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bigfrancis21:
I'm enjoying this. Continue.

You are welcome.

8. Igala is used as a language of trade in parts of the Esan area. These includes places such as Illushi; Urho (Oloshi) and Inyelen. Illushi was founded as a market on Ugboha land while Urho is a blend of Esan and Igala people. Inyele in many respects is similar to Ebu.

The Igbo language is also dominant in this area and there is evidence that it might replace Igala in future. The Igbo dialect spoken here is based on the ones spoken in the West Igbo area. It therefore should not surprise anyone that Igbo names are commonly answered in this area in Urho and especially Inyele. Inyele might be in future be classified as a West Igbo clan rather than Igala or Esan.

10. Ekpon another Esan clan has shifted to Igbo (IKA). But they still retain their identity as Esan people with suggestions that they should be classified as west Igbos. But a deeper look into Ekpon indicates that ancestrally, it has nothing to do with west Igbo people.

They are of Ekpoma origin mixed with some Itsekiri people. The naming style of their villages is clearly Esan (Eguare village) . Many might bear Igbo first names like Ngozi, Emeka, Amaechi etc but their surnames tend to be of Esan origin such as Abhulimen, Iyasele, etc. Their burial rites follow the traditional Edo 7-days pattern rather than the 4 days used in Igbo land including the Ika area.

But interestingly, I often see some west Igbo people canvassing to include Ekpon which ancestrally does not have a common origin with Ika people to be classified as an “Anioma” clan. Now, when you ask them the reasons for it, they tell you, well they speak our language. Yes, they do. Language is the dominant factor and not in this case “ancestral origin”. This is how they shoot themselves in their feet. They contradict their objectives.

You cannot be claiming some Esan people simply because they shifted to Igbo (now branded as Anioma or Ika language) yet suggest that “ancestral origin” should be a critical factor to classify people. Ancestrally Ekpon has nothing to do with Ika people. So why are you claiming them? They will say they speak like us. Then if that is the case, we are Igbos in summary. We should for once face reality and accept how we had been created by God.

The End.

NB: The original writer of this article, Osita Mordi, is an Indigene of Igbodo town, in Ika part of Anioma, Delta state.

5.. Esans generally call all Igbo people east of the Niger “ANAMU”. This is apparently derived from Anam. The Anam people were the first group of east Niger Igbo people to establish contacts with the Esan people mainly through trade and agriculture.

6. Igbos are a dominant force all over Esan land. In the main commercial center of Uromi, Igbos constitute a significant portion of the local economy. A good proportion of the residents in Esan land are of Igbo origin and are well integrated.

7. The Esan people use “EKA” to address anyone from the Ika-Aniocha-Oshimili (Enuani) area. This gives a clue the context the word Eka was used originally. It never referred only to the present Ika people. It referred to the upland west Igbo people who are collectively called Enuani or Eluali (in now what is identified as the Ika dialect). The ESAN and all Edos use the term ORU for the Ukwuani group. Historians like Okojie, often made the mistake of assuming that any Esan community claiming to migrate from “Eka” came from Agbor. The “Ekas” of Ewatto did not come from Agbor but rather from Obomkpa.

NOTES
1. From the list one can see that more Esan people descend from migrations from the Igbo area than the Igbo(Anioma) whose ancestors came from the Esan area.

2. Yet, despite this, no one hears any Esan who claims because his ancestors came from the Igbo area, he is not an Edo. They had been fully assimilated as Edo people. This should be food for thought for those who are denying their Igbo heritage in Anioma.

3. Even two monarchs in Esan at Amahor and Ebelle are of Igbo origin and not from Benin. Yet they had been fully assimilated into the cultural realm of the Edo people. So why are our people failing to accept reality and just move on as Igbos?

4. The presence of Awka descendants in Esan attests to the wide spread nature of the very enterprising Awka people. The village in Igueben itself is named after Awka (Oka). They must had settled in Igueben because Igueben was famous as a iron-work center; a reason its ruler is called OKAIGUN. Igun means iron in Edo.

(11) In Igueben clan, the villages of Idumuagbor came from Agbor while Igbeka came from Mbiri.

(12) Idumuogo also in Igueben migrated from Ugbodu by one Olobunmi.

(13) In Uromi clan Idumuekhure (in Egbele sub clan); Idumu-Oshodi in Efandio sub clan and Eror sub clan all migrated from Agbor while Ukoni sub clan migrated from Igbanke.

(14) In Ugun clan, the people of Agobolo or Ukekiolo migrated from Mbiri clan.

(15)In Ujiogba clan, the people of Ukpato came directly from Ogwashi-Uku.

(16)Idumuoka people in Igueben migrated directly from Awka in Anambra State.

These are the major settlements. A lot of intermarriages existed and still occur in growing numbers between the Anioma and Esan people and from both sides. A great native of Asaba in the nineteenth century Obi Igweli had an Ishan father. His father was a hunter who settled in Asaba . Obi Igweli was a successful trader and had many wives and children and was instrumental in the rise and growth of European influence in Ahaba.

ESAN COMMUNITIES CLAIMING IGBO ORIGIN
(1)In Ewohimi clan, the people of Idumuabogho in Okaigben-Ewohimi migrated from Mbiri (an Anioma clan)

(2) Also in Ewohimi clan, the people of Idumuagbor in Owu-Ewohimi migrated from Agbor.

(3)Amahor an independent Esan clan was founded by one Ewero who migrated from Ute-Okpu. Along with his followers, he brought the clan deity of Amahor people from Ute-Okpu called Oza. The royal family of Amahor is thus of Anioma origin. And since Ute-Okpu itself if of Nri origin, these Esan people have a distinct link with Nri.

(4) Also in Amahor clan in Esan land, the people of Ogo village largely came from Onicha-Olona while the people of Ugbekhae village originated from Igbanke.

(5) Ebelle clan was founded by adventurers from Ukwuani ( known in Edo as “Evbo-Oru”). They were led by one Agbabhoko who according to Okojie, the Esan historian was a son of the ruler of Utagba-Uno (possibly Etua).

(6)Okuta village in Ebelle was founded by hunters from Onicha Olona.

(7) A part of Emuhi-Ekpoma came from Owa.

( The people of Obodogun in Emu-Nekhua came directly from Okpanam and the name seems to have been derived from one of the villages in Okpanam.

(9) In Ewatto clan, the village of Ogbe or Idumu-Iyasele migrated from Obomkpa.

(10) In the sister clan of Ebhosa, the village of Idumunegbon migrated from as well from "Eka" though in documents it is written as “Agbor”.

ANIOMA COMMUNITIES CLAIMING ESAN ORIGIN
Several communities in Anioma claim to have originated from Esan land rather than Benin. These include

(1) The people of Alilor and Aliojeh villages in Idumesah in Ika North East are believed to have migrated from Uromi .

(2) The people of Aliobume also in Idumesah migrated from Ugboha.

(3) The Owerre people of Ute-Okpu are believed to have migrated from Uromi.

(4) In Odiani clan the people of Ogodor and Ugboba founded by Ogboi and Adioge respectively are believed to have migrated from Ishan (possibly Irrua) though another version suggests that they merely migrated from Ishan and came originally from Benin:

(5) The Imogbe villages of Idumuje-Unor was founded by one Bayi. Bayi himself was said to have migrated from Idumuje-Ewohimi and he named his settlement after his place of origin. Later Prince Okwunye from Ubulu-Uku settled and joined him and thereafter became the sovereign of the kingdom.

(6) An Ukhun man from Ishan named Ojezua or Kehue founded Ilabor village in Igbodo.

(7) Ejeme-Unor according to some accounts migrated from Ishan rather than Benin and the founder himself is called Ejeme and was said to have fled from Ishan during the wars of the 1450s. Soon these Esan people were joined by a large group of people from Asaba and gradually the community split along Unor and Aniogor sections.

( In a version of the origin of Ukala people, it suggests that they were originally settled near the present site of Igueben. But left the site following the massive colonization of the area by Esan people following the Idah war of 1516. Whether they were originally of Ishan or aboriginal Igbo people settled in that area is a matter of debate.

9. Some Esan clans are shifting to Anioma dialects. Ekpon originally migrated from Ekpoma in the sixteenth century AD but it is gradually shifted to the Ika dialect. Amahor which is another town to the northwest of Ekpon is also shifting to the Ika dialect. The town of Inyelen was basically Igala speaking similar in many respects to Ebu town.
10. The Egbabonelimin masquerades of the Esan people is in many respects identical to the Egwugwu masquerades found in such Anioma towns like Ugbodu, Ukwunzu, Onicha-Ukwu, idumuje etc. The dances are similar.

diadem10:
Look at the money allocated for SW projects, the SW folks in governance, the reconstruction of the SW federal roads etc yet we're still of the belief that Buhari hasn't done enough, not for us but for Nigeria at large. For example, our money which is rapidly losing its value in relative to dollars, the debt we keep incurring, the non-checking of the rampaging dangerous Fulani folks in Benue, Jos and so-on, his tribalised government etc!

You folks on the other hand are just emotional sentimental clowns who has nothing going for you other than making hate speeches or rejoicing when you felt the Yorubas were marginalised under Jona government yet the same Jona hardly carried out any tangible project in the SE but because he had some ibo clowns in his governance than the Yorubas, all is well for you! What a priority!

What money was allocated to SW? You meant to say Lagos? Lagos always received preferential treatment, irrespective of the government in power.
Did GEJ not build roads in SW connecting Lagos?
Were SW folks not in government during GEJ era? The minister of Agriculture was a Yoruba and was huge during GEJ era.

No. You ZoneBs are not angry with Buhari because of the state of Nigeria. You ZoneBs would rather blame GEJ for the current state of Nigeria. You don't care about any other part of Nigeria.

You are only angry with this administration now because you thought Buhari was going to hand over the total running of this administration to your demi god, Tinubu. Your greedy elites felt they were going to be in the same position they were in 1970, when Gowon gave Yorubas unlimited control of Nigeria economy, which you looted to enrich yourselves.
Just like Awo miscalculated by thinking that Gowon and the North would hand over the political reign to him, so did Tinubu, but unlike Awo, Tinubu couldn't even negotiate economic control for you. Your finance minister is a mere record book keeper.

And the worst is that just like the North checkmated Awo in 1979 by seeking Eastern alliance and reminding the East of Yoruba betrayal, Buhari and the North is doing the same now.

Tinubu can sense it all. He knows where it's all going to end. This is history repeating itself.

The Emotional one here are Afonjas jumping up and down here, leaking their wounds, silently cursing out Buhari, and trying unsuccessfully to hide their growing resentment for Buhari behind their usual nebulous " poor performance" mantra made to cover real intentions which are usually "group serving" and parochial.
Ndo.

7. The royal quarter of any Esan clan is known as “Eguare” or palace. That is where the Onojie resides and immediate members of the royal clan. This is similar to the Ogbe-Obi or Umudei in parts of Anioma. Not all Esan clans follow the principle of primogeniture. The exceptions include the clans of Ukhun and Idoa in the Northwest axis where it is rotated. The Nupes called “Azanama” raided as far south as Irrua. This is partly responsible for the presence of Ishan muslims in such places such as Irrua, and Ewu whose Enijies are muslims.

8. Different dialects exist in Esan. Typically the dialect spoken in Uromi-Irrua is considered the “Central dialect” of Esan people. Igueben which is closely linked to Benin speaks a dialect that is closer to the Bini language. Ekpoma speaks a dialect with strong Owan influences. The Esan dialects persists in such places such as parts of Ehor and adjoining Benin villages as well as Jagbe and Awain clans in Etsako area. In the past many people in Ebu also spoke Esan.

5. Traditionally, Esan people are good farmers growing such crops such as yams, rice, fruits like oranges and pineapples, cassava and other crops. Timber though not as popular as it was in the past is still sourced from the less densely populated parts of Esan land. Crafts such as pottery is popular in places such as Udo. While blacksmithing is popular in places such as Igueben. This is why the ruler of Igueben is not formally called “Onojie”, a title which is usually associated with rulers of Esan kingdoms but OKAIGUN which means one who is a forger of iron.

6. Uromi is the largest clan in Esan followed by Ekpoma , Irrua , Ubiaja and Ewohimi that order. These five clans has over 50 per cent of the population of residents in Esan. Irrua is deemed to be the cultural capital and hosts some of the oldest secondary school in Esan such as the Catholic owned Annunciation College. The ruler of Irrua is called the “OKAJESAN” of Esan or “Ojirrua” and he is traditionally assumed to be the most senior ruler in Esan. The title was bestowed to the rulers of Irrua by the Oba of Benin and it was customary for Esan rulers to send their tributes to the Oba via the Okajesan. Uromi is the commercial capital and the second most populated town in Edo State. It has produced very important personalities. Ubiaja is the administrative capital and hosts many colonial buildings including schools related to the Catholic Church; Ekpoma is the administrative capital of the “Okpebho” group and hosts the Ambrose Alli University; Ewohimi hosts the Pilgrim Baptist Secondary School founded in 1964 by Rev Samuel W. Martin of Issele-Uku. It was also customary for southern Esan rulers to send their tributes to the Oba of Benin via the Onojie of Ewohimi. Who is also regarded as one of the most senior monarchs among the Esan people.

3. Anioma and Esan people had shared a lot in common together. The alternative name “Ishan” seems to be of Anioma origin since Aniomas are known to change the Edo “E” to “I”. Traditionally, it is believed the Ishan people migrated from Benin kingdom which is true for many Anioma communities. But the presence of ancient earthworks in Esan area indicates that the Esan plateau area had already been well settled well before the mass migration from Benin in the 15th century. Radio-carbon dating of the earthworks or moats dates it to the ninth century AD.

4. Ancestrally, the Esan people are a blend of people who came from Benin, Nupe (Emaudo-Ekpoma), Igala (called Ighalan in Esan in such places like Uromi, Ugboha and Irrua), Igbo which we would list, Isoko in such places such as Idumuoweh in Ujiogba; Itsekiri in such places like Ekpon; Afemai especially Uneme people in places like Irrua, Ubiaja and Ugboha; Awka in Igbo land in such places such as Igueben and of course the aboriginal people who built the Esan moats between 800 to 900 AD.

Thanks. Bigfrancis21

Eleme is to Ogoni what Ikwerre is to Igbo.

Their language is definitely Ogoni sounding, but they deny Ogoni people, probably because of economic advantage they feel the hold over the Rest of Ogoniland.

Eleme hosts many multinational companies.

Here is an analysis of what is happening now. We saw it the moment Buhari emerged, when the Afonjas were busy dancing.

diadem10:
How is the clueless Jona better? Is it because he put some Ibo clowns in governance? Why are you ipob clowns still canvassing for the actualisation of second Niger bridge, reconstruction of your poor state of roads etc? Why are you begging Buhari to build these things when your self acclaimed son could have done that?

We all know the people who lack wisdom! We all know you folks woulda been rejoicing like eediots if Buhari government was to do what he's done for the SW to the SE but no, we still don't believe the way he operates is the best for Nigeria!

What has Buhari done for Yorubas?

We are not begging of anything from Buhari, we are "demanding" that infrastructures be sited in our region. It's our right, irrespective of whether a devil or God is occupying Aso rock.

Timbuktuo:
So, how did the PhD-toting drunk fare? That's right, he was an ineffectual buffoon.

Our machinations have led to wisdom, time reveals all truths. Relax we dey come.

The only person who isn't greedy for power is the one who has no plans of ruling which is noone. If you weren't greedyor power, you wouldn't be weeping two years after about Jonathan's loss. It obviously still hurts you guys.

The Igbo race has presented no match to Tinubu throughout its history. I dare you present one such person in Igbo folklore, with proof of course. Don't just pull a name from your arse.

GEJ would always be a better choice to Buhari. If nothing, his presence meant that the Northerners excesses were kept in check. They were being frustrated. Being ruled by an infidel is something Muslims can't tolerate, it drove them mad and crazy, and when men are mad and crazy, their weaknesses become more exposed.

The plan was to keep the Islamic North far away from power as long as possible, frustrate them until they press their self destruction button and then we all can bury the colonial entity and move on.

But Yorubas won't have non of it, your greed and disregard for equity made you believe you could pip the Igbos for the presidency again, just few years after OBJ had spent eight years on top with Igbo support.
You felt you were wise and sophisticated, the Igbos were stupid and emotional, they don't know how to play politics.

You felt you could get Buhari to stay for just a tenure and hand over to Tinubu anointed candidate. Your greed and hatred blinded you from the fact that the North had her own plans too, and that giving banana to a monkey wasn't the problem, it's taking it away from him.
So, here we are.

There is no wisdom to learn from Tinubu forays so far. None. We all saw the trajectory of the path he took Yoruba race to, and we all knew where it was going to end, it was obvious to all, except to Tinubu and Yorubas.

catal:
IGBOS SHOULD NOT BE DISTRACTED IN THEIR PURSUE OF AN INDEPENDENT STATE.

Gbam! This is an opportunity to negotiate our total severance from this demonic union. And not to be drawn into Nigeria again.

We must thread with caution. What just happened to the Afonjas should serve as a reference for "how not to play politics".
It's only a foolish fowl that sees the fellow fowl being slaughtered and not realize that the same knife used to slaughter the mate will be used for it in the future.

An alliance with the North is a no no for me.

Timbuktuo:
You call Afonjas betrayers, but only fools like Osu people will vote based on ethnicity. Yoruba don't follow fools in their folly. We voted pragmatism, taking out Jonathan based on his underwhelming performance. And let's face it, you Osus are only pained because you thought a fellow Osu would ascend the throne following Jonathan's second term, that is what really hurts you guys. You are incapable of rigourous political calculation, and that has been your bane.

That explains why you began you IPOB shenanigans after GEJ's loss, and that explains why you will now vote for Buhari because there seems to be a problem between him and Tinubu. You play like toddlers, and your plan is to throw tantrums and whinge like primary school children. But what is the southwest doing, restategising. We have played and since things don't seem to be going out way, we are being introspective and looking to change tactics. We are not blaming anyone for our failures, we are taking responsibility and changing tack being. You know why? Because we are not Ipobian in nature.

So, go on and vote in Buhari, not because you believe in him, but because you want to spite Yoruba. We are used to being in the opposition, and we'll pivot from there again. Good luck with Biafra, though

You call voting an old incompetent former military dictator without SSCE, pragmatism?

So, where has your rigorous political machinations led you now? You are now an object of ridicule, a living example of " how not to play politics".

It was your greed for power and control that led you to your present state, your political shortsightedness and penchant of thinking yourselves wise and others foolish.
Osibanjo was picked as a VP, a carrot from the North, and you lots started dancing to their tone. Yet Buhari had picked Igbo VPs two times before now, but we saw the stick behind the carrot.

Look who is looking stupid now. All those your praise for Tinubu treachery in betraying a Southern President for Yoruba parochial interests, this is the end result. What a shame.

[b] A LOOK INTO THE RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE IGBO NATION AND ESAN- EDO PEOPLE.
1. The Esan people occupy the area north of Anioma in an area over some 1,162 square miles ( or about 3,000 km2).

It comprises of over 30 clans covering the Ishan Plateau and adjoining lowland areas especially towards the Niger.

The clans include in ESAN WEST five clans covering Ekpoma, Egoro, Urhohi, Ukhun and Idoa.

ESAN CENTRAL with four clans namely Irrua, Ewu, Opoji and Ugbegun.

ESAN NORTH-EAST with two clans namely Uromi and Uzea.

IGUEBEN with 10 clans namely Igueben; Ebelle; Amahor; Ebhosa; Udo; Ujogba; Ogwa ; Ugun; Okalo and Ekpon.
Lastly ESAN SOUTH EAST with 13 towns ( I will explain the use of towns rather than clans) namely Ubiaja; Oria; Onogholo; Illushi or Ozigolo; Ugboha ; Emu; Ohordua; Okhuesan; Orowa; Urho; Ewohimi; Ewatto; Ifeku-South and Inyelen . Ifeku-South is part of Ugboha clan while Illushi town is part of Urho clan also known as Oloshi.


2. The population and land area is distributed as follows Esan West 127,718 ; Esan Central with 105, 242; Esan North East with 121, 989 ; Igueben – 70,276 and lastly Esan South East with 166,309. TOTAL is 591,534. Anioma on the other hand covering 9 LGAs hosts some 1,236,840 people according to the same 2006 census (excluding Igbanke and Ndoni communities which pushes the population to approximately 1.35 million). [/b]

This thread was culled from an article written by Osita Mordi in Proudly Anioma proudly Igbo facebook page.

No way am I claiming these Esan speaking towns as Igbos, neither am I interested in them being a part of Igbo commonwealth.
But I found it interesting that all over modern Southern Nigeria, we only hear stories of Igbo speaking communities who migrated from non Igbo lands to their present locations, with these Igbo speaking people constantly reminding who ever cares to listen, that even though they are Igbo speaking currently, they are actually of non Igbo ancestry and so are not Igbo.

But for a people as adventurous as Ndiigbo, stories of Igbo migration to non Igbo speaking clans are often non existent or muted, and we don't here these non Igbo speaking groups hype on their supposedly Igbo ancestry, neither do Ndiigbo see them as one of us .

Selfish man.

So, if your wife wasn't murdered. If she was still alive with both of you making a living in Kano, you will be shouting "one Nigeria" because the arrangement temporary favoured you? You would easily forget that your fellow Igbos had been murdered in the past by this same people you want to share a nation with.

Sorry for your loss. But it's a pity that you couldn't feel the pain of your fellow Igbos who wanted out of Nigeria, those who get murdered by Nigerian security agents for doing nothing but assert their right to self determination, you probably saw them as foolish people who were out to run you and your wife out of business, as you dreaded the uncertainty that would surround your continued stay in the North in Post Igbo independence. Your valued your personal gains and business over that of the general well being Of the majority of your people.

It's too bad that we still have many Igbos who are still like you were. Believing in Nigeria because Of transient gains, while they despise and see those of us who chant self determination, as enemies out to take away their gains.

Chukwu mu anya. May the death of your wife be avenged by Chukwu.

To me,
Buhari’s government is a punishment, and caution to Nigerians. I think that God is trying to punish us, and at the same time caution us with the present administration, for our past recklessness and mistakes as a nation.

For some Unknown reasons. The bravest and most daring of Ndiigbo always come from Anioma region. Chukwuma an Asaba man staying true to the truth, daring the consequences. Mbaka a SEner selling his soul for cheap popularity with this administration.

Bishop Chukwuma saying the truth. Buhari is a punishment to Nigerians for not saving during the bountiful days for rainy days.

Rilwayne001:
So you don't know and you have the chutzpah to speculate that all that is in it is directly opposite what's on the front page?

All these lies after you've been bursted. SMH



I don't have any evidence and I'm not here to defend Buhari.


Here's is an excerpt from Buhari's speech at Chattam House in London:
[i] ".......I have heard and read references to me as a former dictator .... Let me say without sounding defensive that dictatorship goes with military rule, though some might be less dictatorial than others. I take responsibility for whatever happened under my watch. I cannot change the past. But I can change the present and the future. So before you is a former military ruler and a converted democrat who is ready to operate under democratic norms and is subjecting himself to the rigours of democratic elections for the fourth time.
Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/02/chatham-house-buharis-speech-on-nigerias-transition/

So he made it clear that he's a changed man. Like i said, anyone including you could have fell for this.




Totally different! Don't feign ignorance by telling me you can't spot it.



I don't care! Just stop spreading lies here because we'll scrutinize it.

I know you boycotted most of my post because you can't defend your lies again. Why do you guys like deceiving yourself like this?

1. You busted nothing. All you are doing is speculation.

2. Buhari never accepted that he was wrong to have truncated the nation's democracy, neither did he ever admit that Abacha his good friend was a corrupt kleptomaniac that looted the country dry.
I don't really understand the argument of being a "changed man" or whatever that means.


3. No, parts of your post were irrelevant to our discussion and didn't deserve any reply.

chiefobdk:
BiafraudExposed the greatest yoruba man dead and alive. We yoruba muslims support u to expose ipod yoots. You re motr intelligent dan awolowo. You re even greater than our fallen demon aka oduduwa. . There will be no biafra insha Allah. . . We must continue to cry secretly so the Igbos wont leave us at d mercy of hausa fulani. . Pls unban BiafraudExposed so he continue exposing...

Epic!

Rilwayne001:
Thank you! However, it remains your opinion and it doesn't count.



Really? I actually understand, that newspaper use such concept to sway buyers into wanting to read the contents, but this is rather to exaggerated and i can confidently say that the headline in the frontpage is the same thing as what's in the content. Perhaps you will like to propose or possibly tell me what was in the content that is totally different from what they wrote in the front page.

Even this thread is not in favor of this your blatant lie. According to the from page of the newspaper i quoted, it says "Kenneth Okonkwo storm court IN SUPPORT OF NNAMDI KANU". So are you telling me that the content is directly opposite what's on the front page? Is he really in support of him or not?



This is not true and you are only deceiving yourself. Perhaps you didn't see this:

https://www.nairaland.com/attachments/4474495_img20161112153911_jpegff0a53a9a7ca1024134296fce8da847c.jpg

So tell me, what's the possible contents? When did they go to court and when did Nigeria admit defeat? When did they go to EU and when did they make the call for referendum for Biafra?

If really it's not as they presented it on the front page, then what are the possible contents?

Here's another one https://www.nairaland.com/3461554/senator-warns-buhari-release-nnamdi
What explanation do you have aside your lies to cover lies in other to deceive your illiterate brothers who only wanted to hear what makes them happy and not reality itself?




Buhari claimed to have repented from his past and human are susceptible to change hence the reason why he was given another chance. Anyone could have fall for that. This is totally different from lying at the face of reality which Biafra and people like you stand for.




I'm not against the growth and even actualization of Biafra, but stop lying.

1. We don't know content of those headlines, so we can only speculate. They could have been made solely to seize the attention of the would be readers.

2. Buhari never for once admitted that Abacha was corrupt and indeed looted our treasury, if you have evidence of him doing otherwise, Post it here.
He never also apologized for truncating Nigeria's nascent democracy in 1983.
So, how exactly is this different?

3. Whether you are against or for Biafra would not count in the end. What would count is whether Biafrans want Biafra, and want they are willing to do to achieve it.

LorDBolton:
This is why I say ya'll leaving will be a sight to behold.

Your brain is empty, thus it's sooo sooo easy for the politicians to brainwash people like u.

Go and dispute the table below ANYWHERE...

Stop behaving like a Tout.

What table? Have you taken your drugs today?

Rilwayne001:
This is totally different and i will urge you to stop acting like a slowpoke. First of all, not fulfilling promise is totally different from lying at the face of reality. Even a fool will know that that newspaper headline is out there to deceive another set of fools who think conceivability is the same thing as possibility. Perhaps you will like to show us where Donald Trump vowed to create Biafra Republic




That's for Zombies, and so far I'm not a zombie, your opinion doesn't count here. Face your fellow brainwashed igboid to see reality for what it is and stop deceiving themselves into believing this your fight for Biafra must be won by all means including lying at the face of reality.

You are not a brilliant person.
That's a newspaper headline. It meant to make you want to read the content. The content of that headline might actually not be saying same thing as that headline. Every average Nigerian knows this.

No. Buhari being a part of the most corrupt regime in Nigeria and still claim to be incorruptible and seen as such by Afonjas and Ndi ugwu is not a promise, it's a bold face lie.

Buhari lying about Abacha not stealing in the presence of myriads of evidence pointing to the contrary, rightly paints him as a liar and an untrustworthy character, that can lie to protect corrupt friends and cronies. But do Afonjas and Zone Bs see it that way? No!

So what right do they have to condemn IPOB?

And Yes. Your opinion doesn't count. What you think or doesn't think about IPOB is meaningless, as the members will continue to grow and their self determination ideology will continue proliferating in the minds of up coming Igbo generation.
So you can as well shove your opinion down the place the sun doesn't shine.

LorDBolton:
I look forward to igbos leaving nigeria...

It will be a sight to behold.

I keep hearing people claim prior to oil discovery the old eastern region was "feeding" nigeria.

Truth is The western region fed nigeria thru cocoa exports, follow by the north through cotton exports

Palm oil was the 3rd in terms of revenue generation and back then revenue sharing formula was better, even when crude oil was discovered the revenue was shared region- 50% FG- 20% (general purse for all to share- 30%)

It was the "war" that caused a change to it.

The easiest way to get fanatic support is to tell people they're being "attacked". Even trump won based on his "anti-immigration" rhetoric.

Barr okonkwo has said it all, one nigeria benefits the igbos, it would amount to hypocrisy to start trooping back into the "zoo" after gaining independence.

Or forming "brotherly" after independence.

Even the. ND (ss) states have received a whooping N3tn+ since independence, the closest is Nw with N1tn+ yet some educated fools are telling u that northerners are taking all the money and giving the ss peanuts.

#simple truth

Just imagine the kind of nonsense propaganda falsehoods your Afonjaic brain is reeling out.

Nawao!

Rilwayne001:
That is exactly how people are being brainwashed in reality. Tell them what they want to hear - no matter how absurd it may sound to their ear, they will still believe it, either because they are afraid it might be true of because they wanted it to be true.

Same way a man who served under the most corrupt administration in Nigeria, Abacha admin, promised ZoneBs that he was going to fight corruption.And they believed.
The same man that continues to claim that Abacha didn't steal despite evidence to the contrary, yet Zone Bs, still call him the corruption fighter.

Same way he brainwashed Zone Bs that he would:
1. Make one naire=one dollar
2. Stabilize crude oil global price.
3. Give 5000 naira to unemployed youths
4. Feed school children
5. Improve power supply
6. Sell the presidential air fleets
7. Etc

And Zone Bs all agreed. You are not as wise as you think. Your folly baffles even the profoundly retarded.

Timbuktuo:
Not so simple,sir. I read somewhere there are more registered Democrats than their are registered Republicans. Which, I think, is an argument for keeping the electoral college. Also. don't discount the fact many just didn't like Trump, and perhaps another more establishment Republican might have done better with the popular vote.

Whether democrats or republicans, they are still Americans.

So it wouldn't be wrong to say that greater number of Americans voted for Clinton.
You can classify the type of Americans that did, but they are still Americans, nonetheless .

BiafraudExposed:
Lol... where was ijebu Igbo mentioned

That's the only part of Igboland, an Afonja like you can hail from. Ijebu Igbo.