In 2006, World record transfer was £50m for Zidane from 2001. No one will think to bid £40m then for Owen, but 18 year old Messi was receiving bid of €150m.
There is difference between exciting talent and phenomenom please.
The guy need to state his age seriously. He just dey fakanfa upandan. I bet my balls he never cross 23. Wait make I check him past posts, you will find he is just seeking admission this year.
Melvyn11: Adriano was called the new ronaldo he didn't do shit,Nasri was called the new zidane same thing happened. So calling any one the next maradonna or Pele didn't start from Messi. Owen at 19 was a golden boot winner twice ,word cup young player. That shiitts on wateva messi Did at 19.
Oga state your age before you mention me again.
There is difference between "the next" Maradona and "the heir" to Maradona.
I already considered Messi the best player in the world bar none in 2006/2007.
Unlimited22: Ibime, if we're to go by the argument we've been having about productivity for ages on here, Melvyn11 now has a very serious point.
He has no point! Productivity is relative to players in similar position and the expectations of the era. Comparing striker and wingers productivity in the mid-2000s is stüpidity. Ronaldinho was WPOTY in similar position to Messi with just 13 goals that season. Furthermore, that was Messis breakthrough season so a lot of his appearance in the 1st half of that season were as substitute. He only completed 90 mins 5 times that season. Next season he popped 17 goals with clear 90mins appearances.
Melvyn11: messi 2005/2006 stats 25 games, 8 goals, 3 assist. So because messi danced shaku shaku and one corner against Chelsea he was better than Owen lol. it's no longer Ucl goals and world cup goals but take ons lol.
This is how I know you are a young fòol with big mouth just looking at Wikipedia and chatting nonsense. Do you know the role of a winger especially in that era? Ronaldinho with 13 goals in 42 games was the undisputed WPOTY that same time. . . and that's because goalscoring was not expected of those players then unlike now.
Messi at 18 was already being called Maradonas heir and Ronaldinho said he is the best player he's ever seen. Tell me what they said about Owen.
Messi at 19, 17 goals in 36 games as a winger if it's stats you are looking for.
Before you quote me again, please state your age so I can confirm I am dealing with a Wikipedia-bred eediot.
Melvyn11: stop dodging the question. Come and defend your stupidity. How was Messi at 19 better than Owen at 19. If you like bring all your shameless tactics.. Ucl goals, word cup goals individual awards, we are waiting
Stop this. Messi at 19 was much better than Owen at 19. Are you blind?
Messi was already Barcas most feared player in 2005/2006. You can ask Chelsea or Asier Del Horno and Robben to be precise. Only an injury vs Chelsea in 2nd round kept him out of UCL final.
How old are you sef? Don't let me find out you are reviewing Messis teenage career from Wikipedia, what we saw with our eyes. Messi that InterMilan bid €150m Euros for when he was 18. Owen would not smell €40m at his peak.
You must be naive, young or blind to compare Owen and Messi at 18 or 19. Go and ask Stamford Bridge about Messi at 18
raumdeuter: Probably because owen didn't show he was significantly better than Sheringham. With the hordes of France's attacking talent, Mbappe starting shirt was never in doubt. Owen in France currently will be like martial who didn't even make the tournament
Nah Sheringham and Shearer already had an established and successful partnership.
Same way Henry and Trezeguet could not break France starting 11 despite having a stellar UCL campaign that year on the back of a stellar UEFA Cup campaign the prior year. Instead it was Stephane Guivarch the impotent striker that took shirt.
Melvyn11: so you are saying a player who won balon dor/ Eu wpoty at 22 was never touted for World Class seriously?
No, the Balon D'or at 22 was even a shock.. . . it was won off the back off a scintillating performance in FA Cup final vs Arsenal where he scored 2 goals to beat Arsenal 2-1. They just added UEFA Cup final victory over Alaves (5-4) and League Cup win to make a case for him.
He was touted as top England class, just like Gary Lineker and co. But nobody had him down as a future WPOTY winner.
raumdeuter: Why didn't owen replicate this at the world cup by scoring 4 like mbappe and Muller
To be fair, Sheringham started the World Cup. It took unbearable pressure from English fans and media for Owen to become a starter. I think it was against Raomania, he came on and scored, and became a starter in like the 3rd game. So he only started 2 games that world cup
It was same scenario with Darren Anderton vs David Beckham. Eventually Hoddle had to drop Anderton to give Beckham shirt.
Melvyn11: shut up. A debut World Cup for a teenager and he scored 2 Goals and you are spewing trash. How man goals did Messi and Ronaldo score in there various First World Cup Your timo Werner didn't do shit
Messi and Ronaldo were wingers then but Owen was a number 9.
I watched Owen from his first match to his last. Owen and Danny Cadarmarteri burst on the scene together, Owen for Liverpool and Cadamarteri for Everton. Cadamarteri was also garnering hype but started to fade after a few months.
Owen was a pacy player and good finisher but was never touted on World Class status like Messi and Mbappe.
BlueAngel444: P.S Owen was a boss at 19 (esp that his shot) not sure who is faster of the two him or Mbappe but I recall 19yr old Owen being better than a 19yr old Messi. ( Anelka 19>>>> Henry 19, Henry should not even be mentioned too much)[/b]
We have long marked you down as an eediot ever since you made a long post telling us Bakayoko is better than Tolisso, but this is the height of foolishness.
Melvyn11: Owen had an amazing World Cup in 1998 same as mbappe had now. Not his fault that England didn't win it. Your claimed mbappe was the best teenager since r9 which is bullocks. Owen was miles better mbappe as a Teenager and was a ballon dor winner at 22 youngest after r9 . Hell Rooney at 18 was even better. A world cup medal doesn't make Giroud better than Suarez
Do you know the difference between Balon D'or in 2001 and now?
Balon D'or then was not the WPOTY that Balon D'or is now. Then Balon D'or was European Player of the year, voted for by French football magazine, while FIFA WPOTY was the main koko. Balon D'or then was for losers like Owen, Shevchenko etc while Ronaldo, Zidane and Figo win the real thing.
Owen was never better than Mbappe, not even close. Owen vs Mbappe is like Owen vs Henry in those days.
afrodoc2: But Kante vs Busquet should no longer be an argument. Busquet is yestesday’s man and has been found out post-Xavi. In a non-possession team he is as useful as a waterproof teabag.
raumdeuter: Where did you now see Pogba at LWB? Pavard can play at RCB that is what he plays at his club but I havent seen Umtiti play Left back before
Umtiti has played LB severally for Barca and played there at Lyon for a few years before converting to CB. There was no outstanding LB in the tournament so it's no problem to shift Umtiti there to make space for Yerry Mina
homesteady: I was just defending my fellow comrade that day
Ehen another Midfielder that you started a hate campaign against won the Golden Boot award and is a very strong contender for Balon d'or and European best player.
Mr Ibime, What do you have to say about this?
I have not started a hate campaign against Modric except to say he does not have the qualities of an AM. You can ask Van Der Vaart about that.
Whereas Modric is not an AM, he is one of the best midfield controllers. . . . .unlike one Iniesther who is an unproductive AM and an average midfield contoller.
Unlimited22: LOL If you've used Swiftkey, some words that you use often, English or not, will automatically become predictions. Phrases included. Eg I don't need to type monikers like Ibime, Skimpledawg, Airmark, chic2pimp, Hensben, unlimited22, Popizaino, Raumdeuter, Nihilstjnr, etc because I type then often and they are now predicted words.
Ta! Even Homesteady & Debroslink don disown you:
Debroslink: LanaUn abi Lana1, swiftkey is not responsible for someone calling Mbappe a La Liga player. 100 million users of SwiftKey worldwide disassociate from such.