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raumdeuter:
If Taraba can provide similar earning potentials then yes its better. You cannot be in Ajegunle face me I face you where 30people queue to use the same bathroom everyday and be bragging about private jets belonging to Dangote and Otedola in Banana Island and laughing at someone in Taraba with a car and a house

Yet Texas or Alabama does not provide similar earning potential as California as shown by the median household income.

The only things more expensive in California are Property related costs. Your local Walmart is still selling everything the same price in both Cities. Any extra you spend on your house in California is just seen as growing your wealth (assets) in comparison to Texas.

A nigga with a house in Surulere will sell that house and go buy mansion in GRA in Taraba when he is ready. Who's laughing now?

Your argument is not recognised in any economic circles. It can be summarised by Etienne T Boy song - "I don taya, I don taya, I dey go back to my village"


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBsdNqVXTZ8

raumdeuter:
While the value of the asset matter what you are able to do with the asset matters more. In NewYork, You will have a $2M mortgage but no yard for your kids to play, Downstairs people are selling meth, rats are running round your kitchen to share bathrooms with another family,

I have been in some condos in NYC where I cannot stand up straight because they were old buildings from the 1920s and the ceiling is about 6ft tall, renovated multiple times. I have been in flats where the kids cannot jump, heck some places if you are fvccking, your next door neighbor can hear

A regular person cares more about what value they get out of their asset. What is the value of the 2M dollar house to you when you cannot even take a shitt and spread legs while reading newspaper

It does not matter. That's what matters to you. To a young person, that may be more enjoyable than living on a ranch in Idaho. No economist would rank you more prosperous for living on the ranch in Idaho. Assets are transferrable and have fixed value.

Raumdeuter, is not the summary of your argument that Taraba is better than Lagos?

Laurene:
It seems like the criteria to become a democrat nowadays is to separate your brain from the body.

I'm mesmerized by their egregious behavior. Is there any sane liberal left?

Separating your brain from your body is claiming only 43k votes separated Trump from Biden, then come back to say you were referring to Electoral College votes (and still be wrong)

raumdeuter:
Is this 2M flat readily available/gettable to people on your level? Or just pipe dreaming. What use is it to Ibime ramdeuter and their friends who cannot within a reasonable income of the general populace be dreaming of and bragging about what is available to Trumps, Abramovic and Prince of Saudi

Its almost like saying there are more private gulfstream jets in Manhattan vs in Atlanta Georgia when a regular income American whether in ATL or NYC cannot afford it

The Median Household income solves all that.

I could afford a house in London but it won't be in the prime area where my kids would go to great schools and have enough living and garden space. It does not matter. Whoever lives there is still economically equal to me.

None of these are economic arguments.

We are back to "Village life is cheaper than City life" or "N200k in Umudike is better than $100k in Yankee" argument. It is a subjective argument, not an economic one.

To a young person, living in a flat in the City may be more enjoyable than living in a mansion in the village. Subjectivity goes both ways, what matters is the value of the asset.

raumdeuter:
There are standards everywhere in the world its homelessness ability to feed yourself and your family, clothes.

If you are able to get a house for 200 Naira, you are better than someone who cannot get a house with 20,000 and has to sleep on the street

Its where you will see people who are living in projects all their lives, where they shitt inside elevator. Yet think they are living better than those who own their own homes, can feed themselves. All those Private jets, Ferraris, Yatch have nothing to do with the common man on the street. Any middle class bragging about these when he is barely existing is a foool

When you say homelessness in the Western context, what you really mean is beggers/drug addicts because Western society provides accomodation for the homeless (like the projects you mentioned up there)

In the UK, drug addicts from Arbroath in Scotland get the train to go live homeless on the Streets of London because London traffic is wealthy enough to feed their addiction. Same reason Houston will have more homeless than a random village in Texas. It's a symptom of success

raumdeuter:
In the UK where you live, High end London is for the ultra rich who are Arab Princes, African Politicians, and Billionaires from Europe like Abramovic, the regular UK folks living in London are probably suffering which is why a middle class UK man will rather move to Manchester and Birmingham

Quality of life or quality of accommodation is a subjective view, not an economic argument. Even the Mayor of Manchester will slap you if you claim his people are doing economically better than Londoners.

I am here just South of Manchester in a detached house with a garden my kids and their friends can play football in does not make me more economically empowered than a guy in a £2m flat in London without a garden.

His flat still has more economic value than my house if he decides to take it to any market in the world. And the minute he decides to move to Manchester and sell his asset in London, he will be next door neighbours with footballers in a mansion. He is economically doing better than me, whichever way you argue it

raumdeuter:
You are the one getting it wrong following all these metrics New York California like London are global centers where billionaires from all over the world come to live and invest their money. What happens between the Sheikhs, Trumps, Bloombergs, Bezos, Gates etc have little effect on the lifestyle of regular people on the street. What an average person cares about is to feed his family, and buy things he needs

Stop right there. That's where Median Household income comes in

Bring those stats before you go any further.

These are standard economic indices used to measure these things. First thing any economist will look for. You are arguing with someone who minored in Economics, I didn't just pluck those indices from my ãrse.

I'm sure you know the difference between Median and mean which factors in for all your talk about billionaires

Homelessness is neither here nor there. People on drugs don't go to pig farms in Mississippi to beg for money, they go to New York where there is enough passing wealthy traffic to drop coins in their cup to feed their habit. They may even be from Mississippi but travel to New York where their market will move. Almajiri will not go to your village to beg, he will go to Lagos. It's a symptom of success.

iamoyindamola:
No na, Taliban bombed 9/11 America arrested alot of them since they have gotten Osama the right thing is to free the prisoners and also leave their country

Nothing like that. America got tired and took softly approach because Taliban was a pain in their neck

benalvino3:
you are still desperately talking about this. keep trying, you will make a point.

Mr Benalvino - 'Red States have better economies due to their policies"

Idiocy on marble

benalvino3:
I said when you have good policies, you have a good economy and the red states are better.

ShadowWalker00:
But when Nigerians hear computer science what comes to their mind is coding , same way they think Mech. eng is all about motor, and spare parts.

Perception and branding is everything bro. Even I will confuse it with your regular IT guy.

iamoyindamola:
Talking of no nonsense government, by the way Egypt is more Islamic country than naija will ever be. The clowns that govern us granted terrorists here amnesty to walk around freely and threaten to stab fellow civilians to death because they stopped them from killing cows.


https://www.nairaland.com/6867330/egyptian-court-sentences-22-jihadists

Cc izzou

Egypt is still at war with their Jihadists. Nigeria is in surrender mode after being flogged left, right and centre. I'm sure if Nigeria was on top in the war, any Boko Haram or bandit will be hung on sight. How you deal with your enemies depends on the balance of power. See how America went from bombing Taliban to negotiating with them and releasing their prisoners.

ShadowWalker00:
Yeah I have gained admission into Ui to study Computer science, I just dey wait for resumption.

I am 17 but age is just a number , Maths as always being my best subject so it is not hard .

You for try add that Computer Science with Maths if possible.

Maths and Computer Science lets people know your level, so employers can differentiate you from your typical run of the mill student who diversified into IT because of the unemployment situation in the country.

PrideofLincoln1:
Ibime, i worked in Charleston, West Virginia about 12 years ago for two months flying home to see my family every weekend and i couldn't believe the kind of poverty there. Been to several States in the Deep South and please don't get me started. My Brother lives in a beautiful city outside of Atlanta called Marietta and wifey and i are spending our Thanksgiving weekend there. There are parts of the South that's doung well but the ones that are bad are overwhelming Republican. Let me leave you with this, the poorer the State, the more Republican they become.

Raumdeuter has suckered Benalvino3 into believing GOP states are doing well. I've known Raumdeuter for 14 years on this forum. He is known to take one piece of anecdotal evidence and repeat it it till it becomes fact to uninformed observers. I don't blame him for being proud of his home state, but how Benalvino3 jumped out the window to claim Red States are performing better shows he shouldn't be allowed out of Port-Harcourt to discuss with cosmopolitan people. Any man and his dog knows that the Red States of the South are the most poverty-stricken in the country. If you even see a Red State doing well, it's because they found oil, not because they developed human capacity.

ShadowWalker00:
See my Waec result in 2019, Waec is not the hardest English exam out there.

But atleast I pass average, and it is at my first sitting in ss3 class.

You should have warned us before that we are discussing with a boy who is yet to warm his cockles


Your Maths and Further Maths result is impressive though

PrideofLincoln1:
9 out of the poorest States in America are in the Appalachia and Deep South and that's the strong hold of Republican support.

See them, the strongest GOP states where they win 90% of the vote. Talk about vow of poverty.

When you like free things (zero tax, free labour (salvery)), God will punish you with poverty

benalvino3:
Tax is not the only thing you saw.

The other stuff (high property prices and cost of living) is the result of success. Lagos will always be more expensive than Ogun. Who can't afford it is free to move. They get replaced by rich Oligarchs and Arabs who can. Same as London

raumdeuter:
Per your image, So North Dakota, Montana even South Dakota even grew more than neighboring Blue Minnesota? Must be something in the water in blue states thats making people avoid them

Oil prices and Osmosis

benalvino3:
The primary reason why California businesses are leaving is economics, plain and simple. California is too expensive, too regulated, and too heavily taxed, both for companies and for the workers they hire.

Red States have been making this claim for the last 50 years and still getting flogged. Low taxes have always been a bedrock of Conservative policy, long before a neophyte like you started following politics.

raumdeuter:
How many people move from Jos to Rivers vs the reverse? Zamfara and Taraba will likely be the cheapest states, why are people not leaving Rivers to Taraba since the cost of living is cheaper there

So since North Dakota is outperforming Texas in GDP, why are people not moving there?

You can deceive yourself with numbers but human movement will always tell the truth, Human like every animal move from suffering to prosperity.

North Dakota population growth rate is neck and neck with Texas. Unlike Texas where half the population growth must be due to Hispanics crossing the border to stay with their aburos, those going to North Dakota must be purely economic

benalvino3:
Mumu, That is not what we use to rate better cities. again, if California is better because of GDP why are companies and people moving away from California?.

Texas overtook Brazil because of Investment, and when the investment comes the GPD grows. it is not because of GDP they overtook Brazil fool; it is because of investment. the same way China overtook the US. now will you say China is a better country than the US because of GDP? it is only you that can mumu like this.

Stop making noise and exposing your stüpidity.

Who told you California has not been growing it's economy at an equal rate to Texas? At the same time Texas was overtaking Brazil, California has been overtaking several countries.

Their GDP growth rate is similar, and you'll see the same for most American States. First picture is California, second picture is Texas. Both have tripled their economy in the last 25 years. I know you cannot look at graphs and easily assess information

raumdeuter:
So why are people not moving from Rivers to Taraba since Taraba is cheaper? Why are people not flocking to North Dakota since its cheaper?

I have a friend in Rivers who moved his family to Jos

North Dakota is Red State and richer than Texas per capita. That's internal GOP conversation. North Dakota corporate taxes are pretty low, not zero like Texas but still outperforming Texas per Capita. When Texas overtakes North Dakota in GDP per Capita, we can have this conversation.

By then Texas will be Blue if they continue giving free land and zero taxes to Progressives. Replacement theory

benalvino3:
Texas just overtake brazil to be the 9th biggest economy in the world. bigger than Canada, California is the 5th in the world I guess. So as it stands before tend to go to places that benefit them overall... Unlike you shouting GDP GDP.

If you did not know why Texas overtook Brazil, its because it's GDP overtook Brazil's GDP. That's why I'm shouting GDP, because that's how you measure economies, stüpid!

benalvino3:
ibime, sink this into your head


These businesses are predictably moving to states with lower costs, fewer regulations, lower taxes, and a higher quality of life for their workers, in which families pay far less for a home.

Red States have had these talking points for decades and still getting whitewashed.

benalvino3:
You still they mumu and they change goal post as you go. How was China before it became the No. 1 or 2 largest economy? did it start from manufacturing companies heading there right? you are seeing the same thing and you still they Shout GPD.

The mumu say anything I am talking about is subjective... Ibime ignore all the quotes out from the post he replied to because they showed some hard facts with a link. the Idiot is just here to show off and nothing more.

the olodo who says Obama is a proud boy with his epileptic arguments is here again to show us how dumb he is. This time it is GPD.

mumu, people are not competing for anything. the policies are making the companies and people leave. even as Tesla, HP, etc. are saying the policies of the states are bad for business you are saying otherwise.

Stop making noise. Below is the result of the last 50 years of Blue policies vs Red policies.

Come back to me in 20 years and we will see how Texas compares. Someone has been whitewashing you 10-0 since kick-off, you woke up to raise shoulder today because you won a corner in the dying minute of the match

Tomorrow your red states people will spread conspiracies about how Bill Gates is spending money to control you, then wonder why he is investing his money with more rational people.

ShadowWalker00:
No one would have bothered if he used the words: “there’s also the little matter of AFCON tournament in January”.

But instead, he said there’s a “little tournament” which completely means something different.

but some say nah sacarsm, another say nah idiom .

Same thing. I'm in good health, just a little cancer disturbing me

BlueRayDick:
That is how u know people who didn't pass English Language at first sitting in WASSCE. To them every sentence is interpreted as per its literal meaning.

That was how I once chastised someone on this forum for forcing his opinion about his "cult-hero" on others only for him to reply me, " how do you know my hero is a cultist, mumu?"

ShadowWalker00:
"There is a little tournament going on in Africa in January" is an idiom. Allahu Akboom!!!!

Nice one sir.

If you read the statement, you will instantly recognise the idiom

Ojora Babatunde of OJB Sports needs to brush up on his knowledge of English sayings. Guy made his organisation look like Uncle JB sports with his interpretation

benalvino3:
GDP is not a reason why a state is better oga.
what I was talking about was mainly about policies, I don't know why you are just trying to show off.
The Median Household income in Cali is 75k and in Texas, it is 65k so?



Musk, who is the CEO of Tesla is well aware of the complaints made by their workers.






None of them are saying GDP is the reason why they are moving. They are moving because suddenly, Texas looks like a good area for business.

California Business Headquarters Now Leaving Twice As Fast, With No End In Sight
https://www.hoover.org/research/california-business-headquarters-now-leaving-twice-fast-no-end-sight


In this part, Olodo will be shouting median house income, he is not asking himself about the cost of living.




the Quote below is what makes a state better but the olodo I am talking to will climb mount Kilimanjaro and be shouting GDP

Stop making noise. The stats I gave you are what is used to judge which entities are doing better economically.

Anything else you are talking about is subjective, and no different to claiming a N200k per month life in Umudike is better than a $100k per annum life in the West.

You just confirmed with Tesla quote that it is normal for Businesses to seek cheaper land, pay lower wages and seek lower living costs for their employees. There is no way Lagos will be popping and Ogun won't benefit from some osmosis of people or companies who can no longer afford Lagos or are looking for cheaper costs.

Same reason people move from the City to the village, same reason companies move from London to Manchester, from Monaco to Nice, or Singapore to Kuala Lumpur, or failed Westerners move from UK to Umudike.

All that means is California has been highly successful to the point of becoming an International marketplace. When people compete for something, price goes up, whether land or property. A Californian will still be able to move to Texas or Alabama and live like a King there from the wealth he was able to accumulate in California. It is not up to California to lower their land and property prices by force like some communist regime. People are still rushing them. Even all your Nigerian unicorns are headquartered in California from Flutterwave et al.

It's a good thing anyway to bring more enlightenment and progressive people to Texas.

Next time you are arguing with educated people, bring the correct economic indices, simple.

Singapore1:
i think trump wanted to say "there is matter of little tournament" which is suppose to be an idioms . but he failed

It's simply an idiom used to make light of a worrisome situation like you rightly assessed

Like saying "I'm in good health, apart from the little matter of of my cancer diagnosis"

MorataFC:
Like Micheal Obi to Mikel Obi

Na NFF spoil that one name

HewlettPackard:
There's nothing spectacular about this PSG. I'll gladly take them.

You may be right but somehow I feel I our back 3 has not been tested against a front 3 of that calibre before and it may be more complicated than you think