needed to be appeased by performing regular rituals of chanting and singing.
Naturally, you would be sceptical. You would want to find out if there was any truth to his beliefs. Your conversation might go something like this:
You: Can you show me the creature?
Him: No. I can't do that. It can't be seen.
You: How do you know it's there then?
Him: I hear it. It talks to me and I talk back.
You: OK, can I listen to your conversation?
Him (shaking head): No. It doesn't work like that. You have to believe it is real before you can talk to it.
You: But how can I believe it's real if I can't see it or talk to it and only have your word that it's there?
Him: Oh it's definitely real. It's as real to me as you are right now.
You: I understand you believe that but how can I believe it with only your word to go on?
Him: You can doubt me but you can't prove it's not up there can you?
You: I don't suppose I can...
Him: You have to have faith. Join me in my daily chanting and soon you'll believe it too. You'll see the light and your life will be transformed. That's the only way.
...
If that story seems both crazy and familiar, it is. There is only one difference between the character in this story and the billions who believe in invisible gods. That difference is that your interlocutor is the ONLY person who believes in the invisible creature in his attic.
Because of this, not only would you not believe his story, but you would conclude he needed professional help for delusional disorder. And you would be right.
This story illustrates the true nature of religions. Religions are institutionalised delusional disorder. That is why they try so hard to make sure everyone is a believer--every disbeliever is a threat. The more disbelievers there are the closer believers are to becoming like the man in this story--isolated individuals believing highly improbable things that cannot be shown to be true.
Real religions employ techniques to divert us from this obvious conclusion. Most importantly, they teach children to believe at an age when they are impressionable and uncritical; religious leaders often wear impressive clothes and claim they have a privileged relationship with their invisible creature.
Then they seek to insulate their improbable and unsubstantiated beliefs from criticism. They promulgate respect for religious beliefs as a cultural norm. Sometimes, they even seek to make it a legally punishable offence to criticise religious beliefs.
I can think of nothing more damning of religious belief than the existence of blasphemy laws. It is an admission that these beliefs are so frail and indefensible that it should be a crime to challenge their truth or reality.
Truth and reality do not need to be defended by law. They can look after themselves

aadoiza:
You sha wan drag me here.
Lemme go through the thread and see if it has taken a creative turn.

aadoiza:
They will not look for it, but rather wasting away their lifes on a faceless forum demanding for the coordinates of God's location, or even more foolishly for a visit from him in their homes.
I don't think I can ever have enough of atheists' foolishness on this forum. Their foolishness sometimes fills my day with laughter. May God forgive me.

1) - Have you found God?
- Have you seen God?
- Have you heard from God before in your
entire life?
- Have you felt God before in your entire life?
- If you have felt God, what exactly did you feel?

2) - How did you find God?
- What did he look like when you saw him?
- What did he sound like when you heard him?
- How did you realise what you are feeling was
God?

3) - In what ways does God manifest himself in
your life?
- What is the most visible thing that is a direct
resultant of your meeting with God?

I'm sure as a wise man, you don't need the bible to answer the above questions sincerely as someone who has found God.

Honestly Mike, I couldn't answer these questions to your satisfaction, as you're a materialist. This will only descend into the usual back-and-forth between God and no-god believers.


However, I can tell you this: you're never gonna find God on the Internet. You will have to dedicate most of your life to His course to find Him, and when you do, You will never see Him in the flesh.


Furthermore, God will never come to you to make a material impact. He will do so only through agency.

I would have shared some stories but since God was not physically present in any of them grin grin, atheists would always find silly excuses to dismiss them. So what's the point?

shadeyinka:
Only an ignorant person use "God of the gaps" as an excuse for what science doesn't have answers to.


Filling of gaps with God/gods can only be said to be true if there is no basis (subjective or objective experience of God) to come to such a conclusion.


If a person doesn't have such an experience, he should look for it rather than concluding that NO-ONE has an experience as to justify his position.

MacCantStopMe:
Great thread

odinson1:
Sometimes god-believers tell me they don't just BELIEVE God exists--they KNOW it. They know it because they have a personal relationship with him. They ask questions and receive answers.
If this is true, it would give us a good way to demonstrate that God exists. All we have to do is arrange for 100 to 200 people who claim they have a similar relationship, to ask God a question. We would devise 5 or 6 questions and randomly assign one question to each person in the study.
We would need questions to which we currently have no answer, such as; is there life elsewhere in the universe and where? What is dark matter? Is it possible to freeze humans for long periods and restore them? Why is sleep important? Is it possible to unify general relativity with quantum field theory? What important questions have humans never asked?
Each person would ask God their question and note his reply. We could then compare answers. If people really do talk to God, we should see the same answers more often than we would expect by chance. We might even be able to test the answers to see if they are correct.
Getting a positive result from a study like this would be good evidence that people really do talk to a highly knowledgeable being. Discovering that such a being actually exists, together with the answers he would provide could literally transform the world. And there would be no excuse for atheists or people who worship invented gods.
If the results are no better than chance, we will have learnt that God does not exist, or people are mistaken when they say they talk to him or God does not want to reveal himself to his creation and would rather see billions tortured in hell...
What do you think?

odinson1:
Let me add my own

All religions insist they have found the truth, despite the fact there are hundreds of religions and thousands of denominations preaching contradictory beliefs. This made me wonder, if religions were REALLY concerned about finding the truth, how would we expect them to behave?
I wouldn't expect to see religious or inter-denominational wars, such as we have seen between Shia and Sunni Muslims, Catholics and Protestants and between Muslims and Hindus. Obviously, you don't find who has the truth by killing those who have different opinions.
Instead[b], I would expect to see multi-faith working groups in centres of higher learning all over the world, working round the clock, sifting evidence, setting up archaeological expeditions and carrying out research. I would expect these centers of excellence to have ruled out most religions and denominations by now and be working hard to pare down the remaining short-list of religions.
Finally, I would not expect religions to cling to dogma that cannot be changed; rather I would expect religions readily to change their beliefs as new evidence is uncovered.[/b]
But in the real world, we do see killing, we do see rigid dogma and we do not see serious attempts to rule out false religions by mutual consent. Why not?
Because, religions are NOT about truth. Truth is not in the least relevant to religions. That is why religions rely on faith and eschew evidence; that is why they rely on indoctrination of children and not on open-minded inquiry.
Religions are not about finding truth--they are about defending lies.

StrikeBack:
post the link of the thread

southniyikaye:
1) Now how do I corroborate what the Bible says?
At the mention of the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow, that name saved me on countless occasions, come face to face with death several times and that name saved me. Go through my thread there is a confirmation there about a snake that was suppose to kill me. It even made front page.
GOD, Jesus, those are names we need in time of trouble and those have never disappointed me for once.

southniyikaye:
just forget all these stupid brandishing of useless thoughts that is wasps up in your head.
I won't be answering you again.
Everyone is to believe what suits him or her.
For the fact that you've maybe read some books or some things are out there that you can't seem to understand doesn't mean others should follow suit in your stupidity.
I have given you reasons why I know there is God and why I believed in Jesus.
Whatever thing you wish to hear I don't know.
I referred you to my thread and that's one of the numerous signs of his existence.
Sincerely I won't dignify you with a mention again cos you are beginning to piss me off and I won't.
Continue wallowing in your delusion.

southniyikaye:
As much as I don't want this to have a spiritual undertone, God did save me this night reason is,
Am already set to eat this night, Infact I was seated already na so to shit come dey worry me, I was like, if I chop finish I go shit naw but the urge was so crazy I just have to go.

Getting to the toilet, saw this snake trapped in between the toilet's window frames. How it got there, I don't know, how he got trapped, I don't know but two things could have happened

1) I might have sat down to do my thing and this serpent bite me from the head or
2) it fit Don enter inside the closet and bite my blockos(scrotum)

BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THIS IS GOD

shadeyinka:
Everything you have said here is deflated by one phrase "RELATIONSHIP and EXPERIENCE"!

Without experience, the God of gap is a good argument. Can you convince me that I have no experience (subjective or objective) of God? Too bad if you don't have your own experience: open your eyes!

This had been answered before: I wonder if this is just to keep your thread alive. I shouldn't even have responded if not for @shadeyinka that keeps resonating everywhere.

God of the Gap's operate on area's of our life/universe where science has not yet debunked/understand.
In other words, religion leans heavily on area's we do not yet understand. God is used to explain away things man do not yet understand.
However, with every new discovery, the religious god's are relegated further back to irrelevance. In other words, as the previously unexplained gaps in our knowledge of the universe is filled with proven facts, Gap's filled with religious superstitions and Goddidit are eradicated along the way, losing relevance.
Before the law of planetary motions, people believed angels moved the planets, alongside whatever superstitious belief's that pervaded then.

"God was invented to explain mystery. God is always invented to explain those things that you do not understand.
Now, when you finally discover how something works, you get some laws which you're taking away from God; you don't need him anymore. But you need him for the other mysteries. So therefore you leave him to create the universe because we haven't figured that out yet; you need him for understanding those things which you don't believe the laws will explain, such as consciousness, or why you only live to a certain length of time — life and death — stuff like that. God is always associated with those things that you do not understand. Therefore I don't think that the laws can be considered to be like God because they have been figured out."
—Richard Feynman

Your theory!
You're free to believe whatever you like: BUT is that the truth?

shadeyinka:
Learning Sense from someone is now a miracle!?
Context of speeches aren't important in languages!?

shadeyinka:
They say lawyers like to argue even when the truth stares them in the face. What was the miracle of Jesus here o: miracle of not saying yes or no!? I don't understand [/b]how you assumed I have stated another miracle of Christ?

I quoted the scriptures because Micheal, your name, is a name that originate from the Bible: you should know that. But your response show that you have not the tiniest compression of the scriptures, hence I gave you a brief historical background. Where is that an offence? You should have read up to confirm the history from other sources than the bible. SMH!

Your Summary:
All questions that wish for affirmative answers directed at you must be answered with a YES or NO response without the use of one's common sense!

My Summary:
All questions that wish for affirmative answers directed at you must NOT be answered with a YES or NO response without the use of one's common sense!

QED!

Take yours and move on!

shadeyinka:
Ok, I understand why you don't understand the storyline. Borrow a little sense from Jesus.

If Jesus had answered YES: pay tax to Ceaser, he would have been the most hated man in the whole of Israel for Israel had to pay heavy taxes to Rome.

If Jesus had answered NO: don't pay taxes to Ceaser. The Jews who sought his arrest would have got a good excuse to report him as enemy of the Roman Republic. This was an offence that warrantied a capital punishment.

So, what did Jesus do to the question? He said, GIVE UNTO CEASER WHAT BELONGS TO CEACER! With his answer, he killed two birds with one stone.

Sorry Bro!