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TonyeBarcanista:
Great point! you can mail me if you don't mind

TonyeBarcanista:
Firstly. nobody poisoned anybody to dislike any neighborh, experiences during the eastern region and civil war events shaped opinion of our people. FACT!

Secondly, as much as I am an advocate of alliance with other Southern groups, I have/will never advocate massaging the battered ego of any group because we want alliance. In fact, the Ijaw is not desperate alliance.

As a tribe we have our interest (which is not Bia..ra), and we must recognize this interest within the context of any alliance. No group can blackmail the Ijaw nation to gain partnership and no group will succeed. I am 100% aligned with Boro ideology, it is either we restructure this country or we go our way as a single group. This is why after getting Rivers state, we agitated for Bayelsa, Oil rivers and Toru Ibe states.

But how can we achieve Resource control without first achieving political alliance? Bombing will only cause poverty to many and enrichment of a few gang. We have no option but to put our house in order first and take advantage of the northern division to build fences with non Fulani groups and southern groups.

On Jonathan, he was a system man that got bitten by the same system. No excuse can justify things he failed to do. Even the scholarships were given to militants who sold it to the highest bidder

Wadeoye:
Due process my foot...

Did they follow due process while destroying the country and brought us to this point?

What is the due process in a judge keeping N300m cash in his bedroom? Due process requires that such huge money should be in his bank account and/or declared. Someone who has not followed due process as a judge should enjoy due process when the consequences of his actions stare him in the face.

People like those judges should be thrown in jail without trial.

TonyeBarcanista:
What are you saying? Did Tonye advocate for Fulani patronage?

We had President between Feb 2010 and May 2015, one of my demand then was abolishing NDDC, Amnesty and Min of NDA to give way for resource control. But instead, some were comfortable chasing pipeline contracts and other contracts forgettingthat power is transient. Now we are back to square one and people are talking about militancy.

What has the Northeast gained with BH? Aren't they in IDPs? Aren't they at loss? Is that what you wish for Ijaw people? Some of you forget so soon the Gbaramatu situation in 2009. Wake up

What we need is put our house in order, build fence with other Southern groups, Middle belt and marginalized NW/NE Christians. With that we would make the Fulani a minority and then seize power to cause restructuring.

TonyeBarcanista:
What are you saying? Did Tonye advocate for Fulani patronage?

We had President between Feb 2010 and May 2015, one of my demand then was abolishing NDDC, Amnesty and Min of NDA to give way for resource control. But instead, some were comfortable chasing pipeline contracts and other contracts forgettingthat power is transient. Now we are back to square one and people are talking about militancy.

What has the Northeast gained with BH? Aren't they in IDPs? Aren't they at loss? Is that what you wish for Ijaw people? Some of you forget so soon the Gbaramatu situation in 2009. Wake up

What we need is put our house in order, build fence with other Southern groups, Middle belt and marginalized NW/NE Christians. With that we would make the Fulani a minority and then seize power to cause restructuring.

TonyeBarcanista:
What? A leader seek for his people's emancipation not enslavement.

On Militants irrespective of their nomenclature, they are hustlers, we know some of these people. They CAN'T emancipate our people because to them it is personal survival. From NPVF to MEND to Avengers etc. It is about Amnesty, Pipelines Surveillance Contracts, NIMASSA contracts etc.

Secondly, I am champion of Ijaw struggle even when Jonathan was in power. Some of you emergency agitators were silent 5-6years ago, but people like us was never silent.

We are at a point where we must realise the power of strategic and intellectual struggle because no group of criminals can successfully do it.

TonyeBarcanista:
Who is this one again?

As per first Paragraph, Avengers are HUSTLERS that have been condemned by various ijaw groups, monarchs, leaders of thought and elders. Get used to it.

Secondly, You don't even know what he stood for but he stood for everything good and even insist on a better Ijaw nation within the Nigeria federation.

IYC, INC, IPA etc have all pledged loyalty to Nigeria project while making case for restructuring to allow resource control.

Before I go on, who are you self?

TonyeBarcanista:
NDA are hustlers and are looking for Amnesty/negotiations etc. it is all business. It has nothing to do with Jonathan or Ijaws.

Ijaw is fully part of Nigeria project, we don't give a damn about you people bigoted and bitter way of doing things.

As for Jonathan, though I campaigned for him, I still criticise him when I'm convinced he errs. In fact, my Ijaw brothers know that and I don't hide it.

We arnt driven by bitterness.... Kanu need your sympathy bro...

steppin:
Read my post again slowly.

steppin:
Yorubas working with the north, is the only reason why Nigeria is still one. The moment they break that alignment, na bye bye to the country called Nigeria.
And we all know who's gonna lose more if Nigeria divides. You don't throw away your meal ticket cos you're angry.

Connoisseur:
Anyone who believes this is a novice

Connoisseur:
My hopes were rekindled when news broke of the apparent rift in the ruling All Progressives Congress.

Even though I supported the APC in the last elections, it came as a welcome news that at least something was happening to keep the party on its toes given that the PDP, APGA and other parties could not offer any semblance of credible opposition to the party. At least this time, they'd have to watch their backs in the course of running our affairs.

I was happy the rift is between a heavyweight and battle tested veteran in the person of Asiwaju Bola Tinubu. What I didnt expect was the rallying call by elders and leaders of Yoruba origin coming to the defense of an erstwhile 'prodigal' brother.

Fayose's defence of Tinubu came as a huge surprise to me because I don't think I would live to see the day he would say some positive thing about the Jagaban.
Even though I believe their accolades are part of a grand scheme to cause distrust and disintegration of the ruling party, it also points to the progressive mind and political acumen of the Yoruba race. When this is over, they might achieve their intentions which is luring Tinubu out of the APC. Even if they don't, they would have sent a clear message that an insult to one is an insult to all.

This brings me to the subject of this piece, anyone with an imagination could conjure what the scenario would be if BAT were an Igbo son. He would have been made the subject of mockery by his brothers. Ohaneze would have taken a full page advertorial to mock him. Others would be scheming to replace him in the scheme of things. Even though the 'I told you so' happened in this case, it was minimal and everyone is rallying round him in the end.

Politics 101 for us the Igbo.

Afam bu Chinonso, achorom ka anyi muta ihe ndia

FKO81:
Because I know who open the thread

FKO81:
You guys should stop living false life, take your time and read this

http://leadership.ng/blogposts/509791/needless-war-house-oduduwa

Needless War In The House Of Oduduwa

[b]Are Binis of today’s Edo of the Yoruba stock and what is the status of the Ijebu people in the Yoruba cosmogony?

These two-in-one questions posed will continue to dog Yoruba history. Despite the works of great historians like Samuel Johnson, Ade Ajayi, Espie, Ayanleye and the rest, the questions remain open-ended.

The recent hot exchanges between the Awujale of Ijebuland, Oba Sikiru Adetona and the Alake of Egbalnd, Oba Adedotun Gbadebo, were avoidable and expand the hiatus among the Yoruba people and their neighbours.

The ranking of five foremost Yoruba Obas by Alake was the agent provocateur this time. Picking holes in the ranking, the Awujale faulted the 1903 gazette cited by the Alake on the categorisation of Obas. Not being a son of Oduduwa, it would have been better to just steer clear of colonial creations, which were done by the rule of thumb during that period.

But, instead, Kabiyesi reached out to Oba of Lagos, Rilwan Akiolu, a self-confessed Bini man for validation. Oba Akiolu supported the Awujale. Since the two are not of Yoruba ancestry, it remained to be seen how ego would not take the place of logic.

Binis never considered themselves as of Yoruba stock. The house of Oduduwa considers it fallacious. With the Benin Kingdom countering that no Yoruba Oba was higher than the Oba of Benin, the political history of Yoruba got more suffused in mysticism rather than empiricism.

The Ijebus too, claimed to be superior to other Yorubas because, according to them, it was the fifth Awujale (king of Ijebu-Ode) that cured Oduduwa (the progenitors of the Yoruba race) of blindness. For them, if the father of all Yorubas was a beneficiary of their fifth ruler, it then meant that they had existed before the foundation of the Yoruba race or at least, before they got to Nigeria.

The first Awujale was said to have come from a place called Waddai, somewhere in present day Sudan. The people are different from their immediate neighbours in Ijebuland. Chief Obafemi Awolowo, the late political sage and a Remo man, sealed this a long time ago. Historically, people from that axis of Ijebu are from Iremo quarters in Ile-Ife and migrated to where they settled now near the Ijebu people. Hence they are called Ijebu-Remo. Most Ijebu towns towards Ondo and in Lagos States also claim their ancestry to Ile-Ife.

The myths and conundrum of these assertions may take eternity to decipher and made a mince meat of the royal diplomacy of 41-year-old Ooni Ogunwusi couched in oneness of the Yorubarace. His several visitations to those considered rivals to his predecessor, Oba Okunade Sijuwade may be a pipedream with the current verbal warfare.

Ooni, the Arole Oodua had gone to Alaafin of Oyo and Awujale in search of unity. Only last weekend, he took a wife from Benin kingdom, to underscore his quest to end the war of attrition tearing apart the house of Oduduwa as we know it.

Perhaps our royal fathers should be reminded that democracy has demystified claims embedded in orality and whittled down the influence of royal fathers who today exist at the mercy of council chairmen and state governments who decide who and when to enthrone chief/Oba/Emir or depose. These discretions are embedded in law and not the native authority that have no force of enforcement under our present constitutional arrangements.

For most radically minded people, it was a needless argy-baggy for an endangered institution to fan the embers of disunity and expose itself to a predatory system that doesn’t discriminate between a slave and free-born.

Definitely, they have different motives. Some of them are doing it out of patriotism and love of their immediate source of origins; just wanting to project pride in their own roots. Some are doing this out of mischief.

It is clear the professorial chair endowed by Oba Adetona will see democracy as more relevant for scholarship than studies in traditional monarchy.[/b]

ericsmith:
it is nt easy to stay away frm wat yu gav birth to .....especially wen it endin to perish.
obsanjo ddnt birth pdp ...but ended up as d Godfather of pdp...Gej came n says no to Godfatherism,,frm that moment pdp landed in dissarray..if tinubu stand asides ...apc wil end lik pdp of today wu cannt even appoint a caretaker successively,,,abeg wu is there head now.,sheriff abi makarfi..
same way they gang up against him in AD,,he is no god truly, but whr is AD n afeneferes with all d wisdom they claim to av..
i dnnt lik Godfatherism mysef ,,,but its seem to b d only thing that bond party members together,,provides articule of association ..Godfatherism is d law ova all politicians,,our politicians dnnt fear laws/constitution of d land.. i feel they want to kill d only tin that regulate there kind of world.. imagine a society witout laws,,pdp culd b an example