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Which one of Ronaldo's goal versus Spain was ranked 4th sef? None of those goals, including the freekick merits a nomination on this list.


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And I agree completely.


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Joebie:
It’s implied. If the “agent” was direct the coach would be uncomfortable. The coach should not be taking “gifts” from agents in the first place. The “agent” by offering Salisu 15% should all go well did his part to influence Salisu’s future decisions. The coach erred by not turning it down especially at that point.

Bros, I don't know what/who gives you the idea that I condoned any of these

Listen, I wasn't condoning anything. Go back to my initial posts. On the post you just quoted, I was just engaging in an academic argument with Komekn. I wasn't exactly trying to stake a claim.


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Humility017:
it is a big shame to read you condole these shameless act from salisu...
it goes to show that you have no principles...@all.
I am ashame to read the empty defense you put up there.....

that is simply bribery...it seems you don't know how bribery works in nigeria.... that's how it works in the civil service set up and lots more....

And I agree 100%. If you read my initial reaction to the interview, I stated that those two portions (accepting the tip and agreeing to the 15% contractual offer) were quite damning ... at least, in the court of public opinion. Because any good lawyer can "explain" those away in the court of law


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tbaba1234:
This section is the most damaging

Tiger: Ehh! So, if anything goes through (Coach nods his head as he intently listens to Tiger) and those players get the contract, you would get 15% of the contracts.

Coach: (Coach nods his head in agreement to Tiger’s proposal) That’s no problem. Then, they would be in CHAN. (They finally part ways).

Once he collected the money, all defence has been thrown out of the window.

Wow. Talk about jealousy


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GloriaNinja:
IF NOT FOR DAVIDO, NOBODY WILL EVEN KNOW SHE EXISTS.

Omo, below is the summary of the whole discussion:

Tiger: So, we are just simply out here to see you as the coach and then encourage that you send them to CHAN too, so that we would continue (Coach laughs a bit) to monitor, we would follow you to CHAN. So, that I’ll monitor them (another passer-by interrupts the conversation), so that we’d continue to monitor them. And ten, we can then bring them in,

Coach: Ehh, yeah! (Nods his head to indicate understanding Tiger’s proposal as another passer-by interrupts the conversation, followed by a phone call from his brother in Nigeria and then another passerby). Errm, it’s not that they cannot go to CHAN, but we don’t know what would happen tomorrow. But they are part of the team. They are first-team players, so, here’s nothing that would stop them from going to CHAN, only maybe what we don’t pray for, injury or sickness. So, that’s no problem, eh?

Bottom line, based on the above assertions, the two players went to CHAN on M-E-R-I-T. Short and simple!


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komekn:
I sorry for Nigeria.

This is the problem of our beloved country we are prepared to condone nonsense.

I am sure if you are from Delta you would be one of those that welcomed IBORI like a hero who returned from a honourable sojourn.

Please don't tell me that he went to Vienna just to inspect a "plastic bridge".



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Haha

Messi's goal against Nigeria was a work of art. It should've been voted the goal of the tournament.


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seunmohmoh:
what of musa goal

The naija politicians are a bunch of political opportunists. There's nothing like political ideology amongst them, all they care about is the party that gives the best chance to get into office and steal as much money as they can.

#Kleptocracy


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KPOM! That was exactly what I said. For $40m, I will even fight satan himself

But I knew that he was gonna duck Wilder. I told colleagues at work that there's no way AJ is going to take on Wilder. Because Wilder is bawler. He fights dirty and AJ isn't good at such fights.


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dominique:
Fear of losing his belts
If he doesn't take up this Wilder challenge, his credibility as a super boxer will start to diminish

Honestly, this is NOT as bad as it sounds. I have problems with Yusuf taking the money and the accepting the offer of 15% if a contract happens, but other than that this transcript doesn't show much corrupt intent.


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BascoVanVeli:
AFU 2017, Sekondi-Takoradi, Ghana.
Encouraging even earthy ethics’ eventual end, Eagles’ elder (coach) eagerly embraces enticing envelope expertly extended, expressly entangling him to ensure he fields extolled exportable players for entrepreneurial ends.

The head coach of the team that represented Nigeria at the Ghana WAFU 2017 Tournament, Salisu Yusif, took $1000 from Tiger, who was there as an undercover players’ agent, and agreed to use two of his players in the upcoming CHAN 2018 Tournament regardless of their form to make it possible for Tiger’s Players Agency to sell these players, out of which Yusif would receive 15% of their sales. The meeting took place at the Visitor’s Lounge of the Best Western Plus Atlantic Hotel, Sekondi-Takoradi.

Salisu Yusuf (Coach), the head coach of the Nigerian football team at the WAFU 2017 in Ghana, in a meeting with Tiger at the Best Western Plus Atlantic Hotel, Sekondi-Takoradi, accepted to use Osas Okoro of Rangers International and Rabiu Ali, the Kano Pillars’ midfielder, in the then upcoming CHAN 2018 Tournament to take place in Morocco except for injury and sickness regardless of their performance.

Mr Yusuf, with smiles all over his face, took a 1,000 US Dollars at the meeting and accepted an assurance of 15% from the sales of these players should all go as planned. He appreciated the offer with a promise: “Don’t worry, they would be at CHAN”.

The meeting, which was interrupted many times with phone calls by the head coach and exchange of pleasantries from passers by, has the following transcript as bits of the conversation between Tiger, the undercover players’ agent, and the Head Coach of the Super Eagles at WAFU 2017, Salisu Yusuf.

Tiger went straight to the point as usual and made known to Yusuf the agendum for the meeting and his proposal for him after exchanging pleasantries when he – Yusif - arrived for the meeting.

Tiger: Errm, we are monitoring two of your players.

Coach: (slightly bent towards Tiger with his right arm on his lap supporting his upper body and listening intently at what Tiger had to say) Uhh?

Tiger: I say we are looking at two of your players.

Coach: (Still bent over his lap) Okay.

Tiger: Errm, two of your players. Errm, Moses (Osas) Okoro,

Coach: (Assumes the former posture after being interrupted by passers-by) Umm?

Tiger: Moses (Osas) Okoro,
Coach: (Still bent over his lap) Okay. Tiger: The right back and then Rabiu Coach: Rabiu Ali.
Tiger: Ali Rabiu, the number 10. Coach: Okay.

Tiger: Yeah. We are seeing potentials in them and then, we have agencies that are looking at them too. So, we have agencies that are looking at them.

Coach: Okay.

Tiger: Yeah. That are looking at them too. Errm, we know you have qualified for CHAN.

Coach: Ehh (Yes).

Tiger: So, we are just simply out here to see you as the coach and then encourage that you send them to CHAN too, so that we would continue (Coach laughs a bit) to monitor, we would follow you to CHAN. So, that I’ll monitor them (another passer-by interrupts the conversation), so that we’d continue to monitor them. And ten, we can then bring them in,

Coach: Ehh, yeah! (Nods his head to indicate understanding Tiger’s proposal as another passer-by interrupts the conversation, followed by a phone call from his brother in Nigeria and then another passerby). Errm, it’s not that they cannot go to CHAN, but we don’t know what would happen tomorrow. But they are part of the team. They are first-team players, so, here’s nothing that would stop them from going to CHAN, only maybe what we don’t pray for, injury or sickness. So, that’s no problem, eh?

Tiger: Okay. So, we can follow you to CHAN?

Coach: We don’t know where to play CHAN yet. Whether we’d play in Kenya or Morocco.

Tiger: I’m sure it’d be in Kenya, I’m very sure. I’m very certain. From my sources.

Coach: They say Kenya?

Tiger: Yeah!

Coach: So, if you want to be in Kenya, apart from these two factors (another interruptions and exchange of pleasantries).

Tiger: Okay. So, no problem. We know they are good, so far, the games that they have played and we have watched them, we know that they are good. But you are the head coach, you also give them small time, small playing time, in (on) the big stages. (Laughs) Hahaha.

Coach: You see, in football, you have to be, it's supposed to be about, your consistency and form. If you are very consistent, you don’t have a problem (another interruption with a phone call).

Tiger: If you don’t mind, we can exchange contacts.

Coach: Okay. I have two numbers, +2348102991960.

Tiger: (After entering the number) Okay. Yusuf. Coach Yusuf.

Coach: Yeah!

(After struggling a little with the contact umbers, Tiger handed out an amount of $1,000 to Coach)

Tiger: Okay. Now we are going, so we have something for you (hands out a $,1000 to Coach).

Coach: (Laughs after collecting the money) Hahaha. Thank you. Tiger: This is $,1000.

Coach: Okay. Don’t worry, okay. (He exchanges handshakes to seal their deal as they part ways)

Tiger: Ehh! So, if anything goes through (Coach nods his head as he intently listens to Tiger) and those players get the contract, you would get 15% of the contracts.

Coach: (Coach nods his head in agreement to Tiger’s proposal) That’s no problem. Then, they would be in CHAN. (They finally part ways).

Meanwhile, Nigeria reached the final of CHAN, eventually losing 4-nil to hosts Morocco.

Again, I am not trying to defend corruption in any way, shape or form; but when you don't pay someone his/her salary for an upwards of 6 months, how do you expect the individual to survive?

If we are really serious about promoting integrity and/or fighting corruption then we first have to establish the enabling environment. What I am trying to say is that the Nigerian environment helps fester corruption.


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komekn:
Capacity and ability have never really been in question ❓ in our football and indeed in most areas of our governance.

However, INTEGRITY and. HONESTY have, that's the VERY BIG issue that draws us backwards.

Ogboni tinz.


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kennygee:
I know that money didn't come from "hapuya like that" or any other music.

Well, wetin be my own.

The same thing used to happen during my time as well. But the difference is, in those days, the coaches are still smart enough to play their best team. They don't mind add two or three dead weights in the team, as squad players, but on match day ... as far as I know anyway ... the starting 11 are usually the best team.

Meanwhile, part of the problem is that now every freaking Nigerian has become a football agent of some sort ... hence, the temptation is stronger for these coaches. Not making excuses for corruption but I can feel what they are going through.


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tbaba1234:
The gist is that coaches are being paid to play certain players at the expense of others. For instance, the top scorer, Devine Nwachukwu and Omidiji have started from the bench. Their introduction in the first game saved Nigeria's blushes but nothing changed in the second game.

So we are benching better players for those that settled. That is the gist anyway.

Omo, the Olympics team is NOT cadet level. At age 23 most soccer players are close to their peak coupled with the fact that each country is allowed 3 overage players as well. To me, any coach who gets a result at the Olympic level has what it takes to make it at the World Cup levels as well. So score one for Siasia, right there


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edi287:
My point is Siasia only cut it at cadet level. Didn't do well with Heartland.
Salisu and that U20 coach did well with club sides but if I asked you who is better out of the 3, you'd pick Siasia no doubt.
Learning as an assistant from Rohr can be too bad for them. In as much as I want Finidi to coach the U17 or U20s, If there's an opportunity to be one of Rohr's assistants he should take it.

Not to make any excuses for them, but the temptation to engage in shady business becomes more prevalent when we don't pay these coaches their salaries.


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komekn:
Sia Sia hmmm let me not talk before I face defamation case for lack of substantive evidence.

KPOM! I totally agree with doing away with the tainted gang. However, which national coach isn't tainted? It's really difficult not to be tainted when the NFF doesn't pay them their salaries on time. Man must wack


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tbaba1234:
Out of respect for the dead, let me not go into Keshi's case.

Oliseh gave all his brother's players access to the national team.

We need a fresh head not tainted by corruption.

No, it's more like talking about grooming someone to eventually take over from Rohr. And I would insist that someone's first coaching experience should not be with the full national team. They ought to cut their teeth with either club sides and/or the cadet teams as the head coach first. The keyword being: as the head coach.

Samson Siasia has done that, neither Mutiu or Finidi has. Hence, if either one of them has something to offer, let's see it at the cadet levels or at the club levels.


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edi287:
He has his coaching badges like Finidi and the rest. So what's the issue??
We are talking about someone assisting Rohr - Oya tell us who you'd like to replace Salisu??

True. But so was Keshi and even Oliseh. My recommendation would be to give him the job, give him an achievable target, and let him live and "die" by his results.


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tbaba1234:
Siasia's team selection is very suspect and he has been accused of bribery before.

Actually, unlike most of these other names being bandied about, Siasia has actually coached at the local scene - with the Heartland of Owerri ... amongst other teams.


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charlesemeka85:
is the nigerian national team coaching jobs only meant for him? he should get involved with the tinkering of clubs in the local league or apply to coach one of the smaller national teams in africa

Listen, Siasia really hasn't given a chance, per se. Rather, on those two occasions, you can say that he was brought in at the last minute to salvage a bad situation. First Eguaveon had already put our qualifications in jeopardy before Siasia came into the picture. And the second time around, Oliseh had already got use messed up and then abandoned the job before Siasia was brought in for damage control. I would like to see the NFF given Siasia the job with a clean slate let's see how he fares; not being brought in to clean up somebody else's mess.


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charlesemeka85:
and what has he done when was was given the chance to manage the senior national team? oga, age grade football differs from senior team football

Please, let's stop these nonsense! So because Mutiu "worked at 3SC for a bit", we should promote him into the national team set up, eh?
And because "Finidi worked at the youth setup of Betis", that qualifies him to be in pole position for our national team coach, huh?

Some of the craps you read on this forum. Listen, anybody who wants to be in consideration for the national team coach ought to start by proving himself at club level or age grade levels (either U-21 or the Olympics) first; before any aspirations of getting into the full national team set up. The Super Eagles is not where folks should go to test their coaching abilities or lack thereof. We've already tried that with Sunday Oliseh and it was a disaster!


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edi287:
I think Finidi worked at the youth setup of Betis if I'm not mistaken.
Mutiu wouldn't be a bad idea. Heard he worked at 3SC for a bit.

Siasia is still our most promising coach. Under him we have won the U-21 - silver, Olympics - silver, and Olympics - Bronze.

I can't think of any indigenous coach with a better coach.


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charlesemeka85:
God forbid,siasia should go and do something meaningful than hanging around always waiting, praying and hoping that someone should be sacked for him to take over. he should try his luck in a decent club in the local scene or even outside the shores of this country or a national team

Huh Do you know something we don't know?

Pray, do tell.


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forgiveness:
Amuneke can't be trusted with fish.

In that case, I will definitely make myself available for the job.


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forgiveness:
Is he not the one who fought one oyinbo because he wanted to be sole agent of one player?

From frypan to fire.

John Obuh or we call those FB Nigerians abroad.

Yup. I will go with either Samson Siasia (if he's willing to understudy Rohr with the goal of taking over after Rohr leaves in 2 years) or Emmanuel Amuneke. I was never a big fan of Yusuf ... I've always felt that he was just wasting a slot that should be given to the future SE coach like Siasia or Amuneke.


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BascoVanVeli:
Amunike should drafted into Salisu's position.

Bia, are you on druggzz That dude has no ounce of fat on him! You're ranting about fitness culture concerning a dude who died while playing freaking basketball ball. Looking at him, you'll see that the dude must be very active in sports. You simply don't know what killed him so shut you're traps up, unless you've performed an autopsy to determine the actual cause of death!

#Mugu


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Martinez19:
Heart attack. We need to have a fitness culture in this country. We ignore fitness culture and we are busy chasing money and growing fat.

Haha. Dominique, his statement might not be politically correct but that's a good analogy.

Fact: an average Kenyan marathon runner doesn't have an ounce of fat in his/her body.


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dominique:
That's a very insensitive statement to make.

Apples and oranges. When we talk about raising cows/cattle in a ranch, we're not talking about raising them indoors with zero sun like chickens. Ranch raised cattle/cows are still free range, they still get enough green grass and sun to keep them healthy, minus having them trekking an average of 500 miles per lifetime.


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jonathanOz:
But some people are of the opinion that nomadic cows are more nutritious than those raised in a ranch. Just as local chickens are more nutritious than the agric breed.
Could there be some truth in that?

Really And the cow didn't kick the feck outta him? I don't believe this story!


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Chemistry 91 ... Biology 85! Definitely a potential medical doctor.

Somebody, please, give that boy an admission into med school!


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I don't know about drugs .... never met anyone, but the people I know who tried to quit masturbation by reducing the dosage - eg, going from twice per day to once per day ... down to once per week, were never successful. Hence, in that instance, I would recommend quitting cold turkey and dealing with the withdrawal syndrome. But what do I know ... I've never been in his shoes.

But, all in all, the easiest and most sure way to break any addiction in somebody's life is through prayers (deliverance). The Spirit of the living God has the power to break any addiction in your life. I have seen that happen again and again.


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Earthbound:
Simple. Either you stop cold turkey or you reduce your dosage gradually until you stop. If you need to quit an addiction, you need guts (I've learned so far).