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humility33:
Mazi so nwakali is in La Liga
Which team is he playing for please

Compare segunda B player who barely get full starts and a championship regular then tell me who amongst them deserve SE call up

Nwakali is a Nigerian and must get preferential treatment just like other countries treat their own....Olise is NOT Nigerian!

do4luv14:
how is it unfair show me his U-17 mates, then I will tell you what's unfair

Out of the 2015 U17 set how many made it to top flight? Nwakali has managed to keep hope alive first Laliga then Segunda, while some of his mates have disappeared to unknown leagues. Where is Orji Okonkwo , Bamgboye , Osinachi Ebere? Rohr has invited some players that has no business in the super eagles but you guys kept quiet....lol

do4luv14:
but Nwakali no try sha, he is just kick starting his career back again,

Your attitude towards Nwakali is unfair because you are just making a vague statement. You meant he doesn't want to better himself and all he do is sit down and eat all day.....come on brother

humility33:
Mazi with all due respect
This your opinion is flawed with sentiments

Olise as at now is better than nwakali when it comes to football

That's your opinion just like many Nacho should start games but the coach prefers a different line up. I rate Nwakali higher than Olise and Ejaria. Call it sentiment or preference for certain quality, na you sabi.

solonnachi:
There are reports that Frank Onyeka and Kevin Akpoguma made the list against CAR

Onyeka should take Etebo's place.

jihday:
the fact that you think Nwakali is a laliga player sums it up

Ok , I have made the correction. I still rate Segunda above Championship. Do you have any problems with my choices ?

do4luv14:
I think its all about preference

Nwakali is more talented than Oliseh and Ejaria...let Rohr invite the English boys. Na this same people go insult them.

Samueltemi337:
The same nwakali I know or another one?

I have corrected the mistake. Case closed.

humility33:

This man mata weak me that was how he hypeAzuibuike modric iniesta ahead of ndidi and hate ndidi for no reason unknow to him that even if Rohr is to name 15 midfielders Azuibuike will still not make the list because he dont deserve to
If he was the coach ehh he will liter the team with carpenters and bricklayers from all over.

Stop writing trash , nwokem. I don't hate Ndidi , I just prefer a ball playing DM. Additionally , I never called for Zuby's inclusion if he is not performing at his club.

I was simply comparing their abilities and style. And , I will say it again in case you want to hang your self....I prefer an inform Zuby to Ndidi.

Sorry , Segunda.

humility33:
Mazi pls don't be mischievous
Compare Your nwakali stats with that of Ejaria this season leave sentiment aside

How many goals have your nwakali scored Ejaria have score like 3 goals

Sometimes good we argue with facts and not sentiments

Don't be silly , nwanne. Compare Laliga to Championship....smh

Who do you guys suddenly lose your thinking abilities when situations don't favor you. You would actually compare Ejaria to Nwakali , right now ?

Samueltemi337:
Who is this la Liga player you speak of?

Kelechi Nwakali. Him and Amoo are the most talented midfielder controllers Nigeria currently boast of....no one else

solonnachi:
It seems its just one. I am feeling it may either be Lookman, Ejaria or Olise

So , Nwakali doesn't deserve an invite after performing in the Laliga ? That's just unfair.

Firstly , people concluded his career was dead and he proved them wrong and returned with decent showings. Then , they said he is too sluggish but the numbers show otherwise. Then Kingsley was invited out of nowhere with no club action and suddenly everyone who called me names for sticking my neck out for Nwakali is quiet. Now , Ejaria and Oliseh are being clamored for and what about Kelechi....

I don't know how any football pundit would think these English boys will make it in Super Eagles.....nobi today.

12large1:
Unknown report from owngoal is saying that a new addition will be included in super eagles squad tomorrow. Many are suggesting that it’s either Ejaria or lookman. Personally, I hope it’s ejaria because we have so many similar players to lookman. If ejaria is included, then the search for super eagles 10 is over. Ejaria isn’t a jj okocha, but he is as good as any creative 10 in Africa now

Does Ejaria not play in Championship ? Why would any sensible coach skip a player who plays for Laliga , week in week out for a Championship player ? This is preposterous , I swear !

afube:
Anambra and Imo states did not exist prior to 1976 you illiterate loafer! read and be enlightened you will not.................age verification is sourly needed on this forum.......where can I buy a digital online cane, some people truly need some sense whipped into them!

You guys always pull this line of argument when you want to lump everybody together as if there aren't any visible differences between Anambra and Imo. But when it comes to who benefits from state's resources you suddenly remember who is not from Imo. Enugu and Abia have sacked non indigen employees and nobody died. You can still be Igbo and benefit from your state of origin.

Ijaw ogogoro drinkers go hear am! It's better you people keep quiet and get some empathy than to start dragging lands with people who are way more powerful than you...lol

Philosopher1979:
Musa was lucky as he was a product of the famous gbs academy that also gave us Samuel kalu, moses Simon etc. Also he was very young when he left the npfl and so he had the time to learn.
I strongly believe iwuala will make it as he has already scored a goal and win a trophy in Tunisia. He will be like utaja or amunike who went to Europe after a strong showing in North Africa

Very succinctly put, my guy. At least , we still have people that understands the underlying problems bedeviling our local league. If they are young enough to travel out and develop their talents like the U17 boys like Awoniyi, Nacho , Chukwueze and company then you have a chance in mounding a complete player but if they struggled to make ends meet until they leave the country in their 30s like Uzoenyi , Aneke, Mba, Egwuekwe then na hustling things.

I have cried enough for our local league but I have also learned something in the process; as long as Nigeria remains in its current state the professional local league will remain an eyesore.

Subzero047:
Which talent, you call dribbling against children talent, Musa held his own at the world stage for a number of years, that is talent

If you knew Uzoenyi from his Rangers days then you would not say this. The boy had great potential that was never developed.

Danielnino00:
Talent wise, Uzoenyi was one of the best to ever come out of the NPFL...More talented than Musa,IMO.... But that's life...

You aren't wrong but he was much older than Musa before he hit national limelight. Therefore , the likes of Musa , Etebor , Azubike Okechukwu etc had more time to learn new tricks. Age is a big factor in football.

Tolulopefinest:
What, Ejike uzoenyi was such a gem that year. A lot of Nigerians mounted pressure on Steven keshi to add him to the world cup list of 2014 and he Succumbed. He really deserved it. Where did it all gone wrong?

I thought we've got our Messi then. What really happened to him?

Its the Nigerian league phenomena. These players arent well groomed due to greed and impatience on the part of the club owners. They pick the players up and without much preparations the players are introduced into the amateurish and mediocre Nigerian league where their talent stagnate. At the end , what you have is a players with potentials that never developed fully. They continue playing in the league until the usual invite to national team where they often show those flashes of brilliance but at this time they are probably in their 30s and in another two to three years the party is over.

This happened to Ahmed Musa (yes Musa plays rubbish 70% of the time), Uzoenyi , Kolanut boy , Jude Aneke , Sunday Mba etc. Iwuala might still go that route. Nigerian league is shhit.

samuk:
You are empty upstairs, give it a rest.

Keep , quiet Igbinosa! If you can't stand the heat leave the kitchen.

samuk:
You are the one that is foolish otherwise you would have understood my point that most notable personalities from Zik to Igwe Achebe in Igbo land traces their history/ancestry to somewhere outside of Igbo land.

People like yourself are killing yourself for nothing whenever you hear of such history.

Your initial outburst was due to extract from Zik's autobiography where he claimed Benin ancestry, now you have also heard from Igwe Achebe, hope you don't hug a transformer.

You are still daft and senseless in your argument because Igbo didn't germinate from the soil , we all came from somewhere that was not originally Igbo land. This also goes for the Yoruba , Fulani , Edoid , Igala etc. People migrate according to economic situations. A monkey even understands this phenomena.

Now , did you say "most notable personalities" ? What does that even mean ? Is Zik and Achebe equal to "most" and even if they are , are they no longer Igbo ? Why are you dragging my people with me ? You posted a video of Obi Achebe saying Onicha started its journey from Ado , in Ile-Ife then stopped at Bini before their final movement to Anambra after the war with your people who didn't welcome the Igbo strangers.

Am inclined to ask why you are so concerned with the identity of an Igbo group who speak Igbo , eat Igbo food , dance Igbo dance , suffered from the same hate meted on the Igbo ? What do you Bini coccckroaches want ?

samuk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrxQKyPh7I8

LMAO...you posted an interview done in Igbo but I don't think you understand Igbo, to begin with. Reason why I called you daft. If you understood what Obi Achebe's narratives why then are you saying Onicha has Bini ancestry ? Are you not ffoolish??

samuk:
MEET YOUR ILLAH IGALA PEOPLE
Illah is a town in Delta state. It is made up of Igala and other tribes. The Igala part is called Azanoma.
Azanoma was founded by Prince Asaga and Prince Onaje, both are children of Attah Ayegba Oma Idoko.
Around 15th century, Prince Asaga was sent by his father, Attah Ayegba, to follow the newly crowned Obi Igbo from Idah to Illah to teach Obi's people some music, dances and how to beat ogidi gbo (wooden gong). Due to the hospitality nature of the Illah people he met, he settled down and refused to go back to Idah as his father instructed him to. Staying too long, Attah Ayegba became unsettled and then sent his younger brother, Onaje to go and look for him, and bring him back home. On reaching there, Onaje saw his brother doing very well and very happy with the friendly nature of the people. Onaje was well received by them, and seeing their hospitality too, he didn't go back to but stayed with his elder brother. They both married and formed the Azanoma (Illah Igala) although others said it was formed by/with by Otakpe, another son of Attah Ayegba (which is not my point here to say who is right or not but to identify and reconnect them to Igala in the ancestral home, Idah).
Today, the king of Azanoma is Eze Nmo (Chief Michael Eddoh) and assisted by Agaba Idu (second in command). The present Agaba Idu is of Asaga lineage. His name is Chief Chikweh Maduka. All the cultural activities of Igala are till today carried out by Illah Igala. Although, most of them can no longer speak Igala due to just two person in the midst of many strange people and long stay in foreign land, Igala language is used in most cultural festivals. Thanks to Sir Paul Onelum and sir Emmanuel Ofili, both of Illah Igala for their efforts. And do you know what, Pa Paul Onelum has Igala native uniform, and to let you know also, some Illah Igala adults are currently receiving Igala language lessons to allow them teach their family members. Let this Igala lesson be emulated by other indigenous Igala across the world. Igala blood remains the same, help me welcome Illah Igala home again. Me wola odudu chaka.
I'm Ayegba, and our reunion is my priority, pls join me. Share to inform other Igalas we are there too.

Bini boy , what the fucck is the point of this twisted and senseless story. So , you Bini people who are yet to win Gelegele back from Ijaw is busy peddling tiny bit and incomplete history of Illah as if Illah people needed your help...lol. Face your problems and leave Illah people alone. Guess what , Onicha , Aguleri , Obosi , Ogbaru etc had Igala migrants , too. Does that make them Igala ? Since Bini also has Igbo migrants that has acculturated into Bini culture does that make Bini an Igbo town ?

Are you Bini people this dense in the brain or what ?

samuk:
You are wasting your time barking at the wrong tree. Take your grievances to your Igbo people that claim Benin descent.

Anybody who claim Bini ancestry is welcomed to leave because Bini land started and ended in Bini. This matter has been over flogged and they are still speaking Igbo , worshipping at Igbo shrines , singing and chanting in Igbo ....how else does one become Igbo...lol

samuk:
I am sure Zik left behind descendants, channel your grievances to them.

We have nothing to discuss because apart from your usual outburst, you lack substance. If you were to be engaged further now, you will not bring anything meaningful to the discussion other than insults, so, I have no time to waste with you, even your leader Nnamdi Kanu acknowledges Benin greatness.

When you are done fighting Zik's descendants in Anambra state, you can head to Oguta in Imo state and challenge them on their Benin history as narrated below. Enjoy the video.

https://www.google.com/url?q=https://www.bbc.com/igbo/afirika-48565792&sa=U&ved=2ahUKEwiPgLLynb7tAhXI2qQKHaWeBrQQFjAOegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw3am-fbxDHnMAVrzuqkDP9h

You cant possibly be this daft. Why would I spend time debating a dense brain like you. Its really pointless arguing about Igbo people origin with a Bini man....lol. Come and take Oguta and Onicha nah.

Umuezechima did not start and ended at Onicha....there is Onicha Ukwu , Onicha Olona , Onicha Ugbo , Iselle Asaba ,Iselle Mkpitima etc . They are all Umuezechima closer to you than Onicha Mmili. Start claiming and converting those ones to Bini because they are closed closer to you. You think this is a ludo game.

samuk:
Benin trolls?? You are actually the troll here on a thread posted by me.

Your modus operandi is to run away when challenged to substantiate your claims.

You claimed Zik wrote something in the 1930s that contradicted his 1970 autobiography where he claimed Benin ancestry, I simply requested that you provide the 1930 write up for the audience to read, you are throwing tantrums.

Are you people cursed to lie till eternity or what. I was on the same thread where Redbonesmith posted the screen shot and you saw it and acted like you are dumb , now you are arguing like a deranged man. What is wrong with you Bini people...dem do una?

samuk:
Adesuwa and Obi of UBULU-UKU history is a very popular history, it was even made into a nollywood movie as you have confirmed yourself. Obi olise head was said to have been publicly displayed in Benin for seven days.

I have never heard that Obi Olise survived the war.

Secondly, this is not the first time you've heard a contrary view on Benin/Anioma/Igbo history, there has been atleast two previous occasions you have promised to provide evidence of your claims without fulfilling your promise.

I wouldn't be surprised if there is no tradition in UBULU-UKU confirming what you have just claimed.

1. When I first posted an extract from Dr Nnamdi Azikiwe autobiography where he claimed that his ancestors were from the royal household of Benin, you claimed you have Zik's writings from the 1940s that contradicted his 1970 autobiography, based on your claim others have made the same claim, I have repeatedly requested from you and others that copied you for the said 1940s Zik writings but you are yet to provide it.

2. When I posted the 1875 Ajayi Crowder eyewitness accounts of the aboriginal Asaba people claiming to have migrated from Benin, Ajayi Crowder was on ground in Asaba and interviewed the indigines. He wrote that there were recent migrants from the east who had come to join the older Benin migrants. You wrote that you have a contrary writing that traces the Asaba aboriginal people to east of the Niger. I requested for your evidence, again, you have not yet provided it.

There is actually nothing wrong in holding a contrary opinion, the problem is when such contrary opinion is based on anti Benin sentiments and designed to deceive the less informed about the subject/history. I have cited two examples above were you have in the past made contrary opinions but failed to substantiate your claims despite promising to provide evidence.

There are other examples where you sneered at core easterners that narrate/inquire about Benin heard tradition, folklore and history in their Igbo towns and villages. You are always quick to tell them how such is not important. All these are apart from the tacit support you give to your fellow Yoruba revisionists friends whenever you think you can get away with it.

The reasons above is why I take this your so called UBULU-UKU tradition/version with a pitch of salt.

Cheers.

You always embrace these Bini-centric version because it makes you feel good and boosts your little ego but when you are presented with verifiable versions you act like you suddenly lost comprehension abilities.

How can Bini found Asaba yet you have absolutely nothing in common with Asaba. Are you Bini not ashamed you claimed to have operated an empire that encompasses all southern Nigeria yet not a single ffucking remnants to show for your claims.

You sit in your Bini village claiming Onicha yet you know nothing about Onicha from the beginning...it hurts to be this pathetic. Tomorrow it is Ikwerre but when you are pressed for evidence you start running around like a headless chicken. You guys are just realizing your so called "empire" was actually a Chiefdom that was scared to venture eastward....lol

The guy is mentally deranged...i don't even open his threads

Captain8:
no, ebonyi is a different ethnicity with it own languages.... anambrans are the real iboes..... don't pity words to speak since they don't pity their own.....don't defend yourself, just attack them....... attack them the simple truth...

onisha is another example of igbos differences because they called obi not eze....
iboe is the real ethnicity and it is in anambra..... igbo is politically created ethnicity....
take the attack to their domain, they defend.....

I am from Anambra and you are ffucking sick in the head. There is nothing like "real Igbo" and the standard Igbo is based off Imo/Abia dialects, you rretarded.

Onicha are from the western Igbo extraction and use Obi , accordingly. Igbo is diverse that's the beauty of our culture. What we practice in Anambra like Otu Odu is almost non existent in Imo , Enugu , Ebonyi and Abia...only Anioma because of proximity to Anambra. You are one hell of a confused man. You can never understand Igbo.

RobbStark:
I really do not have the time to go back n forth with them.
They are a bunch of frustrated miscreants who only rant in a forum like this.
Since I asked them to come and take Opobo n Bonny, they cudnt even say when they are coming.

They are just an e-miscreants

Opobo and Ubani/Bonny speak Igbo language as their first language , and were they ever lost before. You can never annex these towns...only in the fickle of your imagination. We Igbo have waken and we want to see how you flex that your tiny muscles...ogogoro empty brains!

RobbStark:
My fellow Ijaw brothers in this thread, I salute your resilience in putting this dummy's from the East aka landgrabbers in their places.

No need sweating and going back n forth with them, they reason like their detained leader.

Ijaws, just know that all their ranting and thread opening ends here. No where e reach.

Obama, ibama.
Long live the Ijaw Nation.
Nnuo-a oo

You guys are really delusional...imaging a tribe of 1.5 million people that are mostly uneducated and drunks "putting a mighty and powerful Igbo in their place" .....what a nerve! Internet has given voices to nonentities to yap nonsense.