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raumdeuter:
Actually with his City team Chelsea is how many points behind? 81-56 as a Mathematician abeg whats that figure

Tell us about last seson and how Conte won with a weaker squad while Pep was disgracing himself. Until Pep do something like Conte did last season, he has not bought ticket to be compared with real managers.

raumdeuter:
within 17mins last night, Barcelona was already 2-0 ahead of Conte.

With this Chelsea team, Pep would have been 5-0 down within 10 minutes.

raumdeuter:
And the status of Madrid not winning the CL in 2012 should not be blamed on Mourinho?

Bayern beat Madrid under Mourinho, Ancelotti whitewashed them, Dortmund beat Madrid under Mourinho, Ancelotti beat them

That shows Madrid was a topdog way before they won the CL in 2014

There is no logical way you can separate the situation of Barca pre 2009 from the situation of Madrid pre 2014

Carlo took over a team that was far more talented than Bayern and Dortmund he only did what was expected of Madrid.

Now Carlo swapped to Bayern played Madrid coached by Zidane and he lost home and away last season

That is to show that Madrid under Ancelotti were no underdog so find another lie

I am not interested in your story about JM underperforming in Madrid. He has already overperformed at Porto and Inter.

When we talk of top managers, the ability to coach players to beat a better team is a prerequisite for proving yourself. All top managers have done that. Pep is yet to buy ticket to even board the bus.

When Pep buys ticket, I will compare him to real managers.

popizaino:
beside lahm coming in to defend pep when real madrid defeated bayern Munich it's takes only a stupid and clueless coach like mourinho not to outclass bayern Munich with a real madrid squad.
meanwhile not discrediting the work of jupp heckynes pls ask yourself the honourable question will jupp heckynes had it so easy against barca at the level they were a year before they met?

Sharrap jare. We are talking of top teams facing each other in tight matches, you are trying to justify Pep losing 5 goals and 7 goals. No one should quote me on how many goals Pep conceded cos I lost count after 1st half.

That's where the fraud was spotted. He cannot even keep his team in a 180 minute tie for 30 minutes without conceding 3 or 4 goals. As soon as the opposition had better players, his nyash was open like a prostitute in Soho.

What Conte did with Chelsea last season, Pep can never do. He must run to where he can find the best players if not he is useless.

popizaino:
hahahaha.

keep shooting yourself .
Ask yourself what was the status of barca team in laliga while pep won the ucl with them.pep guardiola also took the same players tgat finished 3rd in laliga to win ucl with them repeatedly.

you and I know pep guardiola won't ever sweat winning everything with the madrid squad ancelotti won the ucl with.

The status of Barca team in Laliga in 2008 should be blamed on fraud Rijkaard. Anyone who watches football then knows those are the best players in the world. Rijkaard just uselessed them. I don't need awards to know that Michael Carrick and Scholes can never be overdog over Xavi, Toure and Iniesta, Rooney can never be overdog over Eto, Nani can never be over Henry or Villa, and Ronaldo can never be overdog over Messi.

Even in 2008, when Utd beat Rijkaards team, they knew who were the better team and were celebrating like they achieved the impossible after parking bus for 180 minutes. First leg possession stats was 73% to Barca, 2nd leg was 63% to Barca. Only a fool who did not live in that time will come and tell us Pep took over a team that were not far more talented than Utd, and everyone else for that matter.

popizaino:
you and I know pep guardiola won't ever sweat winning everything with the madrid squad ancelotti won the ucl with.

No, he won't sweat with Madrid squad but he will piss and shyt himself to 5 goal hammerings using Jupp Heynckes Bayern squad that used to win UCL and even flog Barca 7-0 while doing so.

popizaino:
by the way why didn't frank rijkaard whose players were also superior to man United win them in the semi finals?

Go and ask Frank Rijkaard who relegated a team in Holland and failed in Saudi Arabia. Rijkaard is a bigger fraud.

When Fergie parked double-decker in 2008 to fluke past Barca, that was a case of Underdog beating overdog. Those United players have never been those Barca players mates. Chelsea used to play both teams in the 2000s and we known they aren't mates, even under the fraud Rijkaard.

femiti:
So fergie was the underdog in dat 2009 finals ? Weldone sir

Yes he was. Please don't quote bookies. Barca set of players were superior to Utd.

raumdeuter:
When and what did Ancelotti win anything as an underdog vs DiMatteo, When and what did Jogi Loew win as an underdog vs Rehhagel?

What is the status of Milan team in Serie A while Ancelotti was winning UCL. Ancelotti can take the same players that finish 4th in Serie A and win UCL with them repeatedly. Ancelotti can take a group of Real players who have not seen UCL final for 10 years, and 2nd best in Spain, yet tactically set them up to win UCL

Pep is yet to beat a team with better players than his in his 10 year management history.

femiti:
Pep vs fergie in 2009 ucl finals...abeg who waz the underdog and overdog ? Radarada full some pple mouth sha

The only time we have seen Pep as underdog is in Bayern and he got disgraced. If he wins UCL with City this season, he can clear his name.

Fergie has been proving himself against better teams since winning Cup Winners Cup with Aberdeen. There is no manager Dayo listed that has not shown he can beat a better team to win something. . . except Pep.

raumdeuter:
Did Allegri dominate Barcelonas midfield last season

When will Mourinho become a fraud after losing at home to Sevilla? Winning trophies by fluke with Porto 14yrs ago doesnt stop you from being a fraud.
DiMatteo won as an underdog no one will compare him to Ancelotti,
Benitez won as an underdog no one will compare him to Ferguson,
Rehhagel won as an underdog no one will compare him to Jogi Low.
Its winning when the pressure is on you not when there is no pressure

A fraud is 16points ahead on the EPL, Will you just admit EPL is then a fraud league

Logic is lost on you.

All the managers above have won something as underdog. They have all proven themselves in adversity. When will Pep win as underdog?

ollah2:
You write with too much emotions sometimes. From Emenalo to Barca's midfield don cast since 4 years ago.

Barca have won a treble, consecutive league titles amongst others with the said "casted" and " xavi" imposter. How many trophies has Chelsea won within that time range with the uncasted and highly rated Hazard?

This season is the worst Chelsea season in recent years and it happens to be when Emenalo isn't at the helms of affairs. I'm dead sure, you would have faulted him for last night and your poor season overall if here was still around.

The loss of Xavi alone can never be the end of Barca since there are MSN there. However no one will deny that since Xavi left, you are nowhere near as dominant and get sonned habitually in UCL which never happened with Xavi in his prime.

Did someone not prove you are a mumu somewhere? How many months ago did Emenalo leave? Has Chelsea changed any midfielder since Emenalo left? Is there any CM at Chelsea now that was not here under Emenalo? So if I shít in your house and leave, I should not be blamed for smell of faeces after I am gone?

Please don't quote me again with stüpid level of reasoning.

raumdeuter:
The cast midfield still ate Chelsea raw. Yet you are expecting a team coached by a fraud to boss Barcelona midfield. The same midfield who just sodomized yours.

If city meet and should eliminate Barcelona, we will start hearing how pep has a better squad than Barcelona

Mourinho the tactical mastermind just got disgraced by Sevilla a team 5th in Spain and whose biggest signing is Muriel when are you going to call him what he is. A fraud

Is Chelsea midfield up to much? How would City dominating Barca midfield be any different to Allegri of last season?

Pep remains a fraud till he wins something as the underdog. He's not done that yet.

raumdeuter:
You mean the team coached by Fraudiola will have Barcelona chasing shadows, the same Barcelona that beat Chelsea like a child

Would have the midfield chasing shadows yes. No be today I talk say Barca midfield don cast. Ever since Xavi left and the Xavi-impostor Iniesta was tasked with running their midfield, their midfield don cast since 4 years ago. But it's even worse this season since the switch to 4-4-2.

Thecassanova:
We keep saying, Don't Start Hazard as false 9, Use a striker etc. Good against small teams, but top teams I doubt.

Conte played with the formation last night to prove some points

1. Pedro offball movement is brilliant. He was using him along Alonso @wing & also to help Fab-Kante midfield combo. Hazard offball movement is weak.

I'm sure for that first goal, Pedro would have been the one to follow up messi.

2. Our strikers are lazy, Giroud can't chase at defenders well, Morata falls down easily etc

I spotted that as well. In the build up to that goal Giroud could have been more lively in the earlier phase and Pedro would probably have followed Messi.

The problem is not whether to start a striker or not, but whether those strikers are up to the demands.

As for me, Morata woulda been better upfront cos he's got more legs for closing. Giroud was just meh.

raumdeuter:
You were already 1 goal down. And you needed to do something to get a goal

We were behind on away goals before the match started and needed to get a goal so nothing had changed.

It's not like we have fantastic players that we should throw caution to the wind. No be the same useless players we dey watch every week?

Greatihex:
How can hazard be in an opponent's penalty box and he is passing the ball to willian. Is willian the one putting on his shooting boot? That guy has brain problem. That guy must have bn cursed frm birth to neva be great. Hapa!

Bro, change your signature.

raumdeuter:
You conceded a goal before any of your players could touch the ball. That had you chasing the game. The first goal conceded, it wasnt like you were attacking when you conceded at that point any 0-0 dream was out of the window

2nd goal while trying to play IN YOUR HALF, you lost the ball and Messi sent Dembele clear

What happened after the first goal shows what would happen if you give Messi the space of a normal player.

2nd goal, Fab lost the ball near halfway and there was only one player behind him. That's not a low block. That was Chelsea going toe-to-toe on equal terms with Barca.

Sweetguy25:
We played against the worst Barca side I have seen in a long time

I'm not impressed with that Barca midfield either. Looks like Man City would have that midfield chasing shadows.

PDPGuy:
I wonder whether Conte could have been more adventurous in the first leg. Because this Barca team are not better than Man City, let alone Juventus.

The ultra-defensive game in the first leg may have cost us, in the long run.

How has it cost us?

The approach he took in the 1st leg got a creditable draw while the 2nd leg took us out the tie by 17th minute. We even hit bar few times in 1st leg.

If you don't deny Messi space by sitting deep, you will be feeling good about the way you are attacking Barca while Messi is killing you. It's like dying while enjoying your death. I will rather be 0-0 in 85th minute with small hope than enjoy my own death for 90 minutes

diggz:
Congrats Messi FC.... You made the difference.... Congrats god!

Fear of Messi is what make teams park bus, not because you cannot go toe to toe with them for possession. You just need to know that every situation Messi turns into a goal, your own strikers will need 3 of those situations to do the same.

At least let Giroud come off, let's have a taste of what Morata coulda brought different

Thunder fire the Tortoise

Come on Alonso, we need to finish that.

Thunder fire Moses dia!

Giroud just dey fück up Willian game here.

Bring on Morata jor.

Hazard has disappeared since the 15th minute

Tortoise get luck say that goal no enter

Na him for carry mouth go beg Chelsea to just offer him £20k per week and call it even.

Cruxifizio:
Can we take out fabregas for Pedro?

Cruxifizio:
What's the guys name from Roma we just bought? Emerson can even come in for fabregas plssss

The way you are going you might soon call for call for Caballero to replace Fab

Willian should never be benched at Chelsea again. He has gone to another level.

raumdeuter:
2012 under Di Matteo, Barcelona took a 2-0 lead also

1 goal was all we needed that match

Nihilstjnr:
i didnt hear you say anything when Christensen made serious mistakes in 3 consecutive matches.

Thats the last 3 matches o.

Christiansen can always change his decision making, but Fabregas can never change the fact he is a snail.