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TheGoodJoe:
For a player to be tagged World Class, the player has to be performing at the highest level for at least 10 years.

Most of this players tagged World Class are top quality players, not World class.

Even Van Dijk isn't. He is a top quality player. If he continues with this form for at least a decade, then we can tag him and the others World class.

Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ribery, Robben etc. Players who dominated the game for a decade or more. That is playing at the highest level for a long time.

With this, Aubameyang and the others are not World Class players. Certainly, top quality.

When you say a facility is "world Class" what does it mean?

TheGoodJoe:
For a player to be tagged World Class, the player has to be performing at the highest level for at least 10 years.

Most of this players tagged World Class are top quality players, not World class.

Even Van Dijk isn't. He is a top quality player. If he continues with this form for at least a decade, then we can tag him and the others World class.

Xavi, Iniesta, Messi, Cristiano Ronaldo, Xabi Alonso, Ribery, Robben etc. Players who dominated the game for a decade or more. That is playing at the highest level for a long time.

With this, Aubameyang and the others are not World Class players. Certainly, top quality.

For at least 10 years?

Meaning Mbappe, Neymer, Mane, Hazard, Salah and co are not world class abi?

So?

Will he lie down before?

Oasis007:
Sodje is right. Nothing is spectacular in Rohr's tactics and style of play. It's more than huffing Ball up and down, hoping to pounce on a loose Ball based on Luck, rather working for it.

If indigenous Coaches had the same backing as Rohr, they would have delivered, but this is Nigeria - where don't value our own.

Oliseh managed a Club, to some extent, successfully. Late Keshi managed two national Teams apart from Nigeria, successfully with records breaking.

Siasia had top-class instincts with the U23 and U20 national Teams respectively. Amuneke is doing outstandingly well with Tanzania national Teams. Manu is unraveling Talents hidden in the country - yet we keep saying indigenous Coaches ain't good enough for the National Teams.

Back the indigenous Coaches, and the rest shall be history - coz they would deliver, entertaining, good football with trophies and medals.

Indegenous coaches wetin? Shay na that rubbish wey Oliseh do? What of Siasia and his rubbish choice of players? Nigerian coaches have proven that they are not good team managers. Rohr has so far done excellently well in that area. He is even now like the coordinator of our national teams as he has established a kind of synergy amongst all the age grade teams and the SE. Gone are the day when the U20, U23 and SE coaches would be fighting over a player. I remember John Obuh fighting with Siasia over Ahmed Musa. Also Siasia fighting with a then SE coach over Obinna Nsofor and some other of "his boys".

Chairman, abeg Rohr has brought sanity and discipline to the national team which is the first thing before you start talking about tactics.

charlesemeka85:
dennis scored for club brugge against standard liege today

Our dream team players are firing.

komekn:
I am indulging you with your approach to what in your opinion you call reasonable.

You really have not read the numerous write ups on this topic.

So I give up.

Can someone else explain to my friend andrew444, in a language that he can understand.


because I don tire.

Em...Andrew abeg which language you understand make we explain this thing. I be multi-linguist. Just tell me the language and lets talk Football

Atomtick:
These babe plays better than Supper Eagles

U dey watch the match?

TheGoodJoe:


Where did I take it with a cube of sugar?


The fact remains, the statement directly from the manager is the best information you have available.

Finito.

Or a bag of salt

tbaba1234:
“Oyibo Eaglet” – Nigeria U17 Include Two Players Born Abroad In Final Squad For U17 AFCON

For the first time in the history of Nigeria U17 teams two players born outside the shores of Nigeria have made the squad for the 2019 U17 Africa Cup of Nations ‎, which serves as qualifiers for the World Youth Championship.

Owngoalnigeria.com exclusively gathered that Chelsea teen forward Adrian Akande and young Bournemouth goalkeeper Joseph Oluwabusola made the final list of 23 players selected for the tournament by coach Manu Garba.

Oluwabusola is not new to the team as he was part of the team to the WAFU B U17 Championship which Nigeria won to seal progress to the Africa U17 Cup of Nations but he could easily have missed out on the list of players to the tournament if not for the fact that first choice goalkeeper John Amah failed the mandatory Magnetic Resonance Imaging test, which is usually done to curb the menace of age cheats.

Akande on his part impressed the handlers of the team after training with the team for one week in Abuja and the omission of some forward players who are regulars in the team ‎due to the MRI test helped his inclusion in the final squad for the tournament which will begin on the 14th of April in Tanzania.

Overall four players born outside the shores of Nigeria took part in the screening exercise in Abuja but the duo of former Barcelona Escola Kelechi Ebenezer Ibe-Torti and Go Ahead Eagles Lateef Omidiji Junior were not considered good enough for the Nigerian team.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2019/04/07/oyibo-eaglet-nigeria-u17-include-two-players-born-abroad-in-final-squad-for-u17-afcon/

For Lateef Omidiji I think his age and size could be a major factor. He is still very much a developing player. Still elligible for the next U17 and should give it another shot.

Kudos to Manu for not falling to the factor of "foreign born" to include him. If he is not good enough then he should be dropped.

tbaba1234:
Captain Of Nigeria U17 Samson Tijani Loses Out On Move To Club Brugge Due To Multiple Representatives

The much talked about transfer of Nigeria U17 captain Samson Tijani to Belgium side Club Brugge won’t be happening, Owngoalnigeria.com can exclusively reveal.

Tijani was billed to join the Belgium team after the U17 Africa Cup of Nations which is the qualifiers for the World Youth Championship but the move suffered a set back due to uncertainty over his true representative.

He impressed the scouts of Club Brugge during the WAFU B U17 Championship in Niger Republic and contacts was made with his local team in Nigeria, which further strengthened the chances of the deal happening.

However it was called off after it was discovered that the 16 year old signed representative contracts with two other agents outside the one who brought the Club Brugge deal according to a source who is in the know about the deal.

” The deal is off. Tijani and the guys who brought the Club Brugge deal are no longer working. They called off their relationship with him after discovering that he has signed representative contracts with two other agency. It’s sad but it’s the reality “, he told Owngoalnigeria.com.

http://owngoalnigeria.com/2019/04/07/captain-of-nigeria-u17-samson-tijani-loses-out-on-move-to-club-brugge-due-to-multiple-representatives/

What kind of thing is this naa?
Haba!

zoboizee:
1. Still can't trap the ball properly till now as a professional footballer. Which is elementary.

2.Poor skill set.

3. Avoids his right foot on the ball as if it's plagued. He even scored a goal raising his right foot up in order to use the left foot.

Well, you just summed it up. People will argue Iheanacho has regressed. But I will say he stagnated.

He was never at the level people placed him.

Some believe he has stopped working hard. But I don't think so. In Football development there is what is called a plateau. A player develops and gets to a level and remains at that level for long. That is the plateau. And that is where the talent of such Player can raise him to. And after that plateau his performance starts declining. Iheanacho may just have hit his plateau early. That is just it.

safarigirl:
nobody is asking him to fully displace Vardy, but some respectable game time would do

Well, this is at the discretion of the coach.

do4luv14:
I support you, he should work hard, and if he still didn't see game time, should move out on loan, by borrowing a leaf from Musa

How do you know he is not working hard?

andrew444:
I love nacho and am a big fan of him

Not sure he will go to afcon,but if e go na him lick and good for him

If osimhen miss afcon I won't be happy with rohr

Osimhen is going to the AFCON

safarigirl:
h must be doing somehing awfully wrong to no be in contention for reasonabl game time.

This isn't about Pep, or Puel, or Rogers....talent and hard work mwver hides. Even if a player is unfortunate enough to be plague by managers that don't rate him, if he makes immense contributions on the pitch, even the most hardheaded manager will have no choice, but to give him playing time.

For someone to go through three managers and none of them found him an asset, haha....he is either not pulling his socks up, or his village people are working on overtime

Don't you think his lack of game time is the competition he has ahead of him? That is Vardy. That guy is difficult to displace from that Leicester team.

TheGoodJoe, what do you think about her submissions?

safarigirl:
Iheanacho cannot make AFCON.

Even if Rohr makes a 30-man list, Iheanacho cannot and must not be on that list. Lwt misfortune follow he who has chosen to make himself unfortunate

Better to take Chukwueze, Onuachu and Osimhen to Egypt, than allow Kelechi on that flight. He can join supporters club sha

Easy Aunty.

But you really think he is responsible for his misfortune? And how?

Danielnino00:
Right now Iheanacho going to the afcon is 50-50 If he can score a few goals before d season ends then he will be back in contention. And if Osimhen is drafted to the u-23 again,then Nacho spot would be guaranteed...

The U23 game is not clashing with the AFCON. So Osimhen joining the U23 team cannot affect his chances of being in the AFCON. Even if there is anything it is likely going to boost his chances of being in the AFCON just like as in the Libya 4-0 game.

Earthquake2:
Rohr rates players based on their performance in the SE

As far as Samu has not done those things in the SE, Rohr will not rate him better than the players he has currently

You get the point.

tbaba1234:
If Nigeria is trailing in an AFCON game, who will you bring on as an impact sub?

Now, who to bring in depends on a lot of factors. But one major one is "why are we not getting the goals"?. And this singular factor too can be due to several reasons. It could be that the main striker is not effective enough even despite the players behind him putting him up in good scoaring positions. A case like this a like for like switch of strikers could make the change.
Secondly, if the Midfielders are not doing enough to link up play with the attack. Here a more creative or more advanced Midfielder could be sub-in for a DM to support the AM or a direct switch between AMs.
Thirdly, could be that the wingers are not effective enough. Here subing in a new winger(backed up with all the introductions) can change the game.
Fourthly, the opposing defense could also have neutralised the already existing striker if it is a 4-5-1 and a second striker needs to be subbed in for one of the 5 Midfielders.

And so on so forth, depending also on other dynamics of the game including the balance of play.

So chief anybody can be that "impact sub"

darkelf:
All this hullabaloo just because of 1 goal and 1 assist against barca.

Where were the calls for Chuks to be included in the senior team before the barca match?

Fans can be overly emotional sometimes. Let us see what this guy can do at the U-20 level first. While I'm not disparaging his talent, the fact is that this guy is not Mbappe. He still has a lot to learn and the U-20 is a good point to start.

To be fair their call for Chukwueze to play at the AFCON didn't just start after that Barca game. This argument has been on for months now even before the AYC.

I remember Joebie asking us to suspend the argument until we first secure the U20 WC ticket.

tbaba1234:
Falcons friendly today..

Did you notice how the game changed when Courtney Dike and Ini Utombong came on? Two strikers that did not play at the African tournament. After the first half, it was 1:1. The two players came on and at the end of the game, it was 6:1.. Hattrick from Courtney Dike and 2 goals from Ini Utombong. Is Oparanozie still the best falcons striker??

The problem of that team had always been the quality of the players assembled. The Outcome of Yesterday's game tells a lot .

tbaba1234:
Not really... Simon offers defensive discipline and hardwork but if you want to change a game not going in your favor, he will not be my first choice.

Simon has the kind of individual ability to change games in your favor. With his pace and direct play he can open up stubborn defenses. He also has eye for goals.

wayodude:
Let's imagine a hypothetical situation where Chukwueze is in red hot form from now until the end of the season getting maybe 10 goals and a few assists. Will you still think he should play the u-20's?

No assumptions. Assess the situation based on what you have on ground.

BascoVanVeli:
There is nothing wrong with u saying that but I was talking about what was best for the player.

The main reason I will give for selecting the WC over the AFCON(I personally wanted him to be at both) will be that it also keeps him grounded. Let him go through the process and be a kid one last time. There is a reason that all these great players participated at these tournaments. It was not because they were not ready for the senior team but to aid their development.

EOD! These are the exact points I have been making from the word go.

I was personally not pleased seeing a 16 and 17years Osimhen and Awoniyi playing for the U23 team then. There's nothing as good as players following the development process. U cannot compare both players' game levels then to now.

Chukwueze is already a senior team player fine. But nothing wrong in him playing the U20 since he is still 19.

tbaba1234:
I understand the argument.

What is the point of youth football? To provide players for the senior team.

If a young player can already compete at senior level, there is no need playing him with the youths.

If there was no AFCON, i will support that he goes to strengthen the under 20 but senior football is more important and Samu offers something that is not currently available in the super eagles.

I understand your argument. But as it is, it looks like Rohr doesn't have plans for Chukwueze for the AFCON would you rather he misses both the AFCON and U20 WC?

tbaba1234:
Only Onyekuru and Chukwueze can serve that purpose in my opinion.

Simon too cannot be an impact sub?

safarigirl:
Having read and reviewed nunerous arguments for and agaibdt Chukwueze's inclusion into the U20 team, I have come to the conclusion that perhaps, youth football is indeed, what he needs at this time in his career.

So, yes, it may be better that he is drafted into the U20 team, as the chances of him joining the AFCON team amd participating in the tournament, is quite bleak, considering the competition ahead of him.

Simple!

Earthquake2:
How does one pass an MRI test and fail another

Are you sure the machines work or do they grow years in weeks?

It has always happened even in time past. MRI measures extent of bone fusion in young boys. As the boys continue to grow the extent of fusion also progresses. Hence some boys that hadn't attained full fusion during the previous test could have attained full fusion with most recent test.

Humility017:
sure now... the Lateef Omo guy I mean the feyernood kid and the Chelsea lad are obviously 14 years old.
just so painful but I trust him and his backroom staffs to scale through the hurdle

He had over 60players in camp not just those 2 additions.

Earthquake2:
Golden Eaglets camp in disarray as MRI knocks out 5 key players

Ahead of the U-17 African Cup of Nations holding in Tanzania in a few days time, five key players of the Nigeria Golden Eaglets have failed the MRI test according to our reporter in Abuja.
The Manu Garba-led side emerged Champions in the WAFU qualifying series but were unable to conduct the MRI test on the players months ago before the competition due date.
However, after the test was conducted on Friday, 5 key players from the team that qualified the country for the African Youth Championship in Tanzania have been knocked out.
The players affected are:

Goalkeeper – JOHN IKEDINACHUKWU AMAH

defender – MUHAMMED IBRAHIM

midfielders – HASSAN HUSEINI, BABATUNDE AKINSOLA JIMOH

Forward – FAVOR AKEM
One of the players knocked out by the MRI test who pleaded anonymity confirmed the situation to our source in Abuja on Friday afternoon a few minutes after the exercise.

https://www.brila.net/golden-eaglets-camp-in-disarray-as-mri-knocks-out-5-key-players">

Too bad. So none of the newly included players failed the test?

tbaba1234:
Against Seychelles?? He scored but there was not much else to label him resurgent.

If Mikel is unavailable, sure i will put him in my team.

The fact that he scored, and the way he scored despite playing just few minutes is a major boost for him.