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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 8:02am On Jan 01, 2023
Happy new year! May 2023 be a prosperous year for us all.

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 11:18am On Dec 20, 2022
universal100:
Good morning guys. I have a question, I’m 20years old, male, in my 200level and I’m planning to go for a bachelor degree in Ireland and I have just €50,000 for my studies, will it be enough?

The stated amount is enough , however you will need proof of how you came about the funds and if the source of the funds is sustainable to support you till the end of your program
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 4:17am On Dec 16, 2022
Hello everyone, wishing you all a Merry Christmas and Happy holidays in Advance.

Please let us know which content you will like to see more for 2023 or Topics you will want us to cover more ?

We look forward to your response and feedbacks!

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 11:13pm On Dec 14, 2022
voltred:
Hello Guys, quick question, please what is the average cost of living monthly in Ireland based on current trends, housing, feeding, transportation etc

Can someone help @Icasng do you have an idea

depends on your location and lifestyle : Outside Dublin , Cork and Limerick areas will be 500 to 700 euros per month including rent and feeding

Within Dublin , Cork and Limerick - from 700 euros per month.

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 8:21pm On Dec 13, 2022
ICaSNg:
UPDATES ON CHANGES TO TEACHER RECRUITMENT REQUIREMENTS FROM THE UKVI----

PLEASE NOTE, This applies to the United kingdom not Republic of Ireland. I want to post here cos it may be beneficial to some people.

All the best !

Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 8:20pm On Dec 13, 2022
UPDATES ON CHANGES TO TEACHER RECRUITMENT REQUIREMENTS FROM THE UKVI----

PLEASE NOTE, This applies to the United kingdom not Republic of Ireland. I wanted to post here cos it may be beneficial to some people.

All the best !

Please note I meant TRCN not TRN for the Teachers license issued in Nigeria!

Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 3:02pm On Dec 08, 2022
walegon:
Hello guys. Please is a covid test required to travel to Dublin via British Airways

UK visa is needed not covid test
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 11:09am On Dec 02, 2022
Successapa:
Hello. Is it too late to apply for visa on Monday 5th of December. My resumption is on the 23rd of January 2023.

Go ahead and submit your application once you have all your documents ready. You may get a positive decision even before some who submitted earlier than you.

All the best
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 6:31pm On Nov 30, 2022
chibjohn:

Please which exchange rate do they use for this? CBN or Black market?

OANDA
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 4:09pm On Nov 28, 2022
EFFECTIVE 1ST JULY, PROOF OF LIVING EXPENSES FOR THE REPUBLIC OF IRELAND WILL BE 10,000 EUROS .

i.e : it will be changing from 7,000 euros to 10,000 euros

All the best guys !
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 4:18am On Nov 27, 2022
Mariamaudu15:
Good evening everyone, please I need guidance, am thinking of defaring my admission because my school fees is still being processed in the bank, and school resumes January 16th, am not sure I can meet up the first semester. Now my question is can I defare a semester or it has to be a full session. Please advice me . Thank you

Deferral means- deferring till the next academic calendar entry period which is Sept'23
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 4:17am On Nov 27, 2022
Philomena15:
Hello everyone, please I just got an admission at Dorset College. Is it late to pay my fees and apply for visa for January intake? The program is starts on 16th January, 2023. Also, is Duolingo an accepted English requirement for visa? Please reply, thanks �
Cc: @ICaSNg pls help

I think you have only about 6 weeks excluding holiday periods. It is also worthwhile to note that Dorset has strict resumption dates and you probably may only have 1-2 weeks grace period to join classes after the specified resumption date. I.e you must be in Ireland latest 22nd of Jan, 2023. How you sort things out now depends on you.
Travel / Re: Adventure In Ireland by ICaSNg(f): 6:14am On Nov 06, 2022
completed:
Please I need a cheap school for Sept next year intake in Ireland �� to study MSc Finance. Please my people I need your assistance

NCI
SETU-WIT
MTU-CORK

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 6:13am On Nov 06, 2022
oluwaVaz:
i have been trying to pay with my ATM card but its not going through, how do I make the payment for medical insurance..

USD Visa or mastercard
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 3:48pm On Nov 03, 2022
oluwaVaz:
How do I get medical insurance,should I use the Ireland link on my admission letter or source for any local health insurance, I'm confused, someone should help ..(.asking for a friend)
studyandprotect.com - medicover standard
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 12:26am On Oct 29, 2022
TwentiesGirl:
Guys, I need some advise.

I have two options for sponsorship, my family account and my sister.
Both have enough funds to cover my expenses but I don't know which will be better to show or if I should use both.
The family account is in Naira and has the name of three of my eldest siblings (but all ending with the same surname) while my sister's account is in USD (she lives in America)

Which proof of relationship is easier to present with original legal documents?
who will be paying your tuition?
which of the parties have substantial and sustainable proof of employment and income?
who can present very clean 6 months bank statement and can provide proof of every lump sum that has entered the account in the last 6 months

The above determines who should sponsor you.

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 10:28am On Oct 28, 2022
Laisirepublic:
Pls anybody in Abuja who can confirm this ...DHl was telling me Ireland embassy is closed and they cannot do the delivery of my appeal, that it wud be done when the embassy is opened! Just wanna confirm how true is dis!

True, Western Countries taking their staff out of Abuja due to Terror Alert. VFS Closed for next week I heard not sure about Lagos VFS though.
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 6:43pm On Oct 21, 2022
Prosper123:

Please someone should help me answer the question. I don't need the ones asking me for my number for personal messages.

Do you have your critical work approval ? Because the English test requirement is not just for the embassy , its part of the requirement to get all required government documentation required before you submit an application in Nigeria.

If you can, retake the IELTS exam or speak to the Employer sponsoring your permit if you can go ahead to submit your application
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 10:15pm On Oct 18, 2022
Points to note based on semmyk's response:

1. However, you must declare the refusal and articulate how your circumstances has changed and why/how this study is beneficial/critical to your career going forward.

2. if you can afford it, rather opt for the UK study. You should get uni that'll take you on for Masters? (easier if you have a PGD or just opt for a 1 year top up since you get 2 years post study work permit same as master students)You just need to search

3. I think I responded yesterday to a similar question about potential applicants who have partners or spouse in Ireland and considering going for further studies in Ireland; while this is not impossible it is a bit challenging based on the applicant circumstances on why their spouse is not inviting them through the family reunification route.
One of the reasons this is tricky is because students are not meant to give birth during studies in IRELAND- More importantly if the child's birth affects your studies in anyway.

I hope all works out well for you.


semmyk:
I trust ICaSNG will do justice to this; her experience and consulting.
Few things from my side.
What you've raised here is #golden. You are assisting a lot with their future plan/application. Once more thanks. Why do I say so.
Ireland has the short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa. This is meant for going on holidays just like people jet off to Dubai for two weeks holiday or UK or US on hold (typically Summer hols). From your narrative, this 8s what you applied for in 2019. I might be wrong though. In anyway, this is not about 'speaking' to you. Pls, I'm just talking generally.
Now, within short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa there is another sub-category, the short stay ‘C’ visit (family/friend) visa. For those that want to visit their loved ones, but are not intending to relocate to join them fully, what is expected is the short stay ‘C’ visit (family/friend) visa and not short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa.
Why is this important. If for instance, a person apply strictly for short stay ‘C’ visit (tourist) visa and did not disclosed that they have family resident in Ireland, should the VO gets to know by chance or anyhow, then the application can be deem false presentence!. By now, we all know what the outcome will be. That is if it did not even include the 5yrs ban!
There's a limit to what I can put on public online post. However, let me codely speak from personal. Some years back, actually some decades, I wanted to visit Ireland for 2wks within my annual leave. Put in the application. Till date, Abuja doesn't have outcome for my application with reference. I held on to the ref and email correspondence of my enquires. Fast forward, about 8 or 9 yrs after, I wanted to go to Ireland for the Easter break. This time across the isle from UK. Emailed them Abuja and Dublin, they said they can't trace. Dilemma 1
Well, went to their office in London.
For this visit, my brother is in Ireland, however, I wanted to surprise him. Dilemma 2
I just told the VO, I had this situation years back (the dilemma 1) and that I'm aware I have a brother in Ireland, but this visit is me going for few days (practically for the long weekend just like any one will take Eurostar to cross the canal and come back) and within the visit, I'll give my brother w surprise visit. I was emphatic on the surprise visit aspect. Long story short, visa granted. I've been in and out of Ireland even from other countries.

Just be transparent as much as you can. No need embellishing.
Kindly note, Ireland has a category for dependent: join family. The non-EEA Category A and some Category B (the one applicable to students is restricted to PhD students) Yep, it takes months!!
www.irishimmigration.ie/coming-to-join-family-in-ireland/joining-a-non-eea-non-swiss-national/

Regarding your current plan
1. I do not think you need to revisit your earlier refusal. Let is stay in the past it belong. IMHO, no need passing the buck as in casting the agent. You might just score a own goal! However, you must declare the refusal and articulate how your circumstances has changed and why/how this study is beneficial/critical to your career going forward. Kindly take note of ICaSNG valuable inputs (her addition to my earlier post). It's essential in your case given the earlier refusal was for visit and not study.
2. My opinion will be, if you can afford it, rather opt for the UK study. You should get uni that'll take you on for Masters? You just need to search. Nonetheless, the 'noise', the Suella and the possible PSW changes.
As you rightly stated, you and your hubby can meet frequently in the UK. With time, you might be able to get visa to go over.
3. Regarding the HND lower credit, with diligent search, you should get. More so, if you articulate on your work experiences. For this, go for uni that consider/offer RPL: Recognition of Prior Learning (some might have different terminology). With that said, have you considered doing a conversion course in 9ja b4 proceeding to UK/Ireland
4. Regarding strong ties, I'm not in a position to speak to that.
PS: this is not a binding opinion construed as a legal opinion

Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 10:05pm On Oct 18, 2022
Chinar:
Hi @ICasNG. So I applied for my Irish study visa yesterday. Here’s my story, I started an ug program in Economics in a private Uni in Nigeria but didn’t graduate because I couldn’t meet up with the needed grades from graduating and so I took a break from my education to try to gain some work experience before going back to school. I got a job at a business firm and worked for 2 years until COVID. After I left, I continued to develop my self and talent as I attended a tech program where I was given certificate of participation and I continued developing my talent in music until I decided to go back to school. I’m 28 now and just got billed to start a Bachelors program in Business at the Dublin Business School in January with my fees fully paid by my sponsor who is my brother (who works and resides in the UK with a good financial standing). Do you think my case is strong enough to be issued a study visa to Ireland regardless of my gap?

Your application has been submitted. Please pray and just be hopefully that the visa will be granted.
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 10:02pm On Oct 16, 2022
semmyk:
The 'answer' is in your appeal refusal (read with your visa refusal).
Using edubond does not absolves you providing good intent to study and explain flow of funds for 6 mths (bank statements). What edubond does is to limit/curtailed the degree of intruding into your (financial) privacy (and that of your sponsor) or make it easier for you not to require a sponsor.
Kindly bear in mind that the VO (whether Ireland, UK, US, Canada or any other) are fully aware of PoF as a business in 9ja!
The key thing one can see/read from these two letters is that you did not do the needful to succinctly explain your incomes for the six months period. Also, it is apparent that you seemly make large sum deposit close to your visa application. This you did not explain until when you were appealing. Even at that, by that time, you merely glossed over things. The VO took cognisance of this and came to your 'rescue' in a way: ... various side hustles...
Since you intend applying again in Feb,
- Make steady inflow in and out of your intended account.
- Still use edubond (I guess you can leave the current one till then which will show your 'capability' to fund)
- write your statement of interest in simple way of; why you want to study, why the course, what you will do with the course when you get back to 9ja, how the course will assist your career (or business,) going forward.
- include (disclose) and explain how your circumstances has 'improve' from this refusal.
NB: you didn't tell us what this course is. However, if for instance it's Masters, you don't start staying you will stay back in Ireland to look around for doctorate. I say this because the VO keeps repeating ... type of visa is for limited duration .... So I guess your statement might not be clear on ... what's next after your current study that you're applying visa for. PS: ICaSNG might assist with guidance on this: like if going for Masters, to indicate if you'll be looking for doctorate post the masters in Ireland. My gut feeling is, it's red flag.

There are other things one can pick, but the above might be the 'deal breaker'
As regarding the I added more documents too, it appears the VO considered them in good faith and did not raise issues with most of them again.
To us all, I'll say, always provide essential documentations requested/needed. Do not focus on one area only, neglecting the others. Most times, focus is on balance of funds!!! Rather, focus should be on ALL on the checklist.

[update] I've noted ICaSNG reply to you. Kindly pay attention to it.

She also seems to allude to UG and not PG. If so, it makes the VO refusal more clearer. All the best in Feb.

You've covered 80% of what could have gone wrong based on the refusal letter. I guess she needs to speak to her school or Agent assigned to him or her.
Some other underlying factors may not be totally covered in the refusal letter e.g. I've seen students with BSc 2:2 from a science discipline applying for a 2 year BSc top up in Business ; which is absolutely ridiculous and this definitely has led to refusal for some students.

Finally, as you rightly stated, when going for any program either UG or PG, your future aspiration should be linked to Nigeria- this is not just for Ireland, for any country a student intends applying to for further studies, your future aspirations should be well defined on how the intended study will add value to your home country .

So while applying for a visa for a masters program, stating you intend proceeding for PhD IS TOTALLY A RED FLAG exception to MPhil students.
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 9:50pm On Oct 16, 2022
Toodirty:
Hello trust you are doing great please I would appreciate if you can shed more light concerning my following questions as I am still a novice concerning the Ireland study routine

1) Is it possible to use a third party as sponsor .. after all fees have been paid I.e uncle , family friend etc different names

2) just asking to know if it’s the same procedure like canada
If an applicant plans to go for sept 2023 intake is it possible to put in an earlier application so the visa comes out early or it has to be 3 months before program start I.e for a September2023 admission the applicant apply for visa like Jan / feb or March 2023
Or it has be around June 2023?




I've responded to your email but also for others to learn, I will emphasize on the following:

1. Valid proof of relationship to any sponsor is required e.g. A student being sponsored by a sibling must provide his birth certificate and Sponsor's birth certificate- both certs must show they both share the same parents or at least 1 parents if step-siblings.
2. For UG applicants using a sponsor or self sponsored, POF analysis by the VO is not based on Edu bond or closing amount in Bank account but rather on either you or your sponsor having sustainable proof of Employment and Income- I've had students how showed 25m in their Sponsor's account but sponsor is retired and earns less than 70,000 in pensions; In such cases or similar cases the application was refused.

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 5:39pm On Oct 15, 2022
sewenbigboi:

Plss I need an answer to this question
I was given a 5yrs babe for irish application because of a fake document an agent made for me
I wanted to apply for UK student visa now
Someone hint me that both UK and Irish work together
That I won’t be approved for a visa because of the Irish ban
How true is that ?

True both countries share Data. You can apply to the UK but will need to ensure the following:

If you intend going for a 1 year PG program- pay full tuition and ensure you have a verifiable proof of employment that establishes that you can afford to study in the UK , a verifiable and genuine bank statement in your name or your parents with the required amount needed as POF, proof that you will not breach the travel agreement between the UK and Republic o Ireland
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 4:03am On Oct 14, 2022
The refusal letter is not making reference to the amount you have but making reference to areas you did not address in details :

1. Where you paid your tuition from i.e Bank account and how you came about the funds
2. Proof of all employment or Gap periods from after SSCE till date

Like I've always emphasized, Education bond does not necessarily make a difference if your application is not convincing enough.


mar4real:
Hello Everyone,

Please I need your advice.

My VISA was refused due to insufficient funds amigst others. I paid the school fees in full, also paid for bond but I had roughly #1M as at when I applied. Upon refusal, I sold my car and everything sum up to over #2. 5 when I appealed. I added more documents too but I was still denied base on same reason.

I'm currently processing another school for February intake but I do not know what to do differently in terms of visa application.

I have attached both refusal letters.

Please help.

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 3:50pm On Oct 11, 2022
MsAdamah:
Good day everyone. Please I want to confirm if it’s important for my sponsor to submit his international passport as one of the supporting documents for visa application. Because right now, his passport has expired and Lagos is fully booked till November.

Any Government approved ID is acceptable
Travel / Re: Adventure In Ireland by ICaSNg(f): 2:07pm On Oct 10, 2022
Dpiano:
Please who knows about Holmes institute Dublin and is the school accredited??an agent sent me their admission offer...he wants me to pay my school fees through him..I don't know much about Ireland..anyone who can help with helpful information...I would be grateful

The school is genuine but a new school- they started last year in Dublin and only currently offering Undergraduate programs in Business.

Back to your question, either for Ireland or any country you should never pay tuition through an agent please.

So much can go wrong - e.g: if your visa is refused, the refund will be made only to the person or account that paid the tuition and such can abscond with your funds.

For Ireland, visa application requires you present the bank statement where your tuition was paid from and relationship to the person who made the payment- Relationship between a student and Agent is not acceptable by the Embassy and will lead to a refusal.

I have the contact of the In-Country rep for this school, kindly share the Agents name so I can report him to those who registered him as an Agent as this is totally unacceptable .

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 11:32pm On Oct 04, 2022
Laisirepublic:
Please house is it compulsory one get a lawyer for appeal or one should just reappeal and sent the documents required alone

You don't need a lawyer to appeal an Irish refusal-

Address all points raised comprehensively with detailed and genuine supporting documents and ADD LOTS OF PRAYERS
Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 12:15am On Oct 04, 2022
Untube:

I actually want to find out how to pay edubond via form A and documents to submit. Thanks for your time, and have sent you a DM as well..lol

Edubond transactions is similar to the same process taken when paying Tuition.

This is however the challenge, 15months ago one would walk into a Nigerian bank and request for Form A, now that is not the case. You need to request for Form A using the CBN Monitoring trade system only when this is approved then you can walk into the bank you stated in the online application and complete the FORM A request.

Before the new CBN regulations of making Form A complicated, FBN and UBA would process this within a short period of time (I mean EduBond).
The Challenge now is getting the form A approved through CBN trade monitoring website first and then hope the bank you stated on records where you have the funds will be able to process this transaction promptly.

As a trained Visa consultant, Edubond does not necessarily make your application stronger as people precise - since you will still be required to present 3- 6months bank statement of where you paid your Tuition, proof of income , 6 months Personal bank statement of both yourself and your Sponsor (if using a sponsor), explanation and proof of all lump sum IN and OUT of of all bank statements presented etc.

I will advise that unless you have had a previous visa refusal or BAN and the reasons are tied to finance , its not really worth going through the Education Bond route if you can provide detailed financial bank statements and genuine means of income.


I hope this helps !

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Travel / Re: GENERAL Irish (student)visa & Work Permit-New THREAD*** by ICaSNg(f): 12:06am On Oct 04, 2022
Laisirepublic:
Pls house i need an urgent reply to this from expert in the house please
within 3 -7 working days

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