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i am a jehovah's witnesses, over one hundred years ago, we have been liberated from that bondage of noisy prayer pattern, we live quetly and demonds dont come to our place of worships, and we dont cast out demonds that does not exists.
Matt 6 :2-9 is the standard MODEL Prayer pattern for all christians
Any other ideas different from this is expanded because some people want to use that method to confuse the poor just for their own gain (financial gain), you all know someone has to misinterprete the bible just to create new job for himself.
Let us be careful, satan is at work, he knows pple has problems not problem, so he uses prayer warriors that calls themselves modern days christians today to confuse people today in the name of night vigil. Beware of angels of darkness

I PARKED IN FRONT OF SLOT PHONE SHOP AT SAKA TINUBU STREET, VICTORIA ISLAND THIS MORNING, BY THE TIME I FINISHED BUYING MY PHONE, I COULD NOT FIND MY CRV CAR OUTSIDE THE SHOP AGAIN.
I FOUND MY CACRV AT LASTMA COMPOUND( WHEN YOU ENTER THAT COMPOUND AT AHMADU BELLO WAY BY ADEOLA ODEKU JUNCTION, YOU DONT NEED ANYONE TO TELL YOU THAT YOU ARE IN THE MIDST OF TOUTS, VERY DIRTY HOPELESS EMPLOYEE OF TINUBU/FASHOLA'S GOVT0. THEY HAD TO CALL ME TO THE BACK ROOM AND ASK ME TO PAY 20K IF I DONT WANT A RECEIPT FOR THE OFFENCE THEY CREATED FOR ME. AND THAT THEY WILL SEND ME TO EPE FOR A TRAINING IF I WANT TO FOLLOW DUE PROCCESS.
IS IT MY FAULT THAT LAGOS IS NOT PROVIDING A BETTER SPACIOUS ROAD FOR ITS COMMUNITY? OR AM I SUPPOSE TO TELL THEM HOW A CITY SHOULD BE PLANNED? AM I THE ONE THAT ASK LAGOS TO PUT A SHOPPING CENTER IN A PLACE THAT WILL NOT ACCOMMODATE MORE THAN TWO CARS KNOWING FULLY WELL THAT CUSTOMERS WILL COME? WHY IS ABUJA NOT LIKE THIS? WHY IS JBOURG SA NOT BUILD LIKE THIS? WHY IS LAGOS BUILT TO TREATHEEN VISITORS?
HOW CAN A SANE GOVERNOR PUT LAWS THAT ARE INCONSIDERATE TOGETHER
I WANT TINUBU AND FASHOLA TO KNOW ONE THING, IF THEY CONTINUE TO TREATHEN PPLES LIFE WITH THIS ANIMALS CALLED LASTMA, GOD WILL WITHOUT FAIL BRING HIS DELUGE UPON THEIR GENERATION SOON.
JUST WAIT AND SEE, IT IS A MATTER OF TIME. AFTER THESE TOUTS DEDUCT ALMOST 60K TAX FROM MY GROSS SALARY, THEY STILL WENT AHEAH AND INTRODUCE FAKE 419 TOL GATE AND PPLE ARE FRUSTRATED THAT THEY COULD NOT TALK AGAIN. GOD WILL SOON TALK. GOD MUST HELP US TO ELIMINATE THESE ANIMALS CALL MAN.

@ eazy-e
Just keep waiting for my yes or no answer. You will need to first get yes or no from jesus first before u talk to me. I can see that I need not talk on this forum again. I like talking to people who needs the truth. Ifyebere you are not in love with any JW girl, you are just here to ridicule yourself not jw. This forum is for apostates. You can never help them.you all revember the sons of disobedience during NOAH's time.

@ teeowl Re: A Jehovah Witness Dating A Non Witness, I'm Emotionally Trapped, We Both In Love by teeowl(m): 9:25pm On Dec 22
@ibukun obi: If a man accepts Jesus as his lord and savior and lives according to the bible principles BUT does not join the Jehovah Witness Church, is he going to hell because he never identified with the JW fold?....

Pleas do answer... This is the question that I have always wanted to ask a Jehovah Witness Member?...
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You have a very good question, but let me first tell you some of the things that complicated your question, no where is it mentioned in the bible that non righteous person is going to hell. Rev 20 vs 13,14 tells us that the dead and the dead in hell were casted into lake of fire. Hell is grave(read diff version of the bible first then you will uderstand this hidden truth)
Second, rev 18 vs 4 tells us to get out of babylon the great(world empire of false religion). What u guys don't know is religion today is forming harlotship partnership with corrupt political powers of this world, that is why they are very influention, revelation has prophesy this long ago. This scriptures says this truth will only be revealed to babes and comon pple in the society. So if you do now want to share part of her plague, if you do not want a bad association to spoit your good habit, the bible says get out of it my poeple.
Remember also that God has always been dealing with one spirit directed organization, take for example God choose the nation of israel as his pple that survived the Red sea, he does not tolerate double standard from them, God worked with only noah and his family alone,why did he do that. The same God is saying just as it happened in noah's day, so the coming of the son of man will be. Let our mind eyes tell us what that means. Read this prophecy in Dan 2 vs 44 and rev 17 vs 10. This is what pastors don't have its understanding
The world is comming to an end soon and it will destroy babylon the great first, the world empire.of false religion because they have failed. I don't waant u to be part of it because I appreciate your quest to know more. Thank u

@ ifyebere. U talking trash, is thiteing not in the bible, or is it a sin to pay ur tithe, no pastor has convinced u, u nover Jam, Jw i see dem as occultic people... pls make good research on ur existence (JW) u'l know innocent lives av gone all cos of blood transfussion, ur leaders nd elders re misleading u people big time.
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Based on your comments above I can understant how u have wrongly perceived JW. Let me tell you, the world we live is evil, all the google stories you read about Jw are false stories to assasinate JW name, at a time I almost believe them, untill my research fortunately landed me with the whole truth about them. I read one day where these evil pple even said that Pastor CT rusell was burried with a mason logo, I was shoked at the beggining untill I found the material to explain the truth that Rusel died and was burried in oct 1916, that logo was errected in 1922, three ggraves far away from rusells grave, pple now take a far away picture of rusell's grave and claim he was a member of fre mason, pls do this research on your own and find out, the world records of mason members never indicated his name as a member.
I must advice you a regards the source of your research materials, you have been reading storied cooked up by clergies of christendom churches against rusell. If you want to know more about rusell, just contact www.watchtower.org or www.jw.org
This man rusell is been terrorised by the catholics clergies because he was one of the first pple to expose catholics lies about hell, purgatory, imortality of the soul,and others. This truth were hidden by catholics for over 1400 years, them if u are not a clergy you can't open it, it is a purnishable sin. Today you are ready false story about him, be careful, don't die of ignorance

You guys have missed it completely about Jw. No one says you will not make heaven if you don't marry from your own denomination, but remember israelites were asked to stay clear from marrying another tribe back then why becos of contamination, a bad friend spoils useful habits, the mentality of other denominations is totally worldly, its like comparing a child from dirty public school to that from rich well trained private schools, there will be contamination and that could affect her spirituality, I am not trying to persuade any one to join Jw, but am convinced that jw is the only religion that has not failed. This is because we do not steal,kill, bribe or join politics. As long as u do these things and your religion tells u it is right, then u are heading downhill just as the great crowd of false religion mentioned in the bible as BABylon the great(all empires of false religion). Rev 18:4 says get out of her my people, if u do not want to share out of her plague. Remember JW do not need your THITES. Tell me why we will not be able to tell u the truth. One of you in the forum is been brainwashed that all righteous will make heaven. Please that is not true, read 2peter 3:13 and mattew 5:3,5. Please devote your time for spiritual things just the way you do for accademics, then no pastors will confuse u. I teach them in my office. I repeat no redeem pastors can stand me my I talk say about tithes or hell matters, they keep quiet

Bros, you are in a forum where the wrong people make comments, pls try and meet the wise ones for proper counselling. Sentiment apart, this girl has seen the truth about God that u do not know, jw is so so organized that if she leaves there for penticostal, she will never find joy in her life again, am sorry, the sad truth is churches have failed today but Jw don't compromise their standards as set out in the bible. God told abraham to listen to his wife on one such occassion and it paid off.
I will enjoin you as a brother to listen to that girl, you are just a few miles away from GOd's tent

in the first place, who told you that all righteous people will go to heaven. Try and read your bible well, don't be deceived by these pastors. 2peter 3:13, matt. 5:3,5, rev 14:1-5

my problem with that man is just the introduction of those thieves called LASTMA.It is babaric

The man in question is a contract staff with Total exploration and production, an oil company. This man is well fed by total. We are living in the ends of time.

i can assure you that all MOBIL Stations along lekki does this and some AP FILING station

i hope PRINCE ABUBAKAR AUDU hears this.
this man terorise kogi state during his own time as the only civilian dictator
the only GABAIDU for that matter.
The most irritating EDUCATED ILLITRATE kogi has ever had
the only idiots that sees himself as above everyone
the only thief that was never jailed but praised in his own time
i have nothing but a curse for him
and the curse is, let him reap just 10 percent of what he sowed during his time in kogi state.

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PHCN Just took the light in my compound now while i was hoping to see if they can make it one week for me, they were 12 hours close to seven days. I would have celebrated it.Anyway i wish it can continue like this, then i will not be angry to pay their bills, i spent minimum of 700 naira fuel every day.Now this people have saved like 4000 naira for me. This is going to be the first positive thing i have seen in this country since say 20 years back. I just wish to express my joy because if this can be evenly shared in all part of this country, come what may, the economy will grow...

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Regards
Ibukun

I am exceedigly glad thatMikel will continue to shame all his manu and arsenal enemies on this post. Most of these people complaining are enemies of progress. Envy has frustrated their lives. By God's power this young innocent boy will continue to prosper. Ask these BASTARD anti MIKEL what they have done for this country other than kidnapping and yahoo yahoo. Enemies of progress. Am sure they will not be able to sleep when this guy won that cup that the so called selfish jj okocha could not win. Let me tell u. Mikel still has 8 active years to play good footbal. Thank GOd he is not part of your national teal failure at the world cup and under keshi despite the fact that you ingrate failed to see his impact when he qualifies u for d last world cup.these set of nigerians are frustrated anti progress who kept complaining everytime as if they are better. To hell with u anti mikel.

@amosy007 and @austine.E. I want to thank you all for your abusive comments over my much and centuries long disregarded observation. Remember,Daniel was a nobody in babylon until belchazar had a problem interpreting an inscription on the wall. Everything you see today is a prophesy fulfiled. Am sorry to tell you this fact, I have interracted with many pastor and I. Feel sorry they have missed the line, members have been misguided over centuries ago.I will never be surprised if you insult me. I can see your problem, laziness is one,second is you don't even read from the original manuscript of the bible, all u believe is your pastors who graduated from institutions that missed the sylabus to know that true christians look towards the life after while the majority(uninformed christians) look unto prosperity now. Those who would prefer to share half of their fortune with a trained sugarcoated mouth pastor just because the pastor prayed that you will buy a geep this year either by stealing.day light robers

You guys are just too harsh on 080itc, that is why we all deviated from the truth to the extent that we allowed this wounded lion from d north to introduce bombing. Guys when we are sentimental,we may not get to know the reason why these happen to us. Most christians churches are not organised, when a religion leader deceive his members for riches, the northerner considers it as a crime that deserves serious purnishment.today church goers are not good example to the society. First, noise making crusades,night vigils, parading tv just to promote false miracles are pure signs of devil acting as angel of light, but the northerners do not know how to channel their differences wt church members. Tithe beneficiares are therichest pple today which is not how christian focus should be.

MR@991:
The answer is very simple and it goes like this,

'Give a man fish, you feed him for a day,
Teach him how to catch fish, he will feed himself for a life-time
Give him religion, he will starve to death while praying for fish.

WHERE YOU GUYS ARE MISSING IT THIS, JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES IS THE ONLY RELIGION THAT HAS A DETAIL ANSWERS TO ATHEISTS QUESTIONS
I INTRODUCED A BOOK PUBLISHED BY JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES "HOW DID WE GET HERE? BY EVOLUTION OR BY CREATION" TO ONE OF MY BOSS IN SOUTH AFRICA, THIS MAN IS A PURE DAWNIST(CHURCH OF DOWNISM)
THE BOOK ANSWERS IT ALL, JUST MEET ANY OF THEM, THEY ARE AROUND YOUR HOUSE THERE, THEY WILL GIVE YOU THE BOOK OR GO TO www.watchtower.org
ANOTHER THING THAT PROMPTED THE OWNER OF THIS PAGE TO OPEN THIS TALK IS PROBABLY RELIGION HAS FAILED PEOPLE IN MANY WAYS, I REALLY UNDERSTAND HIS PLIGHT, BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS ILLUSTRATED IN JESUS PARABLE OF THE WEEDS AND THE WHEATS. RELIGIOUS LEADERS IS COMMITTING ADULTERY WITH POLITICAL LEADERS OF THE WORLD, THEREBY SERVING AS BAD EXAMPLE FOR THEIR MEMBERS. THIS SITUATION WAS LONG PROPHESIED IN REVELATION.
JUST FEW PPLE KNOWS THAT THERE IS NO RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN CHRISTIANITY AND POLITICS OF THIS WICKED WORLD, JEHOVAHS WITNESSES KNOWS THIS FOR OVER 100 YEARS AGO AND THAT IS WHY THEY TRY TO HEED TO JESUS WARNING "YOU ARE NO PART OF THE WORLD"
RELIGIOUS LEADERS TODAY ARE DICTATORS WHO HAVE DEVIATED FROM THE BIBLE TRUTH IN THEIR EXPANATION OF CERTAIN DECISIONS IN POLITICAL WORLD THAT MAY BE AT LOGGERHEADS WITH THE BIBLE TRUTH.
I CAN ONLY BRIEF YOU GUYS ABOUT WHAT YOU DONT KNOW, VERY FEW PEOPLE COME OUT TO TELL THIS FACT AM TALKING ABOUT, FOR MORE INFORMATION JUST CALL ON ANY OF OUR MEMBERS AROUND YOUR HOUSE, THEY WILL BE READY TO HELP YOU. IF YOU ARE TRYING TO JUDGE CHRISTIANITY BASED ON WHAT THE CHRISTIAN MAJORITY THAT HOLDS THE RELIGIOUS AND POLITICAL POWER IS DOING TODAY, YOU MAY END UP TAKING A WRONG DECISION.

At least this could render some pastors jobless this troublesome winter periods like this. Apostle paul was a tent maker during his own time he never depended on what comes out from the congregations. I wonder what those parasites will be doing during this period, anyway they could organize some shepherding visits and prayer.

Let us consolidate our states. This is simple.

@bestview
am really dissapointed you guys in Lagos and the entire yoruba's dont like travelling out of western nigeria. This is another lack of awarenes on your own part.Please endeavour to travel to a place in KOGI EAST(IGALA LAND), go to a vilage called "ABOCHO OR aBEJUKOLO, or okenya vilage" This is just Kogi, you may go Adamawa state.
I have seen schools there half fenced and with no roof, this is where you will see a 20 year old beautiful girl who will not cover her breast, she only manage to wear pants.
Please go and travel to places first b4 you open a page here.

am too refined to be deceived by you and your jettage

@jettage
I am just so dissapointed at the comments from jettage.
He clearly shows he is a typical Nigerian
You see, there is something wrong with our brought up in this country, and I think, culture, poverty, religion attachments, pastors who deceive to gain prominence, weather really took a larger part of our problem.
Infact education can never solve the kind of problem pple like jettage has.
During the time of saul, i was made to understand how the devil works, the devil can take ownership of the appearance of a person and use it elsewhere or make pple feel the dead person reapears. we have to be careful in our interpretation of such situations. It is not the person in question that was actually a witch, there could be some supernatural power interfeering unknowingly.This because the bible confirms that satan is the God if this system of things because he was hurled down to the earth. Rev;12 7-12.
But the book of jude read it to verse 10, there says some pple has slipped in to Gods congregation taking the undeserved kindness of our God as an excuse for loose conduct, we are warned to beware. These pple are the common pastors today who exploits the weakness of their members as an opportunity to initiate false testimony just to deceive their members that someone has witch craft. we are warned to desist from false pple like that.

@donnie
The person I pittied most is donnie.
He has been brain washed, am 100 percent sure, his problem is his spiritual backgroud.
Except Jesus and his disciple or apostles who perform miracles in the past which the did for a purpose, no one again can perform miracle directed by the true God.
Jesus perform miracles for 2 reasons, to show the pple back then that he was God only begotten son, second to tell the whole world that miracle of a greater scale will be performed during resurection day.
Today pple perform miracle because of their personal self exaltation, they use fetish means to deceive pple, they could no longer cajole the whites, all they could do is come to africa and deceive my brothers.
My Bible says 'whether there are gift of prophesying they shall be done away with, whether there are gift of healing, they will be done away with'
Does pple read these scriptures at all?
All what the pastors will tell then is 'if you believe Jesus you will do greater things than he did'
The greater things mentined here is to PREACH THE GOOD NEWS OF GODS KINKDOM TO THE MOST DISTANT PART OF THE EARTH AND NOT TO CAJOLE POOR PPLE ABOUT. Let us open out eyes. This is a command for everyone read MATT 28:19,20, it says 'Go therefore and make disciples, teaching and baptising them, ' So how do you teach if you dont preach/ please tell me.
Am happy pple today have open their eyes compare to past ten years where these pastors deceive us
Non of them will ever use the poor men tithe money to build a UNIVERSITY and allow the same poor men's childred to go there

@lagosShia
You may open one subject for discussion

please give us a subject to discuss.

A Brief History of Hellfire
WHEN did professed Christians adopt the belief in hellfire? Well after the time of Jesus Christ and his apostles. "The Apocalypse of Peter (2nd century C.E.) was the first [apocryphal] Christian work to describe the punishment and tortures of sinners in hell," states the French Encyclopædia Universalis.


Justin Martyr believed that hell was a fiery place
Among the early Church Fathers, however, there was disagreement over hell. Justin Martyr, Clement of Alexandria, Tertullian, and Cyprian believed that hell was a fiery place. Origen and theologian Gregory of Nyssa thought of hell as a place of separation from God—of spiritual suffering. Augustine of Hippo, on the other hand, held that suffering in hell was both spiritual and sensory—a view that gained acceptance. "By the fifth century the stern doctrine that sinners will have no second chance after this life and that the fire which will devour them will never be extinguished was everywhere paramount," wrote Professor J.N.D. Kelly.


Augustine of Hippo taught that suffering in hell was spiritual and physical
In the 16th century, such Protestant reformers as Martin Luther and John Calvin understood the fiery torment of hell to be figurative of spending eternity separated from God. However, the idea of hell as a place of torment returned in the following two centuries. Protestant preacher Jonathan Edwards used to strike fear in the hearts of 18th-century Colonial Americans with graphic portrayals of hell.

Shortly thereafter, though, the flames of hell began to flicker and fade. "The 20th century was nearly the death of hell," states U.S.News & World Report.

What Has Happened to Hellfire?
WHAT image does the word "hell" conjure up in your mind? Do you see hell as a literal place of fire and brimstone, of unending torment and anguish? Or is hell perhaps a symbolic description of a condition, a state?

For centuries, a fiery hell of excruciating torments has been envisioned by religious leaders of Christendom as the certain destiny for sinners. This idea is still popular among many other religious groups. "Christianity may have made hell a household word," says U.S.News & World Report, "but it doesn't hold a monopoly on the doctrine. The threat of painful retribution in the afterlife has counterparts in nearly every major world religion and in some minor ones as well." Hindus, Buddhists, Muslims, Jains, and Taoists believe in a hell of one sort or another.

Hell, though, has acquired another image in modern thinking. "While the traditional infernal imagery still attracts a following," states the aforementioned magazine, "modern visions of eternal perdition as a particularly unpleasant solitary confinement are beginning to emerge, suggesting that hell may not be so hot after all."

The Jesuit journal La Civiltà Cattolica observed: "It is misleading . . . to think that God, by means of demons, inflicts fearful torments on the damned like that of fire." It added: "Hell exists, not as a place but as a state, a way of being of the person who suffers the pain of the deprivation of God." Pope John Paul II said in 1999: "Rather than a place, hell indicates the state of those who freely and definitively separate themselves from God, the source of all life and joy." As to the images of hell as a fiery place, he said: "They show the complete frustration and emptiness of life without God." Had the pope described hell in terms of "flames and a red-suited devil with a pitchfork," church historian Martin Marty said, "people wouldn't take it seriously."

Similar changes are taking place in other denominations. A report by the doctrine commission of the Church of England said: "Hell is not eternal torment, but it is the final and irrevocable choosing of that which is opposed to God so completely and so absolutely that the only end is total non-being."

The catechism of the United States Episcopal Church defines hell as "eternal death in our rejection of God." A growing number of people, says U.S.News & World Report, are promoting the idea that "the end of the wicked is destruction, not eternal suffering. . . . [They] contend that those who ultimately reject God will simply be put out of existence in the 'consuming fire' of hell."

Although the modern-day trend is to get away from the fire and brimstone mentality, many continue to adhere to the belief that hell is a literal place of torment. "Scripture clearly speaks of hell as a physical place of fiery torment," says Albert Mohler of the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky, U.S.A. And the report The Nature of Hell, prepared by the Evangelical Alliance Commission, states: "Hell is a conscious experience of rejection and torment." It adds: "There are degrees of punishment and suffering in hell related to the severity of sins committed on earth."