BabaGnoni: ^^^ No problemo my brother... usermane, I turned away and shielded my face from watching the stoning part though Me, that I used to watch hardcore bloody gory and horror movies before with no problems. I must have gone soft
This son of yours will be a wild man, as untamed as a wild donkey! He will raise his fist against everyone, and everyone will be against him. Yes, he will live in open hostility against all his relatives. - Genesis 16:12 NLT"
Ishmael's descendants occupied the region from Havilah to Shur, which is east of Egypt in the direction of Asshur. There they lived in open hostility toward all their relatives. - Genesis 25:18 NLT
It is not just today, yansh don dey for back. The butt as always been at the rear, not just recently
This clearly explains why Muslim arabs behave the way they do. ..bible prophesies are chillingly accurate..
BabaGnoni: My brother from another faith, just dey look, dey laffu, maa wo wọn niran One of our vernacular adage says: "Ọlọrun mọ ẹniti o nsin Oun" loosely translated interprets as "God knows who has formed a relationship with Him and/or worships Him"
There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when you see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Rilwayne001,usermaneand all the prophets, in the Kingdom of God, and yourselves being thrown outside. Luke 13:28
Would have loved Ifeann so much more, if Ifeann didnt shy from answering the above
Ifeann, let's put the record straight, I questioned truthman2012's sincerity and motive for opening the thread The insincerity was so blatant, amplified with a sensational and unnessary OMG Matters were made worse with the sniggering posts that followed
Abuamam got sucked in, started out on a wrong foot with "To my Muslim brothers & sisters" and then out of desperation, lashed out with an uncalled for "breastmilk ice cream" weak jab to counter-attack and score a cheap point
He was advised to next time, deal ONLY with the problem (i.e. the Egyptian Sheikh and his hadith), and not to get sucked into making cheap jibes or underhand jabs
Life is so fleeting... one moment we here today, next moment we gone tomorrow
BabaGnoni i do have Muslim family members, one recently decided not to continue with islam. .. i didn't even have any thing to do with her decision
Again i agree with you and i have commended you for ur objectivity and maturity. .. please when u have the time engage these Muslims, every soul that renounces Islam and accepts Christ and his sacrifice is a major victory..
OREMUSSANCTUS: so pls, can ya explain wad dey did to muhammed. Remember, even d jews crucified Christ, buh wen he was dying he forgave dem. Is dat not how a perfect prophet shld behave? Even till his death, he asked muslims to kill christians and jews. Ma guy, if muhammed, was to come at d age of 54 to ask for ya sister hand in marriage at d age of 6, wad will ya do? As for me I swear, I go cuy him roaster. Waiting for ya reply.
Anas09 is in agreement with u.. i am sure he will kick the man out of his house and hide his sister from the perv..
Rilwayne001: I swear to God almighty nothing is truthful in all the madness you guys are displaying all around. Its definitely the hatred you guys have for islam that is pushing you, imaging how babaGn.oni (who is also a christian) flawed your insincerity on the other thread but do you accept your fo0lishness? No. and thats how it continues to burn in your featherhead. No matter how glaring your lies are been exposed you guys will forever remain stiffmecked.
I have challenge you to preach your religion to me, a task given to christians by paul...but your response was that you are not here for challenge, and I keep wonderinh whether my rooomate is a quack christian unlike you who prefer to talk bad of islam (out of ignorant), he (my roomate) don't do that, he prefer to go out on evangelism of the bible to people, we do talk atimes about religion though not often and we respect eachother so much. Perhaps he is more sensible than you guys. Well, I only do my interreligious argument on NL I don't carry it about offline.
So sire...Do you think my RM is a quack christian to have not been acting the way you are doing here? Why have'nt you been opening thread against the catholic faith since you once claim that they are of the devil (lets not forget they constiute huge % of the world christian population)? can you try and emulate my friend by preaching what your bible has to offer for me instead of your ignoratio elenchi
Ur room mate seems to be a nice guy, that he chooses not to point out the errors and vile teachings in islam doesnt make him a better or worse christain.
A lot of truths are being exposed about islam every day. . Your religous books calls christain cattle and Jews pigs and apes yet the christains And jews have surpassed Muslims in every scholarly and practical human endeavor... i mean without tthe unbelieving kafirs , u muslims will NOT even have something as basic as the light bulb talkless of the phones and laptops u use to harass us online
Catholics , protestants are all assembles of humans worshiping God to the best of their understanding. . They however don't kill each other like the sunni and shia muslims.. any christain that says catholics are of the devil should prove it.. teachings differ in theology but making a claim like devil worship is a big and unfortunate allegation..
Please what do u want to know about christainity. . Create a thread and ask Christains...mathematical did that yesterday..
Here is my reply to BabaGnoni,
I agree that the title should have been less provocative and there is dating issues with the story of the University Don and his fatwa...
But u seem to miss the fundamental objection truthman2012 has with this hadith story. He is trying to prove that there is something wrong with islam and that Mohammed gave a lot of silly decrees or practises that condemn him as a false prophet.
U have also a muslim, abuamam defending giving breastmilk to a youngman so that he is not thrown out on the street by his adoptive parents. Adoption which was decleared abrogated by Mohammed because he lusted after, married and had sex with his own adopted sons wife, his own daughter inlaw..
don't u see your attempts to discredit truthman and elaborate on the hadith gives support to this silly belief system
So u stop adoption in isalm and then tell adoptive parents to give ur adopted child(even if they are grown up young men or bearded 11 year olds) your own bosom milk so that they can stay in your home and not be kicked out by you since u started hating ur adopted child because of the abrogated adoption which was Mohammeds decision in the first place..
No where In the scriptures of the Jews or past prophet of God did all this preverted things happen, No where in the new testament are christains told to do this...
As a christain, if u are one. .u should condemn this and even if u choose to correct the op, it should be done in a less confrontational manner with no attempt to defend Islam. ..
Incase if u are one of those people that think we worship the same God u should take a look at this thread. .
U may want to revise ur statement about him flawing the op's insincerity. ..he corrected truthmans article on his method of title, choice of fatwa giver, and didn't prove the substance of truthman's arguement wrong..
BabaGnoni: Hmm, thank you... I've just finished watching it The below at the beginning (i.e. 1:06 - 1:10) reverberated in my ears throughout watching the video 1:06 if it was not illegal to kill or 1:10 if they would guarantee that there would be no punishment, some of us will be dead by now
Yeah. . Its crazy. . And he is really meant it.. When i called u a quranist, i apparently i mistook u for a muslim, i read one of your posts where u were defending Islam and u mentioned ur disdain for the hadith. ..
BabaGnoni: Level headed, I humbly accept, quranist, whatever that means, I doubt Ah, I am not sure I have the liver to watch this, as it looks gruesome just looking at the snapshot Will watch it later or at some stage, after mustering the will power
usermane: Hmm.... I cannot expect anything less from such individuals who lack a sense of right and wrong. I expose the self-righteousness, deceit and ignorance within them, most times they had no logical response and cowardly resort to insults, banning me and deleting my threads. They basically escaped from me.
It is called ego. They have been brought up with a militant, irrational and supremacist understanding of their religion and therefore objectivity, rationality and freedom of expression have no place in their mindset. That is why they find it wrong for Christians to kill apostates but justify Muslims killing apostates. There is a battle for Islam among between such Muslims and Reform minded Muslims like me. Here is a brilliant documentary that captures it;
I just watched the documentary. Its very educative, I have always known that not all Muslims are like tartar, ayinba, abuamam etc. This is why I never insult Muslims. The thing is that Muslims like u are so like christains in behaviour, u are also a very small voice in Islam. I just discovered a guy called BabaGnoni, he seems to be a level headed quranist. I was pained to see what decent anti hadith Muslims Go thru. It was also incredible to hear that ignorant muslim refer to that nice muslim doctor as an extremist.
Pay attention in the 46th minute mark and hear a morderate muslim complain about an extremist Muslims imam using al Taqiyya, he refered to it as double discourse.
PastorAIO: I've got an idea for Seun. Seun, if indeed you are being threatened by Islamists regarding the things posted on this website, perhaps you could try to document it. Keep a record of any letters and emails sent, or if possible audio and video recordings of meetings with these people when they are likely to threaten you.
Who knows, maybe in a couple of years time it might make a good documentary or expose´. Evidence.
gatiano: xaxaxaxaxax, welcome sister, yes i do and not just any. what about you? a blond jesus or a white spectre with two swords across, that is void..
U want to know what I imagine
Are u ready.
I imagine nothing.. I see nothing However I feel his presence. That's all I need
gatiano: What can i substitute for Freedom, Equality and Justice, Mathematics and Science. You told me to belief, do you know that synonyms of belief is ignorance? I know who ALLAH was and Who HE is, I know the ONE TRUE GOD. I am confident that you don't. Besides, i have come to learn through True Islam that without the mind, there is no reality. When you pray, who do you image? for example, when anybody says fanta bottle, i know it is that transparent 35cl bottle with stripes on 3/4th of its base. if anyone one mentions my grand mother, i know her image well. What do you image when you pray to GOD. be truthful just this one time.
Empiree: And why are you appealing to him....aren't you exactly like that?. Your threads are all like that.....show who you truly are. Stop acting like christ on NL. You are NL biggest bigot at the moment. I am still pursuing you.
Empiree: And why are you appealing to him....aren't you exactly like that?. Your threads are all like that.....show who you truly are. Stop acting like christ on NL. You are NL biggest bigot at the moment. I am still pursuing you.
gatiano: i will renouce it now, if you can provide for me what i can use to substitute Mathematics and Science, Freedom, Equality and Justice, and Submission to ALLAH.
Look for a book called mere christainity, u can get the audiotape from youtube. I am not done reading it, but so far its been nice.
U must also kneel and pray to the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob to guide you. U won't submit to allah but u will submit to the One true God and his son , humanities saviour Lord Jesus.