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donjazet:
This is quite shameful and a new low even for you.

Just to denigrate jorginho, you had to scour the entire internet to find the only aberration to to jorginho's rating.
Well, below is the top 5 football sites that we all know for football showing jorginho as one of our highest performers today.
You can only hate and hate, jorginho will keep doing his talking on the pitch.
Tuchel is not a fool to keep trusting and relying on jorginho every match day.

This is sky sports, whoscored, dailymail, sofascored, etc all giving jorginho high scores. Not an out of touch fan arguing against them.

Whoscored and Sofa are stats driven. Show me one "seasoned football analyst" website that has him in our top 5 players.

What I showed you was BBC. The Daily Mail you brought had him only bettering Pulisic, Chilwell and Ziyech

Show me other seasoned analysts, let's corroborate your false statements.

Learn the difference between "seasoned football analysts" and stats website next time before typing what you said below.

donjazet:
Can you tell be why seasoned football analysts would rate jorginho very high and an out of date average fan would counteract them?

A stats website only counts your number of passes, goals, key passes, tackles etc and gives a weighting to each one to produce your final score. If I enter that pitch and make a hundred passes to Mendy, I will have the highest score. However, based on stats websites, Jorginho is our worst regular starter this season as I have proven in our bet.

For this particular game, I ceded that he will score high on stats websites due his volume of useless 5 yard passes, but he will rate low on any eye test rating. You are yet to prove me wrong and don't even know the difference or what we are discussing.

donjazet:
Can you tell be why seasoned football analysts would rate jorginho very high and an out of date average fan would counteract them?

Another falsehood.

Those are OPTA stats rating like I said - a compilation of stats and he scored points as an aggregation of his 5 yard passes. Same method used to grade bonus points in FPL.

The seasoned analysts (eye test) had Jorginho as our worst player except Pulisic like I said. Even RLC who played few minutes scored higher.

donjazet:
Ibime , one simple question, can you explain or justify this high rating for jorginho today??

Read and learn how OPTA stats are put together.

Ibime:
Today is the first time Jorginho has made the most passes in the team and that's simply due to Juventus formation which allowed him to be spare man and make 5 yard passes to score points on the OPTA system. .

That has not been the case all season as he is outpossessed every game by our defenders and scores low on OPTA as you saw, having the lowest score of all our regulars.


Meanwhile I need you to recant and apologise for your lie that Jorginho is possession master and that we are outpossessing teams because of him. This won't be the first time you have repeated that lie and been corrected several times, going back to last season. Tuchel does not make use of, nor care for Jorginho possession. We only became successful by sidelining Jorginhos possession game.

Griffon:
Actually started from the bench for JT’s Kings FC.

Good stuff. Guy suppose done japa by now sha. I hope that's getting close

BykeLaByke:
I just see Barca beating them... prolly by 1nil or something.

Bayern haven't been exceptionally great this season.

People have Flick's Bayern in their heads when they think of that fixture but they are far from that at the moment.

If Stegen also plays a solid game that day...they are definitely getting beat.

Una done comot jare

Keep consoling yourself

Griffon:
JT and kid bro.

Nice one. Was he part of NPL 11?

donjazet:
Baba, leave all these shalaye. Do you think that it is magic that we are out possessing every single team this season bar man city??
I have told you that your sense of football has not evolved to the modern game.
Players like jorginho, busquet, rodri are essential to any team that is keen on possession? Jorginho excels in recycling and distribution of the ball from the pivot, not necessarily for tackles, ball clearance or other roles for a traditional defensive midfielders.
Modern coaches believe in defending by actually doing less defending. Ie, emphasis on possession and fast counter-presses.

Oga you are not better than top attacking coaches like tuchel, guardiola or Sarri who highly value jorginho.
The world of football has now recognized this player, nominating and winning the highest accolades. Our very own vice captain! Who the hell are you?

Outpossessing who? We are not a possession based team, and if we do, it's definitely not due to Jorginho. The stats are known. Go and update your software

Today is the first time Jorginho has made the most passes in the team and that's simply due to Juventus formation which allowed him to be spare man and make 5 yard passes to score points on the OPTA system. Eye test, he was the least of our players today except Pulisic. I hope you will accept those score sites when they show Jorginho as our lowest rated player of the season which they showed you couple of days ago.

Possession keepers are known. Jorginho is no26 for possession this season despite playing every game. Audio possession from the mouth of donjazet. Stop spreading falsehoods.

Looks like Barca won't make it if Benfica beat Kyiv which is highly possible

hensben:
Most English players are not technical, even when they become good they easily get comfortable and don’t improve their game.

English football has changed. Bundesliga is begging for any English player they can get and they are all shining there from Reiss Nelson to Lookman to Smith-Rowe to Jonjoe Kenny. We have not even come to Sancho or Bellingham. Go and check that English winger Noni Madueke in PSV sef and let me know

If mid-level English boys are conquering a technical league like Bundesliga, you may want to update your software on English players. There is reason Cobham has been winning UEFA youth UCL back to back to back. English have the best youth players with France right now, simple.

donjazet:
Ibime!!! Do you see this? You know nothing about jorginho's role in our team. The boy keeps shaming you.
The Hallmark of a man is knowing when to accept defeat, to fight another day.
You consistently denigrate our vice captain who has played an instrumental role in keeping us where we are.

So you know more than tuchel who is always starting him? Na wa for you.

Story for the Gods

Juventus was in their own half all game, no pressure on Jorginho and no direct opponent in midfield.

His only role today was receiving the ball in 10 yards of space everytime and giving it to the closest man.

Even Skimpledawg could have played that role tonight

At no time was he involved in forcing players to commit, removing players from the game or within 5 yards of any Juventus player, like James, Rudiger, Chalobah, Chilwell, Kante and RLC were doing all night

With all that space and no pressure, he should have been dropping multiple passes over the top like Pirlo.

Man did nothing. All those points are simply for pass completion to the next man 5 yards away from him. That's how those sites score games.

donstan18:
Comparing Christensen and Chalobah suppose be graphic content.

Why?

I don't know about defending just yet, but Chalobah technique on the ball is way superior to Chris.

I went and watched this video of Chalobah midfield performances at Lorient when I saw him in our preseason. Man played and looked like a midfielder.

When Chris plays midfield for Denmark, his technique still looks like a defender playing midfield, he just does the basics and never tries to dribble or ride players on his back with turns, whereas Chalobah ticks all the minimum technique boxes for a midfielder


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xcuOmqLBjU

raumdeuter:
By 32 Vidic already left Man Utd and by 35 retired from football completely. Boateng at 32 was still playing CL finals. Not every player has to blackmail clubs into giving them contract extensions like Terry

Vidic left Man Utd at 33. He won league at 32.

Not like Boateng who you told us was finished by 29 and has been begged to leave by Hoeness since that age. Only weakness of farmers league allowed them to continue carrying him past that 29 you told us he was finished.

jedisco:
Egld has done well... Funny enough, when it broke ATH of 200 shortly after kava, I opted to go with kava which has been stalling... I'm not so familiar with EGLDs blockchain but such investment will help prices.... 250 would have been the cutoff for me though.

Those were the exact same investments in liquidity SOL and AVAX made before they started their run. Na why I no think twice

Almajirihunter:
Nothing from our Academy is ever good enough

Correction, nothing English is good enough

raumdeuter:
Why was Vidic out of top level defending by his early 30s? Why was he not playing till 40 like Terry

Vidic played at the top till 32 and won individual awards till 30.

Unlike Carryalong that claim to have hung boots at 27

Cobham flogged Juventus today

We done announce ourselves for UCL today.

See that James pass

Donjazet, who did Garba Lawal outshine today?

hensben:
Chalobah good with ball for leg, he must have play midfield role in academy.

He started as a CB and converted to midfield 3 years ago, same as his senior brother. He also played occasionally in midfield in the academy.

He has played his whole professional career as a midfielder at Huddersfield, Ipswich and L'Orient.

I said it during preseason why I think he has the technique for the back 3

The way Ziyech is shining in UCL, somebody should notice him and give us decent money

raumdeuter:
When was Vidics peak and when did he leave top flight football? Should we compare him to Evans and Ashley Young then? When you achieve in your youth like Ronaldo Lima, you wont have to be slaving into your 40s like Terry dem

Busquet still took his team to the Euro cup semi few months ago, Boateng who was a starter at Bayern for a decade? Was it Dante, Hummels Van Buyten carrying him in Germany and Bayern?

Yeah, get carried by good players who control and win games, and as soon as they decline and you are asked to actually defend, you claim you have past your peak.

Kroos, Schweinsterger, Muller, Lewa and co were carrying him

At the age of 29, when defenders are supposed to be at their best, with plenty experience and your legs still with you is when you see frauds like Pique and Boateng claiming to be past their peak. In Piques case, he even finished earlier at 27. Rubbish and ingredients.

raumdeuter:
Did Messi stop playing after 2015? Why did Messi stop carrying him?

The only thing that matter is what you do at your peak, not what you do past it. Ronaldo, Dinho Boateng, Vidic didnt play at the top into their mid 30s yet better than those Silva Noble, Ashley Young, Zlatan Terry who wan die for field

How old was Pique in 2016?

Story for the Gods

As soon as they lose the people that are carrying them, they claim they are past their peak.

Funny how Busquet, Pique, Alba peak all ended in 2015. Maybe God set all their biological clock to end at the same time

Smells to me like they lost Xavi and later Neymar that had been carrying them. Messi at least still carried on winning WPOTY.

Same with Boateng who was carried his whole career, never honoured and lost his peak at 29, when many defenders are just warming up to show their class

timbros:
Your Jorginho slander won't work tonight.

Dude have been excellent from first minute.

Story

Sorry for who buy Chilwell for FPL. That injury will keep him out a while

Tuchel should bring Barkley into the striker position. I'd like to see him there, also rest Pulisic before he injure again

Donjazet, RLC just came on and has already outshined Garba Lawal

Is there anybody in the back 7 that Garba Lawal has outperformed today?

raumdeuter:
The Barcelona defence led by Pique and Puyol won it for Valdes

Rubbish. What defending did they have to do when their team had 80% possession and Messi to finish

We've been seeing how Pique has been covering himself in glory since 2015

Reeeeeece!!!

I knew that was going in soon as it dropped to him

raumdeuter:
Same goal line clearance players make every weekend?

Even Dunk and WanBissaka dey do goal line clearance
Get on google search Matip, Milner, Dunk Fabinho, Walker, Mings, Stones anyone and everyone has goal line clearances

No be the same goal line clearance gif you dey use disturb us with Boathand?

How did we not score there?

raumdeuter:
Ferguson was quoted to have said attack win games defence win championships

Thiago Silva has played in Europe for over a decade, No CL the only time we hear of Thiago SIlva is when perusing the embarassing stats of a defender who couldnt protect a 4 goal lead and led his team to the worst loss ever in CL history

When will Silva show us a meaningful trphy he won on the field not those polling booth awards

So the same UEFA TOTY and FIFPRO plus UEFA player of the year you have called polling booth awards when it comes to Jorginho are what you want to use to rate the Silva? Talk about being consistent

Which defence won Championships for Victor Valdes?

If you replace Boateng with Silva in World Cup, will the result be different?

While Thiago Silva is playing at the top at 37, Boateng was sent to backwater at 32. When Silva was breaking transfer record for a defender, Boateng was being chased from Man City by Lescott. Say no more.

raumdeuter:
The occasion matters, Players make goal line clearances every matchday all over every league No one shots their name

When Silva gives the type of performance gave at the biggest stage in world football, We can resume this comparison ordinary CL final, he was found wanting

The occasion doesn't matter for defenders. Forwards and midfielders are what take teams to finals.

Because of occasion, an Okoro like Pique will be feeling better than Maldini, or Victor Valdes will be feeling better than common Dubravka.

When Thiago Silva was breaking world transfer record for a defender, Boateng was being bounced from Man City.

Thiago Silva was making UEFA TOTY and FIFPRO at wack Milan and PSG which Boateng could not do while winning World Cup

raumdeuter:
In a world cup final, CL final

Who cares. If it was WC final Morata made that chip, will your dibia hold Silvas leg from making the same save again?

Midfielders and forwards take you to finals, defenders just have to do their job on any occasion