European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 6:07pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 6:00pm On Jul 08, 2021*. Modified: 7:44pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
raumdeuter: Winning has to do with many things and more importantly the competition you face on the way. Kanu and Okocha and Aiyegbeni were facing top Cameroun, top CoteDIvore and top Egypt while Sunday Mba and co were facing Mali and Burkina Faso. There was no structure that was right with Emenike and co that was not better with the Eagles of 2000 to 2006 that failed to win
2. Most teams in that era played 4-4-2 with 2 wingers, 2 Strikers, 1 DM and 1 AM. So if 442 made England structurally bad there were other bad teams as well. While Beckham was grossly overrated, He cannot shoulder the blame for the poor English display alone
By 2008 Beckham already retired yet they couldn't win the world cup when Gerrard and Lampard were in their prime yet they couldn't even qualify for Euros cos they finished in qualifiers behind Croatia and Russia. In 2010 Beckham was also out of the team yet they struggled to make it out of the groups before falling to Germany filled with mostly boys who just won the Euro U21(Khedira, Ozil, Boateng, Neuer) and some mediocre senior players(Friedrich, Podolski Mertersacker) plus a 20yr old Muller
Ozil did not always play LW for Germany In 2010 world cup his debut, he played AM while Muller was the RW and Podolski the LW with Schweinsteiger and Khedira in midfield
What is the difference between a Schurlle and a Defoe or Joe Cole? Is it that Schurlle was better?
An English team that had Rio, Terry, Cashley, Gerrard Lampard Beckham Rooney Those are 7 players that have been tagged best in their positions at different times. Best defenders, best midfielders, best strikers failing to win Is a big shame to them and someone like Lampard will carry a lot of the blame
Lampard played his first tournament for England in 2004, he retired in 2014. 6possible tournaments, Beckham was only available for 2 of them
What does it tell when you have a player with this type of record below This wrong and inaccurate. The Ivory Coast team that Super Eagles floored in the semifinals in 2013 would have floored Kanus SuperEagles handsomely. The change in structure was a combative midfield with Mikel supported by Onazi and Mba adding legs to that midfield. Also wingers that hustled all the way whereas Kanu would be playing with a two midfielder setup (one of which is Okocha who won't contribute defensively) and the likes of Utaka on the wing who won't hustle back as well as Moses. The change to a solid structure is what ensured that Super Eagles win with lesser players. Secondly, every successful team from 2004 (Lampards first tournament) played with a 3 midfielder setup. Both Greece and Portugal in 2004 final, France and Italy in 2006 final, Spain and Germany in 2008 final, Holland and Spain in 2010 final, Italy and Spain in 2012 final. There is literally no record of a winning team playing 4-4-2 which England persisted with until 2012. You have Gerrard out of position as a DM, Lampard out of position as a CM, Scholes out of position as a LW. You can blame it on Beckham or poor management but the fact is the conditions and structure were not there for that team's success. Lastly, structure or lack of it is enough to turn a group of good players into shït, or a group of average players into winners. You can see what happened to Real Madrid Galacticos when a DM Makelele was withdrawn from their structure and they became whipping boys. You can equate England team of then to the Galacticos, just big names without any midfield structure. If I ask you the difference between Harry Kewell and Didi Hamman on paper, you will say Harry Kewell was the better player or hardly any difference. Harry Kewell was flying in UCL with Leeds while Didi Hamman was an average Joe with Newcastle. Yet the decision to play Harry Kewell in 2005 UCL final had Liverpool midfield overrun and 3-0 down, while subbing him out for Hamman gave Liverpool backbone and provided the platform for them to bring the game back to 3-3. This is how structure and organisation trumps big names on paper. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 2:25pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
Kilishihunter: Maybe he thinks I'm a chelsea fan If Kane likes let him score 15 goals against Italy in the first half, sub himself out and become the coach for the second half, Top 5 podium for ballon d or him no go see, Most people have forgotten mbappe is still in the running even though his chances have reduced, The UCL came to England for the second time in 3years but they want to turn the ballon d or to a low Budget speech and prize giving day ceremony Harry Kane is top scorer in EPL and will win top scorer in Euros if he scores in final. And you think they will give Mbappe who failed to score in Euros, got knocked out in 2nd round and lost Ligue1 title to Lille over Harry Kane who would have top scored in EPL, Euros and won Euros if those permutations come true The English hate is real. I am telling you now, the top 3 for Ballon d'Or are Messi, Kane and Lewandowski |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 1:31pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
basilico: The rumors are that there is CP . No media outlet has denied there is. First the media denied the laptop existed. Media was silent. Then denied it was Hunters laptop saying its Russia fabrication. Then they accepted it was his laptop. Never said anything about CP. The media is covering lies with more lies . It will implode one day. They cant stand the thought of being caught red-handed on such a huge lie. Giuliani would never say there is CP if there is none. He would be arrested by FBI pronto since they are investigating him and we now know the FBI is the leftist enforcement brown shirts. You mean even OANN and Newsmax are covering it up? Stop talking rubbish and reading rubbish. Giuliani is a fantastic liar. Why would FBI arrest him for exercising his first amendment right to say what he wants. Libel is not a Federal crime. Nobody arrested Trump when he was lying that Obama was not born in the United States or lying that Ted Cruz father killed JFK |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 1:11pm On Jul 08, 2021*. Modified: 2:33pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
raumdeuter: This is not true and are just excuse to cover the ineptitude of the English teams all these years
Many teams have won major tournaments and are far from complete
2018 France won the world cup with a striking black hole called Giroud 2016 Every dept in Portugal was incomplete yet won the Euros, the defence was Fonte Cedric and Pepe, midfield Moutinho Renato, Attack Eder 2014 Germany basically played without a left wing with Howedes and Ozil on the left 2010 2012 Spain played without a striker thoughout and carrying ninnies like Busquets, unproductive Iniesta and liability Fabregas(Going by your assesment of them) 2008 Once again Ninnies like Fabregas and unproductive Iniesta 2006 Italy had to use Materazzi and Grosso 2004 The less said about Greece the better cos every dept looked like a weak point 2002 Brazil won a world cup with Juan, Roque Junior, Kleberson and Lucio as the defensive spine
England in the Lampard years were more complete than most of these winners yet they failed to win
If England wins this Euro, Its a shame to Lampard Terry Rio and their set This is rubbish and comparing apples with oranges. None of these are structural problems just minor irritations. When a team get it's structure right, it will be ready to win. No England.manager took the hard decision to get the structure right and wasted those guys International careers pandering to Beckham for the most part of their careers. There is reason why Kanu and Yakubu could not win AFCON despite playing multiple tournaments with more illustrious names (on paper) but as soon as Nigeria got it's structure right, Stephen Mba, Brown Ideye and Emenike were able to do so. When Spain was ready to win, they waffed Raul and said they are not playing 2 striker formation to accommodate Raul again. That was what birthed the 2008 generation - a change of structure. Like I said England wasted these players prime careers pandering to David Beckham and 4-4-2 formation. Imagine Gerrard playing DM and Lampard CM in a midfield two while Paul Scholes was moved out to the left wing. Is that where they play for their clubs? So all you have is names on paper without getting the qualities out of the players. Paul Scholes even had to quit in disgust at this mismanagement of their talents. Like I always say in football, if you don't have a defensive midfielder, you are not ready to win. And worse if you play two attacking midfielders in an outdated midfield 2 just to fit names on a teamsheet while every other team has moved to 3 central midfielders. Every example you gave above are minor irritations, not structural issues. You say Spain didn't have a striker. That's because they chose not to play with a striker. They still have David Villa, Guiza, Alvaro Negredo if they want. It's their choice to go with David Silva upfront. And we are talking David Silva, not Emile Heskey or Peter Crouch that England were forced to use. Ozil always played left-wing for Germany cutting inside as Muller always had the AM position. It's their choice. They could still use Gotze or Schurrle there if they want, not having to rely on an Aaron Lennon or a Shaun Wright Phillips. It's not like they were back to the days of relying on David Odonkor or Asamoah to fill that position. Any other thing you mentioned is just trolling talks and is not valid. Fabregas was a great AM in the 2000s. How is having Fabregas playing AM for Spain in 2008 an impediment? The only team there that fought against the odds were Greece and Portugal, but at the very least they had a clear 4-5-1 structure and parked bus throughout the tournament. That does not make that Portugal team better than the team of Costinha, Maniche, Deco, Figo, Ronaldo. Some luck is still involved. End of the day, England coaches mismanaged their players and were the only big team going to tournaments with 4-4-2 formation in order to fit in a certain David Beckham, completely ruining the structure of the team. There were also poor players making up the squad. Many legends were wasted and are on this table, not only Lampard but Gerrard and Scholes too. Bring any of them into this current England team and they are walking into the team and winning the tournament. All this talk can only fool those without a first hand experience of the tactical details of that era. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 12:15pm On Jul 08, 2021 |
basilico: Daily mail has not said there was CP they found neither have they denied. If there was none they would have cleared him because the story last year was of unpublished pics with Hunter and his 14 year old niece. Daughter to his late brother whose wife he was having an affair with. Better still Hunter was also said to have had something with the sister of his late brother's wife. Such characters you defend. Says a lot about your moral compass or more about how you reason out. There was no child porn. Its a serious accusation for Giuliani to claim that, Hunter should have filed defamation suit by now. He will not, because it will require Giuliani proving that the laptop has verified CP. Anyway you exist in a different universe some scenarios can never be processed by your mind. If there was child pørn, they would allege it. Which world do you live in? Which news outlet does not want to be the first to uncover such a story. They have literally dragged him to the gutter with that article, and you think they won't allege child pørn if they saw it? If Daily Mail have received the hard drive, you can be sure Newsmax, OAN and all those crazy batshit news agencies have received it. Still waiting for them to allege the child pørn, outside the rubbish you read on far right blogs. Nobody is arguing with you about Hunters character. You must be nüts. Hunter is not an elected official for people to worry about his character. Even through his laptop, you can see his dad encouraging to change his ways. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 9:58am On Jul 08, 2021 |
basilico: You cannot publish child porn. Its a crime. Possession of CP is a huge crime. Have the feds confirmed there was no CP? Nary. The feds have everything, but since getting rid of Trump trumped all reason, they let the guy walk.
He lied when he applied for a gun licence about never being on drugs. Let anyone try that and he'll be in hot soup.
The big issue is how the Law Enforcement is only after Trump and letting democrats Scot free with any crimes. You forget that once they are done with Trump and his supporters They will come for you next.
I doubt you have the mental capacity to understand that. Hunter has crimes all over but is walking free all over while people who forgot the day they spoke to someone are indicted for lying to FBI and it becomes a media big event Hunter is under investigation for tax evasion. The Daily Mail cannot publish child pōrn but they can confirm it's existence. There is absolutely nothing stopping them alleging they found child pørn having gone through the hard drive with a fine tooth comb. The child pørn stuff is a red herring, another of Giulianis fantastic lies. The computer guy or Giuliani probably saw him hugging his young relatives and started blabbing nonsense. You see the difference between the way sane people and cultists.consume news? You rather believe fairy tales and gossip while I believe what was found and published.
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Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 8:47am On Jul 08, 2021 |
basilico: Giuliani had them yes. Im sure CNN has not told you how he got the copies of the laptop.
Hunter Biden took his laptop to a computer repair shop.He signed the work ticket. One of the conditions that unpaid items revert to the shop if the owner does not come for them within a certain duration. Hunter never came for them. When the shop owner checked the data , he noticed some Child porn. He called the FBI and gave them the laptop.Being a sharp man he had kept images of the laptop incase the FBI did not follow up on what the shop had seen on the laptop.
As expected the FBI sat on the laptop for months. They covered up Hunter Biden dirty stuff.
The shop owner months after seeing the FBI do nothing contacted Giuliani and gave him the copies of the laptop. Giuliani exposed the laptop but media and big tech went all in for the Bidens and declared it Russia propaganda. Never mind that emails and texts found in the laptop have been authenticated beyond proof to be those from to Hunter. Even photos with him smoking crack, in bed with hoes, his pornhub account and lots of stuff ,bad stuff have been authenticated.
The FbI has still done nothing.
Imagine if it was Trumps children doing this
Text message authenticated recovered from Hunter Biden laptop talking about his addiction and how it ran in the family.
And a photo of hunter head smoking crack ..As published by a Chinese newspaper. Daily Mail got a copy of the hard drive, ran through it and certified it was his, and published the crack and hookers. They never uncovered any child pørn or claimed to have. The child pōrn story is a lie for conspiracy loving gullible sückers like you. The laptop shows a wayward drug addict, perhaps tax avoidance that's all. And America doesn't care because their own former President is also a hooker loving tax avoider. Standards have already been lowered to where they don't care. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9339527/Hunter-Biden-blew-tens-thousands-prostitutes-drugs-luxury-cars.html |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:24am On Jul 08, 2021 |
Harry Kane with a goal or two in a winning effort in the final takes the Balloon D'or unless Messi does something similar in the Copa. Outside these events, it defaults to Lewandowski. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 12:05am On Jul 08, 2021 |
popizaino: Andres iniesta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frank Lampard.
I can't be talking plenty on mount issue . popizaino: Wait till popizaino tells you he is balancing attack and defence like say na CM him be . |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:59pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: we are in July, you're talking May We don't want to return to fighting for 4th place again when we get to August. Sorry for bringing a don like Grealish into it, na common Traore toros am and made him give away a penalty to lose the game.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:53pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: Ibime did you see your bag of burger Remind me what Grealish did to Jorginho in May |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:51pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
popizaino: Andres iniesta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Frank Lampard.
I will be stupid to bring mount into a conversation involving iniesta . When you were asked why Iniesta lacks creativity, this looks like what you said popizaino: Wait till Hensben tells you he is balancing attack and defence like say na CM him be . No wonder Willian has more output than Iniesta in half the time spent in Europe Major leagues. Iniesta, Willian and Mount are on the same table, don't shake it. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 11:47pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Who is this cheesing coon and his cultist wife standing behind Trump in this video?
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:32pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
popizaino: Wait till Hensben tells you he is balancing attack and defence like say na CM him be . This sound like what you always tell us about Eunuch |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:31pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Kilishihunter: Took them this far yet was caught ball watching Kane for England's first goal, Denmark no die since then?  Rubbish. Kane ran from where he was with the centrebacks to pick up that ball, he was behind Hojberg. The centrebacks job is either to follow Kane out there or shout someone else to pick him up. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:19pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Kilishihunter: We see hojberg work today Yes we did. If Jorginho or Busquet can take Denmark this far, make I die.
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:18pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Mount to press Jorginho like bobby in the final.
If Henderson plays with one of Rice/Phillips and Mount pressing Jorginho like bobby, it's curtains for Italy.
My only fear of Italy is Barrella and Veratti will push England on the back foot if Henderson doesn't start.
Quote me. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 11:04pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
User09: I have to tell u guys though. It was really painful having to read all that Jorginho carping from Ibime E pain am  Imagine getting pained over Jorginho, a 3 year liability for Chelsea |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:39pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Sterling MOTM
We need to put Sterling and Sancho/Saka on them Emerson 24/7 |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:38pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Nice one England
We better play Henderson in the final to ensure good midfield progression cos Veratti and Barrella will do the same. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:14pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 10:05pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
popizaino: I actually focused on him because of you and I must admit that I have been very very impressed so far.He is a very good player who isnt afraid of challenges and can take risks when necessary. Balances the defense and midfield so well but I wont quit my agenda just because of all this. Honesty is the best policy but agenda must agend! Just know if I tell you about DM position, you can take it to the bank |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:55pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
popizaino: Where was Hojberg allowing Philips to take shot from that position? Hojberg 6 tackles, 3 interceptions. Best player on the pitch. Let's go to the reliable Whoscored for confirmation
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:24pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Roland17: Declan Rice and Kalvin Phillips sit at the base of that midfield and that is the reason, worse still, neither match the pace, mobility and fluidity of their wingers and that delays the attack. Southgate has always played careful football but that is the reason why they are slow in moving the ball. Playing two DMs and no CM will do that. Henderson should replace Phillips. Rice is sitting while Phillips is at best making a poor impression of imitating a CM. |
Foreign Affairs › Re: American Politics Thread: Democrats Take Control Of Congress by Ibime(m): 9:20pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
basilico: He has the votes to subpoena anything, ballots included. You mean the fool and Trump lackey who has been serving his oligarch and making false claims since the election started. The same fool who went to the Capitol to join the rioters? That was how he ordered an audit in Pennsylvania, the auditors praised the count as accurate and professional, he went and edited the auditors report. The same auditors that resigned in Arizona by the way https://www.businessinsider.com/gop-senators-in-pa-lobbied-for-election-audit-in-december-report
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:19pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
See as Hojberg followed Sterling to intercept that cross and concede the corner.
I remember the last time Jorginho saw Sterling running down that wing in UCL final, he started pointing for Thiago to leave his position and help. Thank God for Chilwell on that move |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:17pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:11pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Trevor012: Here What is this picture showing? Can you circle Hojberg and was this the build up to the goal? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:09pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
BlueAngel444: Ibime na this DM you talk say make I watch today 
By the way Rice try sha, with the one Philips dey off sometimes I am responsible for what I write, not what you imagine. All tournament I've been calling for Henderson to replace Phillips. Ibime: Actually Henderson legs beside Rice is good. Henderson is also much more of a high volume passer than Phillips. Infact Henderson has been topping volume passes in EPL for a couple of years now. Phillips is a DM, not a second midfielder. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 9:07pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Trevor012: Ibime who is Hojberg marking here  Where? |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) › Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Club World Cup Champions 2025-2029 by Ibime(m): 8:40pm On Jul 07, 2021 |
Own goal actually |