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popizaino:
We will come back to Fabregas/matic/Lampard matter when the time comes for now let dismiss whatever hope you have that a skill-less Lampard will thrive in a typical Spanish system that required every player to at least to be very good at holding the ball under pressure. That is not a system Lampard will thrive but expose himself.

You don't know ball. Do you know how easy it is for the AM to keep possession when the two deeplying midfielders are possession players. Go and ask Ancelotti how easy it was to dominate all possession in 2009/10 with Lampard in his team

Go and ask Bayern if they have struggled to keep possession for 14 years with Muller in the team. Or how did Barca keep up 70-80% possession when Seydou Keita stepped in, or even a donkey like Mascherano that can't hold midfield on his own as evidenced at Liverpool and Argentina without rondo players beside him

Iniesta job is not to add to a full possession cup. He never did. His passing stats were low. His job is to win the game, not hiding under other players possession work. You think Iniesta was contributing to Spain possession when they've already packed Busquets, Alonso and Xavi in midfield and shift him to the wing?

popizaino:
The same you will check Jorginho passing stats and when presented with higher passing stat you will still come up with the excuse that he doesn't control shit.

Jogginghoe passing stats is only against small clubs, all dem West Ham, Crotone and co. Jogginghoe always park bus against big clubs so we can't rate him for tikitaka

Xavi will sit any big club down with 70-80% possession, don't compare apples and oranges. Not to mention Xavi can pull an assist easy which Jogginghoe cannot

I did some research, and from 2007 to 2014, Xavi only failed to dominate possession once, when he dipped to like 48% against Real Madrid during Sneijder days. No CM in history has ever been as dominant in possession as Xavi

I remember ElClassico in Pellegrini and Mourinho early days when Ronaldo will be getting pumped up to go head 2 head with Messi to prove he's the best only for Xavi to suffocate Madrid with 70% possession and Ronaldo not to touch ball. Xavi was a wicked soul. He frustrated life out of Ronaldo.

A40:
That is because he is the Greatest passenger of all time. Holy shit

Can you believe this joker did not score a single goal in both Euro triumphs. The deeper I dig the worse it is for your boy

You think if Muller had Ronaldinho, Eto'o, Henry, Neymar, Messi, Suarez, Silva, Villa, Fabregas, Torres, Xavi carrying him for club and country he wouldn't have 2 Euros and 4 CLs

Are you surprised? Someone that has 2 GA in the three international titles

If someone's team can score over hundred goals in the league in a calendar year, presenting him over 200 opportunities to contribute a GA, and he didn't contribute one, just know he should be prosecuted at The Hague for fraud!

Even the tikitaka XaviEsta possession is a fraud he sneaked himself in. If you check passing stats, you will see he was not involved. That became evident after Xavi exited the stage.

bisqit:
arsenal was his prime years. Where he did things belie his age

Yep, he went down physically at Barca

bisqit:
go and watch fabregas of 2005-2009. You are saying bullshit

What of the one of 2011 to date which is the period in question

hensben:
Messi will be glad to have Lampard who was superior than iniesta and rakitic to ease his burden of scoring and assisting goals.

If Messi had Lampard by his side, he will be more goated today having won more UCL and more Balon d'Or

Lampard has like 7 GA in UCL semifinals. Imagine all those semi against Man Utd, Inter, Atleti, Chelsea etc that Messi was getting knocked out for no reason and just needed someone to contribute something

popizaino:
Fabregas no fit but passes well than Lampard. Fabregas was scoring and assisting showing us iniesta excuse was Lamba and they couldn't win the UCL. A mystery i am yet to understand.

How many season did Fabregas play with Pep?

The reason Fabregas got chased from Barca is the reason common Matic and Jogginghoe chased him from Chelsea. Fabregas is not physically fit to be a modern day footballer. If it's by passing alone, Carlos Valderamma will still be playing football today.

Fabregas has nothing to do with Lampard. Compare Fabregas to Matic that benched him handsomely

popizaino:
Fabregas a player who can spot a niddle from a distance went to Barca and we saw the result.

Zlatan Ibrahimovic with his goal records went to Barca we saw the end of it.


Frank Lampard will not thrive in Barca/pep set up .

Lampard will not only thrive, he will throw Iniesta to the left wing or bench

Na so una talk, a 35 year old Lampard went to play for Pellegrini at Man City and was scoring nearly every game

Seydou Keita played for Barca and did very well, Muller played for Pep and scored unbelievable numbers

popizaino:
If wishes were horses I would have wished iniesta didn't play so that we they reach semifinals and get knocked out by Germany like he got knocked out by inter milan,you will not come here and tell us he did zilch until the final goal.

Hush your agenda

Xavi assisted every goal Spain scored from 2nd round to get to final

No one cares about your Eden Hazard-lite entertaining himself on the left wing with shakushaku

raumdeuter:
All these shalaye was why Lampard didnt have a world cup goal? No world cup goal in 2006, none in 2010 none in 2014

He has enough in Euros which is a tougher tournament

Kilishihunter:
You want to compare Carlo 's possession footy with you guys to tiki taka? Oga ibime well done
Na so them we think say fabregas go come contest with our xavi and iniesta with his more direct style of play and through balls before he was shunted around the pitch before letting him go seasons later to get rakitic, What of song? Even worse, England helped us unravel the myth which was Lampard so I no need to yarn too much on am

Fabregas wey no fit run

We all know Fabregas undoing, he cannot run anything like the level required to be a modern midfielder

Yet he still went there and showed the Iniesta excuse for not scoring was lamba. Fabregas still scored, he just couldn't press or keep up in midfield to replace Xavi. That is not Lampard problem

raumdeuter:
Lampard played 2006 2010 and 2014 world cup and failed at all of them. At his peak England even failed to qualify for Euro 2008

How old was he in 2014?

2006, only penalties took England out in QF, they could have won the tournament. That was the only tournament England had a DM, which was always England's undoing

2010, Capello decide to go to World Cup with Heskey, playing 4-4-2 with no DM, him wahala

raumdeuter:
The same activity wey Lampard get and ended world cup with most shots without a goal

Box activity. All those shots na 25 yards with Jabulani ball

Kilishihunter:
Even if Lampard played with Messi, there is absolutely no guarantee he would better his goals and assists at barça, is it someone that is more direct and gets those numbers wella from counter attacks that will be patient to do pass the ball, receive the ball until there's a good opening to score? Does he have the skill to weave through swarms of defenders like iniesta to drag defenders and create openings for his other teammates? Abi he will be dragging goals with messi who is mostly the final bustop of final passes from his teammates? Who will even allow him take set pieces?
That's how xavi would have also been dragged like everybody too if Messi had represented Spain

Lampard will absolutely crush it with Messi

When CLINICAL players get more activity in the box, they score more, it's simple probability

Na so dem say Lampard no go score for high possession team, when Ancelotti brought high possession football with common Deco and Belletti that Iniesta has been enjoying since, Lampard scored 27 and assisted 20 that season

Una get luck say Lampard no move go Barcelona when they wanted him. Common Modric that Lampard used to bully in EPL went there to be dragging status with your midfield goat

Taguchi:
we dey talk the same tin brotherly, na just say almost everybody no they believe say their own na Agenda, they argue like it's some objective fact

Truth be told, I love agenda sha if done properly, especially when it's been launched by Inteligent bosses like Ibims and co

Cause na only agenda fit make a former Pessimist sudenly become a Peletive

You are out to slander me, why you no quote the whole post for proper interpretation. Shey you see wickedness?

Messi is a GOAT but he never reach to top THE GOAT

Ibime:
What Pepe can only do with Messi (GOAT), Fergie will do with Dwight Yorke as his main man.

Pep is no different from Brazil coaches of the 60s and 70s winning with Pele.

Taguchi:
I no argue that wan,i love Modric but i know him limits too


my own be say if you wan agend atleast make your agenda dey consistent.

not something like this



Everybody is a carryalong


i dont even need to dig anything, i been sabi when you make most of these contradicting statements.

I assure you, you go soon call Xavi fraud for this thread na just a matter of time and Agenda, just watch

Is there anytime Busquets has not been a controller?

My problem with Busquet is off the ball escorting, not on the ball, same issue with Mikel.

I am responsible for what I write, not what you understand. Continue digging nonsense, you go soon turn to DonJ

popizaino:
You can not chicken out like that,you should be able prove what you said right when we juxtapose it with other examples until then your theory of Xavi was the one doing this and that is flawed.

I've been waiting for.yoy to juxtapose it with other examples and you are wasting my time

Juxtapose me another midfield duo where one midfielder controlled all four. That's the depth of deception Iniesther subjected the world to

donstan18:
Lol. But he’s right nh.

Eye test, Modric didn’t best Perisic.

Stats, Modric didn’t top Perisic also.

Taguchi will soon get tired of digging

Obviously that comment was my defence of Ronaldo being deserving of 2018 Balon d'Or not Modric

No matter how you like Modric reach, he will be disgraced when compared to Ronaldo as per Madrid 2018 UCL win.

The Croatia world cup standout performance belonged to Perisic and I don't see how Croatia was fantastic in that tournament by penaltying their way through the knockout stage against small teams, only to be disgraced by France in the final. Certainly not enough to snatch Balon d'Or from Ronaldo

Ronaldo simply lost that Balon d'Or because of his rape case. But I'm still happy Modric won that Balon d'Or so Madrid fans can troll Fraudniesta with it.

popizaino:
You are the one claiming it is only Xavi doing everything we should have made it more difficult for him for him to be very successful but alas it's the opposite. So tell us why Lampard who has had his responsibility shared on the pitch less successful than xavi?

I'm not claiming anything, It is a fact backed by Xavis more defensive position on the pitch, his number of passes, his assists and goals record in comparison to Iniesther

Until you give me one example of a midfield duo where one player does all 4 elements,. don't ask any further question.

popizaino:
Xavi was doing controlling possession, defending, assisting and also scoring that's why Barca and Spain was so successful.


Why was Lampard who had two more other players helping in the defending and controlling not as successful as Xavi ?


@ibime.

You have not answered which other midfield duo in history where one player does everything like Xavi does for IniEdo. I am still waiting

raumdeuter:
Modric is expected to do all these since he plays further. Which is why no one will celebrate Casemiro tackling more than Modric

But when Casemiro dey outscore Modric from DM

Will only show Modric is a fraud

Keeping it consistent like Xavi vs Iniesta

You are talking rubbish

This is how it should break down between a defensive and attacking player in a midfield duo

Defending - DM
Controlling - DM
Assisting - AM
Scoring - AM


If Modric gave Casemiro the scoring responsibility, Casemiro equally gave Modric the Controlling responsibility, so all things are equal

Now explain how Xavi took all 4 elements from Iniesta the fraud

raumdeuter:
Caseiro tackling, Casemiro Scoring while playing further back

How can Casemiro from DM be outscoring Modric in CM and AM.

That must show that Modric is a fraud

Modric controlling possession and assisting. A perfect and equal balance, 2 each

Now tell me why Xavi runs the defending and controlling, and still runs the assisting and scoring

raumdeuter:
How is scoring a tie when Casemiro played about 100 games less than Modric

Ok, at least Modric got two of the 4 - assisting and controlling

Name me one midfield duo in history where one midfielder collect all 4 apart from Xavi and Fraudniesta

popizaino:
That shakushaku is was brought about 2 Euro,1 world cup,4 UCL and that is why for 24hrs you cannot tell us why xavi without iniesta couldn't make it past inter Milan in 2010 UCL semifinals.


Let's agree it's all about the criteria you wrote above for midfielders

Lampard

Controlling - Lampard
Defending - Lampard
Assisting - Lampard
Scoring - Lampard

Why did Lampard not win the same way Xavi who had the similar metrics as him ? You know shakushaku is useless as iniesta

In any midfield combination, you know Makelele, Essien or whoever will be the higher contributor to defending and controlling while Lampard will be the higher contributor to assist and scoring.

I have never seen one midfield combination where one man does all 4 for his partner

Controlling - Xavi
Defending - Xavi
Assisting - Xavi
Scoring - Xavi

Name me one midfield combination you have seen such a thing. I will wait

Is it Okocha-Oliseh

Is it Makelele and Zidane

KDB and Rodri?

Carrick and Scholes?

This is madness

Iniesta is a thief!!!

Taguchi:
only Agenda can make Iniesta who is better than frank lampard here to be termed a fraud

There is no agenda. Like I said, I discovered Iniesta is a fraud when I looked past commentators hype, studied Barcas game and discovered Xavi literally does everything I credited to Iniesta. Iniestas top level career was only 2 years old at that stage. That is part of learning and not having fixed opinions

popizaino:
All the energy used to disparage iniesta's career stats must be expunge today.


Oya give us your take on this.

Ibime
Afrodoc.

No excuse of different era.

You have answered the question in the bolded and still asking foolish question. Players don't play outside the formation and expectation of their time

Go and bring the best AMs and wingers of Zidane era to compare - Figo, Nedved, Laudrup, Aimar, Veron, Rui Costa and co

raumdeuter:
I can also ask that did Modric make tackles more than Casemiro? Whi is Casemiro a pure DM dragging goals in less games than Modric

Can we conclude that Casemiro carried Modric in Madrid like you did for Xavi vs Iniesta on account of his goals

Do you have pap in your brains, or are you too blind to see the obvious

There are 4 elements of midfield play


Casemiro and Modric:

Defending - Casemiro
Controlling possession - Modric
Assisting - Modric
Scoring - Tie


Xavi and Iniesta:

Defending - Xavi
Controlling possession - Xavi
Assisting - Xavi
Scoring - Xavi

Only thing Iniesta brings is shakushaku which is not an element

Your Modric agenda to defend the carry along is dead on arrival.

raumdeuter:
Casemiro and Modric were both in Madrid from August 2012 to June 2022

Casemiro was a pure DM while Modric was CM/AM

Casemiro played 334 games

Modric played 436 games

Casemiro scored 31 goals

Modric scored 31 goals

One of them was definitely more defensive than the other

Now you are free to use the stats above for more agenda

Did Casemiro control games more than Modric, take more touches and make more assists?

Modric is a failed AM, that's not in doubt, hence why Van Der Vaart pursued him from AM position to the left wing after Modric couldn't produce in that position at Spurs, but that's none of my business. When they fail as AMs, they rebrand as DM or CM, following Schweinsteigers playbook.

Emaprince:


Ibime come and see your boy

https://www.nairaland.com/7476619/blaq-bonez-emulates-tinubu-answering

lol. That guy knows how to work social media

SlyfoxxDaBoss:
The work/business experience part is even more important than your academic qualifications for an MBA. So important that some people get admitted to MBA’s with no previous degrees at all. Do you not know this? Lol.

I’m talking about high level/managerial level business and leadership experience that they look for. Not the kind of experience you can get interning at your uncles company for 6 months lol pls go educate yourself more on this bro. You talk NOT like a first class graduate at all.

You have proven my point. There are MBA students as we speak with only 5 GCSEs to rub together.

In the accounting field, some people go straight from secondary school to Chartership, work hard through sweat, not brains, climb the Corporate ladder and may end up as CFO or CEO. They then cover their lack of education with an MBA

You can't compare the brainpower of such a person with a typical Cambridge undergraduate who would have been carrying first at all levels from primary school through to A Levels.

I have a friend doing MBA right now in UK that I send his coursework to one of my accounting mentee in Nigeria to do for him, and he will do it in his sleep without cracking his brains. Like I said, what you put forth is not impressive, your story is still sketchy, and graduation is still in doubt.

SlyfoxxDaBoss:
To get into an Ivy League for undergrad requires just money, a good SAT score and maybe a little connection might help. To get admitted to an MBA requires a good bachelors degree or many years of relevant professional/business experience, an essay that is practically like a thesis, strong references from top business professionals that can vouch for your abilities and various levels of interview with members of the faculty. You have to successfully attain all these before you can even be given a “conditional” offer and then if fully accepted of course you have to remember the heavy fees.

Haha. You know someone is pained when they reply to the same post like 5 times

You need 4 As (now A star) at A Levels to make it to Cambridge as an undergrad. Bear in mind, 95% of students only sit 3 A Levels, not four.

You only need a 2.1 to pay and get on an MBA

Speaking as someone who didn't get close to 4 As at A Levels but easily made a 1st class honours, I should know which is harder. My sister who got to Cambridge with 4 As at A Levels had always come first from Primary School through Secondary school, and I'm talking of the most competitive schools. Those are the type that get to Cambridge as an undergrad, not a run-of-the-mill 2.1 that can get there for MBA. It is ten times harder to get into Cambridge as an undergrad than an MBA. Rest.

It's obvious you have a 2.1 and no professional work experience, making it seem as if the work experience requirements are onerous. My colleague who went to Judge Business school in 2016 had lesser work experience than me. You probably made up your work experience from Nigerian uncles to get in, that's why you are ranting like it's a big deal.

popizaino:
Day 2


Ibime come out and tell us why Xavi all of a sudden lost the UCL semifinals without iniesta in 2010. I don't want to hear Ovrebo shit.

No need for Day 2

Do not let the sun go down on your anger - Ephesians 4:26