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dostr4:
saul getting on with team..hope he gets better even .at this rate i wont mind a cut back price to buy him

The wahala na the wages.

A player finally doing well is different to making the decision to take on his £250k salary plus transfer fee

If we do that, we might as well give Chris and Rudiger what they are asking for, which is better value

philip0906:
So it’s you who’s kicking back, while we’re NOT the ones kicking back despite the both of us making a case for different players?

You are not kicking back anything. You are coming to hate. Nobody is criticising Havertz daily when he plays the striker position.

Kickback is when someone claims Mount is horrible and Havertz is generational, and you point out Mount GA is better than Havertz.

philip0906:


You can’t hate on my boy Havertz, question his abilities while being a Pason Pount stan and not expect us to have a go at you when Pount fumbles.

Shebi na here we dey always see Havertz slander from all corners. Pount will get the smoke as long as he continues to perform poorly and we’ll continually point it out.

I haven't actually criticised Havertz since he got moved to striker position. What I do is kickback against likes of yourself who come here to hate on Mount daily that is not even competing with him while Havertz numbers have not been impressive in comparison even whilst playing as striker.

philip0906:
he had a horror show as usual and we pointed it out, that's what you tagged "hate"...While at it, we were hailing Havertz, you chose to ignore that. Ofcourse, a poor performance for you= didn't assist or score, not just running around aimlessly...

These are literally all your posts from the start of the match imbre. Show me the hailing in comparison to the hating. Then show me another match where Mount performed (which he has done more than Havertz) and show me the hailing on those days.

Months when Havertz poor = radio silence for 3 months
Days when Mount doesn't score = 5 posts hating

Havertz has given you such few days to hail that you are now in default hating mode, such that even on days Havertz scores and Mount doesn't like today, 80% of your posts are still dedicated to hating.

By the grace of God that habit will be broken to where hailing becomes the default mode.

philip0906:
Lmao! Why didn't you show my comments hailing Havertz? Or you didn't see it ? Ofcourse, like I mentioned, Pount was having a stinker and I rightly mentioned that. I will continue to call out the headless chicken runner...He never disappoints.

Till this moment, you've NEVER agreed that your boy Pount is having a horror show and you don't want us to call out the horror but will tag it "hate"...You've been everywhere defending Pount despite that boy having a poor game.

Like I said, enjoy the Havertz show...We're in for a long ride....

I don't know that Mount was poor. I know he didn't score or assist, that's all. What I posted there were all of your comments from the start of the game, showing you only came to hate on Mount as usual.

philip0906:
Stop the rigmarole man, lmao! Havertz is having a GREAT game and has been one of our best players. Pount is nowhere to be found. I don't know where you saw anything about "never recognised was the position most suited to him". Na you know who you follow talk that one.

When Pount starts playing football, we can then talk about how good he is.

You didn't come here to celebrate who is doing well but to hate on Mount. It's what you have done all season while keeping quiet about Havertz

Below are your exact 4 posts during the match before I quoted you.

That's what you do. Come every week to hate on Mount, then come every 3 months to hail Havertz when he finally has a good game. Stop talking like you came to celebrate who is doing well. How can someone with 7 goals be hated every week, and someone with 4 goals be wildly celebrated on the 4 occasions he gives you mouth?

philip0906:
On the other hand, Havertz, while playing in his more favored position, is getting the goals but you want us to be quiet about it?

Oh now, striker is his favoured position?

Why do fans of a striker have beef with a midfielder?

You should thank God Mount kicked Havertz out of midfield to give you mouth to start talking about goals scored in "favoured position" you never recognised was the position most suited to him. If you recognised the favoured position, your beef would have been with Abraham and Giroud, not Mount.

philip0906:
So why are you upset that we're hailing Havertz for having a good performance? There are 2 truths: Havertz is having a great performance, while Pount is having a horror show.

Why don't you want to agree to these facts?

You were not hailing Havertz performance but hating Mount performance. If you were consistent with that, then we would have see you doing the reverse most times this season.

Havertz having a good performance is validation for those of us who said move him upfront not for Havertz midfield brigade. And at that, 4 goals is not enough to be shouting every week for 2 years. This is a cult.

philip0906:
And your stats didn’t tell us that Pason Pount has played more games fa or you deliberately left that out? Lmao!

Enjoy the Kai Havertz show brother, we’re in for a long ride.

The stats tell us that Havertz has a goal every 280 minutes, playing as a striker, while Mount has a goal every 215 mins, and Lukaku every 235 minutes

Let the noise be as good as the performance. We are getting too much Salah level noise for Willian level output. Make una relax and let the boy put numbers on the table.

philip0906:
See the person saying I should not pick when to “hate” Pason Pount!

By that, it means stats don't lie. Good work of a forward is evident in stats, not shouting in games you pick and choose every few months. We are in March and Havertz is on 4 goals but you are hating on Mount on 7 goals and calling Havertz generational.

Even Tammy Abraham would have been shot if he had less than 10 goals by this stage of the season.

philip0906:
This is 2022…POTY is old. This is Chelsea and we talk about the now, that’s why we’re a successful team…no room for mediocrity. When Havertz was barely settling in, y’all questioned why we bought him and his qualities. He’s proving that he’s the real deal and doing so on an ongoing basis but you want us to leave calling out the headless chicken runner because of trophy he won in 1942? Abegi

Nonsense and ingredients. When Mount scored hattrick against Norwich, you said it's only Norwich. Now it's only Burnley, you want us to jump off the roof.

Havertz was horrible as a midfielder. When we said Havertz looks OK as a striker, we were told he was a midfielder. Now you want us to go crazy because he's scored his 4th EPL goal of the season. Bro hasn't even scored 1/3rd of the target I set him to match Tammy Abrahams output when he was moved upfront last season. Let him do his work and stop setting him up. We are supporting him but as per midfield work, Mount has buried him already. The POTY is less than 7 months old and is in the record books.

popizaino:
Really?

Pretty sure. Either Norwich game, or even Juve game in UCL

zeusis:
When was the last time we scored 4 pl goals in a game?

Last time James played

philip0906:
Everyone delivering upfront except Ofcourse, Pason Pount.

Such a shame they all let him lead them in scoring charts and win POTY. Stop picking and choosing when to hate

Chelsea fans singing cheerio as Burnley fans leave the stadium

Emaprince:
How come I dont get this line.

Cc
Ibime

Hensben said Havertz is mentally strong with a cold face,.na him Oga Dayo and boys start to laugh am

izzou:
[color=royalblue]Stray bullet must be avoided at all costs.

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This one off me

Skimpledawg should come and bind every foul spirit that has taken over this thread.

Beorn:
LMAO.

I didn't even want to interfere in the vawulence going on, but your sudden "u-turn" has got me braying laughter in my room. I'm sure you must have forgotten why I'm laughing but let me refresh your memory with your post to me few weeks ago.



I kept quiet that day because I was waiting for the reality to hit you like a deer caught in a headlight because I was damn sure that it would.

E shock me sha

Bro has provided some mitigations but that his Android17 moniker only became active in late 2020 long after Elruditor japa, could be an alternate moniker

Bro even carry basketball for head like Elruditor. I have also never seen a grown Nigerian Man City fan who arrived as a City fan without previous association with Pep so even the Barca denying is still suspect, and Elruditor was trending more toward City and is the sort of personality that would japa when things went left at Barca

Too many similarities sha but e no concern me. Airmark and Skimpledawg can take up the investigation as the injured creditors.

Violence shall never end

Unlimited22:
Good evening Sir. Are you trying to say that Donj is mentally strong, with cold face?

Android22:
My original account is Android17. Find out if that account was registered longer than 6 or 7 years ago. I have interacted with a Chelsea fan outside of this thread in a way that when people have accused me of being Elruditor, Coogar, terrorist apologist etc, the person will laugh because he knows all those things are funny. For the record, I am not a Barcelona fan and I have never been one. I don't think across political lines as well. I'll agree with Trump on some issues and still accuse him of unpardonable sins on others. Those who know my stance on certain issues on other threads will know exactly what I mean. I barely ever even discuss Pep Guardiola. He is the current manager of the club I support so at times people's criticism of him will affect their opinion of my club. Continue with the labeling. I am enjoying it.

Alright bro

Emaprince:
Yeah..I know.

But the fact that Nihilistjnr made that post with Jack in 2013..and Don j was able to screenshot it before it was deactivated( which I believe was long ago)..at a time their back and forth haven't started ...

Its like Vector making a diss track against mode nine even when there was no beef. But he was cooking incase an unexpected beef come up.

If DonJ carry you for mind, your own done finish

Android22:
k. So you are either now wrong or right but slower than everyone else.

Yes I was slow to catch up cos at that time I'd only seen a handful of your post on Chelsea thread. I don't go in other threads. You gave yourself away by referring to argument I had with Nihilistjnr maybe 6 or 7 years ago because Nihilist and I have been cordial for years and even relate offline so you must be an oldie

Same writing style and use of verbage, check
Memory of things that happened before you registered, check
Barca fan, check
City fan, check
Pep balls in mouth, check
Trump balls in mouth, check

Elruditor, go and pay your debt.

Android22:
Labeling again. I thought you argued here that I was not Elruditor but now that I have exposed your ignorance on this issue, I have become the same Elruditor?

I have now seen enough to corroborate what everyone else suspected. Go and pay your debt.

Emaprince:
Wait a min...

Don js screenshot has Jack on it..while that of Nihilistjnr has NOBODY.

Meaning the account was deactivated.

Did don j screen shot it far back..Long before Nihilistjnr deactivated it.

Did he see the future? Knowing that a day like this will come to unleash it?

This is LION vs HYENA type shi

Mortal enemies.

The beef has been going on a long time.

Android22:
Again with the labeling because you cannot refute facts.

That is why I told you to stay within your limited grasp of things. Only an activist and politically charged military personnel will seek options outside of his chain of command because his amebo was not being handled. You are now admitting he went outside of his chain of command yet continue to call me names. Like Scheller like Vindman, like Milley. All 3 broke chain of command but only 1 was rightly punished for it.

This is a low blow and do you what makes it funny? I have always had respect for you because for someone with clear mental problems as Nihilist has told you before, you sustain enough cognition to be understood. Why you would then decide to use that one thing that has troubled you from your youth to insult someone else is certainly low. But I'll still maintain my decorum and be kind to slow people. Take your meds Ibime.

Elruditor, go and pay your debt. What business does someone who has problem paying N20k debt have with carrying Trump matter in America for head. Is that not mental illness? Please Sir, I want to avoid discussing politics with people of a Trumpanzee world view on Chelsea thread. Kindly respect that. Thanks.

Android22:
It is possible to say "I am not very knowledgeable on this issue" and then rest. You must not use every opportunity to regurgitate the same mainstream talking points and think you have the slightest clue about what is actually going on. See your Vindman response for e.g, I just did not want to address where you goofed because I seek to engage not to embarrass but the fact that you keep churning out the same libtard playbook narrative means I have to show you why I said you are making stuff up and essentially talking nonsense while at it.

First, Vindman's chain of command ends with the C-in-C. What that means is, Vindman's talk (if he had followed due process) would have ended up on the president's desk. You are right that that president was Trump, who may have given an instruction that he STFU but how many military men (even in Nigeria) have seen some perceived wrong done to someone else but had to shut up because their direct boss told them to - let alone your C-in-C?

Which leads to my next point, Vindman did not only break his chain of command, he did so by going to Democrats both outside of the white house and the military. He went to Erica Ciaramella who worked for Adam Schiff who is a sworn enemy of Trump and the man who started the now failed impeachment proceedings. Again, proving that Vindman did not whistleblow out of integrity but out of his own political leaning and agenda and he provided highly classified info to individuals who did not have the clearance to listen to that information.

Third, Vindman's job as the NSC was to listen to the president's call on Ukraine and where necessary give advice since he was fully knowledgeable on the language and some of their military strategy whilst also translating properly whatever the Ukrainians had to say to the US, period. It was not his duty to insist that the president followed his counsel. Vindman got butthurt because he gave counsel that his C-in-C did not accept, so in retaliation, he decided to report on a part of the phone call where he gave his own interpretation of what the president said. Time proved him to be a liar by the way.

Fourth, Vindman is no longer in the service. Any wonder why he retired? He did so because he had broken a military 'bro code' and he knew nobody within the military was ever going to take him seriously so he had to retire. If he had the professional ethics and integrity that libtards think he had, he should have resigned as soon as he heard something he felt he needed to report. Then, he would have been free to do what he did - whether right or wrong - but he did not. Most of the veterans who spoke on him called him a Blue Falcon (go figure) and many said he was always letting his politics get in the way of his duty as a service man.

I hope you can see how this connects to Scheller as well. Both soldiers broke chain of command by reporting outside of the military-recognized chain of command even for whistleblowing. However, one of them was praised by the media and democrats alike (there is no difference between the 2) while the other was court-martialed for breaking chain of command and undermining leadership. And if you even pretend to be rational and able to analyze information, you would have seen that it is the same hypocrisy/double standard that the OP was referring to when I chimed in.

Thomas Sowell said it is stupid to assume you can give a rational opinion on anything when all you know is from one side of the story and from the side that confirms your bias. He was right. You clearly did not know anything about Vindman but hurriedly researched him from the mainstream outlets and ventured into spewing the same nonsense they so glibly did about 3 years ago when he was making the news. Similar to the way you assumed Trump defended Putin even when 2 things are sure as day. 1 is that Putin refused to recognize the separatists for all of Trump's tenure as president of the US and 2. That Trump praised Putin's strategy and not his intention. Now I expect you to just type out more conjecture from your head to rebut things you clearly know nothing about. I'll spare you of an unnecessarily long post in demolishing the Biden/Afghan-Putin/Donbass part. Hopefully someone else takes you up on it.

Like I said from the start, if you are a Trumpanzee which you clearly are, identify yourself so I can avoid discussing with someone with a mental imbalance.

Vindman reported the matter to National Security Council which is in his chain of command, and when it wasn't addressed, he reported it to a CIA agent who contacted Congress to investigate. These are legitimate means of raising a complaint, just like a Police Officer may report his force to the FBI or you can report to an Ombudsman if your company does not take your HR complaint seriously. He didn't go on Facebook live naming his superiors and call for a revolution.

At this point, I end discussion because I don't want to discuss with a Trumpanzee or engage with mental illness on Chelsea thread. There is politics section if I want to do that. Like I said, you are right and Putin is just another normal Head of State.

kong200:
It's funny that separatists in Donbass are compared to ISWAP and Boko Haram therefore it's justified to kill over 14,000 of them simply because they want out of Ukraine but same people won't justify Buhari for killing IPOB for wanting out of Nigeria.

Zelensky has not killed 14,000 seperatists in Donbass. 14,000 people in total on both sides have died during a civil war started by seperatists that has been ongoing since 2014. Big difference.

I did not know that seperatist combatants who use surface to air missiles against the state and shoot down aeroplanes are peaceful IPOB protestors. Ukraine should have sent them bread and water instead of Ukrainian army while they take over Ukrainian territory by use of force. It's a war, not a killing of peaceful protesters. Every country has the right to protect it's territorial integrity whether it's Ukraine fighting seperatists, Nigeria fighting Boko Haram or Ghana fighting a seperatist group of Mother Theresas. The religious affiliation of the seperatists is not important, what is important is International law which allows a country the right to secure it's territorial integrity.

Android22:
Imagine a Lt Colonel reporting his Commander in Chief of all Armed Forces and someone is saying due process. Who do you report your commander in chief to? Fact is, it is not even difficult for anyone to know why Vindman or Milley come into the picture. They essentially did the same thing Scheller was accused of doing - undermining leadership not the imaginative nonsense you have up there.

Every company or organisation have due process for reporting wrongdoing of anyone within that company.

Next time you notice wrongdoing in your workplace, you have a choice to follow your companies internal process for reporting it or you can go on Facebook live and broadcast it. I assure you one of those methods will get you sacked while the other one will get your complaints heard at the very least. Vindman is still an employee of the military due to the fact he followed due process, despite reporting Trump who normally won't hesitate to sack people at the drop of a hat. An ïdiot like you would equate the two scenarios under the umbrella of "undermining your boss".

Android22:
But I know your angle and it is weak; where you fail to control how someone else thinks so you try to control how others think of said person.

Remember my first response to your post - "you sound like a Trumpanzee". That's not me attacking your personality. That was simply me checking if you have a mental instability before I address anything in your post. I would have simply ended the conversation there if you responded in the affirmative.

Your attempt to normalise Putin by equating an army officer who reported wrongdoing via the proper channels with another one who went on Facebook live, by unsubstantiated claims that Zelensky is the same as Putin for "killing people" when Ukraine has been fighting a civil war, or by equating Putin to Biden trying to drone an ISIS member who just organised a suicide bombing and unfortunately droning the wrong target of civilians, plus your deeper dive into Trumpanzee talking points of Vindman and co shows that it is my mistake for trying to discuss with someone with mental instability. Let's just agree that you are right and Putin is a genius for invading Ukraine as your dear orange leader commanded you to believe.

Android22:
Good. So explain how both Alexander Vindman and General Milley were not court martialled for doing worse, if as you claim, no army will keep such loose lipped men.

What did they do and how does it relate to this, or deserve a court martial?

Vimdman followed due process and reported Trump through the correct whistleblowing channels provided by the military. He didn't go on Facebook live and call out his generals to civilians on social media. He reported up his chain of command.

It's best you stick to the facts of your original post and whether your conclusions were correct or not, than opening up new debates along your political ideology. I have little patience for Trumpanzees and don't want to be responding to new Trumpanzee talking points with each post please.

Android22:
Source: Trust me bro.

Source: Facts

No army will keep such a loose lipped man who can't guard his tongue and will call out his superiors by name. He is lucky he didn't face court martial. One day you will grow up and learn how the World works.