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DissTroy:
Actually, there is. Being freed was how Jaja of Opobo could live freely at Ikot Abasi which is a Southern Ibibio area and right on the Ocean. And if he wasn't free, he'd have been captured and resold.

The Southern Ibibios and Ijaws were notorious slave-dealers (another reason I shit on those who blame the West for slavery) and raided or acted as middlemen for slaves.
Ikot Abasi itself was the HQ of shipping slaves to the Americas or other parts, and later the HQ of British Administration.

No slave would have walked free there.

That's for external slavery (if they ship you abroad). But once you are an internal slave, you are a vital part of the House with rights and responsibilities of any member of the house.

Jaja would have no reason to run away from his house because he is now a full member of his house. He is there on business like other members and was probably there in a leadership capacity. Anything across the Imo River, Jaja was always involved in business with all tribes on both sides of the River and up all the way to Umahia and Arochukwu, I don't doubt he would have spent time in Ikot Abasi which was a major trading port and also as far as Fernando Po in Equitorial Guinea sef.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Lol. I wonder why the Northern Igbos who conducted large trade with the Igala people did not adopt the Igala language.


Abeg u shld stick to accounting/economics where u can back up your claims with facts & figures.

Same way Okrika and Kalabari did not adopt Igbo language. It's based on the ratio of indigenes to immigrants. Igbo immigrants far outnumbered the Ibani in the short space of only 30 years and their language became the language of the immigrants. Their original language still exists and is spoken by a few. Both immigrants and true born are spending a lot of their time upland in Igbo areas where the Palm Oil is sourced trading Palm Oil so they all speak Igbo. If you put 80 freshies who only speak Igbo with 20 indigenes who speak both Ibani and Igbo, and they are trading all the time with Igbos, their language of communication will invariably be Igbo. But their customs, deities and chieftaincy and Kingship structure remain Ijaw and they identify as Ijaws, that's all that matters. You are speaking to an Igbo blood (me) who got absorbed into Ijaw Kingdom and identify as Ijaw, na so e be. Ijaw Kingdoms are like Rome, no matter where you originated from, you become son of the soil.

We have treaties and historical evidence of treaties between Bonny and Okrika Kings dating back to 17th century within an Ijaw context and relating within Ijaw language so you can't erase history. Igbo nationhood is a modern concept of the last 120 years within the Nigerian context. Igbos were a collection of unrelated Republican villages without a consolidated Government and war structure until the British labelled all these villages as Eboe, giving them an identity. This lack of organisation is a reason why the Igbos were preyed upon by organised Kingdoms like the Ijaws, Ibibios, Benins and Oyos and why they form the majority of slave blood in the Americas today. The Igbos are the biggest victims of slavery and that speaks to their lack of organised Kingdoms. Only the Arochukwu were organised within the Igbo and they preyed on the Igbo massively. They never saw themselves as fellow Igbos till the British gave them identity. So Igbo cannot be claiming ownership of established and powerful Kingdoms in 2023 when they have no history of establishing such Kingdoms.

iamoyindamola:
Exactly Opobo originates from calabar/Akwa Ibom
Growing up I was surprised opobo is now located in rivers

Which one you dey now. How is Opobo in Akwa Ibom? Opobo has always been in Rivers. Akwa-Ibom is on the other other side of the river.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
We're talking about the origin dude.
Pls can u tell us how Igbo language became the mother tongue in Opobo? The omugwo culture too?...

I have just told you. Read my post above. Palm Oil trade which led to influx of slaves making Igbo born outnumber the true born Bonny almost ten to one.

Opobo is just a split out from Bonny so trace the Palm Oil trade in Bonny to discover how both Bonny and Opobo came to speak Igbo

Do Igbo Kingdoms have Amanyanabo, war canoe houses and Ijaw societal structure? Amanyanabo Danderson Jaja of Opobo is my relative, no talk wetin you no know.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Fake news spotted!

Nwaotam is an Igbo masquerade which has it origin from Ndoki.

Igbo language is the mother tongue in Opobo.
Azumini, Ohambele, Afam, Akwete, Akirika-Obu are all Ndoki clan. Akwete, an Ndoki clan is the heritage site of Igbo traditional cloth weaving.

Soludo is their biggest promoter cox since he took over as gov na Akwete made fabric he dey wear. Davido's paternal grandmother Chief Nnenna Esther Adeleke is from Akwete.


In SS, the Ndoki people can be found in Ikanafun LGA i.e Akwa-Ibom state & Obigbo LGA i.e Rivers state.

Nwaotam is also in Bonny. Who had it first is a matter of conjecture. Ndoki and Bonny are from the same source.

Listing all the town of Ndoki will not make the masquerade more Ndoki. I can as well list all the towns of Bonny. Bonny is the bigger brother to Ndoki by far so chances are that Ndoki took the idea from Bonny. Saying otherwise is like saying England is copying Wales.

DissTroy:
"Opobo is just a subgroup of Bonny who split out under Jaja of Opobo during the Bonny civil war and chased the Ibeno off their land to found what we now call Opobo."

[b]Not true. Jaja of Opobo resided in Ikot Abasi LGA in Akwa Ibom (just where you have the Bridge of No Return) after he was freed from slavery. Opobo was already a defined place before Jaja crossed over to go be its king.

The relatives of the Opobos are the Eastern Obolos who were nomadic fishermen and given land to settle on the shore by the Southern Ibibios (the Ikot Abasi). Over the centuries, they intermarried and are no longer distinctively Ibibio or Ijaw - a mix of both.

The whole of Ikot Abasi, Eastern Obolo, and Mkpat Enin in Akwa Ibom and Opobo in Rivers were administered under Opobo Division during the colonial era.

The Ibenos were traditionally a nomadic fishing people who are a mix of Ijaw and Ibibio, and never owned lands except those given by the Ekid (Eket) - another Southern Ibibio ethnicity.

The Ibenos didn't own Opobo to begin with. Present-day Opobo. like Ibeno and Eastern Obolo, were fishing ports.

There was no war or chasing.

The actual war was between the Southern Ibibios and Ogonis.

Hahaha. Ibibio done also make their own claim

You are right. Jaja took Opobo from the Andoni, but he also fought and decimated the Ibeno in the Jaja-Ibeno war. I got that mixed up between them.

The bolded is wrong though. There is no such thing as being "freed from slavery" in Ijaw culture that will make you run away to another land. A slave in Ijaw land is part of the family who has the opportunity to become the head of the house, just as much as any other true born son of the house. Jaja went from slave to head of the House so he didn't have to run anywhere. He may have resided in Ikot Abasi for Business but not as a result of being freed and running away. He was head of his house, and if he was there, he was there on Business representing his house.

Fun fact, Gbadebo Rhodes Vivour great grandfather was also involved in the Jaja-Ibeno wars on the side of Ibeno. He was also a big Palm Oil trader, operating out of Equitorial Guinea and trading with the Ibeno. Jaja cannoned the Ibeno to smithereens, I've forgotten the joke Jaja made about the Ibeno but it was something to the effect of he's just playing with the Ibenos for now, that if he unleash his full firepower, he will wipe them out of existence

swiz123:
I just wanted to confirm if Opobo are Igbos. Looking past Fubara's shenanigans, some truth are inherent and that is Opobo people are predominantly Igbos judging my his fluency in the language.

I am sure before now, most people didn't know this.

Opobo, Bonny, Okrika and Kalabari are like Rome. Only few people from Rome are of original Roman blood. Most came there for trade, for better life, or by slavery.

These Ijaw City States population expanded exponentially during the slave trade and Palm Oil trade (but mostly exponentially during the Palm Oil trade) taking in Igbo traders and mostly Igbo slaves to run the Palm Oil business. Each house needed hundreds of men to row up the Imo River and purchase Palm Oil from the hinterland so they inculcated slaves into their houses. That's how Jaja came to Bonny as a slave of Anna Pepple (Perekule) house, and worked his way to head of the house. For context the population of Bonny was only 3,000 before the population exploded due to the Slave and Palm Oil trade.

Eventually in the case of Bonny, the Igbo slaves outnumbered the Ijaws almost 10 to 1 such was the manpower needed for the Palm Oil trade, that Igbo became the defacto language of Bonny. They still identify as Ijaws keeping the Ijaw customs and titles, but their language is fully Igbo. Now Jaja was such a skilled trader and grew Anna Pepple house population so exponentially, part of his success was his ability to get manpower and penetrate the Igbo hinterland so his house (Anna Pepple) absorbed more Igbos and is even more Igbo than Bonny. This house now became Opobo when Jaja took them up Imo River to settle new land during the war with Manilla Pepple house. That's why I put Opobo Igbo blood at 80-90% Igbo, higher than Bonny which I put at 70-80% Igbo.

Similar absorption of Igbos occured in Okrika and Kalabari but to a lesser extent. However you will find whole villages or houses from Igbo origin even there. My grandmaternal village is made of 7 houses, all 7 houses are of Igbo origin, and even the founder of the village was an Igbo man who grew to head his own house, then spilt out and founded our village. His 7 slaves which give their name to the compounds of our village today are also all of Igbo descent. I put Okrika and Kalabari at 20-40% Igbo by blood.

However all these City States still maintain their Ijawness, Ijaw customs, House structure, deities and Amanyanabos, but in the case of Bonny and Opobo, their language has changed completely to Igbo

The other Ijaw City States which have strong history of intermingling with the Igbo are Nembe and Akassa in Bayelsa.

OkpaNsukkaisBae:
Yes. In Opobo, Igbo language is the mother tongue/native language. Their high ranking masquarede is called "Nwaotam" which has it origin from Ndoki. They sure have their rep in Ohaneze.

Nwaotam masquerade is from Bonny

Ndoki and Bonny are from the same root. Ndoki are Ijaws who migrated upward and joined the Igbos while their Bonny brothers settled in Finima

Opobo is just a subgroup of Bonny who split out under Jaja of Opobo during the Bonny civil war and chased the Ibeno off their land to found what we now call Opobo

swiz123:
The Rivers state governor Fubara addressed his fellow Opobo people as "gburugburu ndi Igbo. Does it mean that Opobo people are full-blooded Igbos, more so, the man's Igbo is very central and clean.

E be like he's not getting much support from Ijaws in his fight with Wike so he want try IPOB

Good move anyway since Igbos are pissed with Wike

BTW, Opobo have more Igbo blood than the Ikwerres. Their blood should be 80-90% Igbo, Bonny blood is 70-80% Igbo while Okrika and Kalabari blood are 30-40% Igbo.

Itsrm:

Esprit de corps between snail DMs

iamoyindamola:
I don't think he negotiated 🤣🤣

It says she got an 8 figure sum

raumdeuter:
P Diddy accuser settle case

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/11/17/sean-combs-cassie-settle-her-bombshell-rape-sex-trafficking-lawsuit-day-after-filing.html

Hahaha. P Diddy is a wise man, he no get time for being dragged

Cassie is also a smart hard nosed girl. After all the justice cries and right to speak up lamba, she was after the hard cold cash

She wanted $30m, I reckon Diddy paid $20m-$30m

Obrigardo:
What job is that you stupid piece of shit?
Have you ever seen any of the Jan. 6th footage before? The destruction and carnage by maga cultists?

What the fvck are you talking about? the speaker has done his job?
Idioty

Those two clowns are eediots

The Jan 6th denial effort by Maga cultists only works on Maga cultists. The rest of the public has better things to do

Mazinewmoney:
Cc:ibime sir, What inspired you to buy Cyber Truck?

Cybertruck launch coming soon, around 30th Nov

henrimoto:
Where is your brother's current location ?

Can't your brother make arrangements to hand-over the vault keys to the bank management. ?

The lady is already doubting the marriage. In her mind, she is like, "is this what I will face in this marriage?" No Attention!

You be man or woman?

Man get work, you dey relate to frivolous talks. The woman is selfish

donjazzet:
Their bigotry no go let them reason clear.
They are hailing a murderous dictator simply because he's endorsing harmful bad hateful laws towards another group of minorities they don't like, forgetting that hatred no dey look face.

By the way Ibime, what's up with UK politics, do the Tories have a chance in the next elections or are Labour party still too irrational for a lot of voters?

Tories time is over, Labour to take over

People are tired of Tory infighting for the last 7 years. As Keir Starmer present centrist face, dem go flow go Labour. But I trust say the far left wing of Labour who are the most powerful go overthrow Starmer before long

iamoyindamola:
Darlington I am beginning to like Putin

https://www.nairaland.com/7914167/russia-outlaw-gays-lesbians-lgbtq

Putin the biggest sponsor of anti-immigrant parties and far-right sentiment. Say you find common enemy no make am your friend. You are also a target of his doings if you step foot in the West. It's his sponsored parties and friends that will paint you as subhuman

BlueRayDick:
https://www.nairaland.com/7913299/israeli-army-says-it-finds

Amoto94 have u seen this ? Ammunitions found inside tunnel and ammunitions found at the hospital

Israel intelligence has fúcked up and left them with egg on their face

They better find that tunnel. Placing few guns here and there is not evidence of tunnel

erniok:
No mind that idiot. The video he dropped did he watch it, claiming a scene that never happened was there.
I will no longer discuss with him as his difficulty to comprehend na top notch and he wears it as a badge of honour yet looking for medications.

You sef done lose your sympathy?

timbros:
Must they have a cut?

Was there an official in Zambia collecting half of what he was paid then?

Remove that corruption in NFF anf Naija can comfortably pay most coaches today.

And that corruption is the reason why you see nonsense shortlists when a new coach is needed.

So you no factor that one when you dey call for new coach?

@ nihilistjnr,

Your mentor is asking for donations. I know say Hanks life done change when you see this thread, as Odogwu wey you be

https://www.nairaland.com/7913652/hanks-anuku-cries-been-jobless

timbros:
Before Saudi came on board, Naija would have snapped him if they wanted.

NFF boss taking half of coach salary didn't mean Naija can't afford paying a coach. It's just corruption.

So any salary you think any coach will accept, double it for NFF cut

And they usually still go unpaid for months. They are still owing Rohr delinquently like State civil servant

timbros:
Naija afford am put jara wella.

Zambia afford him but Naija couldn't?

Zambia price is not Saudi price

Remember Rohr official salary, half is for Pinnick

Even Jose salary, half is for NFF boss

timbros:
Deschamps is just a wild example to buttress my point.

Remember I mentioned that guy that took Saudi Arabia to the world cup... Remind me his name again. Former Zambia and, I think, Morocco coach.

Tell me if he wouldn't be an upgrade to Rohr.. Can't Nigeria employ that calibre of coach?

That I support sacking of Rohr doesn't mean I want us to downgrade.

Naija no fit afford that guy

popizaino:


What a coincidence! Exactly 2years later he is been dragged just the way i already anticipated.

He was already dragged when Eguavoen messed up the WC qualifier against Ghana. We have already forgiven him

popizaino:
Abobi,nobody said you supported the appointment of Jose but you asked the FA to sack Rohr which brought about the appointment of Jose. And besides you said you don't care about who replaces Rohr,so automatically you supported the appointment of Jose.

Before you start speaking Port-Harcourt English,look at the quote below.

You done hol am for blockos

Ballzproblemm:
I mean we talking of Messi here ,not everyone has the privilege to be close to world best , I'd kiss ass too

The point is Ugarte was telling him he doesn't merit his place in Argentina team except for the fact he is a Messi cōcksucker and bodyguard

Shoodboi:
Use the money to pay for your education. Even a basket knows that only doctors give prescriptions, so there's no way I can get one without seeing a doctor. Ibime data.

Seriously, if I knew my statement would pain you this much, I would've used it on you long ago. Dunce.

What's wrong with you seeing a Doctor then? You don't have access to private hospital or you can't afford one?

Shoodboi:
I've researched extensively on this for about a year now, and discovered ADHD drugs need a prescription. So how can I get a prescription, maybe from a government or private hospital?

I'd appreciate it if you could be a bit more detailed with your answers, and maybe tell me the price involved too. Thanks a lot.

timbros:
I supported the sack doesn't mean I wanted a downgrade of a coach.

If we had sacked Rohr and appointed, say, Deschamps and Super Eagles started flogging everyone that comes their way, would you come here and hail me for supporting Rohr's sack?

So in your mind, Super Eagles can go for calibre of coaches like Deschamps

Timbros! Shey I warn you say Rohr is the best and most consistent Super Eagles coach of the last decade, and the best we can hope to get? The only coach where you don't have to do Mathematics in qualifiers

Rohr opened the door for foreign trained players of a high calibre to want to play for Naija. All these Nathan Tella, Lookman, Ola Aina and top stars we are getting now is thanks to Rohrs legacy

Trevor012:
So Uruguay flog Argentina and Ugarte called De Paul Messi c*ck sucker 😂😂

Is he wrong?

Shoodboi:
Lol. I see you are pained. When and where did I mention not having money for a doctor? Seriously, I didn't know this would pain you like this. If I knew, I would've taken time to make it more painful. Data kangaroo. I can send you some money if you want. So you can at least eat because I know you'll also be hungry.

Sure you have access to Doctor, and cannot visit one to get a prescription

Moshood, call any private hospital in Nigeria and tell them you need a consultation with a Doctor to get prescription for ADHD. Tell them your friend Ibime will foot all bills.

Shoodboi:
I've researched extensively on this for about a year now, and discovered ADHD drugs need a prescription. So how can I get a prescription, maybe from a government or private hospital?

I'd appreciate it if you could be a bit more detailed with your answers, and maybe tell me the price involved too. Thanks a lot.

Shoodboi:
Looks like my comment hit the right nerves... to have brought you out of the hole you're hiding. You're such a pathetic loser. And I never cussed you. I only said you didn't have money for data. But I see you're pained. Expect more from me soon. Let me finish with that senior kangaroo called erniok. Ibime kangaroo. Ibime roo

I don't have money for data, you don't have money for Doctor, all is fair. Let me know if you need help with that Moshood