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Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:36am On Nov 20, 2016
goldfish80:
he could be coached to play in goal. Who knows grin
But seriously, the Nigerian attack will be the fastest in world football is Kayode is integrated into this squad.
Imagine Musa, Victor Moses, Moses Simon and Kayode waiting to run at people?
Heck! If we went with this quatert to Rio Olympics, we could have given the Jamaicans a run for their money in the 4X100 relay.
Not to forget Aminu Umar who is getting good reviews in Turkey for Osmanlispor.
Sad Imoh Ezekiel, another talented runner is pissing his career away in Qatar.
I have followed Kayode since after he featured at U17.

I had preferred him to Sadiq Umar for the Olympics. But as usual Siasia with his teams selections.

As for the Super Eagles let us see him in any of the friendlies. I understand Rohr may invite him for the Egypt friendly in January of which the timing might not be right for our foreign based players.

Kayode is 23 and I believe he belongs to this generation. Lets give him a trial.

However, i am not expecting too much from him. Players like Ighalo and Success would also have flourished in that same Austrian league.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:54pm On Nov 19, 2016
goldfish80:
Nigerian most in form player over the last 2 years scored again today.
A certain Kayode olarenwaju anyone know him? grin
We don't know him.

Is he a goal keeper or a defender? grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:52pm On Nov 19, 2016
forgiveness:
grin na expired be that. grin
Next thing now u no go gree us hear word for this one again.
Sports › Re: THE NIGERIAN YOUTH AND CADET TALENTS/ PLAYERS THREAD (Home and Abroad) by Icon4s(m):
BascoVanVeli:
Such is life, after the world cup who gave this boy a chance as the first to make a major debut? Not me for one. Now he is a step closer to the super eagles.
Career advancement in football is not like Arithmetic Progression. As u rightly put it, this boy might get a Super Eagles call-up even before the likes of Awoniyi, Osimhen, K. Nwakali, and Yahaya.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:39pm On Nov 19, 2016
forgiveness:
E don expire!? grin
No he has not.

We should take him to the 2020 Olympics.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:44pm On Nov 19, 2016
zoboizee:
Guys, who's seen this guy-Adessoye Oyewole, plays CB/RB&DM for FC Orenburg in the Russia Premier League. According to wikipedia, Adessoye Oyetundzhievich Oyewole (Russian :Адессойе Ойетунджиевич Ойеволе; born 18 September 1982 in Moscow ) is a Russian football defender of Nigerian heritage. He plays as a defensive midfielder or a central defender. He plays for FC Orenburg. He played in Russian youth national team.
http://www.livescores.com/soccer/russia/premier-league/gazovik-orenburg-vs-lokomotiv-moscow/1-2257107/
Born in 1982? shocked

He should be joining his mates in retirement.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:40pm On Nov 19, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
He ended up with two goals eventually... smiley

I dont know but maybe it's too early to ask...

Should Anichebe be given a look in? This is the second game running he's banging the goals in..... I'm not saying anything... Just asking... **smiles**
Seems he is rejuvenated.

But whether he would want to honour our invitation is what I don't know.

Recall he sustained that career threantening injury while on national duty.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:40pm On Nov 19, 2016
joseph1013:
LOL. But you sha no win. Ramsey didn't play well at all.

Abeg, which day Wenger go beat Mourinho. 12 years, no win.
Wenger beat him in community shield last year na.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:31pm On Nov 19, 2016
joseph1013:
That's why Arsenal will lose this match. It's a joke to rush Ramsey to replace Iwobi like this.
But we no lose na.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
TheSuperNerd:
Looollll.... Yep. You're right. France finished fourth in 2011 at the FIFA U-20 WC after knocking us out in the Quarters.

Mexico beat them 3-1 in the third-place game. Watched the game myself. smiley

Pogba and Co did conquer in 2013.

But you are also wrong in mentioning "Daniel Uchechi" (he featured at the 2009 edition not 2011)...... wink

It was rather Bright Ejike who scored a brace that day, the first of which took that game into extra-time against France. So you don "goof" too oooo.... smiley


Sir Icon4s made a mistake because him carry a lot of info for head. U neva see him "head" before?? Na wa ooo... Na Arch-Guardian him be ooo. grin
Thanks my brother.

The thing is it seems i have better memories of the oldies than the more recent. Been occupied with so many thingsl in the recent past unlike in the 80s and 90s when it was all football for me.

For instance i would have to think a little to tell hu won the 2009, 2011, or 2013 WYC but i can tell without thinking who won the 1987, 1989, or 1991 WYC. I can even tell the score lines of those 80s and 90s finals bt for the more recent ones i may even make google my friend. grin
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:15pm On Nov 19, 2016
ChrisKels:
I think you are wrong here sir, the French didn't win it that year and Pogba didn't play in that team but the next team after that team. The notable players in the French team then were Cedric Bakambu now with Villarreal, who murdered our defence, Gael Kakuta of then Chelsea FC, Lacazette of now Lyon and of course Nathan Ligali. We paraded the likes of Uche Nwaofor and Daniel Uchechi (who gave us a false hope when he gave a last gasp equalizer against the French, then they murdered us in extra 30mins. In that same tourney we also played against England who also paraded another Nigerian in Reece Wabara who was with Mancity Academy, though he was stretchered off about 5mins into the encounter with us. That was the same year Sammy Ameobi left our camp for the English camp but was not paraded against us.

U r the arc guard of the hall of experience and a grey haired historian of the Nigerian football, I didn't expect u to goof as u just did. Take time before sir Forgiveness pounces.

By the way, I miss ur comic posts, plz retress ur steps ka m chiwara afo(in my native isuikwuato dialect).
Thanks. Sorry i mixed the two tourneys up.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 4:45am On Nov 19, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Who knows Jonathan Ligali well enough? Seems like a Nigerian but he's french-born with parents from Benin-Republic (and we know Benin has a good representation of the Yoruba community...).

Examples: Muri Ogunbiyi, Razak Omotoyossi... Etc.

If Jonathan Ligali of Montpellier can be approached and gotten to play for us then our Search for Ikeme's cover could be over with the likes of Alampasu, Osigwe and Nwokolor to serve as rising extra quality back-ups.

Only problem is His nationality is listed as France and Benin Republic but I know he's Nigerian. My radar says so... smiley

Sooooo? What about Ligali?
Born to Nigerian parents.

I first noticed him when he featured for France at the 2011 WYC in Colombia. He was their first choice goalie. Recall France won that tourney with Paul Pogba also in that team.

Oliseh, as coach then, once had his eye on him. He is just 24yrs old and I think he may be one for the future and may also prove to be a good cover for Ikeme. He is currently 2nd choice goalie at Montpellier.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 7:50pm On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:
@bolded caught me laughing. Abeg no kill pesin.


Is that why you are defending Shehu Abdullahi? grin
Obviously, Brian Idowu and Raheem Lawal are the reasons u are criticising Shehu.
Sorry, for now, Shehu is more needed in the team than Raheem in particular.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m):
forgiveness:
Bros, you are the first to cry 'we don't want anyha players' but you will be the first to make a u-turn for 'your' favorite players.

Please, maintain a standard and stop d double standard.

So, because he played under different coaches mean he is good, ba?

Shehu Abdullahi doesn't deserve the National team. He should be replaced with Brian Idowu. grin
"He should be replaced by Brian Idowu". So Shehu should be dumped while we are waiting on Brian Idowu's switch. How are u even sure this Brian Idowu will fit into the team.

Besidss Shehu is nt even a RB. He is a DMF that can also play as CMF and RB. Such players are difficult to discard. They would always make the squad.

I know ur next argument is to bring in Raheem Lawal. Cam Raheem also play RB?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:15pm On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:
I wonder how you analyse your own Football! grin

Necessity is the mother of invention. This is the case of Carl Ikeme or are you not aware? grin

I don't need to explain because you know.

Shehu Abdullahi case is different because we have better players playing in his position currently. How can you not understand that?

Sone Aluko plays for England second division which is even far better than Cypriot first division where Shehu Abdullahi plays. That is too low for the National team. Abeg.

Sone-aluko should continue to be the best in the Championship then he will get a call.

Currently, he is the best in the Championship and that alone will get him noticed....

Your analyses should be devoid of bias judgments.

SHEHU ABDULLAHI SHOULD FORGET THE NATIONAL TEAM JERSEY AND THEY SHOULD STOP GIVEN HIM A CALL.
Aluko and Ikeme's case in particilar are reasons why i stand against ur comment that "no lower division player be invited".

I stand to defend Shehu Abdullahi's inclusion in the team. That guy is so valuable. He is a utility kind of player. He played under Keshi, Oliseh, Siasia against Egypt and the Olympics. If after watching Shehu all these periods and conclude bc he plays in Cyprus then he should not be invited then u are not being fair.

Anyways that is your opinion of which u are entitled to.

The coaches know the true value of Shehu Abdullahi and they will always pick him ahead of those "your" players.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 3:06pm On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:
I spoke as a Christian, I am sorry for that. I should have said it better.

Every human being is privileged...

I know Azubuike is good, so was Emmanuel Sani but no more bringing players to the National team based on past glory. He must deserve it.

We have better DMFs that are not in the national team. We should be inviting those ones.
So Azubuike represents a player with past glory?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:20am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:
Of course, he was privileged to be there to shine but he should work harder to draw the attention of Nigerian fans.
"Priviledged to be there to shine".

Mind u he was team captain before Mikel's inclusion.

Azubuike may jst b out of the national team now bc of the abundance of DMF options. When you have players like Onazi, Mikel and Ndidi. Remember also that Shehu Abdullahi is a DMF.

I wanted him to be at the next U20 WC. His game level is way above his age. People often forget he is just 19.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:12am On Nov 18, 2016
forgiveness:
grin You wonder? grin

Ok na, we should allow players from Afghanistan to wear the National team Jersey, maybe then you will understand. grin

No more double standard.

Play in top league or forget national team. Simple thing. grin
That means players like Carl Ikeme, Sonne Aluko, and Shehu Abdullahi should forget the national team abi?

Show me which player in this current Rohr's squad that plays outside Europe or Africa.

I repeat: I WONDER HOW YOU ANALYSE YOUR OWN FOOTBALL.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:59pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Your problem is not that Keshi achieved despite working under terrible conditions. Your problem is that he could have achieved more.
Yes!

We had the quality to have achieved more!

Watch out for Rohr's achievement.
I wouldnt be surprised if Nigeria emerges the fisrt African team to reach a WC semis. wink
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:56pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:
Who played Hope Akpan and Sone Aluko since Keshi left?

No one.
Oliseh is not spared of my criticism either.

He came along with Igboun who played Aluko's position and had other ideas in the midfield by fielding Rabiu Ibrahim and at a point starting Paul Onobi over Mikel. I remember he played Chima Akas in the defense too.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:51pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

I doubt you ever saw anything good in Keshi, if you felt he reduced our value. How many years were we without a title? Your problem is handing Jersey.

Not the brilliant hard work and a true symbol of sacrifice. Like coaching for seven months without a contract.
Keshi would have achieved more.

We never had our best crop of players playing in any given game.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:49pm On Nov 17, 2016
tbaba1234:
Egwuekwe was not even the best defender in the local league. Same with Agbim. These were bang average players.
Thanks for the reminder of these 2 big flops. angry
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:47pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

What about results? What about achievements? Becoming one of the greatest coaches in the history of coaching Super Eagles?

I guess, you never noticed any.

Reduced the value? Like winning the AFCON and qualifying us for the World Cup.
Yes" reduced the value". Often too many nonentities in his team line-ups including handing the number 10 Jersey to a player I am sure u TheGoodJoe never heard of.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:44pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

What about results? What about achievements? Becoming one of the greatest coaches in the history of coaching Super Eagles?

I guess, you never noticed any.

Reduced the value? Like winning the AFCON and qualifying us for the World Cup.
Get my point.

Keshi was a great coach.

He would have done better with better selections.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:40pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Keshi never claimed he was a tactical genius. He walked the corridors of the glass house, begging for the NFF to overturn the unfair dismissal of his technical adviser, the heroic Sylvanus Okpala.

So how can you claim that Keshi felt he was a tactical genius?

I repeat, unfair criticisms.

Gbolahan Salami was one of the local League's top scorers. It frightens me that you want the national team coach to turn his back on some of our promising local talents.

Even reports says Rohr is monitoring Salami. You did not complain then.
Imaging keeping 7slots for home based players every game. No merits. I almost had heart aches with Keshi's selections.

He reduced the value of the green and white jersey.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:35pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Do you call his last three games starting or ending? His last three games showed the trajectory of the team. Unfortunately, the NFF then were trigger happy to let the Iconic hero go. We were one goal a way from the going to the AFCON. Chances we created multiple times in that game. Some missed by Musa and Uche.

Keshi won the AFCON, Qualified us for the World Cup, took us to the knock out stage of the World Cup. We had a poor start to the qualifiers, but finished strong.

I wonder where he blew it. Keshi gets loads of unfair criticisms but his good works trumps the bad.
Trajectory? Thats after he released his mistakes.
Losing to Congo and Sudan is unpardonable.

He had a disastrous finish.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:28pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

As I said before, Emma Ado pointed the good from Keshi. Something we are enjoying today. Keshi did not blow it but had to work under challenging conditions.
Keshi blew it.

After d exploits of Obaobona, Mba, Reuben and the likes, He thought he was a tactics genius that can transform average players to super stars.He started searching for more home based players. The team had too many local players.

Ask urself where are those Keshi's unearthed homebased players today? The likes of Ejike Uzoenyi, Gabriel Reuben, Godfrey Obaobona, Gambo Mohamed. He later started a romance with Gbolahan Salami.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:19pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:


I totally disagree here. In our last three games against Keshi, if my maths is right, we won two games and drew one against South Africa the group leaders. We conceded three goals and scored seven.

The two goals we conceded happened because we took two hard injury blows. One to Hope Akpan who came in and steadied the ship with his midfield awareness. Then an injury to Omeruo. Meanwhile, Keshi did not have a contract and the NFF stopped him from coaching during the window.
Why focus on the last 3 games?

Keshi lost to Congo PR in Uyo and also lost away to Sudan. TheSuperNerd was right. Keshi started well but blew it up by homself.

His priority became to scout for homebased players that he can repackage, send abroad and make money from their transfers.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:14pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

As I said, look at his good works. You are still looking for negatives. Keshi's good to the Super Eagles trumps his negatives.

What Emma Ado said is a fact and his words should Draw our mind to some things of Keshi forgotten. This does not deserve rebuke.
Then let us also pay a blind eye to Siasia's and Oliseh's negatives.

Keshi also gave too much slots to home based players.He also had issues with the "big players" in the team.
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:01pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheGoodJoe:

Come On big bros. The man made a clear point. Most of the player made their debuts under Keshi. Which means, it was a work in progress. Many of these guys today were young and were not ready for big time.

Give Keshi kudos. He tried and we should remember his contribution. One of the coaches who took time building the team.
Keshi would have done better than he he did but his team selections too were suspects. What would u say of he handing the much revered number 10 Jersey to a non-league player?
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:51pm On Nov 17, 2016
terzurum5:
Now is the best determined by the Club one plays or what the player in question has to offer
At times i wonder how forgiveness analyses his football. undecided
Sports › Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2027, 2028 And 2030 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:01pm On Nov 17, 2016
TheSuperNerd:
Gbam!!! Loollll... Lose in Ndola and draw in Uyo.

Hahahahahaha...
Na so.

Mtcheew.

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