dominicson:

Imule 2: Osa Eleye

Igbin apinnu meji, otutu opon, sefunsefun, aluki, ajeobale, iyere.



Psalm:

Alagada nla l'oruko ti a n pe ifa. Araba-tasi l'oruko ti a n pe ile. Ti a ba fi efun fun aye, ara aye a ya gaga. Ti a ba s'epe (curse) so Ogun, ara ogun a le koko. Ogun aseje, awo won lootu Ife, oun l'obi Atepe, Atepe l'obi ile. Nje okunrin l'o ba ni kin ma t'ele yi pe, ki o ku bi aja se n ku ti oun ti ogboro. Agbalagba l'o ba ni ki n ma tele yii pe, ki o ku bi aguntan se ku ti oun ti bolobolo enu re. Ti o ba se pe eyin aje gan ni e wipe ki n ma t'ele yi pe, ki eku bi adire opipi se n ku ti oun ti agada ese re mejeji. Enikeni ti o ba so wipe ki n ma te ile yi pe, ona odi, ona odi ni ki won ma gba lo s'orun. Eye s'eye, o fi apa se eye. Eye s'eye, o fi ese se eye. Eye fo omo owu alagbede pomu. Eye wo(enter) ile Alara, o pa omo Alara. Eye wo ile Ajero, o pa omo Ajero. Eye wo ile Orangun ile Ila, o pa omo Orangun ile Ila. Won ni nibo ni ile awon babalawo to gbo'ju kun si? Won wa k'ori (face) si ile olori Ajangbo-wewe tii se awo ile Alara, eye pa! Bobo-l'aguntan-wo ti se awo ile Ajero, eye pa! Won wa k'ori si ile Aforikori-oke tii se awo Orangun ile Ila, o yan kete, eye pa! Won wa f'abo si ile Orunmila, won ni awon wa wo(pull down) ile re, awon wa pa omo re, awon wa pa aya re, awon wa pa molebi re. Orunmila ni eewo! Orunmila ni oun yoo so oruko yin fun yin nisisiyi. Won ni iro ni, won ni ko si eniti o mo oruko awon laye mo. Orunmila ni sebi Atidisoro l'oruko iya(mother) yin je. Sebi Atedojokan l'oruko ti baba yin je. Sebi Owale-karakara l'oruko ti eyin gan paapa n je. Won ni o di oro imule, won ni ki Orunmila o ke si Otutu-opon, ko kesi Sefunsefun, ki o wa pe Osa meji dani. Won ni ki Orunmila fise Igbin meji yii je. Won ni gbogbo eniti o ba je obe yi ti di eni owo. Won ni ti erin(elephant) ba je oko titi, a fi ewe aluki si le. Bi efon naa ba je oko titi, i fi aluki s'oto ni. Aje kan kii gboju-gboju ko ba sori igi ajeobale, gbogbo ara ni sefunsefun fi sefun aje, ki ile mi o kun fun aje(wealth), ki awon eleye fi owo t'emi wo mi. Oun kohun ti mo ba ti pe ni ko ma je mi.

healthFirst:
Though, I have resolved not to respond to anything you say on this thread, let me make this clear...I do not know the issue you are referring to...all I know is that 2 of you i.e ifankaleluya and OnileIfa were going to turn the thread to a battleground beside the fact that both of you were flagrantly disobeying the rules of the thread and as the owner of the thread, I have the right to caution both of you, which I did but since then, you have been saying all sorts from outright blackmail and calling me a fraud. I decided not to exchange words with you for two main reasons; 1. This thread is my own, I conceived the idea and I do not want it to be a still-born by engaging you in a lettered altercation which would have turned the thread to a battleground. I think it'd be immature, unreasonable and I'm far above that. 2. Because I actually do not know exactly what your grouse is...was it because I exercise my responsibility of cautioning the two of you? I know I have never met you in real life...mio gba iyawo e bee na o gba mi niyawo ka so pe boya inkan to fa niyen. Anyway, you know best.

Having said that, I therefore do not know what issue you said some people have talked to you about. As far as I am concerned, I want to urge you to continue to do what you have been doing...continue the slander and the blackmail as long as you can, for me, I'll continue to remain myself, when it's time to do whatever I wish to do, I'll do so. There's no such thing as endlessly...everything must come to an end one day. Maybe, it's time to stop the 'Father Christmas' I have been acting on this thread.

You called me a fraud at every opportunity you have but my way of responding to that is that I'm using this opportunity to call on anyone that I may have collected money fraudulently from to open up and say it here that healthfirst defrauded him/her so that it may be known by all and sundry whether what ifankaleluya has been saying is true or it's just an attempt on his part to gain cheap popularity.

I will not respond to any reaction to what I just said above wether to ifankaleluya or any other person.

dominicson:
Ogbeguda

Bibinu oba ki i dara

Ija agba meji ko san

Won ni ki enikan ko mu suuru bi okan ba mbinu

A difa fun Osan, a bu fun Oru ti won ni ki won o rubo ki won ma ri ara won fin

Ela boru, Ela boye, Ela bosise!

Zenlife:
@Ifankaleluya
Baba ejowo e funwa ni oogun ki iyawo mon se bi oko ba ti fe ni gbogbo igba. E seun. Edumare a to ju yin fun wa o. Ewe a je o.

dominicson:










Ifa, in Iwori meji says:

A pa ewure tan, a yan egungun re lodi

Beeni ninu eran ni egungun n gbe

Won pa esin(horse), won fi esin je, a si yan egungun re lodi...

Ehin/eyin erin l'ola, awo ara re ko n'iyi

Iwo efon ni ola, eran ara re kii n'iyi

A difa fun kiniun, a bu fun ekun, ti oku won yi o d'oku oba

Ekun ru eku ago, kiniun ru eku afe

Nje a kii fi ago b'ori, a kii f'afe b'orisa

Ko si eniti n wipe eran ekun ni ifa oun gba: eewo orisa, a kii fi kiniun b'orisa


Ela boru, Ela boye, Ela bosise!


I think it's time we resolved this issue behind the scene. Or have we anything to gain disparaging ourselves in the eyes of toddlers/neophytes in mysticism? Ete awo, our elders would say, erin ogberi. But ogbo(do-do)/ogberi too should note, before they sneer, as Ifa rightly pointed out in Iworidi, "Iwori wodu, a difa fun ofidan ti ko gba, ti ko te, ti n lo f'oju wo odu, ti oju re yoo fo..."

If we are not very careful, we may end up destroying people whose lives we intend to build by writing/saying things they are not supposed to hear.

So, Ifakunle and HealthFirst, I won't ask you to eat 'Ebure', lest you tell me that ebure is 'eran ohun' but mo fi Orunmila, Olofin ati Onile-Ogboduora be yin, let's talk this out as initiates.

Ayomidegbenga1:


Ejowo Baba Tailor ni mi mo need ogun ti maa fi ni omo ekose(Apprentice)pupo. Eseun baba

ONILEIFA:
PLEASE MR Ifankaleluya DON'T LET THEM DELETE THIS TREAD I WILL LIKE YOU TO CREATE YOUR OWN TREAD IT FREE AND LEAVE THIS ONE FOR IT OWNER WHY YOU ARE BEHAVING LIKE DONALD TRUMP YOU TOO VOCAL ON IFA MATTER NOBODY KNOW IT ALL EVEN IF HE BUY BOOK AND COPY AND PASTE WE HAVE DO SOME WORKS HE GIVE OUT AND IT WORK PERFECT SO GO AND PULL YOUR OWN TREAD WE WILL COME THERE AND JOIN YOU THERE LEAVE THIS ALONE TO THE OWNER...........Ifankaleluya E DA RI JI MI KE TO RI BA BA JE EKO A UN DA RI JI EWE NI OO.

sammyjay76:

I think we don't know the truth any more here, pls for the sake of clarity let us have a rebuild of truth in this thread.
If something is not right let us address it and keep to the right and genuine. ''Owo ekun won ki fi raja erin ''
Eje he ka je ki awon Ogun ati ajo Lori thread yi je ojulowo.
Eseun.

skamo74:

Baba pls according to Zenlife teach us any useful things on ewe ati Egbo. since you answered him you've been talking more on Ifa than teaches us ogun and you're more interested in Ifa challenge with Baba health first and most of your useful Ogun is not complete here with the excuse that you don't want people to sell it.

I know you want people to know more truth about IFA, i know you're an intelligent and learned man, so I suggest you start maybe ( IMO NIPA IFA ATI IWULO RE ) or any other name you may think of. You may even make your publication here.

this is my view

thanks


I do not come on this thread to make any publication,but only came to shed-light.

My intent was to let you people know the truth & correct some wrongs that has came up on this thread.

I'd resolved to teach you people so many good things that will be useful for your daily living,but,after I sat back & watch the activities on this thread,I had to review my intent.

Now,when he(healthfirst) noticed we have halted the sales of his book here by telling people the truth& the truth prevailed,he resolved to delete this thread&start a blog. I know this will happen,& that was my fears before,so,if i put anything here to teach you people,he'll compiles it & transfer it to his blog,even adds it to his book to lure people.

Zenlife:
@healthfirst
hopefully it is not this thread you have in mind and made inquiry to the mod in the general section of deleting, ''LILO EWE ATI EGBO FUN IWOSAN, ITUSILE ATI ASEYORI'' lest it will be insensitive, callous and selfish...considering its many benefits and services to the people. And why do so if it is. that is if the original true 'honest' intent is to help the people as stated in your intro lines and not just to sell your book. I thus implore you, even if you can, despite your displeasure at some recent developments on the thread with some users not to be a spoiler and delete this thread. HONOR AND VIRTUE, If however it is not the above stated thread intended, then do excuse me.

dominicson:




Ope (do do) te ju mo mi, ko wo mi re
Ela te ju mo mi, ko wo mi re
Ori te ju mo mi, ko wo mi re
Eni t'o ba te ju mo, iru won ni l'aje
Eni t'o ba te ju mo, iru won ni l'aya
Eni t'o ba te ju mo, iru won ni di ogbo
Ope te ju mo mi, ki o wo mi re...

Ela boru, Ela boye, Ela bosise!

skypeme:


ni bi odun melo kan seyin mo se alaba pade alfa kan fun iran lowo ati se aseyori, alfa ti mon so oro e yi si se jamba fun mi, gbo gbo aje sara ati iso to wa lara mi ni alfa yi baje. mo wa di eni ti ogun tete ran lese kese.

jbabas:
Ekaale Baba,
E jowo, Oogun wo la ma fi nko ifa oore tabi oro ti a o ko moni?
jbabas

sammyjay76:

Edakun e se alaye omo owu yen Dada, se owu lagbede ni abi ewo?
Eseun.

kuddus:
ejo nitori olohun

Oluokunoluwole:
baba kilode ti mo email yin ti e o funmi lesi ohun ti mo bere fun,mobeyin e damilohun awon nkan ti mo bere fun ifa agbeyin oo

wale259:
E se baba,Eledumare oni fi yin sile nigba kankan...se mo le lo fun omo mi na bi omo odun meta

wale259:
Baba ifankaleluya,ta ba te ni ifa yen tan,se. Ko ni gbolohun kankan,se o ti di wiwe ni yen,nigba gbogbo abi?

wale259:
Baba e jo se ewedu na ni Ewe-ooyo ati wipe se a le fi agbon yen se sara fun onibara tabi awon agbalagba ta ba ri awon omo kekere ni aye lewu baba.wiwe ose yi nigbagbo?

wale259:
Baba e jowo e fun mi ni ifa isoye,e fi sanu fun mi....email me re waleadewale2002@yahoo.com