morpheus24: @ Igbo2011 Keep your head buried in those history books and continue to regurgitate historical events. That's Cap28's camp. You guys need to go teach World history classes 101 and stop wasting peoples time reminiscing about pinochets, sandanistas, juntas, che guevara, The bay of pigs, cuban revolutions, Banana plantations in central America and CIA operations in nicaragua.
Human beings tend to explain their existence through misery and suffering or conjure up a "devil" or "boogeyman" to expalin away their failures
Morpheus, I bet that if a white man were to beat the hell out of you, you will give him an excuse. You love your master don't you You are a good house negro like Malcolm X said.
@Morpheus24 and @paniki and @justwise You are all IDIOTS!! Do you know your history of colonization? During colonization the Europeans wanted us for cheap labor, to export the raw materials to their country for their industrial revolution. They also had colonialists who served the interests of the west. The same thing is happening right NOW. Look at all the economies of Africa, look at how they work. Most African countries export a raw material (natural resource or agriculutre) and the import finished goods. This is a BAD economic system. The rulers who don't serve African interests either die or get overthrown. This is why Africa is poor and corrupt. All the leaders are puppets besides Mugabe. This is called neocolonialism. This is the NUMBER 1 ENEMY!!
During colonialism, the Europeans had bad trade deas with African countries. This is happening right now. The Europeans use the IMF, World Bank and WTO to benefit theirselves. This is why Ethiopia cannot subsidize their own farmers but France and US can. If America didn't subsidize their farmers then 54% of them would lose money so they would go broke. This would cause a rise of food prices. Since food is the most important for survival, there will be les consumption and less money. This is why America has a very high trade barrier. They are protectionist but they want other countries to lower their barriers. WTF is this? America was always protectionist that is how they got rich. Read the book Bad Samaritans by Ha Joon Chjang this willm ake you understand how countries get rich. Vast majority of them were highly protectionist and didn't import many things unless it would help with their production. They are pretty much hippocrates.
America would never cut education, healthcare, food or housing subsidies because there would be RIOTS like CRAZY!!. Imagine 30 million people rioting it would be CRAZY. They would never do this. That is called austerity measueres, Nigeria did it with SAP in 1986 and it destroyed Nigeria. Argentina did it in 2001. Greece just had theirs. Do you see how this works? Know your history because it tends to repeat itself. Europe wants to recolonize Africa because they are BROKE. When they needed to build America they went to Africa, resource for the industrial revolution, they came to Africa, and now neocolonialism.
Cap28 went to UK so he can get money to provide for his family. SInce the Brits stole eveerything from Nigeria and all the puppet leaders put their money in England, he might as well go there to get the money back. Also, this doesn't just hapen in Africa, it is around the world. Look up Suharto of Indonesia and Pinochet of Chile. We must know our enemy and what they want us to do. SOuth American leaders stood up to imperialism, and there were Revolutions in Egypt and Tunisia because of their puppets. The west has nowhere to go but SS Africa now. They need us more than we need them. We have all the natural resources and human resources. We don't need anybody.
@platetton We are not blaming them for everthing but if they didn't have the SAP of the 1980's then Nigeria wouldn't be in the situation we are in now. If America didn't kill Murtala or overthrow Buhari then we would have better governance now. ZTell them to get OUT OF our affairs. We don't need them at all. Chin, Brazil and India said NO to the IMF and they are emerging markets.
guys - thanks for the nomination - im overcome with emotion
my own nomination is igbo 2011 though.
thanks brother, much appreciated.
Beaf: He isn't a conspiracy theorist. He is smart, you need to stop watching CNN (4th branch of the government) and find alternative media. MORPHEUS24 is the one.
We do not need any conspiracy theory addled types or those that might inhale psychedelic stuff before logging on.
On December 11, the West African country of Ivory Coast held its first legislative elections in 11 years, with all 225 seats in the National Assembly at stake.
The balloting follows disputed presidential elections which, earlier this year, resulted in the installation by imperialist powers of Alassane Outtara as president. (See “Former IMF economist installed as Ivory Coast president”)
The Constitutional Council of the former French colony did not declare Outtara the winner until May 6—nearly a month after previous president Laurent Gbagbo was captured on April 11 by French special forces acting under orders from French President Nicolas Sarkozy and with the political support of the US. The raid was carried out with tanks, armored personnel carriers, and attack helicopters that bombed Gbagbo’s compound.
This aggression was the last in a long line of interventions by France in its former colony, to which it dispatched troops in 2002. During the months between the November 2010 elections and the installation of Outtara in May, French and UN troops seized the Felix Houphouet-Boigny airport and stood by while Outtara’s forces massacred Gbagbo supporters in the western town of Duékoué.
Gbagbo is now being brought before the International Criminal Court in The Hague, for crimes allegedly committed by his government after the 2010 presidential elections. While Outtara has promised punishment of guilty parties “in every camp,” none of his own partisans have been arrested.
Gbagbo is the first former head of state to be tried by the ICC, but belongs to a long line of former stooges of the imperialist powers who are deposed on “humanitarian” grounds after outliving their usefulness. America and France have now turned to Outtara and the legislative elections to safeguard their interests.
Only 36.5 percent of the country’s 5.7 million registered voters turned out in to vote in the December 11 elections, which were little more than window dressing for the rule of French—and behind it, US—imperialism. Outtara’s Rally of Republicans (RDR) took an absolute majority with 127 seats, while the Ivory Coast Democratic Party (PDCI) of former president Henri Konan Bedie received 77.
Gbagbo’s Ivorian Popular Front (FPI) boycotted the elections.
The Ivorian legislature has just one house, to which deputies are supposed to be elected every five years. However, no legislative elections had been held since 2000, under conditions of civil war and rebellion in the north of the country.
The Ivorian Constitution, in effect since August 2000, gives the Assembly a list of powers common in bourgeois democracies—the authority to establish rules for issuing money, laws governing national and local elections, policies on teaching and scientific research, laws governing union and property rights, and organization of national defense.
However, it also gives the country’s president authority to temporarily enact by “ordinance” laws that he cannot get passed in the Assembly. He can impose a national budget through this means if the Assembly does not pass one within 70 days of its introduction.
Having won a majority in the Assembly, Outtara will be able to keep up a democratic facade without having to resort to such measures. A former deputy managing director of the International Monetary Fund, he is well known and closely tied to global finance capital.
The French daily Liberation reported that the RDR’s victory is likely to increase tensions between it and the older Democratic Party of Ivory Coast (PDCI). The RDR originally split from the PDCI in November 1994, but made a pact with it last year that the PDCI would get the prime ministership in the event of an RDR win. Instead, Outtara has retained Guillaume Soro, a former rebel in the north of the country, as his PM.
Liberation quoted a Burkinabe observer who described Outtara and Soro as “accomplices,” who work together so that “Outtara assures the resumption of economic activity, and Soro takes care of reforming the army and security.”
Under Gbagbo, who had close ties to the French Socialist Party and the social-democratic Socialist International, the interests of global finance capital were well represented in the country. A May 2007 US diplomatic cable released by WikiLeaks noted that Ivory Coast had lowered its corporate tax rate from 35 percent to 27 percent the previous year. The cable enthused that “the government does not use tax, labor, environment, or health and safety laws to impede or distort investment” and that it “actively encourages foreign investment through mergers, acquisitions, joint ventures, takeovers, or startups.”
Diplomatic cables from the US embassies in Paris and Abidjan document close collaboration between French and US diplomats on manipulation of Ivorian politics. They also document secret meetings between Outtara and French officials at the Elysee palace in 2009 and 2010.
In a February 2010 cable, a French official tells the “Africa-watcher” from the US embassy in Paris that the government of France “must visibly recede into the background.” The plan was not to reduce France’s role but to hide it, out of fear that there would otherwise be violence against the 14,000 French citizens in Ivory Coast.
French Foreign Minister Francois Fillon has since given press conferences in which he rejects the term “recolonization” but talks about “consolidating economic relations” and promises celebrations of Bastille Day in Ivory Coast.
Yet another cable describes the announcement of Outtara’s candidacy in 2007: “Ouattara noted that there are no problems between Cote d’Ivoire and France and invited French citizens who ‘wrongfully’ and ‘disgracefully’ had to depart Cote d’Ivoire to return if they wanted to.” He announced his candidacy in Paris rather than Ivory Coast, a choice the US embassy found “interesting.”
[quote author=Afro_Blue link=topic=836515.msg9878285#msg9878285 date=1325490207]The Lekki Toll demonstrations were encouraging.[/quote]True, but there is a big difference between protests and revolution.
justwise: I was in Zimbabwe when Zimbabwe was good and was there when Zimbabwe went down dramatically, so i witnessed it, felt the hardship as a student then, i'm still in touch with all my friends and course-mates including those who managed to escape to South Africa and the UK.
You know nothing about Zimbabwean prob, you keep googling up garbage online to paste here. Arguing with you is waste of time and energy because you don't know jack.
Which Zimbabweans left? WHat class were they in? How many people live in Zimbabwe? How many people are a fan of him in Zimbabwe? Answer those questions.
@Rosikk You know what you are talking about. Great posts. So many Africans are blinded and don't see the truth. i hope u spread this to your friends and family as well.
omokay01: Its 165 naira in a Mobil Filling station in Ado oooooo Na only God go help us for this country!
muhsin: Same price here in Kano metro. May God save us; may HE break the neck of PDP and its oligarchs, amin. By His grace, GEJ will lack peace of mind till the end of his tenure as president. Stupidest president Nigeria ever had.
What has God ever done for Africa in the past 50 years? Nigerians keep on praying but when did that solve your problems? Stop praying and fight your fight.
cap28: the role they have designated for africa is - supplier of cheap raw materials and cheap labour and consumer, any attempt to industrialise and become self sufficient is smashed and crushed ruthlessly - WAKE UP.
I coudln't have said it any better man. Happy new year to you too. I hope Nigeria doesn't go to civil war and stops killing each other over ethnic tribe.
You are very right, the west doesn't want Africa to add value to resources. They want less compettition for their industries. If Innoson and Zinox get too big then foreign car and computer companies make less money. Corporate America has the American government behind them to do crazy imperialism. This is just neocolonialism. They have been making money of Africa for 500 years. First stealing our people, the colonialism stealing resources and binding ethnic groups together. Now neocolonialism. They will keep coming back to us unless we fight back.
Anybody who knows economics would know that the IMf is never in the mood to help countries get better. They want to keep them enslaved. SAP doesn't work for everyone. It is not a one size fit all policy. It works for some and not ALL.
How much money does the west owe to China and other people? Like TRILLIONS. Before they talk about our economy, they better talk about theirs.
olas2u: Resource rich countries are meant to be one the richest in the world like Australia ,but not Africa
What resources does Australia have? Also, they are allies with the west.
paniki: Cap is going to like this thread. It will be a meeting place for proponents of victimhood
He is not doing victim hood, he is observing what is happening. THey have been doing this for 500 years and don't plan to stop until somebody stops them. He is a very smart and open minded man. He isn't close minded like most Nigerians. They think the white people are trying to make their lives better. WHat have they done in 500 years?
panafrican: Civil war, Boko Haram, genocide, division, confusing Democracy, natural resource plundering, crippling World Bank and International Monetary Fund policies, puppet presidents, you name it!
^^This is what they have done. This is totally right. You forgot to mention assassination of great leaders.
Onlytruth: My friend permit me to tell you pointblank that YOU ARE NOT IGBO. hehe
We have seen your type here before. Every Igbo adult knows our history in Nigeria.
Why are some of you so shameless? You come here to accuse innocent foreign powers of crimes you commit on fellow Africans.
How are you going to tell me that I am not Igbo? You don't even know me. I don't commit crimes on fellow Africans, I am a pan-afrianist. I support other African countries by doing tourism there and buying their products. I support intra African trade. Africa has all the resources but we export raw materials and import finished goods. This cycle must stop. We must add value to our raw materials.
Nadanbata: @ Igbo2011
Dont blame them o. Its hard to see, but when you do it clicks. These people dont even care for their own citizens oo no country of allegiance nothing 50 million Americans are on "FOOD STAMPS".
If it wasn't for America enslaving all these countries around the world economically then they wouldn't be able to afford food stamps for their citizens. But America is an elitist country. I study sociology on my spare time and the system keeps poor people poor so they can work for the rich. That is why poor areas have the worst schools in America. They don't want too many people getting university degrees, this is why school fees are going up.
Onlytruth: I'm not even talking about Biafra; I'm talking about NIGERIA in January 1966. Like I keep telling you conspiracy theorists, Nigerian history is REAL and can almost be palpated. There are facts everywhere in Nigeria about how Northern Nigerians killed other Nigerians (Igbos mainly) over things they know nothing about. One can count about 30 -50 of such riots in Northern Nigeria. In all of them, Igbos die, and Northerner never apprehend and punish the perpetrators. Heck they don't even apologize. And then some people come here telling me about America and Israel. Nna make una go pick book read, about NIGERIA.
I do read books and I study a lot about Nigeria. I am not saying that America and Israel do EVERYTHING. But a lot of problems going on in Africa are due to them. Look up how Charles Taylor escaped a maximum security prison in Massachusetts and became the President of Liberia. Of course America helped him. @Jenifa_ I guess us igbos love money too much :/
Onlytruth: Oh, my friend you fail me! So, you mean you don't even know some of the most important Nigerian history, and you are here parroting some conspiracy theory? mehn!
Of course I know the basics of Biafra and leading up to it. But I don't know the in-depth behind the scenes things about it. Like I don't know if the west funded coups of Biafra or what not to start a fight. I know that America helped fight the Igbos but I don't know their role before the Biafran war.
Onlytruth: Please can you conspiracy theorists tell me how these are responsible for Gideon Akaluka's beheading and the massacre that follow; how a cartoon in Denmark led to mass murder in Nigeria; and how innocent youth corpers died because Buhari lost an election?
In the videos you shared, it showed that people inside those countries stood up to the power brokers and kicked them out. Why haven't Nigerians been able to do the same? Why did Nzeogwu's revolution fail and why did tens of thousands of innocent Igbos get massacred for it? More importantly, why are there no remorse by the perpetrators of that genocide even today?
When you answer these questions and link them to America and Israel I will start to listen.
I don't know much about Akaluka and Nzeogwu's revolution. But the mass murder of Nigerians was probably due to ignorance not the west and Israel. But Niigeria will do the same very soon. But GEJ is a friend of the west and America will support him because he does whatever he wants. (They do this all over the world as I showed you) Millions of Nigerians will have to rise up in order for real change to happen. This is happening right now in Egypt, let's see how everything works out.
cap28: Pakistan has nukes and they are an ally of China.
I agree with you - it is too late -Obama recently met with Israeli Defence minister to discuss their planned attack on Iran:
If America attacks Iran then Iran will attack Israel an China will attack west coast of LA. Then Russia will attack west Europe. World war 3 will be CRAZY!! You better GET OUT of London man. They probably won't attack Africa with nukes. Boko Haram will be in Nigeria so you better go to Ghana.
You have to laugh at the level of ignorance coming from some posters on here who continue to defend this monstrosity known as the zionist state of israel.
They own the international banking cartels and the western corporate media and they control the US and british govts.
They are now pushing the world towards a third world war because of their infinite craving for power and world domination.
my question is - can they be stopped or is it too late?
Only China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran can stop them now. I don't know who else has nuclear bombs. Brasil might have them (not sure). The west doesn't want to be second to anybody. If there is a 3rd world war then a lot of the world will be nuked. I think it is too late. The people who run the world are too greedy.
Western standard of living is going to go down very soon They need this in order to survive in this global economy. But if everyone lived like Americans then we would need 7 planets just like Earth for the resources.
Buhari wouldn't be fighting Boko Haram, MEND would have rose up and caused problems.Boko Haram isn't about religion, That is just a front to cause a civil war.
Onlytruth: In the world of conspiracy theory, anything is possible, that is why I am more interested in HISTORY. What ACTUALLY HAPPENED. From history, I know, that in the era of "modern" African state, African Muslims have killed more Africans than America, and Israel combined. An uneasy stalemate is holding in Dafur as we speak, where Arab Africans have attempted to ethnically cleanse black Africans in an o.r.gy of violence.
Northern Nigerian muslims have killed more Nigerians than any foreign country could ever attempt without provoking a military response from Nigeria.
So, I feel very insulted when Africans (black) come here to parrot conspiracy theories they hardly understand.
Why not simply tell your African Muslims to repent and toss the mass murdering Koran into the abyss in the interest of Africa's peace and unity. No, they won't! They would prefer the boogie man's story instead. SMDH!
These are NOT conspiracy theories. Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gep4kgTflVs&feature=related John Pilger,Naomi Klein, John Perkins, Lizze Phelan, and Keith Harmon Snow. Look them up, of course CNN will say that America is doing good. But this isn't just an African thing, It happens in many 3rd world countries around the world. South Americans are standing up with leaders like Chavez, Morales, and Correa. Middle East people are revolting as we speak. But now Africans are starting to wake up. In the Congo people are dying for great leaders. But America supports these terrible leaders and gives them weapons for cheap raw materials. They need slaves to extract the material for their captalist economy. That is why they go to war in Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya. They might go to Venezuela next. They won't attack Nigeria directly, they will support Boko Haram and MEND for a civil war.
WAKE UP!!! History repeats it's self. Cap28 is right about what he is saying. For America to have this empire, it must kil A LOT of people and control many economies and politics. This is why they spend so much on their army.
[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=832556.msg9845383#msg9845383 date=1325016309]conspiracy theorist like u [/quote]I am not a conspiracy theorist. If people stop being brainwashed by the lies the elite tell you (in school or the media) then you can know the truth about this world we live in.
[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=832556.msg9845346#msg9845346 date=1325015999]American CIA predicted Nigeria will disintegrate by 2015 [/quote]Watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z9VxnCBD9W4