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vooks:
Abuamam,
Briefly, summarize the most prominent various tafsirs/commentaries that 'favour' you and their respective DATES

Cc: BabaGnoni,ifeann,truthman2012

He isn't goin to be able to tell u anything. He sends u to go read from his scholars as if they give a sensible explanation. this is the Muslims predicament. The quran says it is clear several times in its verses yet it is filled with stark contradictions and silly stories .. It even says sp.erm comes from the waist area among many other scientific fallacies.

So abuamam will say go to my scholars for explanation and exegesis of early muslim commentary just to justify a silly claim by the quran.. Mohammed tot the sun sets in muddy water because at that time humans tot the world was flat hence if the sunsets to cool down it should be in water.


Abuamam why are u still a muslim. If u can't defend ur book with ur "wealth" of knowledge why are u still a muslim.

roqchiq:
Me i don tire,seriously.

Hey friend.
What u are doing now is called asking the right questions.

U are tired of all the Bull.sh.it Muslims tell u about how peaceful they are yet christains are sentenced to death for desecrating the quran, leaving Islam or criticizing Mohammed etc
in Islamic countries. Or how non Muslims are murdered by groups like BH, Taliban , al queda, ISIS etc

My friend u need to start following my posts and those of people like truthman2012 or malvisguy212 and even this honest muslim usermane and u will see why these exist in Islam.

I was the first to post about the Japanese journalist, within seconds of the news breaking. Was surprised it didn't make front page. U should stand agaisnt information black out. This isn't china.

vooks:
Does the Quran actually say this?
http://www.answering-islam.org/authors/cornelius/sun_in_muddy_pool.html

Yeah it does

The quran teaches the sun goes to a pool of muddy water when it sets. ..
Isn't that laughable..

Modern translations put in bracket "as if".. they add to the quran as if they know more than alllah. .


I will show u below S. 18:83-91

Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it [as if] setting in a spring of dark mud, and he found near it a people. Allah said, "O Dhul-Qarnayn, either you punish [them] or else adopt among them [a way of] goodness."

truthman2012:
You see, I started opposing islam since I was a young man about 40 years ago..

40 years. . Wow. .u must be old. . And very experienced... no wonder u hardly argue here. ..

Weah96:
There is a disease called mad cow disease, fatal in almost all cases, and it is transmitted from one human to the other like HIV is. It originates from bovine creatures. Bats, unlike birds, are mammals. Mammalian diseases spread easier among mammals period.

http://www.farmandranchguide.com/news/livestock/what-does-a-cattle-disease-look-like-in-a-human/article_41f0aeac-4b80-11e1-a531-0019bb2963f4.html


The animal of choice for any type of research right now is the rat because rats are also translational research animals, like most mammals are. The preferred animals are monkeys, or apes, but ethics prohibit the practice.

I was a boy when I realized that the texture of the skin of the pig resembled that of white people and some Arabs. Black people have no problem with swine as long as it is cooked well. Drinking an excessive amount of pure water can cause death, as can consistently eating pork meat like a glutton.

Very accurate explanations...No matter what u tell the dude he won't agree. . Mohammedians don't accept evidence or clearly explained facts ...only what Mohammed recited

Muslims are known to use lies, deceit and half truths to propagate islam in form of al taqiyyah and kitman..see pic below by a muslim.

https://www.nairaland.com/2116034/al-taqiyya-before-trust-muslim.know

Watch this video for explanation of use by a muslim


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTXywWqXQd0
Egyptian Cleric Mahmoud Al-Masri Recommends Tricking Jews into Becoming Muslims

PastorKun:
I knew you would come running along soon.

Lol. .. of course

Each of these points are collaborated and affirmed by reading the quran and authentic hadiths. Nothing here is made up and no lie had been told. .The Muslims prophet did a lot of things that would make any sane person cringe. Please for more information on the points and its passages in the quran and hadiths visit
http://www.answeringmuslims.com/2014/04/50-reasons-muhammad-was-not-prophet.html?m=1

muHAMMAD'S SPIRITUAL PROBLEMS
When Muhammad began receiving revelations, his first impression of these revelations was that they were demonic.
Muhammad was so traumatized by his encounter with "Gabriel" that he repeatedly tried to commit suicide by hurling himself off a cliff.
According to Muslim sources, Muhammad once delivered a revelation from the devil (the "Satanic Verses".
Muhammad claimed that he was a victim of a magic spell that gave him delusional thoughts and false beliefs.
MUHAMMAD'S PROBLEMS WITH PAGANISM AND IDOLATRY
Islam promotes idolatry (e.g., bowing down to the Kaaba and kissing the black stone).
Islam promotes pagan rituals (e.g., the pilgrimage to Mecca).
Islam deifies Muhammad by requiring unconditional obedience to him and by requiring Muslims to talk to him during their daily prayers.
MUHAMMAD'S PROBLEMS WITH VIOLENCE
After leaving Mecca, Muhammad supported his religion by robbing people.
Muhammad ordered his followers to torture a man named Kinana to find out where some money was hidden. Muhammad then had Kinana killed, and took his wife for himself.
Muhammad commanded his followers to kill critics of Islam.
Muhammad ordered his followers to kill apostates, even if they had good reasons for leaving Islam.
The Qur'an commands Muslims to violently subjugate Jews and Christians.
MUHAMMAD'S SCIENTIFIC PROBLEMS
The Qur'an claims that stars are missiles that Allah uses to shoot demons.
The Qur'an claims that the sun sets in a pool of murky water.
Muhammad's teachings about personal hygiene would lead to death if Muslims took them seriously.
Muhammad claimed that Gabriel explained to him why children look like one parent or the other. Gabriel's answer is completely false.
MUHAMMAD'S EVIDENTIAL PROBLEMS
When Muhammad was too shy to tell his dinner guests to leave, Allah stepped in with a special revelation that should make everyone wonder whether Muhammad's revelations really have anything to do with God.
The Qur'an declares that Christians find Muhammad mentioned in our scriptures. Yet our scriptures call Muhammad an antichrist.
In the Qur'an, Allah promises to kill Muhammad by severing his aorta if Muhammad invents a false revelation. When Muhammad died, he said he could feel his aorta being severed.
The Qur'an contains a prophecy that wasn't fulfilled.
The Qur'an presents a test for divine inspiration, but fails the test.
The central argument for the inspiration of the Qur'an is the "Argument from Literary Excellence," which is absurd on multiple levels.
The author of the Qur'an doesn't know that Miriam, the sister of Aaron and Moses, is a different person from Mary, the mother of Jesus (because their names are the same in Arabic).
The Qur'an claims that Alexander the Great and Aesop were devout Muslims.
Allah promises to protect the Qur'an from corruption, but the Qur'an has been corrupted (by Muslim standards).
Muslims believe that the Qur'an is Allah's eternal Word. Yet Allah repeatedly changes his eternal mind about his eternal Word via abrogation.
The Qur'an is missing at least two verses in which Allah commands grown women to breastfeed grown men in order to prevent sexual misconduct.
The Qur'an contains numerous false stories that were plagiarized from other sources.
MUHAMMAD'S PROBLEMS WITH WOMEN
Muhammad allowed his followers to hire prostitutes.
The Qur'an allows Muslim men to have up to four wives at a time. But Muhammad received a special revelation giving him (and him alone) the right to break the four-wife limit.
Muhammad had sex with a prepubescent nine-year-old girl named Aisha.

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asadike:
Demons then?

Most likely. ..

It's the spirit of the antichrist

mahdino:
Prophet Mohammad (saw) is the last and final messenger of God as has been prophesiced in the old Testament, in Deuteronomy 18:18 and New Testament gospel of John 16:12-14

John 16: 12 -14 clearly describes the Holy spirit.. the spirit of truth.....please Was Mohammed a spirit .. Dude Mohammed was not even truthful.. Remeber the satanic verses, al taqiyyah and kitman all a product of the quran . All inspired by lies and deceit. . Come on man

Even Reading other similar verses in the NT shows it is the Holy spirit which in fact came on the disciples and has remained with christains ever since..

it's strange how u go to the OT to claim it foretold him when in fact it doesn't
Deuteronomy 18:18
Please read this to clearly understand why

http://www.answering-islam.org/Silas/deut1818.htm