Kantebets: musiala was never given the chance to start with so we can’t say if his case was seriousness or not Chelsea spent 58M on pulisic when musiala could have been given a chance at least to show his seriousness
He was 16 when Pulisic was bought. Even in Bayern he played youth football for a year before making his debut
Premier League in general does not allow big teams to blood youngsters
In Germany the quality differential between Bayern, Dortmund and the rest is so much that they can afford to take more risks. In EPL, 1 point or 2 points drop can knock you out of title or top4 race
Jodera: Show me any other carry along that have either made balon d'Or top 3 or won Uefa best players award before or after Jorginho.
I'll be patiently waiting for your response
If I mention my favourite carryalong Iniesta, some will assume Jogginghoe is even 1% of the player Iniesta is, so I won't. However there are many carryalongs that have won award.
Ballzproblem2: Mendy not found guilty on one rape count when we tell idiots like trevor012. that this white girls have ulterior motivew ,he will call somebody rape apologist ,their accounts are so inconsistent that you can spot so many lies , they're only banking on the society favouring them ,they Don't give a a damn if their accusations are shit
The ones I have seen so far, he is innocent. But with so many cases, I would be surprised if one case doesn't stick
Jodera: When they say team of the tournament, I believe it's a player who performs well in their position. So I don't think Jorginho is competing with dem James, havertz, Mendy and co. And if he's one of the top performers in his position amongst all those that he competed with, why should he be denied that? Same reason can also be used for Varane.
He can't be a carry along. Uefa or FIFA never recognises carry along cos if they did, both Jorginho and Emerson will be in all those lists
Emerson only played semi and final of Euros
The same way Emerson was able to win Euros is the same way a carryalong like Jogginghoe can win UCL and Euros if his teammates are the ones rowing the boat
A bridesmaid that attends two weddings should never be celebrated more than a bride that attends only her own wedding. As things stand, we can see the bridesmaid is no better than Ruben Loftus Cheek
Jodera: You see?? So it's not merely enough to just be in the lucky team
Infact, Jorginho being in the team of the tournament of both competition gives more credence to that.
You don't take account voting patterns. Jogginghoe came third in an era after Messi and Ronaldo. His only competition was Chelsea players and English and Italian club players who don't garner votes traditionally.
Varane finished top 7 and every body that finished ahead of him had bucket load of goals and won titles that season.
Modric won UCL and dragged a lowly Croatia to WC final. Ronaldo and Messi can win on goals alone, not to mention Ronaldo won UCL and should have won if not for his rãpe case. Griezmann and Mbappe had goals and world cup to their name.
Varane should not smell top 20 on a normal day.
Varane is a scrub that was carried by both handles just like Jogginghoe. Varane also finished in teams of the tournament and other nonsense you put up for Jogginghoe. Team of the tournament is usually picked from the two finalists plus the odd player that did well up to semifinal. Therefore Jogginghoe competition in UCL team of the tournament was Gundogan. In Chelsea alone, Kante, James, Rudiger, Chilwell, Mendy, Havertz and Mount outperformed him without doubt, even those who didn't play all 90 minutes of each game like Pulisic, Thiago and Chris can be argued.
How can the bridesmaid be the bride just because she went to two weddings?
emmyluizzz: but he was rated higher than every other apart from the two you mentioned above
There are only 2 starting midfielders up for selection in the absence of Kante. He should be scoring at least 70% automatically. This is a vote where people pick players for position, it's not first past the post vote.
Jodera: If Uefa gives Militao, then it means he's up there with the elite.
I mean, that's what we use to grade Messi, Ronaldo and even recently Lewandowski. We never needed to look at any analogy or how stupid it is..... Why are we now doing it cos it is Jorginho?
Messi, Ronaldo, Lewndowski work is visible on the pitch. You can't name Militao in top 8 most important Real players in UCL and won't name him in top 8 Brazil players.
A basket can be carried along by two different sides. That's why it has two handles.
emmyluizzz: online poll of players who fans want Potter to start...people still vote massively for jorginho..I don't really know where that guy gots his jazz from
If you can interpret data, you will see only 41% want Jogginghoe to start (in the absence of any tested DM) while 87% want Kovacic to start. This is a disgraceful result for Jogginghoe. If Kante was fit, his percentage will drop to 20% while Kante and Kovacic will always remain above 80%
Okay lemme put it this way... In an SS3 class, we have someone like Kante who's best in Mathematics (UCL), Donnarumma who's best in Physics (Euros) then we have Jorginho who's the person who took First position in SS3 (overall best student) .
If they want to rate the best, who'll they call?
If Militao should mistakenly win World Cup for Brazil this year, you will see how foolish this analogy is. Football is not an individual sport like exams. Even Furo Iyenemi can be part of two winning teams in the same year if he is lucky enough
raumdeuter: So you are saying Jorginho won an award that's even bigger than club player of the year he was the best player in all UEFA competitions of all European players he was the best
He then followed it up by being 2nd runner up in Balon dor, the highest rank for a Chelsea player in the past 15yrs
Going by awards like you always told us, Jorginho is the greatest Chelsea player of the past 15yrs and has awards to show for it
No need to switch the topic.
You were told Jogginghoe only won awards because Donnaruma helped him on international level and Kante helped him on club level.
You stated your lemma that if Donnaruma was Euros POTY and carried Jogginghoe, then Jogginghoe must have carried Kante since Jogginghoe was club POTY.
And your lemma was disproven. End of discussion. Anything else you have to say is for the birds.
Airmarks original proposition which most people know that Jogginghoe was carried on both stages still stands, and your counterargument has been disproven, and infact based on a monumental goof.
airmark: You asked a question and I have answered you, good that you didn't object. Kante carried Jorginho to win Ucl and Jorginho, Man city and even Potter know it.
raumdeuter: You showed us evidence of Donnaruma winning the award to show he carried Jorginho
Now show us who won the UEFA best player in the CL to show who was carrying who
raumdeuter: Jorginho won the award for UEFA club player of the year And was 2nd runner up in balon dor 2021
Those were the awards you told us matter. Now Jorginh has won the awards now you are shifting posts. I don't need to rate Jorginho the wards you care about rate him
Jogginghoe was not UEFA CLUB player of the year. He was UEFA MENS player which encompasses all UEFA completions, both the UCL and the Euros. Kante carried him to UCL victory and Donnaruma carried him to Euros victory. He was nowhere near the best club player that was Kante.
There is no such award as CLUB player of the Year. Guffanti. That award was ended over a decade ago. If it still existed, Kante would have won it hands down.
raumdeuter: Obi is PDPs main problem. PDPs votes are in Obis hands
If Obi drops off today, Tinubu will likely throw in the towel.
So Renos strategy is to attack those eating his lunch and stealing his principals votes
He is not being strategic, he is labouring in vain because his job is to attack Obis votes in SS and SE, not Yorubaland. Like I said, the only people that will change mind from everything he has revealed so far are Yoruba people, and that favours Tinubu and disadvantages Atiku.
popizaino: Abeg is there anyone from bonny island here ? Have you tried to embark on this kind of journey before cus not even a contract of $200million will make me try this.
Theflint1: Reno misses home. He knows Peter Obi won't hound him if he wins, cause man has said he won't waste time chasing past politicians or the opposition. APCs government has put him on by-force exile, this pandering to Tinubu is to ensure he's in the man's good books if he wins.
He is not doing his work well
All his exposés will only move Yorubas on the fence to vote for Tinubu, increasing Tinubus share. It won't change one SE or SS vote which is where PDP is losing votes to Obi
raumdeuter: You showed us evidence of Donnaruma winning the award to show he carried Jorginho
Now show us who won the UEFA best player in the CL to show who was carrying who
We no need affidavit from anyone
raumdeuter: You mean Kante was not recognized by UEFA in the same award you told us differentiate carry along from the carrier
So it's fair to say Jorginho carried Chelsea to the CL since he got the award that matter
Stop your ignorant pigjeadedness. There is no UCL Player of the Tournament award.
Kante was MOTM from semifinal to final, in all 3 matches. Just keep quiet if you don't know basic facts. Holding fort for a player you don't even rate and even christened Jogginghoe in an effort to be contrarian.
budaatum: We are showing you how dumb you are Ben.
Europe is showing you that it is willing to sacrifice its strong currency and economy to help Ukraine withstand the assault from Russia, and if you knew your history, you'd know it's not the first time Europe has sacrificed its currency and economy and the life of its own people to resist tyrants like Putin.
I don't know why you are feeding into that nincompoop with loud mouth and zero economic knowledge in his brains.
The Euro is performing well, the war has little impact on its performance.
The world is in a situation where a $40 trillion American stock market bubble is selling off into the dollar, making the dollar outstrip all its rivals who have free floating currencies. Only two or three countries who manipulate their currencies to peg to the dollar are keeping pace.
Using Japanese Yen and South Korean Won as control currencies, the Euro is outperforming them this year (pics below). The currency that is running away is the dollar as all the money printing that bloated the stock market is now being sold into dollar, and that has the potential to drive most of the world into poverty as most international trade is settled in dollars. We are seeing its effects in almost every third world country
I have already explained all this below. That nincompoop with poop for brains should keep quiet and stop exposing his ignorance all the time. I've never seen someone speak with such arrogance about a topic he knows nothing about. 6 months ago, the dollar was going to crash, instead the dollar is mooning, and he is using that same dollar performance to float his Putard narrative.
Ibime: Every free floating currency is performing poorly against the dollar except those countries with foreign reserve to artificially prop against the dollar. Dollar is about the third best performing currency this year. That's because stockmarkets which have been pumped on steroids since the Quantitative Easing at the start of the pandemic are now selling those stocks into dollar. Marketcap of American companies is circa $40trln. If a quarter of that money flees, that's $10trln looking for a place to go - and a lot of it will go into dollar, some into bonds etc. Forget what you heard, Nigeria nor any third world country does not have enough foreign Reserve to keep up with the dollar. For context, that money Emefiele was spending ($3bln every 2 months) is equivalent to $18bln a year if he continued, which is equivalent to half of FGs annual budget. Of course, Foreign Reserve does not make up part of the budget but the comparison to budget gives some context.
Almost every other country is struggling right now from losing ground on the dollar. Below is the US dollar index DXY against a basket of blue chip currencies.
Ibime: Below post from Geovanni is spot on. I'm shorting Nasdaq in periods leading up to CPI print and FOMC meetings and close positions on the day of the meeting or CPI print. Only thing I'm long on is dollar and Natgas. I'm not in crypto at all.
So from they have air dominance to they strike from black sea. I am well aware of striking from black sea and also well aware that most missiles from that range get shot down, hence Kyiv is safe as houses, and Russia is slugging and being pushed back in a ground war without air support.