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frumentius:
So how much did Abacha loot?
When Nigeria cleared her debt with the Paris Club and other debtors, the FinMin Dr Okonjo-Iweala said Nigerian BoPs weren't impacted as the funds came from recovered military dictators' looted funds held abroad in foreign currency.

I just looked at US Treasury restricted accounts: $275m accruing to Nigeria. Not enough to pay for the Tucanos. More important though: this was seized after 2012, so from whom?

Not every Nigerian loot is from Abacha. There are ministers, directors, governors, head of different organizations with funds stashed outside Nigerian. Many Nigerians were implicated in Panama papers and the recent one too. (I've forgotten the name). just to know how worse it is, even the current Senate president is in Code of conduct bureau for not declaring his overseas assets and account.
Many people talk about how corrupt Nigeria is but to them it's just a statement. They don't live and experience it like Nigerians do. It's quite painful.
God just help Nigeria.

iblawi:
By far over $14 billion.

This guy died 20 years ago and we are still receiving looted funds. Even the Paris Club is returning money to Nigeria till date.

I think 14b is far fetched. Around 1. Something dollars in Swiss. I don't think the ones is US and UK are up to 5b dollars.

And almost every Country have complied with Nigeria except US
https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/more-news/220271-nigeria-may-lose-550-million-abacha-loot-u-s-pacac.html/amp

A very lame excuse
http://saharareporters.com/2017/11/15/us-refuses-release-abacha-loot-because-its-dollars

frumentius:
The looted funds would be held by the US Treasury Department. As soon as Congress gives the final OK - if they were to be used to pay for this transaction - at the click of a button they'd be transferred.

Personally, I think the looted funds story is bunkum. During Obasanjo's presidency, funds looted by various dictators and stashed abroad were used to wipe out Nigeria's debt to the Paris Club and other external debtors. I fail to see what other funds could be involved.
I'll await your official source - not your unreliable media .

Legend has it that even the Swiss didn't know the exact amount of Abacha's money in their banks
They have been making refunds over the last 10yrs only for other accounts to pop up.
https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/headlines/200192-abacha-loot-switzerland-returns-723-million-nigeria-10-years.html/amp&ved=0ahUKEwi04v7GhqvYAhXBXRQKHZRnApAQFggkMAE&usg=AOvVaw20TOaPSxc_kym4KmYBar9m&ampcf=1

I don't know how true this But many news outlets ran the story

https://www.google.com.ng/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=http://thenews-chronicle.com/abacha-loot-is-too-huge-for-us-to-handle-world-bank/&ved=0ahUKEwjU4LPZhavYAhWBMBQKHRPKDvw4ChAWCCIwAA&usg=AOvVaw1mb9ucfFW1Pu0cbqjgS83Y

bidexiii:

Did I just ask a stupid question? Tell me sharp sharp so I can go and hide in a rabbit hole.

SupremeCourt:
moreover that one billion dollars is not part of the FEC approved statutory defence budget! COMMON SENSE!

Which one billion dollars are you talking about? Is it not the recently approved money from ECA? If so then a simple question: who are the signatories of that account?
The military do not have the right to walk up to AGF or FMF and demand for money. Though we know it happens when SHE was finance minister.

bidexiii:
Special elements of #forces armed with Czech assault riffle; cz-807

I've always wanted to ask this question: isn't the barrel too long or is there a technical reason for it.

SupremeCourt:
In a country where common sense is missing from leaders to followers. Lagos and Abuja streets should be filled with protesters for this shameless talk, a fool just released one billion dollars without knowing what it will ve spent for and he said it boldly!

On the details of what new $ 1 billion would be utilised for, the accountant general of the federation told PREMIUM TIMES to direct its inquiries to the appropriate government agency responsible for the exercise – the military.

“I am not part of the military. I am not in the theatre of war. I do not know their needs. The military knows where to apply the money. That is why the question should be directed to them,” he said."

Premiumtimes Decenber 16 2017

Repeat of same crime committed by past FG 2014. If this shameless man paid salary from my tax works as accountant general in a big private company, can he sign release of one billion dollars to company engineers without asking what engineering projects the one billion dollars is meant for? Everywhere I waka go na fool I dey meet, I tire o.

Until senate pass law of death sentence for corruption and life jail for being accomplice to corruption, these financial crimes will kill Nigeria. Meanwhile, na fight we fight for petrol station getting petrol for car to go eat jollof and goat meat at Garki do Xmas.

Premium times must be stupid if they think the military will provide him a shopping list. Premium times always overhyping everything. He said he knows the money will be use for military procurements BUT not the details. That's not his job. If the FEC approves one billion dollars for you now, it's not the job of the AGF to ask you what will you use it for. his job is to give you the money. He maintains the federation account but the doesn't control it. Just like a banker who maintains your money but doesn't control it also. COMMON SENSE.

hanassholesolo:
Electricity is still a problem in Nigeria. Lmao.

Thank you for stating the obvious. Because if electricity is not a problem we will be here comparing our power supply.

Anybody wey lie and him area guys catch am here, idon finish for am

Abaji-Abuja 8 to 10hrs either day or night constant.

Jonathan is not the problem. I believe he has Nigerian interest at heart, it's just that surrounded himself with thiefs, oloshis, oyis and barawos.
May thunder fayaaaaaa....

rdokoye:
Support the Biafra movement, and you'll never have to deal with an Igbo person again. Don't you think that'll be most ideal? No point forcing a group of people, that obviously do not like other Nigerians (at least not anymore), to remain in the country.

I remember years ago, when the antagonism was one sided; people would make threads asking silly questions about Igbo people, and Igbo people would simply ignore them. Today, that's no longer the case, now you have Igbo people demeaning other Nigerians. It looks like Igbo folks are tired.

This is the most stupid single handedly the most dumbest method of recruitment I have ever seen. From pictures to "Support Biafra" to history lesson. "I remember years ago".

AlderFadington:
What kind of stupidity is This? You leave your house to go and feed others? so what you're saying is your people are cursed?

All the billions of naira only to leave it behind once the purge begins? You lot define effortless stupidity.

Like i said you're clueless. Kano has been a great commercial city even in the days when your ancestors were swinging from one tree to another

Keep lying to yourselves.

Don't mind him. Too much alcohol can change someone's brain upside down permanently.

fuckboys:
nonsense, Kano can't do without Igbos same way Lagos can't do without Igbos, we produce alot of iGR for your government and people, you don't know our worth cos you're a commoner , ask your government?. Go to sabon gari market, singer, Bata, bierut, yankaba, kofa ruws, kofa wanbe, igboes controls billions in those markets conbine. We feed you and your people everyday

Go back and do it in your state let's see if it's true

I Don tire abeg, among the three major tribes in Nigeria igbos are the smallest yet they always pick fights with those bigger than them. Today igbo Vs afonja
Tomorrow igbo Vs Aboki
Wetin Na, Igbos wey dey my area no be like this at all.

Xbee007:
The video, where you got them from, has been posted here a couple of time before you came on board.

I got the pictures from a British forum but I get your point.

Xbee007:
Why are you reposting this pics in 2017 ending

Repost Unless I miss them I don't think this specific ones were posted before. If they were (sorry my bad).

newafricaken254:
the year is about to end and we haven't seen the Nigeria JF-7 jets !?

I think Nigeria is going for Jf 17 block II and mass export production is slotted for next year. Around 30 to 40 flying around all belongs to PAF.

More

Nice Move

Alpha jet in Manchester airport UK before delivery to Nigerian Air Force back in 2015.

resurgentxtian4:
All Muslims nations can form a coal tAnd fight for Palestine. What is stopping them?

I can’t argue with you anymore. Jerusalem un is the hands of the Israelis so what is the point of all these arguments? Can you help Palestine to retrieve the land, that is the crucial question.

Yes yes yes, you are all bravado about Israel kicking the ass of Muslim countries and I pointed out a simple fact and you "I am not arguing again" like I said all your thinking is all about war, not diplomacy.

resurgentxtian4:
Then expect the al Aqsa mosque to be turned to rubbles. I guess it is because of that mosque that all Muslim nations are hyperventilating?

You that your thinking is all about war. Israel has never face the Muslim nations, it defeated the Arab nations, countries like Iran, Turkey, Pakistan, Indonesia and Malaysia did not partake in those wars. Maybe you should ask Israel what Iran did to it in Lebanon using JUST Hezbollah.

chymer:
This is a non binding resolution.

Its more like a talk shop. There have been many of such against North Korea and Syria. Russia and China vetoed them all.

Syria is still in shambles, and the North Korea is still developing Nuclear capabilities.

So why the fuss about this UN resolution?

Some of us here need to understand about international diplomacy and how the game is been played in UN.


UN can vote all they want, even if its 150:0
America can still veto it and nothing will still happen.

this one is non binding, but it paves way for a resolution that will be binding if the UNSC cannot be unanimous, already initiated by Turkey as leader of OIC and Yemen as Leader of Arab league.

bidex111:
Photos....

Pic 2: see that guy with his Nike

Drop it guys. You all seem to expect much from 1bn dollars.

Snow and Desert.*sigh* I think it's time to migrate to Algeria.

Algerian1:
off topic . Humour

Pic 3: now you are talking. That's the kind of MBT DHQ should go for. Definitely better than T90. 100 of these and we are good to go.

Somebody on this thread can change gear faster than Mercedes Benz GMT. I have never seen someone move from praising, patronizing and commending to downright insult so fast.

Algerian1:
Tunisian army

Is that steyr AUG?

PMB extend the tenure of Service Chiefs for the second time.
http://thenationonlineng.net/buhari-extends-tenure-service-chiefs-2/

SupremeCourt:
Kekekekekeke Okokobioko !!!

SupremeCourt you wicked o! You have turned all the liars against themselves, I said before that you are all liars here except a few sincere honest guys, the rest of you are self deceiving liars who turn blind eye to truth and market false info to boost your private ego.

The first person that shouted Nigeria must never buy T-72 again is Ibrahimanees and he is one of those now attacking me for demanding T-90. The moment he saw me come online ask for T-90 he stopped talking against T-72, he now says we dont give a fvck what tank Nigeria buys. Shameless liars you guys are, you are all what I said, hypocrites. See his comment below.



Patches now defending T-72 for Nigeria, go back 500 pages here and see how same Patches called T-72 a very bad tank and insulted Nigerian T-72, but now SupremeCourt calls for T-90, Pateches began defending T-72 that he condemned before. Hypocrite!

The South Africans quickly teamed up to join the foolish Nigerians to praise T-72 asking Nigeria to buy more second hand tank that cooks up its occupants to ashes. See South Africans shouting new Leopard tank for SANDF, but second hand T-72 for Nigeria 2018, and all the Nigerian fools said amen. Traitors, you should all be jailed, you prefer Nigeria to be destroyed just to say SupremeCourt is wrong, your ego is bigger than your fatherland, you are a fool.

Andrewza attacked T-90 calling it T-72. I said Algerian army generals will be fools for buying T-90 when they have T-72. The Algerian1 guy here launched attack back at Andrewza for reducing his T-90 to T-72 low class. Ah! SupremeCourt you wicked o, see how you have made mafia turn against mafia and mugu turn against maga! When I tell you truth you say I am wrong, now you see how you are fighting yourselves for telling lies to each other now?

Fools all of you, except a few sincere guys here who may be making honest human mistake and misled by the evil gang to reject T-90 for Nigeria, I know you the patriotic ones here, the other guys are hypocrites that can kill Nigeria to boost their personal ego. Traitors, you should all be in jail with Dasuki ATM for reducing Nigerian military from bulldog to pussy cat.

God see painment. So my post was eating at you you have to go through all my posts looking and plotting on how to reply me. Yep I don't want more T72. Maybe u should go back through all the posts again and you will find that no where did I say I am in support of T72 over T90. What I said was you guys are derailing the thread with arguments about Nigeria while there are people from different countries here. And I also point out how stupid and self centered you are. I am at home come and beat me.

Habane:
Random

1st pic, where is that?