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Na only ipobs neva defect from PDP..


lol.

Ikpongiton:
chicken hearted nigerian soldiers,posing with their dead and claims that,they are boko haram terrorists

Wishing out troops evil and destruction = Back to sender.

Support our troops....

Support our troops..

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lexy2014:
While....??

So after reading all u read which am sure u comprehended, u didn't ask d US govt 2 verify d premium times story? Like u said, am not good at reading & compression. That's y I need u to show me d way.

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Ask Premium Times, the US government and learn how to read and comprehend while you're at it.

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lexy2014:
Y should I ask premium times? U are d king of reading & comprehension. Aren't u? With this ur great ability, I expected that u would have known d name of d executive order signed by d president of US specifically to ban Atiku from stepping foot in d US. With all ur reading & compression, have u seen d said executive order&its contents?

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Ask Premium Times, the US government and learn how to read and comprehend while

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lexy2014:
Keep ur emotions in check. Don't waste it on displaying ur weakness. U will need all d emotion u can muster.

Every executive order comes with a title like this:

Executive Order: Public Alert and Warming System, Signed by George Bush, June 26, 2004.

What is d title of d executive order u say George Bush signed barring Atiku from stepping foot in d US?

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Ask Premium Times, the US government and learn how to read and comprehend while you're at it.

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lexy2014:
Which argument is d silliest? Mine or yours cos I haven't made any argument. Who cares whether d US gives him visa or not? That's APCs headache not mine. I only asked u questions. U are d one who has been arguing that d US is accusing him of money laundering therefore he is a thief. My only enquiry which u have been dodging is simple. If atiku is a thief, were did he steal money from? If he laundered money in d US, were did he get d money that he laundered from. Y is it so difficult 4u to say were Atiku stole money from? If u no he is a thief, u should also b say were he stole from. Is that a problem?

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Still the same silly argument.

lexy2014:
Who signed d executive order banning atiku from entering d US? Are executive orders meant 4 banning people accused of money laundering from entering d US?

Seriously, you don't know how to read and comprehend?

The article is up there, it's bolded and highlighted in red.

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socialmediaman:
Just like it baffles many of us why some people are considering re-electing Buhari. Someone who understands nothing (as in zero) about the economy he’s managing, someone who’s visibly running down the economy, a confirmed hypocrite who fights opposition instead of corruption; does not even understand corruption talk less fighting it, and one of the biggest of them all, a divisive nepotistic leader with archaic unchanging views.

Really, the 2019 election is not about electing Atiku, but more about voting out Buhari and protecting Nigeria’s democracy.

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Wrong thread, this is not about PMB, this is about Atiku and the presidential executive order banning him from entering the USA.

I know you don't like PMB, but PMB remaining in office is up to Nigerians to decide at the polls. Take your PVC to the polls.

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lexy2014:
I have noticed when a lot of u run out of things 2 say, u resort 2 personal attacks in order 2 save face. U have established that atiku is wanted 4 money laundering in d US. But u also keep saying atiku stole money, that means he stole d money he used 4 money laundering from somewhere. So d onus is on u is to establish were he stole d money from instead of getting emotional except u want 2 contradict urself that Atiku didn't steal money and that he isn't a thief

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Ok, Atiku did not steal any money and he did not violate their laws and the USA should just shut up and give him Visa.

Are you happy now.? This is the silliest argument on NL ever..

Apart from his case with the US Senate and the presidential executive order banning Atiku from entering the USA, the FBI/DOJ Jefferson case is still active.

Why some Nigerians are considering this crook baffles me.

They can lobby all they want, but their lobbyists can not over turn an American presidential executive order banning Atiku from entering the USA.


What's even more important here is the reason why he can not go to the USA.

He's a thief, a crook who stole and shipped our money to the USA. He should first clear his name before asking Nigerians for votes.

KenOne:
All this Atiku visiting USA na wash. We'll keep hearing Atiku will, Atiku wants to visit USA untill election.

Do we all remember Gbenga Daniel on national tv channels tv to be precise where he said that they've secured a US visa for Atiku.

If you've secured a visa for Atiku on October as said by Gbenga Daniel why going for another visa on November.

Do we remember Doyin Okupe statement last month November that Atiku will vist USA before November ending.

Please Nigerians may we all ask Doyin Okupe what is today's date December 1st, November has just finished has Atiku gone to USA.

PDP thinks we are babies and have fish brains like them, every day we keep hearing Atiku has applied for visa, Atiku has secured US visa, Atiku will visit USA soon.

Mark my word Atiku will never make such a mistake of visiting USA for now as a former vice president, he'll only vist if and only if he wins 2019 election, then he can visit as incoming president or president by then immunity covers him and America can no longer arrest him again.

Since 2014 we've being hearing Atiku will visit USA when PDP first challenged him to visit. Four (4) years after we are still hearing i will visit. Meanwhile as an ordinary man myself since 2014 i have visited same USA twice.

PDP park well jare!

Corruption: The US Senate report that finally nailed Atiku Abubakar



has received a report on how Atiku was the subject of a probe ten years ago, by a United States Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, chaired by Senator Carl Levin.

The report detailed how Atiku Abubakar while still the vice president of Nigeria between 2000 and 2008, used offshore companies to siphon millions of dollars to his fourth wife in the United States, Jennifer Douglas.

Specifically, the report said Jennifer Douglas, an American citizen, helped her husband bring over $40 million in suspect funds into the United States through wire transfers sent by offshore corporations to U.S. bank accounts.

In 2004, the then President Bush barred Atiku and other corrupt politically exposed persons from being issued visa to the United States

The US Senate probe was motivated by US government concern about corruption in the Third World and its corrosive effects on the development of honest government, democratic principles, and the rule of law.


The report unveiled violations of US laws by Atiku and his fourth wife, Jennifer Douglas. It also included revelations about Siemens bribe paid into one of the accounts, and it possibly provided the basis for Atiku being barred from entering the United States, since then.


https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/12/03/corruption-us-senate-report-finally-nailed-atiku-abubakar/

Atiku violated the laws of the United States Of America and Nigeria, but unlike in NIGERIA, they enforce their laws in the US.

In 2004, the then President Bush barred Atiku and other corrupt politically exposed persons from being issued a visa to the United States.

See why Atiku cannot obtain US Visa?

Executive order laid down by the President of the United States of America. Looters of public funds and criminal elements can get away and evade justice in Nigeria, but not in America. Just like Ibori, he bought his way out of jail in lawless Nigeria, but not in the UK where he couldn't escape justice.

lexy2014:
its a very valid question except u dont no what u are saying or u dont no what 2 say. several times u said d US accused Atiku of money laundering but i asked u several times were did Atiku get d money d US accused him of laundering. funny enough, u avoided answering d question. d obvious fact is that, u are deliberately avoiding answering some pertinent questions cause its going to puncture some of d arguments u have been putting up

Does it really matter where the money came from?

Even if it came from the moon, it landed in the USA and violated their laws. Again, stop asking childish and silly questions.

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lexy2014:
its a very valid question except u dont no what u are saying or u dont no what 2 say. several times u said d US accused Atiku of money laundering but i asked u several times were did Atiku get d money d US accused him of laundering. funny enough, u avoided answering d question. d obvious fact is that, u are deliberately avoiding answering some pertinent questions cause its going to puncture some of d arguments u have been putting up

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You are too far behind and you can not read and comprehend. Please stop quoting me. I don't feel like wasting my time.

lexy2014:
which laws in nigeria did he violate?

Stop asking silly questions.

In 2004, the then President Bush barred Atiku and other corrupt politically exposed persons from being issued a visa to the United States.

Se why Atiku cannot obtain US Visa?

Executive order laid down by the President of the United States of America. Looters of public funds and criminal elements can get away and evade justice in Nigeria, but not in America. Just like Ibori, he bought his way out of jail in lawless Nigeria, but not in the UK where he couldn't escape justice.

lexy2014:
Now if d FBI and "d whole US congress" investigated atiku(don't no how that was possible)&highlighted him 2b one of d most corrupt persons in d world, d question is in which country did he commit these corrupt acts?

Corruption: The US Senate report that finally nailed Atiku Abubakar



has received a report on how Atiku was the subject of a probe ten years ago, by a United States Senate Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations, chaired by Senator Carl Levin.

The report detailed how Atiku Abubakar while still the vice president of Nigeria between 2000 and 2008, used offshore companies to siphon millions of dollars to his fourth wife in the United States, Jennifer Douglas.

Specifically, the report said Jennifer Douglas, an American citizen, helped her husband bring over $40 million in suspect funds into the United States through wire transfers sent by offshore corporations to U.S. bank accounts.

In 2004, the then President Bush barred Atiku and other corrupt politically exposed persons from being issued visa to the United States

The US Senate probe was motivated by US government concern about corruption in the Third World and its corrosive effects on the development of honest government, democratic principles, and the rule of law.


The report unveiled violations of US laws by Atiku and his fourth wife, Jennifer Douglas. It also included revelations about Siemens bribe paid into one of the accounts, and it possibly provided the basis for Atiku being barred from entering the United States, since then.


https://www.pmnewsnigeria.com/2017/12/03/corruption-us-senate-report-finally-nailed-atiku-abubakar/

Atiku violated the laws of the United States Of America and Nigeria, but unlike in NIGERIA, they enforce their laws in the US.

Saraki and juicy positions. Den don take juicy position swear for the man

marvinsync:
they aren't factless , it's quite easy to calculate per capita GDP


GDP divided by population and I get the population would be fairly estimated


and even if they aren't accurate that isn't my point
fact is taken account population of the SE and GDP , the SE is doing better than the SW

Official government data and stats compiled by experts at NBS are facts, not factless internet opinions and topics on Nl.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/8242908_capture_jpeg6d0ce43c2e6495dc5ba7597dd3872afd



https://i.ytimg.com/vi/SB4oS9fjUCQ/hqdefault.jpg





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One looks modern while the other looks primitive.

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codedguy1:
You are easily deceived and that's why indulging you further will be a waste of time.

Those cases you cited have on even before you anti corruption tsar came to office.

You yourself read the news and identify the amount of corruption cases that have emanated from this govt alone.

I Dont need to mention cases because you claim to read and and you know them except zombieism has eaten your brain.

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Just like the current administration is completing abandoned projects all over Nigeria , they are also sending crooks and criminals to jail, the same criminals the PDP kept within the court system for years and decades without any judgement.

dokie:
The sale if Nitel caused job losses for many Nitel staff. But it and the sale of other government run companies showed government's interest in having a private sector driven economy. This gave rise to massive investments by foriegn companies in the telecom sector and thereby creating a real telecom industry which has created millions of jobs ( and many of the defunct nitel staff were reemployed) as well as entrepreneurs.

If Atiku has a case with the FBI, they should lock him up when he gets to America. Until then, its just an allegation.

If Nitel staff were not paid there pensions, they should be in court as we speak. And in dye course, they'll get their entitlements.

1. Atiku selling Nitel and telecom companies are totally unrelated so stop mixing apples and oranges.

2. What happened to the $900 million collected from the sales and why didn't he pay the workers their pensions?

3. Not paying the workers their earned pension was gross dereliction and abdication of responsibilities, it was lack of care and concern, even immoral. Asking then to sue their own leaders for what they are entitled to reflects your own bad judgment.

..but luckily for Nigerians, their president today showed leadership and courage by doing past PDP leaders couldn't do..

4. You can spin it any way you fancy, at the end need if the day, Atiku still can not obtain American Visa because he is an undesirable element and unfit to enter the USA due to corruption and criminal activities like money laundering.

5. His issue is not just with the FBI, the whole US Congress investigated and highlighted Atiku as one of the most corrupt people in the world.

Why people like you support and defend such characters baffles me, but anything is possible in Nigeria where people replace facts with tribal and political sentiments.

codedguy1:
You call this fight against corruption. OK no problem.

Do you have other reasons why they were sent to jail if not for corruption? Read the news and follow current affairs before arguing blindly on the internet.

codedguy1:
Why he cannot get a US visa or why has not gotten a US visa for a decade. Which one is your problem

The reason why I can and he can not is my problem as a Nigerian. He can not get an American Visa because he engaged in criminal activities and as a Nigerian, such crooked and corrupt individual should never be allowed to rule Nigeria.

Its the prerogative of the US to issues visas to whom ever they want to. If atiku has not gotten a visa in over a decade and the US decides to give him one Dont you think the reason he didn't get it in over a decade has been resolved.

@ this very second, his case is still pending in America, he's still on the no-fly and no Visa list imposed by the US and still can not obtain an American Visa. PERIOD.

How do you know that the reason you think he did not get a visa for over a decade is the same reason the US did not grant him a visa.

We know the reason why the US refused to give him Visa, we know and have read official US Congress investigation and conclusion against him, we have read the FBI affidavit and reports of the criminal investigation against him.

Obviously, you have not and you don't know anything, you are just arguing blindly.

If your reason is corruption why has the US not asked the buhari govt to hand him over to go face charges over there.

Ask the Americans. Maybe banning and preventing Atiku from entering their country is enough punishment.

Or tell us, which reason did the US tell you they did not grant him visa and maybe they will tell you why they seem to want to give him a visa now.

He can not get any Visa because he's on their ban list. PERIOD.

codedguy1:
Mr man how has Mr integrity and anti corruption champion fought corruption since 2015. Who has been jailed or convicted.

How has health, education, power and infrastructure improved since the fight of corruption started in 2015?

I agree corruption is the biggest disease in Nigeria but how has the one that used it as one of his core points managed corruption within his closest allies.

2 APC members and former governors were convicted and sent to prison and another APC member and former governor Kalu is on trial.


It's obvious that you don't read and you don't follow current affairs.

codedguy1:
Idealogical or whatever you call yourself. You have no idea or logic in you at all.

Is APC not supposed to be happy that atiku will go yo the us and he would be arrested.

I have said it before, if atiku eventually gets the visa and goes to US and is arrested APC will jubilate but if he gets it and decides not to go they will start another "why has he not gone" meanwhile the guy wants to get a visa to go to the Same US they are daring him to go they are crying.

I just tire for these people.

The issue is not if's or your hopes and dreams about Atiku getting an American Visa, the main issue is why you can get an American Visa and the man you want to vote for to run your life can not.

At this very second and since over a decade ago, Atiku cannot get an American Visa.

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SmilingMary:
If all u mentioned WAS true, why haven't EFCC taken up the case? Na online una for dey yan rubbish....

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The topic is Atiku Vs USA and his inability to obtain an America Visa because of the money laundering and criminal case against Atiku in the USA.

Start your own topic about the EFCC and Atiku.

marvinsync:
I don't really have time to do the research myself but check out this links


https://madailygist.ng/top-20-richest-states-in-nigeria-see-the-gdp-per-capita-of-each-state-pics/

https://www.nairaland.com/1350005/richest-states-nigeria-gdp-per


look at their per capita GDP you'll see that even Abia has a higher per capita GDP than oyo state which is the second SW state with the highest GDP ( that is, other than Lagos)

Factless links, opinions and NL topic from 2013?

Are you serious? Please stop.

marvinsync:
that's why I added "u could say". because it's not an accurate thing to say

so I should instead say that a lot of the GDP and IGR in the SW belongs to "SEasterners" and any attempt to degrade southeast or SEasterners is bullsh!t

Makes no sense and that shouldn't be part of the discussion.


I know you are arguing against facts because of tribal pride, but the facts are not on your side.

lexy2014:
If d US is accusing him of stealing, that means whatever money he stole came from Nigeria. Or did he steal anything in d US? If that is d case what has this anti-corruption govt done in liaising with d US 2 bring charges against atiku here in Nigeria?

The US is involved because Americans, American companies and banking system are involved. Atiku violated their laws.