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I couldn't reply yesterday cuz I was banned while trying to quote this post. All efforts to get the mods to unban me proved abortive apparently.

shadeyinka:
The Universe has been scientifically shown to have a beginning just as every religious teaching that speaks of the origin of the universe.

The fundermental question then is HOW did the material universe come into existence.
The religious people say the Universe was created BY non material beings
The scientific atheists say the Universe came out of nothing.
The non scientific atheist either blindly support the scientific atheists or pretend not to care.

Now you say:
However, as with any opinion/theory, the holder must also be ready to logically defend it, as well as for such opinion/theory to face thorough scrutiny for verification of facts using existing evidence.

1. Is there a logical or scientific defence for the universe coming out of existence from nothing?
2. Do you expect a physical evidence from non-physical Extraterrestrial beings who theists say created the universe?
3. If your instrument cannot detect a signal, it that a positive and conclusive indication that the subject of measurement doesn't exist?

I have always known where you are going... But, i will still sincerely indulge in the discuss.
As to your questions, see the below:

"It is the job of science to provide plausible natural explanations for natural phenomena. The study of the origin of life is a very active research area in which important progress is being made, although the consensus among scientists is that none of the current hypotheses has thus far been confirmed. The history of science shows that seemingly intractable problems like this one may become amenable to solution later, as a result of advances in theory, instrumentation, or the discovery of new facts..."

Oga show us your Data Usage...
I even wanted to open a thread to comment on how my data now lasts longer since I started using Redmi 8A...Was previously using Porviour 2 Pro.

shadeyinka:
Good that you aren't one.

I know how atheists will like to define atheism. Purely as a DISBELIEF in the existence of any God/God/Spirits.

Alright.

The implication is what I am talking about: NOTHING CREATED EVERYTHING!

Or how do you answer the question of the origin of the Universe without involving extraterrestrial beings?

Everyone is free to form their own opinion/theory of how they think/believe the universe came to be.
However, as with any opinion/theory, the holder must also be ready to logically defend it, as well as for such opinion/theory to face thorough scrutiny for verification of facts using existing evidence.
In otherwords, if you are saying your village Iroko tree created the whole world, you must be able to answer questions relating to how, when, where, etc of the said creation assertion of your village Iroko tree.

And by the way, the teachings of every form of organized knowledge is INDOCTRINATION

Not every organized knowledge is indoctrination. Some organized knowledge is meant to give you basic understanding of things as well as help make things easier to understand.
E.g Maps, Technical Education, University Education, Physics, Chemistry, Laws, Biology, etc.
In this sense, you cannot say it is indoctrination.



Experience is relative.

shadeyinka:
Isn't your atheism a form of indoctrination:

I'm not an atheist.

to believe that nothing created everything?

Atheism doesn't mean belief that nothing created everything.
Atheism simply means non-belief that religious god's exist!!!
To an atheist, believing that Yahweh or Allah or Jesus exists is equivalent to believing that Santa Claus and Superman are real.

budaatum:
About 300 to 500 years behind, actually, the Christian part anyway.

We are only just reading the book and believing it. In another 100 or so years, we might begin to understand that Jesus was a freethinker too who was crucified for being an atheist and use your senses scientist, and in another 100 we might start to do greater things than he is written to have done.

I don't think it will take that long, but you are definitely not far from the truth.
We are so far behind,we don't even recognize it.

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southniyikaye:
you go quote me u go tire but whatever you do, leave my moniker and my mention out of your study
PEACE.
I pray you find your way soon cos you are lost.

Even whatever you aim to achieve here is indoctrination and I believed any wise person will leave you to your imagination
Be safe bro and remember, keep my mention and my moniker outta your studying, it is a plea for now.
Let's respect ourself.

Too late bro.
You are already central to the discussion, and a case study.
A free mind fears no new knowledge, only weak minds do!
If you read history, you will know that at every point in time, Religion has tried to suppress knowledge because it is a threat to them. Many great minds have been killed by Religious adherents all because they don't believe the deception.
The Religion you practice today has killed millions of people because this people said they won't join in the delusion. That's their only crime.
It's like iPhone Users killing other phone brand users simply because they refused to use iPhone.
To them, iPhone is the best and they don't understand why other people should be using android smartphones.

Take your time and research about your religion. I am hundred percent sure that you don't know the history of your religion. I am 100% sure you don't know how the book (bible) you so love to quote came about.
I am 100% sure you don't know where, who and why the bible came to be.
I am 100% sure that you don't even know the different alterations the bible has gone through and why it continues to be revised.

Take your time and learn... Knowledge they say, is power.

SKhanmi:
Great thread, but Op is yet to learn, once they start quoting Bible verses ignore them, that's their last line of defense & it would end up in a muddle of illogical discussions at the end, a total waste of time & space on this thread. Try and answer only the genuine ones, you'll know by their line of reasoning whether they came to really learn or argue.

Thanks bro. I will do just that!

southniyikaye:
just forget all these stupid brandishing of useless thoughts that is wasps up in your head.
I won't be answering you again.
Everyone is to believe what suits him or her.
For the fact that you've maybe read some books or some things are out there that you can't seem to understand doesn't mean others should follow suit in your stupidity.
I have given you reasons why I know there is God and why I believed in Jesus.
Whatever thing you wish to hear I don't know.
I referred you to my thread and that's one of the numerous signs of his existence.
Sincerely I won't dignify you with a mention again cos you are beginning to piss me off and I won't.
Continue wallowing in your delusion.
I take my leave bro.

NO PUN INTENDED
NO INSULT MEANT.

continue with your topic or face others.

You know, 1 + 1 is still equals to 2...

Beating about the bush, insulting when it isnt called for, avoiding the question and forming audio anger are all well known deflection tactics of religious indoctrinated persons.

You are a case study now bro, as I'm going to be using you as an example in the next post's i will be making on this thread.

southniyikaye:
Corithians 1:18-25
18 The message of the cross is foolish to those who are headed for destruction! But we who are being saved know it is the very power of God. 19 As the Scriptures say,

“I will destroy the wisdom of the wise
and discard the intelligence of the intelligent.”[e]

20 So where does this leave the philosophers, the scholars, and the world’s brilliant debaters? God has made the wisdom of this world look foolish. 21 Since God in his wisdom saw to it that the world would never know him through human wisdom, he has used our foolish preaching to save those who believe. 22 It is foolish to the Jews, who ask for signs from heaven. And it is foolish to the Greeks, who seek human wisdom. 23 So when we preach that Christ was crucified, the Jews are offended and the Gentiles say it’s all nonsense.

24 But to those called by God to salvation, both Jews and Gentiles,[f] Christ is the power of God and the wisdom of God. 25 This foolish plan of God is wiser than the wisest of human plans, and God’s weakness is stronger than the greatest of human strength

Now how do I corroborate what the Bible says?
At the mention of the name of Jesus, every knee shall bow, that name saved me on countless occasions, come face to face with death several times and that name saved me. Go through my thread there is a confirmation there about a snake that was suppose to kill me. It even made front page.
GOD, Jesus, those are names we need in time of trouble and those have never disappointed me for once.
The fact that God gave you grace and privilege not to encounter any danger doesn't mean you should not acknowledge him.
Indoctrination is a thing we can confirm when we come of age. A Muslim will convert to Christianity when he sees the light and realize the truth so also an herbalist.
I pray one day the lord gives you a personal encounter or he visits you so you can preach his goodness to the world the same way you Re antagonizing right now.

I asked you simple and easy questions bro. I don't understand why you are quoting a post that replied a different handle.
Please reply the questions i asked you.

I do understand though if you cannot answer since every indoctrinated individual is made to be afraid of answering questions that challenge them to use their sense of reasoning. After all, that's the first step to loosing the indoctrination.

PoliteActivist:
So what is your solution? My hunch is we won't see any spike. Coro finds it hard to kill Nigerians who never left Nigeria. We'd also have stringent conditions in place like: social distancing, masks, no hand shaking or hugs, sanitizer dispensary everywhere, only very small crowds except outdoors, all foreigners quarantined, anybody outside with any symptoms immediately "arrested" and isolated, etc

China, Vietnam, South Korea, New Zealand, Israel all used three things to break the chain, and be zero free of the virus:
1) Proper Information disposal about the situation and how the government is taking care of it. In other words, proper orientation of the situation and making sure that everyone is aware of what is happening... This is the first step to stop spread of false information.
2) Total lockdown
3) Massive Testing along affected areas
4) Massive Disinfection...
The total lockdown enabled the massive testing which helped to quickly identify infected persons and isolate them.
In fact, browse about how Vietnam fought the Corona virus, you will be amazed.

Sadteen:
What ever confirmation you made except you did your own research without letting sentiment get in the way was simply confirmation bias. Even Muslims grow up to confirm their religion to be true. No matter what religion you were born in, most people grow up to confirm their religion to be true

I asked him questions, he is yet to answer...
I'm still waiting!!!

PoliteActivist:
Let's ask ourselves a question. If it were, say, USA, that had 305 cases total while 799 people died in Lagos in a single day, will they shut down their economy? The answer of course is NO! Why? Because they have the health facility to face a spike in cases. THEREFORE, Nigeria should direct almost ALL our resources towards upgrading our healthcare facility. We have now all seen what having inadequate health facility is costing us - penny wise , pound foolish.
We should partially open up the country under stringent requirements, direct all our resources towards upgrading healthcare, treat those who succumb, bury those who die, monitor things closely and if we see a spike, go back to lockdown.

If this is your solution, then truly whoever you are leading is doomed.
It's like you are living in Pluto!!!

reigncalif1:
WOW I DON'T GET IT . WHO IS A FREETHINKER?
AND U DON'T BELIEVING IN GOD DOESN'T THAT MAKES U AN ATHEIST.

A Freethinker is a person who rejects accepted opinions, especially those concerning religious belief which do not conform to reason.

Feel free to read more here:
https://ffrf.org/component/k2/item/18391-what-is-a-freethinker

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freethought

Blackking98:
hmm then it seems China is at advantage at this point o.

Yeah...

reigncalif1:
OK JUST WANTED TO KNOW,THAT MEANS U ARE AN ATHEIST RIGHT?
BOTH EVOLUTION AND CREATION HAVE THE SAME LOGICAL PROBLEM BUT I PRFER CREATION BECAUSE OF ITS PURPOSE

I'm just a freethinker bro.

reigncalif1:
I MEAN IN TOTALITY ,DO U BELIEVE WE WERE CREATED INSTEAD OF EVOLUTED .
DO U BELIEVE THERE IS GOD AT ALL . THEN IF YES THEN U CAN TELL ME THE GOD U BELIEVE IN

We evolved.
No, i don't believe in any God!

My own question:
Why do you ask?

reigncalif1:
IS NOT EASY IN JUNGLE I DO BELIEVE THAT,ITS SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST, BUT U DARE NOT COMPARE THE INTELLIGENCE OF HUMAN TO ANY POSSIBLE THING ON EARTH OR ITS ADAPTATION, THERE ARE OTHER INTELLIGENT ANIMAL LIKE DOG ,ITS AMAZING WHEN DOG DISPLAY ITS INTELLIGENT BUT THERE IS DOUBT HUMAN ARE THE MOST INTELLIGENT LIVING THING ON EARTH AND APART FROM INTELLIGENT I ALSO BELIEVE HUMAN BEING POSSES SPIRIT THAT ALSO MAKE THEM DIFFER FROM OTHER POSSIBLE LIVING THING AND WITH THIS IT BRING THE FACT THAT IN A WAY HUMAN ARE MADE TO RULES OVER OTHER LIVING THING .HUMAN BEING ARE AMAZING AND EXCEPTIONAL,THE WAY THEY CHANGE AND MOBILIZE THE ENVIRONMENT SHOWS THAT THEY ARE MORE THAN A MERE ANIMAL,ITS SEEM THEY WERE MADE ON PURPOSE INSTEAD OF CHANCE

FOR EVOLUTION I DON'T BELIEVE IN ITS I PREFER CREATION TO EVOLUTION

WHAT'S UR VIEW ON GOD AND RELIGION
DO U PREFER OUR ANCESTORS RELIGIONS COMPARE TO CHRISTIANITY

Which of the Gods?

reigncalif1:
IN A LOGICAL SENSE ,NO DOUBT LIFE SEEMS TO BE ENTIRELY MEANINGLESS BUT ON MY OWN VIEW I THINK LIFE IS TOO GOOD TO BE MADE OR EXIST MEANINGLESS ,

I understand where you're coming from, i really do. It's the most probable conclusion to think that there must be meaning to life. But, you are considering it based on the human angle alone. Remember, trees, other animals are also alive and have life.
Is there any meaning to their lives? I watch NatGeo Wild a lot, and trust me, it's not funny in the jungle.

In our own daily parlance, we breed other animals just to kill them and satisfy our hunger. They have life too. Surely, there must be meaning to their lives too right?
Once a life is created, it just adapts to its environment, live and die. That's it.

HUMAN BEING ARE TOO INTELLIGENT
LIFE HAS NO CHANCE TO EXIST ON HIS OWN
HUMAN BEING I BELIEVE ARE MADE TO GIVE LIFE MEANING.

Remember that intelligence in humans is a trait that keeps evolving.
Remember that at conception/fertilization of the female ovary, just one sperm cell out of several others completed the journey. The rest, were not strong enough.
In otherwords, as time continues to pass, only the strongest traits get transferred to the next child. Intelligence is one of those traits.
Are humans the only intelligent living things? No.
Bees, Ants, Tigers, Lions, Wolves, dogs, etc are all intelligent animals. Every animal develop the intelligence they needed to survive over time in their respective habitat's.
The intelligence of man skyrocketed when man accidentally discovered fire.

SO THE VIEW OF GOD SEEMS IS THE ONLY THING THAT CAN GIVE THIS LIFE A MEANING ,THE VIEW OF ETERNITY ,THE VIEW OF DYING AND HAVING A SECOND CHANCE TO LIVE IN ETERNITY THAT'S THE ONLY THE CAN GIVE LIFE MEANING AND THAT IS Y PEOPLE ARE EMBRACING IT .

This is true.
Remember that religion was not brought to Africa. There were indigenous religious practices existing before the coming of Islam, Christianity and all the rest.
Every tribe in this world have their own version of creation story as well as afterlife.
We Igbo's believed in afterlife, and the Mmonwu festival is believed to be one of the meeting points between the living and their respective ancestors.
Igbo's had Okija, and the mighty Chukwu shrine in Arochukwu before the whites came.
So, religious practices wasn't a new thing. And all what you said is what led to and reinforced those beliefs.
The question is, why did they forsake their ancestral practice of many centuries for the new god's brought by the foreigners?
Remember that we were conquered, and the conquered don't tell/write their story; the conquerers do.

AND ABOUT THE LOGICAL SENSE
AND ALSO WHAT I MEAN IS THAT PEOPLE CAN ALSO IN A TIME START EMBRACING THE VIEW OF GOD WHETHER INDOCTRINATED OR NOT , WHETHER IS FEAR OR QUESTIONS THAT CAN'T BE ANSWERED LEAD THEM TO GOD NO ONE CAN ASCERTAIN BUT BELIEVE ME I HAVE SEEN THIS PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT INDOCTRINATED BUT ENDED UP BELIEVING IN GOD
BECAUSE WHEN NO ONE CAN ASCERTAIN HOW LIFE CAME INTO EXISTENCE IT CAN LOGICALLY BRING UP THE QUESTIONS OF HIGHER POWER CAUSE I BELIEVE FACTS AND PHYSICALITY CAN BE ASCERTAIN BUT SPIRITUALITY REMAIN THE THING OF MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT BUT THAT DOES NOT DISPROVE IT FROM BEEN LOGICAL

There is always an underlying happenstance. There is always an underlying reason why they did it. It's impossible to be a religious adherent unless you are lacking something which you feel that religion is providing for you.

ihimiray:
and America has up to a thousand war head abeg stop hype dis wicked chinese

Having a thousand nukes is meaningless when only one nuke is all that is needed to level the whole of USA don't you think? And China doesn't have one, they have more than 200 and have the capacity to deploy same when threatened/cornered...That's enough.
Nuclear weapons are costly to maintain by the way, not to talk of the potential health hazards(think Chernobyl).
In case you didn't know, the USA is a warring nation. USA is built on the ruins of other nations. All their government Sabotage, coup and toppling of democratically elected Governments all over the world are well documented.
USA fund terrorists, and they created Al Qaeda.
So, your assertion that China is wicked is totally baseless.
You don't know the history of China and all the humiliation they have suffered at the hands of the Western power's.
China is actually the only one helping Africa develop, unlike the Westerners who all they do is steal, create discordance, topple legitimate governments, loot and loot and loot without giving anything back.
Now, all they do is steal our best brains to help develop their nations better (by paying them better) while some people think they are getting free ticket to freedom from the usual African palaver of corruption and what have you.
Nigeria has everything it takes to be a Superpower. They know this, every reasonable person know this.
Africa is still sleeping, but surely it will rise. But, definitely not with mindsets like yours!

Blackking98:
the attack will most likely not be warfare, maybe economically or another way.

Well, as it stands now, the USA cannot attack China economically without national repercussions.
When Barrack Obama told Steve Jobs to bring back the production of Apple products to US from China, he replied:
"Those jobs are not coming back!"
The simple answer is because of economics. Everything is cheaper in China, and due to America being a capitalist economy, most business owners cannot afford to mass produce in US cuz of cost.

Any war between US, Russia, China, UK is the end of humanity cuz they'll nook everyone back to the pre historic times.

In this, you are very correct. This is the reason why it will not happen!

Dantedasz:
This simple,yet powerful cartoon explains how religious indoctrination takes place from birth until a man/woman dies,except you liberate yourself.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y201QzDdzbg

This video is really enlightening. Aligns perfectly with the thread.

SoNature:
You should have asked of the type of attack before showing the smarty-pants in you

I asked you why will the USA attack China.
Then I asked you if you think the USA will be fōolish enough to attack China.
Didn't you see that?

cybertron88:
Don't always be quick to respond. He doesn't mean military attack. Trade attack would hit China more than a nuclear warhead. The little arm twisting Trump gave them is a blue print on how to put China in it's place. If countries close thier industry they opened in China due to cheap labor China would be torn apart. They have a very large population and depend on other countries purchasing power to survive.

Seems you are probably not aware of recent world event's.
Let's begin with Huawei and 5G. What happened when USA threatened all their allies to not use the technology because Huawei didn't allow them a backdoor like other compliant US Lackey companies?
The whole of Europe, most Asian countries including Australia and African countries went ahead anyway to enter an agreement. Do you know why?
5G is the next leap and Huawei leads the way. USA is telling it's allies to not align with a product, but they are not providing alternative. All the smear campaign failed because you can't build something on nothing.
That is what China does. China provides what people need at affordable prices. Nothing beats that.

Secondly, let's look at the recent trade war between China and USA. Who lost?
When USA placed embargo on some Chinese products, the Chinese responded accordingly by boycotting most US products including soybean, one of their largest exports to China. China accounts for 60% of their exports... Guess who suffered more?
USA Population is roughly 326million according to stats and the world population is 7billion+... China doesn't need USA at all, but the USA needs them. China is USA's largest debt holder and could simply wreak US economy by calling in their debt, destroying the dollar in the process while taking a hit themselves. For China, it will be just one of those things, but for USA, well that will be a colossal damage.

As it stands, China is the real deal, and with the friendly support of Russia (their next door neighbor by the way), it's an open season.

Incase you don't know, US is just trying everything to smear China, and it has all failed at every point. Save for an all out war against China, there is nothing they can do to stop China at this point!

greenhulk:
U don't have to reply to some comments bro. Some people think China is Iran that can just be attacked. Some are saying China will suffer that nobody will do business with them anymore. Like wtf, China is the center of the world economy, that is where almost everything is mass produced. Unless countries like us, Germany, etc want to start doing mass productions in their countries, but then they don't have the cheap labor.

Exactly bro.
It's just that when you don't reply and call out those ignorant comments, they spread faster than bullet.
As it stands now, the world cannot do without China!!!

blowjohn:
Stay there.
U think its nuclear attack we r talking about?
When Japan was suspected to have hacked into top companies systems in the US during Obama's time, few days later there was total blackout in Japan and no one could point fingers at the US.

Even the UK government wants to sue china for the outbreak to the tune of trillions of dollars

You should read more bro, and do your best to enlighten yourself better with world politics instead.
There is nothing USA can do to China in any form or anyway that China cannot reciprocate back accordingly.
China of 20th Century is not China of 21st Century.

Powerintoxicate:
China should get ready to become to pariah nation of the World sooner than later. No COUNTRY will want to have anything to do with China after this. The US will attack China definitely

Why will the USA attack China?
Do you think USA will be fōolish enough to attack a country with more than 256 nuclear war heads?
Ever heard of the word "Mutually Assured Destruction?".
The ignorance in this part of the world is really overwhelming!!!

psalmistkakah:
Nigeria wey transparency no dey, those registry's workers go just put the names of their close once...na useless format be that.. share this money using BVN, period

You are correct.
I work in a Local Government Council in Imo State. I almost wept when one of the women responsible for going into the inner villages to collate figures as well as seek out the poorest told us what those handling thing's do.
She mentioned several families whose children are working overseas in lucrative jobs put their names as poor people just because they are incharge.
They put names of in-laws, cousins, nephews known and unknown so that at the end of the day, only very few slots remain for the actual people who are supposed to benefit from the funds.
Corruption in Nigeria is not a government thing, its an individual thing. Given the opportunity, most Nigerians only care about themselves and their families. That's the simple truth!

StrikeBack:
post the link of the thread

I cannot remember the exact thread bro. I have been on nairaland since 2009.
However, i will try and search for it and see if it is still here in the religious section or deleted.

reigncalif1:
YEAH THOSE QUESTIONS ON MY OWN DOE'S NEEDED TO BE ANSWERED, YES WE ARE HUMAN AND U CAN TELL ME TO FORGET ABOUT MY EXISTENCE.

I cannot tell you to forget your existence bro. However, when you think about it, you will realise that life itself is meaningless.
Life is like virus. A virus is not a living thing and doesn't seek to do anything. It's just there, existing meaninglessly until it comes in contact with a living thing. It still does nothing, whatever a living thing does after contact with a virus is entirely up to the living tissues of that living thing because a virus is not alive and cannot do anything. When the living thing does not know what else to do with the virus, the virus is said to have ran it's course...and that living thing continues with their living.
So is life. Whatever a human achieves while alive is definitely up to them. Whether you achieve anything or don't achieve anything, life doesn't care. At the end, after running it's course, it goes and what remains is a lifeless body.
This is scary to know, but it is the simple truth.
Religion only utilises the fear of the unknown to scare people into not having thought's like this, hence things like "heaven and hell" "spirit and soul".

SO HOW ABOUT THE QUESTION ,IS IT ABOUT GOD OR INDOCTRINATION BECAUSE SOME PEOPLE THAT WERE NOT INDOCTRINATED WITH LOGICAL SENSE CAN STILL END UP BELIEVING IN GOD

Someone cannot be indoctrinated with logical sense.
Logical reasoning or logical sense as you put it is the simple process of using a rational, systematic series of steps based on sound mathematical procedures/observations and given statements to arrive at a conclusion.
The other name is common sense!

If you have one loaf of bread, and i give you another loaf of bread, how many loaves of bread do you now own? The logical answer is two.
That's what logical reasoning is all about. It doesn't try to input what is none existent because it wants to arrive at a particular correct conclusion.
Check for instance:
Most Southerners are christians.
Emeka is a southerner,
Therefore, Emeka is a christian.
Does the first two lines support the final conclusion?

Check for instance:
Every Southerner is a christian.
Emeka is a southerner,
Therefore, Emeka is a christian.
Does the first two lines support the final conclusion?

southniyikaye:
Your main target was Christianity but you just have to beat around the bush to prove a point that doesn't exist.

I'm sure you saw the topic of this thread very clearly. Why did your mind tell you my target was Christians?
You just committed Fallacy of Hasty Conclusion.
As the thread rightly stated, it is for religious adherents, of which Christianity is just one just like I stated in the first post on this thread.

How do you come into existence?

People, mostly religious people always ask this question. But, isn't the answer obvious?
The only way to produce a foetus is by fertilizing the female eggs with sperm from their male counterparts.
I said this because in this day age, intercourse is no longer the only way way to directly fertilize the female eggs.
Please I will advise you to read up on Reproduction in humans; that is, if and when you decide.

You see, if I plant maize, and someone saw me when I cultivated, planted, watered, put fertilizer, prevent it from insects and then harvested and sell.
This person was of the opinion that I lied and might wanna manipulate when I told him I can harvest an acre of corn from just maybe two bulb or whatever it is called then he start documenting and taking pictures through those time and even called people to witness it so he can have witnesses, that was how Christianity was given birth to.

I honestly don't understand what you wrote above. Please do more to clarify your thoughts/edit your post if you wrote it in a hurry.

From onset, there were witnesses and documentations to corraborate the story.
I have never seen anyone who came out and plainly and convincingly say, Christianity was a lie, Jesus christ didn't come, miracles were never performed, there is no heaven.

Again, Fallacy of Hasty Conclusion summed up from from Ignoratio Elenchi. The fact that you have never seen anyone convincingly say christianity is a lie is a false premise.
Please kindly answer the following questions if you will:
1) You said from onset, there were witnesses and documentations to corroborate the story. Can you kindly tell me this witnesses and corroborations outside the Bible?
2) From historical records, Jesus as a person existed though his name wasn't Jesus, but Yeshua. Jesus is not a Jewish name. Historical records also point to the fact that his teachings were different from the Judaism teachings of his time leading to his eventual crucifixion because the established Jewish hierarchy saw him as a threat to their own religion at the time..
Do you know why crucifixion was used to kill this person rather than any other means?
3)Do you know that heaven is a state of mind rather than an actual place?

The fact that you didn't see God or you don't know how he came to be doesn't mean there is no God.

This thread is not about the existence of a God. The existence of a God is an argument which does not not make sense because no-one can ever know.
This thread is about indoctrinated religious adherents who believe the Central being of their religious worship is the God of all creation.
Remember that even your bible as a christian said "Let us create man in our own image!"...
I didn't say that. All throughout the same bible, noone claimed to have seen this God, but they always hear him... How did they then conclude it was God? Have you ever asked yourself that question. Remember this were primitive men with primitive knowledge of the world as at the time.

Firstly, I want you to explain to me
How you came to be
How you were able to grow, you should be stunted.
The air you breath
How you were even able to move, grow, eat without refueling the air you breath in.

You have asked this question before when you asked me how I came into existence. This is another variation of the same question. A simple Google of the questions will succinctly explain everything you asked.
I'm not a biologist bro, neither did i study human anatomy.
If you are asking the above questions to learn rather than to embarrass, then I have told you the right source to get your answers.

See, any reasonable adult should know when someone is telling the truth and if Infact that's actually the truth.
While growing I was told God exist, Jesus exist, and they gave me the Bible to corraborate such stories but I took time to know if those were true, I confirmed it and it set me free.

Please how did you confirm that what you were told is true. I would really love to know.

To even tell you to repent though to you might be a waste of time but pls try to repent.

I was a devout Catholic for 23yrs.
Anyway, what exactly are you saying i should repent from?

I will like you to give me some real questions to prove to you God exist.

I have given you real questions. My final question to you is, how do weeds grow?

I'm waiting for your replies.
Regards!!!