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BascoVanVeli:
Really? I would have thought it go to somebody around the technical crew.

There must be a legal person in the technical committee to interpret laws and constitution.

krattoss:
As one adage always says...mistakes always occurs...we have made mistakes in one way or the other in life or at our strategic job places...
Now the most important thing is to learn from the mistakes and tighten our loose ends...no cause for insults and jibes...

Let's rally around our own in times of good and bad ..
#istandwithnff

That mistake is too costly abeg. What if we needed to have won that game? Abeg those responsible should be thrown over board as a deterrent to others.

kennysville:
Chief,chief, chief..... anyone could have made the mistake. I dont see anybody calling members of the team incompetent. They got it wrong yes. Costly mistake? Well not so much so long as it didnt happen against Zambia.
The current NFF has done a lot to deserve our credit. Lets not rubbish all their harwork with an oversight. This issue happened way long ago. I am sure we will have different stories and explanatiojs in the days to come. Cos in my deep seated belief? That yellow card against swaziland should av been cancelled goin into group stages

If anyone could have made such a mistake how come we didn't hear of such mistake from other world cup qualifying teams?

How do we achieve greatness as a nation when we give excuses for mediocrity.

BascoVanVeli:
Maybe that is part of someone's duty but I can bet that they don't have one guy who just reads the FIFA rule book.

You mean a whole NFF would not have a Legal adviser?

And what is the job of the NFF technical committee?

tbaba1234:
Algeria notified FIFA. Meaning they had our records but we did not.

Meaning Zambia too will now start searching.

BascoVanVeli:
My guess is there was never a job for that.

Haba! That can never be true. It is someone's duty.

tbaba1234:
Na so, you turn the issue to religious one.

Costly Incompetence by NFF.

Honestly they should just thank God that Shehu didn't collect that second yellow against Cameroon because na that Zambia game in Uyo we for dash 3-0 to Zambia and we are out of the World Cup.

Nonsense!

Modified: we still would have qualified on goals difference.

kennysville:
Relax bruh! God is God.

Na try dem just dey try! No weapon fashioned against this current super eagles shall prosper...

E fit even be say the leaks na from inside glass house e take comot. All those bad belle people(let it scatter kind of people).

Cos the timing is just awkward!

Do you know that my mind told that Zambia would want to probe into our eligibility record to see if we left one window open?

Everyone knows Nigeria runs such a disorganized FA.

terzurum5:
Same way the thing took the person unaware is the same way it would have happened to anyone of us if we were in charged.

If you doubt me then, how come it did not come to our notice.

Cc: tbaba1234

Is that my day job? Do I get paid for that?

tbaba1234:
Why do you assume that?

Do you think other players from other teams did not get booked in the first phase? Did you hear of any error from other teams?

Someone took their eye off the ball and it could have cost us.

Even Mozez Praiz was doing a review of our road to Russia and omitted the Swaziland game. Could it be that some NFF officials also forgot the Swazi game was part of the qualifiers? Unbelievable!

kennysville:
I dont think it is fair blaming NFF. The euphoria of dead rubber match got the better of everyone including yours truly.
But wait O! Is nt that match the qualification match befor the group stages? Why would the card count in the second phase to which Nigeria progressed?

I think this fifa rules need to be explained clearly. Let us hope they werent lying in wait to see if we were gonna slip up. I foresee them doing more digging. Was this necessary at this tym? After world cup draws had been done? I am beginning to think Fifa feels Nigeria na bad market for the world cup O!

Whose job is it to read and interpret the FIFA rules?

What do they do from day to day in that bloody glass house?

I am so pissed! Gush!!

They remembered Oliseh's bonus from the Swaziland game but didn't remember Shehu's yellow card.

chimzyblack:
FIFA FINES NIGERIA FOR USE OF INELIGIBLE PLAYER IN SHEHU ABDULLAHI AGAINST ALGERIA.


World football governing body FIFA has sanctioned Nigeria for fielding an ineligible player in Shehu Abdullahi in their final FIFA World Cup 2018 Qualifiers tie against Algeria on the 10th of November 2017 in Constantine.
Abdullahi who played the entire duration of the above mentioned game and even gave away the penalty, which Algeria converted to draw 1-1 isn’t eligible for the game after picking up two separate caution in two separate games of the same competition.
He was supposed to be suspended for the game but Nigeria fielded him, and FIFA have now confirmed a fine on Nigeria following the recent meeting of the Disciplinary Committee earlier today.
Nigeria were fined CHF 6,000 with FIFA also awarding Algeria three points and three goals, which means the game which ended 1-1 is now recorded as 3-0 in favour of Algeria.
However the victory awarded to Algeria, has no implication on the final standings of the group as Nigeria have already qualified for the World Cup, while Algeria were confirmed eliminated before the game.

Our ranking will now plunge further to like 60th. Thank God the draws have been made already, else na pot5 we for dey.

terzurum5:
No one will loose his/her job.
How many of us here took note of it?
It's just a call for all of us to sit up.







De way wey this God take love Nigeria and the Super Eagles ehn

Oga do you know what you are saying?

Is the NFF paying anyone of us here to keep records?

I cannot even give you a list of the players that got the yellow in our last match not to talk of a match played over 2 years ago. Because it is not my job.

Who are those whose job it is to keep records such cautions in the NFF? There are people who are collecting our tax payers money as salaries for doing so.

Somebody must be made a scape goat for others to sit up.

nelszx:
Yes it was actually against Swaziland away

Imagine!
And even on the 90th minute.
Some body must get fired in that NFF this night!

enomakos:
Egypt have more football followers than Nigeria, we may have the population but not fierce supporter of the national team

Another thing is most Nigerian didn't vote cos it is not big brother

You have made a valid point here.

1. What percentage of the Nigerian population has access to the internet?

2. Of the percentage that has access to the internet how many were aware of such voting contest?

3. Of those that were aware how many are interested in our national team issues.

Believe it or not we are giant of Africa only in population. Technologically we are not. Egypt are ahead. 70% of Nigeria's population live in rural areas while for Egypt it is slightly above 50%.

Egyptians care little about foreign leagues. Even if they follow foreign leagues it will be to watch their Egyptian players.

No doubt while Nigerian fans were busy marking their nairabet tickets the Egyptian fans were busy voting for Mohammed Salah.

Imagine Moses came a distant 4th. Nigerians no vote at all? What is the population of Gabon(2million) that there own player even finished 3rd.

Another thing is Nigeria does not have many friends on the continent. Expect all Ghana and SA votes to go to Mohammed Salah. And these are two countries with a large internet population. The only votes that would have gone to Moses from there may be those of Nigerians living there.

kennysville:
This..... this right here is the reason you take your chances seriously and not be playing nonsense. Who knew this could come back and bite us? Imagine if we had drawn both matches against zambia.... or the incidence happened actually against Zambia.
Them for just carry one or 2 points senior us. Plus goals difference join.

I tell you.

That NFF house for go down this night.

tbaba1234:
Players do not keep mental records of these things. Someone in the NFF should have known.

The first card could be in the Swaziland games

tbaba1234:
Does that count in the group phase?

It is still part of the qualifiers naa. We also need to see the rules concerning such

nelszx:
FIFA don't know what they are saying according to official statistics Shehu was booked just once in the Qualifiers and it was against Zambia in Nigeria.

What of the games against Swaziland?

Can you post those too let's see?

Wait o.
Come to think of it, what if we were only 2 or 3 points ahead of Zambia?
Hey! This matter must not be swept under the carpet.
Was Shehu himself not aware?

nelszx:
BREAKING NEWS

Nigeria forfeits the results against Algeria for fielding an ineligible player (Shehu) against Algeria according to FIFA disciplinary committee. And Algeria in turn won 3-0 against Nigeria.

We were beaten three goals to nil and our WCQ unbeaten run has officially ENDED

Full Article

Latest decisions of the FIFA Disciplinary Committee
(FIFA.com) 12 Dec 2017

Following the recent meeting of the Disciplinary Committee, FIFA can today confirm the latest sanctions imposed for incidents that occurred during the preliminary competition for the FIFA World Cup™ as well as in international friendlies.

The Nigeria Football Federation (NFF) has been sanctioned for fielding an ineligible player in the match between Algeria and Nigeria on 10 November 2017. The match is declared to be forfeited and awarded 3-0 in favour of Algeria, with the NFF also receiving a fine of CHF 6,000. The sanction relates to the player Abdullahi Shehu failing to serve the automatic one-match suspension imposed on him as a result of receiving a caution in two separate matches of the same competition. This sanction bears no impact on the final result of the preliminary competition for the FIFA World Cup since Nigeria had already qualified (and Algeria eliminated) before the match took place.

The FIFA Disciplinary Committee has also sanctioned the Timor-Leste FA (FFTL) with a fine of CHF 70,000 and the forfeit of seven matches in the preliminary competition for the 2018 FIFA World Cup™ for fielding a total of nine ineligible players based on nationality. The decision of the FIFA Disciplinary Committee is related to a previous sanction imposed by the AFC.

In addition, the Colombian player Edwin Cardona has been sanctioned for making a discriminatory gesture at an opponent during the friendly match played between the representative teams of Korea Republic and Colombia on 10 November 2017. Cardona has received a five-match suspension on the basis of art. 58 par. 1a) of the FIFA Disciplinary Code, with the suspension to be served during the upcoming friendly matches of the Colombian representative team, as well as a stadium ban for those five matches and a fine of CHF 20,000.

Further details of the other decisions passed by the Disciplinary Committee are available in the disciplinary overview document for the 2018 FIFA World Cup™ preliminary competition, published on FIFA.com.

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/news/y=2017/m=12/news=latest-decisions-of-the-fifa-disciplinary-committee-2924351.html

Zambians would quickly run back to that Qualifier table to deduct 3points from Nigeria's point......
But it doesn't matter.

On a more serious note, if this is true then somebody must be sacked before breakfast time tomorrow.

MetalJigsaw:
That stupid Lazio team just just destroyed my ticket. So painful.

Stay away from gambling.

A brotherly advice.

kennysville:
Friends, Countrymen, Nairalanders!

I said some time ago about this issue of goal keeper is the least of our worries right now and time will prove this to be correct. A few posts ago, I asked us a question, which would you prefer between a bad goalkeeper, strong attack, and strong defence OR a good goalkeeper, good defence , bad attack. No on has been able to respond.

I will say it again, the goal keepin department is the least of our worries right now considering the fact that if we play a brand of attacking football heavily based on possession, our goal keepers may largely be untested in a competitive match.

What should be our major concern right now is how to get at least 2 replacements for Mikel before the world cup starts and start blendin them in. Which footballer has vision? Which player has accurate passes ? And can hold the midfield as well. I have said it before whether sarcastically or whatever, we can play without a goalie. Let us worry about someone to deputize for mikel. Scouts should come up with names of quality players that can do ball distribution. We have seen good goalies being messed up by a bad defence before so dont make it look like if Enyeama keeps the goal, he aint gonna concede.

June is almost here. Close ur eyes and open it and the world cup is upon us. Wake up everyone and stop debating what will not in the end matter. The sad news is our opponents are also analysing us. I dare say they even know this thread exists. We are the ones giving them the exposé on our team. They know what to do to take out Mikel. And once Mikel is out, the sting i our attack is gone. We are here debating goalies..... ok O.

I rest my case

You said we need two replacements for Mikel, suggest any two and let's discuss it. Sebi we are here to discuss football.

tbaba1234:
I saw the Nigeria-Cameroon 4:0 victory again. I observed that even in that match, Ezenwa made errors that went under the radar. We were just happy to see our keeper catching crosses.

In Yaounde, Cameroon scored even when they could not create chances because Ezenwa had a rush of blood to the head.

Against Algeria, there were several errors..

If Enyeama does not return, then we should give Uzoho friendly games to see how he performs. Start preparing him mentally.

If he gives strong showings in the friendlies, I will take the risk with him. Ezenwa is not a better risk.

Let us see him in more friendlies. I am not sold out on him yet. So is Rohr.

BascoVanVeli:
How are we expected to beat teams whose players play for their main team? Libya are former champs and Guinea beat us last time.

The FIFA ranking calculator will not tell you Team A played its first team while Team B played with its 3rd team. Result is result.

And that Guinea is Equatorial Guinea and not Guinea-Conakry. It was Guinea-Conakry we played the last time.

goldfish80:
CHAN is rated as confederations level competition which is a 3 pointer while Wafu and other small regional competitions like Cecafa and cosafa are 1 pointers. So I thought anyway.

CHAN is a 1pointer.

Mujtahida:
Yes I am not saying experience or any other categories mentioned are not good. They are very good. It's a cliché that experience is the best teacher and we all know through practical life experience how much we have learned through our various experiences. Same thing with football. It's said that gk are like wine, they taste better with age. This is all fine.

My point was that experience must serve the purpose of performance. If an experienced gk will not give us good performance what then is the benefit of his experience? So performance reigns supreme. It can be assumed that an experienced gk will help our performance. Fine. That too is my assumption but if it turns out otherwise then like the goodjoe will say let the gk who has the quality to give us good performance man the sticks. That's what I mean by not using any category to set up totalitarian criteria that is set in stone and cannot change. Even performance cannot be set up as an inflexible criteria where for example a gifted player wants to unsettle the unity in the team. He should be kicked out.

So my question is: experience just good in itself if serves no positive purpose? As in where our assumption that experience and performance goes together does not hold should we continue to stick to experience even when no quality performance is coming out from it?

Just imagine If you had judged Ezenwa solely based on his first 45mins against Cameroon and concluded and sealed a deal only for you to later see his other sides.

We have not seen Uzoho enough to conclude he is the best keeper. He has not even played in a charged competitive atmosphere like Ezenwa did. Uzoho is not tested. For now I have not seen enough to conclude that Uzoho can do the job better than Ezenwa.

That 45mins showing is not enough.
Let's not jump into hasty conclusion that will leave us with regrets.

And in the experience and performance case. Performance is in most cases tied to experience.
You need to do some thing continuously over a given period of time to get perfect at it.

goldfish80:
CHAN is a serious tournament. By FIFA power ranking, CHAN is a confederation tournament which earns 3.0 points.
In the eyes of FIFA, CHAN is on par with the AFCON.
CHAN points is actually worth more than FIFA world cup qualifiers.

NO matter how bad things maybe, there is no chance in hell we would loose all 3 games in CHAN,even if a community secondary school team represented us.

Just a couple of wins in that tournament boosts our ranking.

For me, this CHAN team is too good to exit the tournament at the group stage.

Firstly the CHAN is classified on the same level with international friendlies. And so each game carries 1point and not 3points as you stated.

Look at the other teams in our group: Libya, Rwanda and Equatorial Guinea. These are lowly ranked teams that we are expected to beat. Just a lose or draw against any one of them is enough to negate the whole ranking points even if we win the other 2 group games. So we must claim all 9points. That is my point.

Mujtahida:
The bolded is precisely well put. There's a kind of cheap tactics some are using on this thread: we take any category like youthfulness, team spirit, experience, clubside, performance, old legs, homebased, foreign born to set up totalitarian criteria. When you call for Martins team youth will attack you, when you call for young players, team experience will attack you sometimes with valid reasons but most times with emotion and sentiments cos they simply just love their category.

Do you know I once argued strenuously against the invitation of Martins but I had to re-evaluate my stance for four reasons: 1)we need at least one more attacker(2) Martins was performing at par with Ighalo in the same league (3) it's just an invitation for God sakes (4) the overall goal of glory for the team should override my personal preference and sentiments.

You see those categories I mentioned above? There are our equivalents on this thread of the tribes and tribalism issue that has bedevilled us as a nation. Tribe of youth doesn't agree with tribe of experience etc. Meanwhile we forget that what should guide our discussions is performance. Will youth help us post quality performance? Will experience help us? Will the home based help us? Will the foreign born help us? A team is not youth, home based, foreign based, team spirit solely as criterias in themselves but all of these criterias in good measure but performance trumps them all because football is a performance sports and that's what will be recorded not all the other criteria. If we like we take all the youths, if they fail to perform we will feel the pain like we did after the SA defeat. If we like let's take all the experienced players, if they fail to perform experience will not give us any satisfaction like it has never done in tourneys we took experienced players to and failed to perform. If we like let us swoon over team spirit, about chemistry if we don't perform that team chemistry will turn sour in our belle.

A team is a pot of soup being cooked for public consumption not personal consumption. It needs many ingredient to make it sweet. Let's those who love salt not say oil is not good and let those who don't like pepper say onion is all we need to make the soup sweet.

All categories must be carefully filtered through the sieve of what will give us optimal performance.

You need experience in the goalkeepers department more than any other department. Goal keepers get better with age. Same goes to some extent with defenders.

For the attack I don't care much about experience. All I just need to have at least 1-3 years of professional football at the senior club level. I don't tolerate academy players any where near the senior national team.

For the attacking section I prefer players that are young and vibrant I have even gone ahead to give the age at which strikers start declining. Any striker that falls outside that age bracket is no longer appealing to me. This is also connected to why market value of most strikers decline as they age.

Also I prefer experience over youth in the defense. Especially CBs.

These are my preferences right from the start of this thread and that has not changed. There is no ethnic, religious or political colorations to it.

Both youths and experience are needed in a team. But some departments need the experience more than others. That has been my point from day one.

Performance is also tied to experience. Most people need to do things over and over again for a given period of time to get perfect. That principle holds sway every where.

goldfish80:
I don't think we will loose points playing CHAN. The last I checked, there was ranking points earned for playing in major tournaments. CHAN is a recognised CAF and FiFA tournament.
We Lost valuable ranking points for not qualifying for 2 AFCONs.
mm
Just 2 wins in CHAN will boost those ranking points.

Ordinary qualifiers for CHAN that we lost to Benin it negated the 4-0 win and 1-1 draw we had with Cameroon. Look at the other teams in our group, any attempt to draw one we drop be that. It means we must secure the 9points from that group to start with .

Kog45:
Yes,we just needs to watch the CHAN coming up in morocco coz we have Ezenwa in the team.

I pray we beat Poland in March to make up for the Ranking points we'll drop from participating in CHAN.
Hahaha.

Too bad the only players we will be looking out for are Ezenwa and maybe Ajiboye. No out field players to look out for.

O pari *in icon79's voice*