benalvino3: only someone with a nibble mind will support nonsense. after 9/11, they did this to the Muslim society. If you know what morals are then you won't be setting people or no matter who they are.
What is "Society" about your Boogaloo boys.
Join Boogaloo boys, go along with crimes, get banged.
A raging Islamophobe like you suddenly finding empathy for Muslim society. lol.
You and your fellow coon Benalvino need to get your points straight cos Benalvino told us Boogaloo boys are not racist while you are calling them KKK.
BTW, how does this case indicate half of White Supremacists are FBI? FBI only got involved because someone reported the group. If they were not alerted, the group will be 100% non-FBI. As the White Supremacist apologist you are, you want to now use this to carry water and make it representative of White Supremacists all round the country.
By the way, I don't give a fück if 99 FBI officers were used to catch one Nazi. Bïtch ass coon crying for his darling Boogaloo boys that got busted.
Nazism and White Supremacy is not a political ideology as you so casually excuse below. Their ideology literally represents the extermination of me which has been put into practice before over hundreds of years. You can take the most centrist Jew and watch them flare up at the sight of a Nazi. I'm not here to argue nonsense with you. The right of a Nazi to present himself to a Jew is literally a crime in sane countries. My rights do not end where a White Supremacists begins. His mere presentation as a White Supremacist is an expression of a wish to end my life, not a political ideology. In the country I live in, you get jailed for mere membership of such a group.
Take your twisted self back to watching violent manga cartoons you sicko.
BasedUsername: The truth is that even if Rittenhouse was a racist (which is not true) with confederate flag underwear and swastikas tattooed on his eyelids, the law still protects him like it would anybody. Or do you think I should get killed for being an atheist? My views are offensive and blasphemous to certain people who generally have no qualms about using violence for whatever reason. That is why we have rights, that is why we should be able to defend ourselves. Nobody's existence is provocation. Your rights end where another's start.
BasedUsername: So which talking head did you pick up that one up from? You guys are almost interchangeable in the way you speak, I feel like I've had this argument hundreds of times already.
"He doesn't agree with me, therefore, racist." Race has nothing to do with this matter though. A hispanic male shot 3 white jews, killing 2 of them. Somehow you bend over backwards to make this about race. It's always abut race, there's never any nuance. Yet you regurgitate the same slurs that actual racists and white supremacists taught you and use them against other black people when you don't like their opinions.
Your inability to hold a rational convo without your emotions bubbling out control shows me that you didn't reason yourself into these conclusions. The media riled you up, you bought hype and now you're angry.
The truth is that even if Rittenhouse was a racist (which is not true) with confederate flag underwear and swastikas tattooed on his eyelids, the law still protects him like it would anybody. Or do you think I should get killed for being an atheist? My views are offensive and blasphemous to certain people who generally have no qualms about using violence for whatever reason. That is why we have rights, that is why we should be able to defend ourselves. Nobody's existence is provocation. Your rights end where another's start.
So no matter how much you try to dehumanize the other the guy, the fact remains that he only defended himself from violent threats.
Stop speaking grammar, you self-hating coon. I have never come here to discuss any "self-defence" nonsense with you or anyone. The below is what you should have told us you came to do - express your white supremacist loving self, you sick and twisted werey. Kill all the other yarns
BasedUsername: More than half of the people in KKK and Neo-Nazi groups are either undercover security agents or their informants.
benalvino3: anyone who you say is a proud boy must be a proud boy. which Genie is granting you all those wishes?
It's not like if he released ID card showing membership of Proud Boys, you won't tell us that's OK like you have done numerous times. You are a coon afterall.
First you denied his video stating his wish to shoot protestors then you made justification for it. Now you are denying his sympathies with White Supremacist groups. The day he releases ID card, you will still find justification
benalvino3: baseless speculation. It is because he is a very popular guy that is innocent and people would want to hear from him.
What made him popular, and what does that uneducated chap have to say that people want to hear. He is only popular for achieving their secret fantasies.
He knew the store owners.I posted a photo of him with the store owners yesterday
Stop lying. He met the store owners that morning in offering his services.
Do you text someone you know with an introduction of "Hi Sam, it's Ben", then proceed to ask for the address of a Business you know?
Pictures were taken with the store owner that day of the riot which is the first day Kyle met the store owner. What does a multimillionaire store owner have to do with an uneducated 17 year old boy. Kyle was capping and approaching random businesses for the opportunity to insert himself into a volatile situation in opposition to people he hates.
benalvino3: you have been posting this photo claiming it as proof he is a white supremacist. It is either Obama is part of his gang or you have been heavily brainwashed
benalvino3: Says the guy who did not watch the trial. he is not the store owner we all know but they were asked to protect that building. The store owners and others who protected the store were put under oath. Go watch the trial then come back and edit this misinformation you are spreading.
I watched that part of the trial - Sam's testimony. Kyle went to the store owner that morning and collected his number. Tell me what is his relationship with the store?
Like I told you, next time there's a riot in PH, feel free to approach a random store owner. Here he is begging the store owner he doesn't know if he can come and protect his shop, of which he doesn't even know the address.
BasedUsername: More than half of the people in KKK and Neo-Nazi groups are either undercover security agents or their informants.
Like I said, you are just another coøn. Werey coming out of disguise. You should have saved the grammar and told us you are a sympathiser and water carrier for White Supremacist groups. I could already see that in the way you were lionising Kyle to be some sort of rambo. You better stick to discussing manga cartoons that made you such a sick individual.
benalvino3: The judge denied it because it is irrelevant and the beauty of this all. Saying something and doing something is not the same thing. Rosenbaum was shouting he is gonna kill people and Bleep them up. He was only shot when he was trying to do what he said. If kyle wanted to shoot people how come he only shoot people who were trying to hurt him?
all the witnesses the prosecution calls to convict kyle's stories ended up in favor of kyle, non of them see anything related to nazi or racist from kyle. I don't know where you are getting that from.
would you say all the unprovoked black-on-black shootings in the fruited plains of Chicago are nazi and racist related? would you say it is racist for a 7/11 owner to defend his store from robbers with guns race-related?
First you denied that was him, now you are spinning another tale. Shut up dude.
Kyle is no store owner and doesn't know the store owner. A random guy going to "protect" a Business with which he has no relationship, yeah right. More like trying to carry out the wish he expressed of being given a reason to shoot people he hates.
Yeah, totally not a racist, just repeatedly flashing Proud Boy signs
BasedUsername: You're so full of rage my dude. Armed protesters have always been a thing in America, the Black Panthers even conducted an armed protest back in the 60s. Were they also children of hate or nazis? There have been armed civilians on both sides of the aisle during protests but you only think it's a bad thing now that you see someone who you believe to be your ideological opponent doing it.
By the way, can you provide evidence to show the guy was a nazi? You're just slinging mud and grasping at straws to justify why he should have been lynched. There are videos of him at that event giving first aid to a girl who was hurt during the riot. The only racism I saw came from Rosenbaum who was shouting the n-word at the guy and his group on video.
Also, he hadn't shot anyone before the mob started chasing him so i don't even know what you're going on about there.
He was foolish for being there at the time, granted but I can't help but notice that you give a pass to the people who were burning down the city for what was later discovered to be a justified shooting. Especially when Rittenhouse was the CHILD in this situation. You hold the child responsible for being at a riot to defend property but not the adults destroying the city. You hold the child responsible for being with a gun when he would have been dead or seriously hurt without it.
Fvck it, whether you are a nazi, commie, jihadist, or whatever messed up ideology that exists, you still have your right to life. Thus, you have the rights to defend yourself from people who want to kill you.
And stop it with this partisan stuff. I couldn't give a crap about left or right wing. Hell, five or six years ago my opinions on gender equality and lgbt rights were considered radical on this forum. Just argue facts, this in-group/out-group stuff kills conversation.
At the end of the day, all this could have been avoided if the media had just reported the facts about Jacob Blake.
Stop talking rubbish dude. You can only deceive yourself. Your history on this forum and the way you have been lionising Kyle shows your true colours.
Your attempt to narrow this down to simply a self defence case shows where your sympathy lies. My gripe is Kyle going there out of his virulent hatred in the first place. Here's a video of him two weeks earlier watching the riots and saying he wish he had his AR on him so he can pump bullets in the rioters. His mouth has told me where his heart lies, regardless of the fact the actions of that day fall under American standards of self-defence. The same heart is what took him there that night wishing a nigga would.
So save your sanctimonious bullcrap about self defence. That racist wanted trouble from the jump.
There is nothing like going to counter protest a group who feel aggrieved unless you are intolerant of the group protesting, especially when their rage is so high.
I can't go to counter protest a gay rights demonstration unless there's a virulent hatred driving me there. Neither can I go where Muslims or some other group are protesting. Much less armed and intimidatingly so. Anyone you see counter protesting any group with arms on them has a hatred for that group.
Even in Nigeria when groups are rioting and burning down the City, we put palm fronds on our cars to show we are not against them. It doesn't matter if we disagree with their method of rioting, it would take extreme hatred to tool up to show we are countering whatever they are protesting about
Everybody gets their chance to protest. Citizens job is either to sympathise, or stay home if we don't agree and let Government who we pay our taxes resolve the matter, not to go inflame people on edge. We may even sympathise with some elements of their cause, but be disgusted by their method of rioting about it. I believe that is the way most people feel about BLM, but only the Nazis go around forming vigilante to oppose BLM. Here in Britain, most people were disgusted by BLM pulling down statues of old British figures, but only the NeoNazis went out to seek confrontation at the statues. Normal citizens already knew the Police would do their best to protect those statues, but the Nazis went there to seek confrontation.
I don't need a soothsayer to tell me that any Sunni who goes to Abuja to counter protest El ZakZaky people is virulently anti-Shiite. Rittenhouse is a blooming racist, put that in your pipe and smoke it. I don't even need to see him posing with Proud Boys and throwing up their signs to know (which he did). By his going there that night, I already know his orientation. Bible says by their fruits, we shall know them.
Mumu like you will be the one asking for any evidence of George Zimmerman being a racist until you saw Zimmerman auctioning off Confederate flags years later
And stop parroting right wing semantics about Rosenbaum being a racist for using the N word at Kyle. What intent is there toward Kyle? Rosenbaum who joined a black protest, using word nigga on a white man should tell you he listens to too much rap and is mentally disturbed. Stop gaslighting.
Spare me your weyrey disguising under self defence talk, spare me.your parroting of far-right talking points such as Rosenbaum using the N word on Kyle or Kyle shooting white men (he shot white activists rioting for a black cause just like Wilkes-Booth shot Lincoln), and spare me foolish talk of that boy being a medic
BasedUsername: I don't understand what you're talking about. An angry mob attacked him, some of whom were armed too, and he came out alive. Life is not John Wick where you're steadily hitting people with headshots. He shot Rosenbaum (who was grabbing his weapon at the time) enough times to bring him down and he even let people know that he had just shot him
He also, showed good enough judgement to not hurt anyone who wasn't attempting to hurt him. He retreated when he could and fought back when cornered. He always used enough force to neutralize his assailants, and in the end he attempted to surrender to police.
Or given that you were in that situation, how would you have handled it differently?
I wouldn't be in that situation cos I'm not a child of hatred that goes to flex muscles or guns at people I disagree with.
A mob is supposed to attack you when you shoot one of them. If Grosskeutz had shot Kyle, he'd be the one with the self defence verdict. How can both be right at the same time
Right from the first day I watched the video the day after the shooting I said Kyle will walk under America's crazy laws. That does not mean I am not disgusted by what he went there to do. I even dislike BLM, but what I dislike more are Nazis who go to riots in the name of defending statues or businesses they don't even know. When people are in a rage, whether real or perceived, you let them burn out. Only a real racist will go to such an event in the first place, not a normal person. No man goes strapped to oppose rioters without half a hope of someone giving him a reason to use. A case of I wish a nigga would.
You on the other hand are lionising him. Save your bollocks, you right-wing werey.
budaatum: Ahmaud Arbery was not a threat. He had no weapon, and was running away when he was shot, so not the same thing, even though his killers are trying to claim self-defense.
Note the contradiction below. We'll see what the jury decides.
How these guys want claim self defence is the funniest thing this year. Aubry case should hurry up and wrap up to assuage tensions from the Rittenhouse case.
Leverage is the least of concerns when setting interest rates. Most retail traders aren't even concerned about overnight fees when using leverage. How will someone trading at 100x leverage concern himself with whether overnight fee is at 6% APR or 10% APR . - for a trade they will only stay in for a couple of days and pay like 0.01% in Overnight fees. It's like you haven't hit the wild streets of Reddit/Robinhood/Etoro recently. Young boys are going YOLO.
BasedUsername: He had just fallen when that guy started kicking him, and its difficult to aim a long rifle at such close range in a heated situation. Also his gun seemed to jam before Huber started his attack, so he cleared the jam, aimed the gun (tbh Huber basically walked into barrel), and ventilated him all while receiving skateboard blows. However, the Grosskreutz encounter was the most impressive. His gun was ready but Grosskreutz raised his hands so Rittenhouse stopped aiming, Grosskreutz then tried to pull a sneaky and draw his weapon while Kyle's guard was down. It wasn't until he had it pointed at Kyle that Kyle blew his bicep off. The same one that was holding the gun, meaning that his hand was just stuck gripping it.
He definitely isn't Rambo but he showed above-average skill, dexterity and discipline for a seventeen year-old in a tense situation.
Stop lionising him jor. Are you having role model issues?
Rambo no dey fall in combat. Fear tripped him over.
Which self discipline did he show to blast an unarmed Rosenbaum four times. Other militia there said Kyle was flustered, and they had encountered Rosenbaum and turned their back on him cos they knew he was a barking puppy. Kyle got flustered by Rosenbaum.
There is a way to compose yourself with a gun, that will back people off, which is what all the other vigilantes did to Rosenbaum.
I don't get how the fed are encouraging leverage? Using leverage is an individual choice, and you have to use leverage when trading commodities or forex anyway due to their low volatility.
sanpipita: You are being speculative, anyone could also say they were trying to disarm him and hand him over to the police, a good level of threat has to be established not speculations, more reason I worry about how people easily throw words like self defense around
BasedUsername: That's what Rosenbaum tried to do, it ended in tears.
It seems like Kyle is quite skilled with a gun tbh. Also, both Rosenbaum and Huber didn't seem like the type to really think things through
Nothing skilled about hitting targets at that range. Boy was just lucky. If someone can kick him in the head and another can skateboard him while he's holding a gun, his skill level is low. Stop making him out to be Rambo. He was just lucky.
raumdeuter: When you hear gunshot all run na away from the shooter unless you have a death wish. You don ever experience shooting and run towards the shooter when he is not targetting you specifically?
1995, Police shot one boy dead at my school interhouse sports at PH liberation stadium, see as we pick race.
But Kyle was actually gettable due to the dark night, and so many people to distract him, plus the length of his gun is not easily manouvreable if you get into close range.
Na Huber fückup, he go dey aim for knockout with skateboard when he could have easily grabbed this gun in a bout of egelege. Just jumping on this gun would have ended the matter cos others were coming in.
raumdeuter: I wont carry a gun to any protest, How many protest can I even join when I have seen police kill people in my presence in Nigeria for protesting
Do you think as a Nigerian I will be chasing a man carrying a gun? You see a man with a gun, you chase him attack him, what exactly do you expect in that situation
Nobody wey get sense go even go protest, much less go to counter protest or defend businesses during protest. Talkless of carrying gun. That's what Insurance companies are for.
But I can chase down a gunman if someone shout that he shot someone. All die na die.
raumdeuter: Many people were carrying guns at the protest for whatever reason Law and order or Unlawfulnes and disorder. So him carrying gun is not the problem. Many protests have supporters and opponents carrying guns
When will you sef carry that your gun to protest?
I'm sure the Nigerian in you has more sense than that.
As far as I'm concerned, anybody wey open carry to hot atmosphere is responsible for what that gun does.