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Why not send them to the Congo where millions have died? People here are saying send them to Syria. That is not our war in Syria. We should care about Africa first before anything. Slave mentality.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE84hhosd54

I wonder what cap28 would think about htis.

It is funny how we front page when America is going to bomb Syria but nt when Congo is getting invaded by proxy or the CAR. SMH

Why can't Nairaland front page this? This is a very important topic and can make the difference between our life and death of African people around the world.

Flytefalls: Hahaha! How do you people express hilarity on NL again?? Something along the lines of; I laugh in binary code!

Relief is an intervention as much as war. I suppose I've used the term 'intervention' broadly; I meant any wide-scale international interjection. I support any assistance to the people of Syria; >2million affected people cry for it. But I've concluded that it's likely any intervention that crosses political lines will lead to war. I am not deluded by America's efforts as you so fragrantly detailed.

Naive people like you are the reason why Libya was bombed. America started the Syrian civil war by funding it now they want to save it? If they didn't fund it there would be no war.

AFRICOM


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZcvS2ysJrw

They will probably go for Iran after Syria though they don't need to attack Africa because we will kill each other for them and give them our resources. They probably make more money from proxy wars selling us all these weapons so we can massacre each other for cheaper resources. We need to stop being slaves and wake up to imperialism.

Emzybrown: I thought i saw a nairalander manufacturing drones, we may have thousands of his kind with no media attention, we are prepared and there is no cause for alarm.

Where is the proof of these drones. Can I see it?

is there a website for this?

Why don't they have these types of protests for wars in Africa?

Beaf: Up 9ja! We can do it! Such news makes me so proud.
I hope the thing looks like a growling beast.

Anyways, lets use it to immediately invade Cameroon. Na me go drive am.

Why Cameroon?

Capnd143: First of all nigerian produces only RPG ,APC's,guns,bulletprove/ballistic vase ,night vision googles, scout cars, mini drones, clusters bombs, rockets, etc and a trainer fight aircraft is currently under production at the airforce institute of technology , the only problem is funding, there are lots and lots of made in nigeria military hardwares bt it is nt mass produced bt rather imported, the first thing would be rapid mass production . . .and meanwhile i can give u prove of existence of everything i said if you doubt me!

Pleas show me proof. I am really interested in seeing this.

lygn19: First strategy is to put d ppl who are shouting 1 Nigeria bcoz of oil,,,at d forefront,,,since dae re boasting of fighting 1 tribe with all manner of imported weapons,,,let's see if really dae can fight against der masters,at least dz tym no1 wud supply dem weapon, If Nd WW3 hits Nigeria,,,I pity u folks,coz I believe dats wud be d chance d igbos have been looking for to beat d pulp out of u ppl,,,since der won't be any UK,or Russia or egypt sending in Arms...

It is funny how we are discussing getting invaded by foreigners and you are talkking about Igbos fighting other Nigerians. The REAL enemy is not other black people. It is foreigners who will permanently settle in Nigeria and Africa. We should be fighting them.

Where are the tanks, aircraft's, ships, missiles, bombs, planes, guns, body armor, helmets, bulletproof vests made by us? Right now foreign countries make most of our equipment. How would we defend ourselves if they don't supply us with the products we need? Would we be able to fight off invaders?

Horus: If using of chemical is banned by the International Body why do Americans used it in Vietnam?. Who have the largest chemical-weapons stockpile on the planet?. The U.S. supported Saddam Hussein’s Iraq in its war against Iran throughout the 1980s, they supplied him with intelligence about what Iranian targets to hit with the chemical weapons. The U.S. then proceeded to block Iranian attempts to bring a case against Iraq to the United Nations. CONCLUSION: The pot calling the kettle black

QFT!!

Hoodrat: For those saying this lady is beautiful black woman yall need to give it a rest. How beutiful can one be when she never for one proud of her natural hair instead she seek to attach inferior weavon,wigs all the days of her live even on her wedding day look at the hairs on her head and tell it was hers. This is a typical self hating black woman. She is a white power chick and you dont expect her to marry african/black man just like the rest of the popular,rich and powerful black women that all choses white spouse over black male due to the power that be. She was educated to feel inferior and as a puppet her duty is to serve the imperialist elites and strengthen the white power to oppress and belittle her own race. No offence but truth be told.

Keep spreading the truth!!

thoth: actually even though the law states the condition on which abortion is allowed, what many of you fail to understand is that in the court of law it has several interpretaions. A woman can simply decide to abort a baby simply because she FEELS that it was not what she wants and therefore a concern to her health, there are many ways the whole line can be twisted.

Today i was informed that the law was drafted by USAID and they sorted the House of Assembly after the first attempt was rejected.

These USAID and others knows quite well what they are doing, it is we africans and our inferiority complex result in our quest to feel like to qhite man that is confused, very soon divorce laws will be introdued and i know people will like to sound modern and support it while our society disintegrates.

A woman who wants to spite you can abort your baby on basis of health reasons if she states that she does not feel healthy enough to proceed with the pregnancy.

May God help Africa.

We wait for god too much. We need to do things for outrselves.

thoth: Sudanese oil export mounts to billions of dollars per year, sudanese people don't see a farding of that revenue, he kills and silences anyone that speaks against him, you will never hear of any kind of dissent in sudan because his supporter of APC guys makes sure it is taken care of at the early stage, the man is a real monster with no human conscience.

There are lots of stories i have heard from many chinese expats that worked in Sudan but i know people will start asking for this and that proof so i rather keep it to myself.
I know the west has abused the term Human Rights in their quest for world hegemony but i reality Sudan is just a killing zone, humans worth nothing there, it is a nation that is kept only for the enrichment of Bashir and his friends.

Bashir himself has undermined african interests on the request of his Arab brothers, he sees himself and his country more as an Arab than as an African, on this i hold no grudge against him, i spent years in morroco so i know how the North Africans think of themselves.

Sudanese themselves don't really see life as you do, the chinese are just reaping the country dry as quickly as they can, it is pure colonialism, they can treat the sudanese like donkeys and Bashir and his guy dare not hear you say anything against the chinese.

If you look at Sudan in the Reality of what Bashir has turned it into then you will rejoice that at least in Nigeria some trickle of the lootings come down to us and at least we can express our grudge.

I have never been the sort to take this kind of stand nor had i been a Humans rights champion since i consider that a sort of scam but after watching some videos in the phones of many of my chinese friends i really felt sorry for Sudanese and for once in my life i felt a little happy that southern SUdan became their own nation albeit a western puppet nation.

DO you know Dr Chinweizu Ibekwe? He talked about bashir too

http://www.nathanielturner.com/letterfromchinweizu.htm

thoth: Afewerki guy i know little about, Bashir on the other hand is a chinese puppet and one of the worst sort of humans to ever walked the earth. If you are unfortunate enough to be around chinese expats that worked in Sudan tell their tales of Sudan you will feel ashamed to be african.

What did he do? Can you give me details?

thoth: when ever someone says the truth about america the buffons around will scream Anti-america!! That ploy has been used and abused so much that sometimes i pity people in the third world so much for thier ignorance while they try to sound civilized.
After Americans must have bombed Syria back to 1600s, install their looting puppets, internalize sectarian differences to ensure that nation stays in chaos. Students of history who refere to this period and americans as the destructive constant to the whole equation will recieve the same answer our unenlightened brothers always give us, STOP BLAMING OTHERS FOR YOUR PROBLEM! I feel really sorry for modern Africa and Nigeria because people who are aware of the way things work already know that the role al -qaeda is playing for the US in Syria is the same role that Boko Haram is planned to play for US in nigeria and west africa.

Very true It is all about the media. We need to control the media so we can write our own stories . CNN BBC and FOX are BS and tell lies. We need to have our own that promotes our agenda.

Ellen Johnsoni is a puppet and slave to America and Fitrstone. Liberia is a rubber plantation. THey need to uil tires and ohther rubber products in order too create more wealth which will spread ot scholsin rder to invcrease their education leve..

thoth: African Union has been hijacked long ago, with the likes of Outtara, Godluck jonathan and other puppet presidents that make up 985 of Africa one should not be suprised.
After Ghadaffi died i think it is only Mugabe that is left.

Afewerki and Bashir as well.

Rossikk: It may be 'inferiority complex' to 'rejoice' over whites speaking Yoruba etc, but it is understandable. The African has been marginalised on the world stage for at least the past 1,000 years. Since the fall of Egypt, Nubia, Mali, Ghana, Benin, Oyo, Igbo States, Hausa States etc, Africans have played second fiddle in global affairs. Even today in the western media a negatively skewed image of the continent is the norm, regardless of notable progress being made on the continent.

So, against this background of global prejudice, misinfo, and sheer racism, the African cannot be blamed for feeling gladdened when a member or two of those races shows appreciation for the African's culture, traditions and heritage.

Perhaps in time, as the world's people get better informed of the rich and varied tapestry that is the African story, such 'rare' instances of foreign acknowledgement will draw less 'excitement'. But for now, it's understandable.

It is our slave mentality. We need the white man's stamp of approval. If we can make the white man happy then we have made it. When we win the Nobel Peace Prize or other European awards then we are happy. It is through hundreds of years of conditioning. You ca bomb Japan and they wake up. but if you colonize a mind then they will be enslaved as well as their offspring.

thoth: Idi Amin and Mugabe were one of those true African leaders that knew what is to be done and did it. Even Indians in South Africa look down on blacks because of their skin. I have been to Trinidad and Tobago and it is the same story.

In trini what do the Indians say?

thoth: I don't deny that, in fact there are lots of evidence to prove what you said, what i did not agree with was that they are fleeing poverty in their own country, can you imagine such thought ?
if they are fleeing poverty why can't we be the ones building those stuffs for them, why would they be building stuffs for us, making deals that worth billions of dollars why the same Christianized Nigerians don't have such juicy deals ? that was my disagreement with the poster.

They simply have the technology and we do not. America transferred a lot of their technology to China so that is how China is where it is right now. America doesn't transfer technology to Africa they give us foreign aid which is economic imperialism. They give us unfair WTO policies, World Bank/IMF loans. There is an economic relationship that is different for both of us. The west doesn't see us equally. They portray u badly and only look down on us while with China they see them differently so they invest in them.

Also China doesn't have neocolonialism like Africa has. America tried to control China but it didn't work. I agree with what you are saying but I am just telling you the reasons. Yo probably already know what I am saying though because you are afrocentric and familiar with neocolonialism.

thoth: Sorry, there were no wars, miseries,brutality whatsoever in per-colonial times, i have studied African history quite well and i promote it myself, so maybe you should direct us to where you read about such Barbary in per-colonial Africa. Each Ethnic groups has rules and laws that govern their engagement with other ethnic groups, one study shows that the inter-ethnic conflict was amplified and violence intensified with the European Christian contacts in Africa, The Christian Europeans were giving guns and weapons to river line chiefs and inciting them to slave campaigns against the inland nations and naturally they aided and overthrew many chiefs who obstructed the crooks among their community from going the western way.

The only time we ever had such horrible events was with the Islamic Jihad of Usman dan Fodio and the equally barbaric but more horrible invasion by the Europeans with the Christianity and mass exploitation.

Sorry i am living in china at the moment. I have stayed in china during its formative years and as pure communist country and my job at that time gives me more insight to the national policies and reasons why such policies are formed.

You Fail to understand is that the Chinese guys you see around you were there because their country is rich and they are there on a sort of expedition, which is simply finding markets for their goods and services. they live better than you in your own country and they have meaningful and respectable things to do unlike your own Christianized people who go their country to sell drugs and steal from respectable citizens. china has come a long way and they are bringing millions out of poverty each year, read their urbanization process and the statistics that follows it every 2 years, you will marvel at the number of Chinese that has a better and improved living conditions every year, the amount of Chinese that are living comfortably is three times the whole population of Nigeria while you and your Christianized leaders could not even say that of 40% of your population.

Again, we are more spiritually developed in our pristine African experience than the in our modern christian/Islamic confused state. nobody advocates for the eradication of religion rather what i am calling for is an African solution to African problems, my first post clearly explained it and the reason behind the idea.

Chinese are in Africa giving bad deals and staling resources to. Everyone has their bad apples. Chinese build bad infrastructure People say they rather have no infrastructure than bad ones.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/15/ghana-deports-chinese-goldminers

pleep: That is the heart of the problem

They traded gold for salt, even though salt was plentiful in their region. Make that make sense? The greatest salt mines in Africa were litterally a few miles outside the borders of the empire, but Mali still felt the need to pay arabs/berbers to bring it to them. It wasn't until Songai that black africans had the foresight to take these mines for themselves.

It was the arab/berbers who made the bulk of money off this trade. There is no way of knowing for sure, but the malians were probably selling their gold at less than 1/10th its value. (1/1000th) its value in modern times, and had no participation in the "value addition" aspect of the trade. Which is the most lucrative part.

What im trying to make you guys understand is that Mansa musa and the Mali empire fell into the same trap that has tripped up black people for all our history.. we trade our resources for peanuts

We trade raw crude for pennies on the dollar while the oil companies sell, refine and sell it back to us for $4/ gallon

We sold huge tracts of the congo for pieces of glass, land with cobalt contan, and casserite that are needed in every electronic device.

we sold our slaves for bottles of booze, we traded diamonds for red cloth etc etc.
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And mansa musa is no exceptet

Se tell mé where you get your african economic history books from. Which books do u read?

Ghana annd nigeria

panafrican: Yeah, this is why your society is destroyed and full of homosexuals, transsexuals, sexual predators, child molesters and wicked apartheid- brained folks who even do not realize that they are nothing but degenerated. The poorest Nigerian has more common sense, more humanity in him/her than
any of your retarded folks who think they are better than Africans.

If you are a pan africanist then why do you not like african americans?

somalia11: Negroid use somali/ethiopians to uplift themselves. Because without somalis/ethiopians blacks only had a history of slavery and were walking around nude before europeans came. This is why the blacks here and online who are afrocentrics try so hard to use somalis and ethiopians and place them on a peddle stool like the gods we are.

You are ignorant. West Africa had Mali, SOnghai, Nri, Yoruba, Benin, Hausa, Aashanti, Ghana, Wolof and Bornu Kanum. We had great civilizations with mathematics and sciences. It wasn't all slavery. Read some afrocentric books.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T03G7wuzFEk

cap28: Investing in african countries indeed!!

who benefits from europeans and american investment in africa - the african people or the puppet elite govts?

Majority of african dictators are in power because they are put there by europe and america - who do you think finances all the military coups and civil wars, where do these dictators get their arms from, where do they stash away their stolen loot?

You know nothing about this so called international aid that you claim the west gives to african countries but let me enlighten you - it is a racket - for every dollar or pound that they spend in africa these aid agencies get tenfold back because many of them are operating as intelligence agencies feeding information back to their respective countries which enables these countries to find more ways of infiltrating and controlling these countries, furthermore those aid agencies provide jobs for middle class white people (never blacks) who are paid very good salaries, accommoddated in choice areas of their host nation and enjoy life styles they could only dream about back home in their countries of origin. You should read articles written by an american freelance journalist by the name of Keith Harmon Snow who completely exposes these so called agencies as imperialist agents. You are falling for the same lies that our african ancestors fell for - remember how the european imperialists used missionaries to confuse many africans - what was the end result ? We lost our land, labour force and resources and gained their religions - where has it got us?


You keep talking about how africa failed to do this and that - but you never condemn europe and america who spent billions of dollars in military aid to keep the aparthied system going, the US supplied the aparthied regime with surveillance equipment which enabled them track and murder thousands of black south africans, israel worked with the aparthied regime to develop nuclear and biological warfare,britain and the US refused to stop doing business with the aparthied regime until the country was on the brink of a civil war.

Did you know that the US and britain labelled Mandela a terrorist and the US only took him off their terrorist list in 2009 ?

Can you send me the link with mandela's wife? I was trying to find it but couldn't

eGuerrilla: @OP, here is a post I directed to you on a different thread yesterday:

@igbo2011,

Too often I come across definitions of Afrocentricity which are inspired and characterised only by its adherent's opposition to the Other - cultural imperialism, xenophobia, Western ethnocentrism, and so on. Now aside from betraying its true essence, such views are counter-intuitive and also, invariably, at odds with the revolutionary ideal it represents.

To be sure I understand what you mean when you describe yourself as an Afrocentric, could you be so kind as to elaborate a bit more.

Every single thing I do in my life is for the benefit of the Pan Aferican ommnity. The reason I get up is to make ifference. I go to school to make a diferene. Every ay I think of ways to make a difference. I made a site www.africanedp.com to promote our economies. My facebok page is gaining popularity www.facebook.com/africanedp

I hink of life through an aforcentric point of view. I study history from an afrocentric perspective. I am a pan African nationalist. I only date black women. I spend my money in my comunity. I wear African lothes all the time I am still learning more African langauges. i want to master Igbo YOruba nad KiSwahili in the next couple of years. Iknow a lot about African cuntries, politics and economics. I know about the diaspora s well. am a social engineer to ome xtent I focus on economics but I also study other social sciencs on my pare time because they are intertwined.

i believe in Afrocentric schools. I believe that more peope should b afrocentric and self loving instea of self hating like mot Errocentric Africans are.

eGuerrilla: @igbo2011,

Too often I come across definitions of Afrocentricity which are inspired and characterised only by its adherent's opposition to the Other - cultural imperialism, xenophobia, Western ethnocentrism, and so on. Now aside from betraying its true essence, such views are counter-intuitive and also, invariably, at odds with the revolutionary ideal it represents.

To be sure I understand what you mean when you describe yourself as an Afrocentric, could you be so kind as to elaborate a bit more.

Every single thing I do in my life is for the benefit of the Pan Aferican ommnity. The reason I get up is to make ifference. I go to school to make a diferene. Every ay I think of ways to make a difference. I made a site www.africanedp.com to promote our economies. My facebok page is gaining popularity www.facebook.com/africanedp

I hink of life through an aforcentric point of view. I study history from an afrocentric perspective. I am a pan African nationalist. I only date black women. I spend my money in my comunity. I wear African lothes all the time I am still learning more African langauges. i want to master Igbo YOruba nad KiSwahili in the next couple of years. Iknow a lot about African cuntries, politics and economics. I know about the diaspora s well. am a social engineer to ome xtent I focus on economics but I also study other social sciencs on my pare time because they are intertwined.

i believe in Afrocentric schools. I believe that more peope should b afrocentric and self loving instea of self hating like mot Errocentric Africans are.