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CSTR13:
Who cares?
I have learnt not to give a shitt about anybody else in that country apart from my own ethnic.
They are all foes in the grand scheme of things.

Perfect!

When the chips are down, these people will do more to us to justify their northern affinity to their Hausa-Fulani overlords.

Everyone should carry their own cross Biko.One of The highest massacre of Igbos during 1966 pogroms took place in Makurdi and was carried out by Idomas and Tivs,to the pleasure of their Hausa-Fulani overlords.

Onye obuna zaa afa nna ya, biko.

I wish them the best, but Igbo first before anyother is the motto.

It's an evidence on why Biafra will become a better nation than Nigeria.
Countries become better when the people can unite to challenge the government, when people are ready to die for the country.
In Biafra, the bad leaders will be challenged and removed by the masses, because the masses are of same stock and can easily be rallied to achieve a purpose.

So let Igbos take the people they are lucky to have in the South East and South South and forget about Biafra, as Calabar, Efik, Annang, Ijaws and etc are clearly not Igbos.

I'd take it that you are a comedian just seeking for attention.

Benin was a Yoruba empire that covered parts of Anambra, Delta, Rivers and if you are a titled person or an indigene in all those places today, then your ancestors were not Igbos as at five hundred years ago. They were Yoruba people whose capital was Benin but due to intermarriages, trade and interraction, you are now Igbos.

Can you imagine? Just negodu!

The Eastern minorities jubilated but the Eastern government responded by declaring an independent Republic of Biafra which led to a civil war which they lost.

If this was true, then Gowon wouldn't have rejected the option of plebiscite on Eastern minority areas in Biafra offered to him by Ojukwu.

Yorubas must stop all these falsehoods, it's nolonger 20th century, it's the 21st. You can't get away with them.

Later the North and the East fell out with each other, leading to a coup and a countercoup which saw the Gen Gowon Northern led government splitting all the regions again by decree, save the Midwest.

Oga! The coup was not caused by Igbos falling out with the North, the counter coup, maybe, but the coup was caused by the events happening in the western region.

Igbo controlled East and Hausa Fulani controlled North engineered the breakup of the West via a referendum in 1963 with their NPC/NCNC coalition government.

What's the meaning of this fuckery? Una no dey tire for these lies?

but the Yoruba are the number one ethnic group in Africa by numbers.

The Ndoki are an Igbo-speaking group which inhabit a vast area located around the southern most fringe of the Imo river and sprawls into three states of Nigeria, namely Abia, Akwa Ibom and Rivers. They are mainly farmers, traders and fishermen.



m.guardian.ng/art/egwu-onwa-among-the-ndoki-of-rivers-state/

TheSonOfMark:
Rubbish! Border towns have always interacted but the people maintain their identities.

The Opobos and Ogonis of Rivers State understand basic Ibibio 'cause they are close to Akwaibom communities but certainly not 'Ibibiod'. Heck! Our meals are even similar yet we do not go about forcing the Ibibio tag on them.

The Ikas and Obot Akaras are Annangs (Ibibiod) who understand Igbo but are they are purely Annangs all the same.

There are Akwaibom L.G.As who border Abia; hence they understand Igbo and vice versa. Get your facts rights!

P.S: Half the supposed 'languages' in the quoted link are slightly varieting dialects of Ibibio just like there are various dialects of the Yoruba and Igbo languages.

The Ndoki-Igbo are Igbo people, and they are spread in 3 states of Akwaibom, Abia and Rivers, no thanks to boundary adjustment of 1976.
How hard is this for you to understand?

The Ndoki are an Igbo-speaking group which inhabit a vast area located around the southern most fringe of the Imo river and sprawls into three states of Nigeria, namely Abia, Akwa Ibom and Rivers. They are mainly farmers, traders and fishermen.

m.guardian.ng/art/egwu-onwa-among-the-ndoki-of-rivers-state/

TheSonOfMark:
Hogwash! A quick search on the web about "Ohaobu" reveals no official comfirmation of it being an Igbo-speaking communities.
You posted a free edition blog to serve as evidence? 'Ohaobu' isn't even mentioned in any trust news site!

You mentioned three communities but when put inside the dock of hard facts, your defence crumbled like a small sand dune hit by ocean waves.

They might actually be more than three, but those three are the ones I'm sure of.

TheSonOfMark:
My business is Akwaibom, not other states.

The only mention of the debated communities being Igbo on the web is a Wikipedia page created by you land-grabbers. Any fool can create and edit a Wikipedia page.

http://www.aksgonline.com.ws033.alentus.com/about_people_ethnicity.aspx

Look at the column for indigenous spoken languages in the state.

olihilistic:
I don't have hatred for Igbo race but I must confess you guys don't like telling the truth.
Your so called discoveries stinks and disgusts.

The reach Of the Igbo nation just pains you. You are a Nigerian, naturally, that's how you are wired, I'm not surprised.

But the truth remains that there are Indigenous Igbo speaking communities in Benue state, and in fullness of time, they and their ancestral lands will be reunited with those of their kin and kiths in Ebonyi state.

TheSonOfMark:
He doesn't realize I've been to all the thirty-one L.G.As in my state and know my people's history more than the average young person does. He can only fool the uninformed.

You are John snow, if you are not aware that Ndoki tribe of Igbo was balkanized after the war and placed in three states of Rivers( Oyigbo LGA), Abia( Ukwa East LGA) and Akwaibom( Mkpukpuagu,Ogbuagu and Ohaobu in Ukanafun LGA of Akwaibom).
This is common knowledge.

olihilistic:
Guy can you stop lying before I command thunder on you??.
The clans communities in Obi are as follows..
Irabi
Adiko
Obarike
Itogo
Adum
Orihi
Ogore
Igwee (not in Igbo)
Odiapa
Okpokwu
Itakpa
Ikwokwu.
So where is an Igbo community here??
Mind you I was born and brought up in obi so don't tell me what you don't know
http://www.funkeoyinbopepper.com/stories/who-are-igede-people-in-nigeria/

Oga. Your link is not opening.

Here are Igbos indigenous to Benue state speaking:http://thenationonlineng.net/agony-igbos-benue/
That's a national daily reporting the news.

I'm done having this argument with you.

ibom:theinknewspaper..com.ng/2014/08/aksg-to-commence-free-education-at.html?m=1

] Elder Akpan who is also chairman, House committee on public accounts maintained that the process of integration of a people takes a gradual approach and appealed to the people to continue in their support to local and state governments. The house member expressed appreciation to the chairman house committee on education, Dr (Mrs) Ekaette Ebong Okon and the Ukanafun Chairman for the proactive roles they played in ensuring that the school commences in September. He thanked the people for their understanding, emphasizing that politics is for development and not for enmity and appealed to Ohaobu people for continuous support Governor Akpabio administration. The lawmaker used the occasion to drum support for continuity to herald a government that would continue in the giant studies of Governor Akpabio and even surpasses Uncommon Transformation renaissance.
In an address presented by Mr. Albert Nwoko on behalf on Ohaobu people, the community thanked “our detribalized Governor and uncommon transformer, Chief (Dr) Godswill Akpabio (CON) who graciously gave approval of this visit with a view to transform our school and community. May God richly bless him”. He gave assurance that Ohaobu is a safe home and her people are peace-loving, hospitable and accommodating. In reaffirmation to our earlier resolution whatsoever infrastructure and manpower brought is safe and secure. We are resolute our undertaking”.
Responding, the chairman of State Universal Basic Education Board, Obonganwan Grace Ekong expressed the readiness of the State Government to re-open the primary school in Ohaobu, pointing out that with the co-operation and understanding of the community the children of the community would enjoy the free and compulsory education of the State Government.
The SUBEB chairman charged the people of Ohaobu community to live by their words as they have assuring protection of lives of government officials and property.
The event was attended by SUBEB topbrass, members of executive and legislative arms of Ukanafun Local Government, Ohaobu community leaders, among others.

Tuesday, 5 August 2014
AKSG to commence free education at Ohaobu, September
The Akwa Ibom State Government is to extend free and compulsory education policy to Ohaobu Community in Ukanafun Local Government Area next September.
The commissioner for education in the State, Prof (Mrs) Atim Antai disclosed this at Ohaobu during an inspection visit to the area on Friday. The commissioner explained that the visit followed a letter of appeal by the community some months before that their primary school shut down for some years ago. She stated that the school would be re-opened so that their children should enjoy the free education policy of the State Government. She described education as a veritable instrument for the development of the youths who are the leaders of tomorrow.
The commissioner described Ohaobu community as forward-looking and progressive people who seek bright future for their children. She advised Ohaobu people to ensure the protection of facilities that would be provided by the government, for the reopening of the school closed down some years ago because of a little misunderstanding.
The commissioner commended the dogged persistence of the member representing Ukanafun State Constituency in the State House of Assembly, Rt. Hon Aniekan S. Akpan for the spadework he had done towards the re-opening the school. She said the determination of Akpan who is the Deputy Chairman, House Committee on Education and the understanding of the council chairman, Apostle Sylvester Udokang have paid off as free and compulsory education set for the Ibo-speaking frontier Ohaobu community in Ukanafun Local Government Area.
The education commissioner advised Ohaobu people to bury the hatchet as development can only take place in an atmosphere of peace and tranquility even as the guarantee on security has been documented.
In a related development, the council chairman, Apostle Udokang thanked the Ohaobu people for their peaceful disposition and understanding and advised them to support the State Government under Governor Akpabio who has brought free and compulsory education to their doorstep. He charged them to take advantage of the laudable policy to prepare their children for a promising future. The chairman expressed appreciation for the supportive role of Ohaobu community to Ukanafun L.G.A.
The deputy chairman, House committee on education and member representing Ukanafun State Constituency in the Akwa Ibom State House of Assembly, Rt Hon Aniekan Akpan assured the people of Ohaobu that more dividends of the democracy would be delivered to them. He explained that the State government provided the electricity and the health centre in Ohaobu, advising them to remain law-abiding, as one of their own would represent the community someday.

TheSonOfMark:
You still don't get it, do you? Azumini is in ABIA State, not AKWAIBOM. There's an old, rusty signboard which reads "Welcome to Abia State at the beginning of Azumini's untarred road which leads to Aba but its people bear Akwaibom names too. Trying to play smart? Mention the AKWAIBOM L.G.As in which these supposed Igbo communities are located.

Azumini people bear Igbo names not Akwaibom names.
Except on few occasions,especially few with Akwaibom mothers that bear Akwa Ibom first names.

Names in Azumini are basically Igbo names, both surname and first name.
Never said Azumini is in Akwaibom, just pointing out to you that the town is an Igbo town and not Akwaibom influenced as much as you think.

olihilistic:
You said I am ignorant.
Do you know that I am from Obi?
No.,you wouldn't know.
We are igede our tribe is Igede.
We are not Igbo.

Igede people are the majority in Obi, but there are Igbo indigenous communities in Obi LGA, when you go home next time, visit your LGA headquarters and make enquiries, you will be put through.

TheSonOfMark:
Man, there are no Ndoki-Igbo communities in Akwaibom. The Azuminis/ Azumires aren't even in Akwaibom but they speak our languages fluently.

The Azuminis are neighbours to the Annangs who are wholely Akwaibomites and speak a variation of Ibibio - Annang.

I challenge you to mention just one Akwaibom L.G.A with a single Igbo community.

Lol! Do you know the meaning of Azumini?

It's rooted in Igbo, it means " the back of river/ water".

Some Azumini people speak Annang fluently as second language to communicate with their Annang neighbors, just as Okoloma people speak Ogoni as second language to communicate with their Tai Ogoni neighbours.

The name is Azumini please, stop disfiguring it.

Yes, Ogbuagu, Mkpukpuagu,are all Ndoki-Igbo speaking communities in Akwaibom state.

olihilistic:
Please can you tell me where they are located in Benue??

Okpokwu, Obi and Oju LGAs.

thenationonlineng.net/agony-igbos-benue/

Here is a topic in NL about them:https://www.nairaland.com/2015869/agony-igbos-benue

olihilistic:
There are no Igbo in Benue state.
Get you facts right before posting.

There are Igbos indigenous to Benue state, stop displaying your ignorance here.

TheSonOfMark:
There are Igbo settlements in Akwaibom State!

Oddly, the Azumire people of Abia State speak and bear Akwaibom language(s) and names respectively. Stop the falsehood!

There are Ndoki-Igbo communities in Akwaibom state.
Ndoki was divided into Abia, Rivers and Akwaibom by Mammar Nasir boundary adjustment program of 1976.
Azumini people speak Ndoki dialect of Igbo language.
They have few loan Akwa Ibom words in their language.

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For Joseph N. Egwu, a prominent scholar and historian “The wars between Benin and Agbor are not as simple as Egherevba puts them. Even using his accounts, it seems that the relationship was that of a series of fluctuations and adjustments”.

This position of Egwu is strongly supported by one tradition of Agbor as narrated by Iduwe. According to Iduwe “Our ancestors had long established an autonomous kingdom based on Eze title before our contact with Benin”.

“Agbor Nta formerly called Ominije is the cradle of civilization. Ogelle or Ogene lived as the great priest. He became Oriowor and was greeted “Oriowor or Oken Eze” meaning “Oriowor, the Great King” (Anioma Essence, 2007). Osita Mordi claims that “The kingdom began to show signs of weakness following the demise of Obi Adigwe. Agbor Kingdom was weakened by the unhealthy attitudes of the two sons of Obi Adigwe who began to shove for power to ascend the throne following the demise of their father. This was one of the causes of the civil war that ravaged the kingdom in 18th century.
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Intense!

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Agbor remains the largest of Ika communities with close geographical location to Benin City. Its constant wars with Benin are well-known. This may have also accounted for its consideration as the “most politically and militarily powerful of all Ika clans as recorded by Chukwu Ebuka and Iwueze Awele Success. The wars which lasted until the 19th century may have also swelled the military prowess of the community and helped to make it a force to reckon with within the Ika nation (Simpson, 1936). There is therefore no doubt that within the period under study, Agbor remained the headache of the Benin Kingdom until the 18th century.

The Legendary Benin Historian, Joseph Egharevba dismissively presented Agbor as a Benin vassal whose Chief (Obi/Dein) was in constant rebellion against the Benin Kingdom to the extent that the Kingdom had to take steps to bring the situation under control. Egherevba gave account of how Oba Orhogbua authorized one of his generals, Agbon to restore peace at all cost. Agbon then captured Idigi territory which he renamed Agbon later corrupted to “Agbor”. The people of Agbor as a result of this development were compelled to maintain the hard sought loyalty to Benin but this was only short-lived as they again revolted this time during the reign of Oba Ovoramwen. As we were again told, Agbor was to be severely punished but for the 1897 conquest of Benin by the British forces and consequent capture of Oba Ovoramwen.

For Joseph N. Egwu, a prominent scholar and historian “The wars between Benin and Agbor are not as simple as Egherevba puts them. Even using his accounts, it seems that the relationship was that of a series of fluctuations and adjustments”.

This position of Egwu is strongly supported by one tradition of Agbor as narrated by Iduwe. According to Iduwe “Our ancestors had long established an autonomous kingdom based on Eze title before our contact with Benin”.

“Agbor Nta formerly called Ominije is the cradle of civilization. Ogelle or Ogene lived as the great priest. He became Oriowor and was greeted “Oriowor or Oken Eze” meaning “Oriowor, the Great King” (Anioma Essence, 2007). Osita Mordi claims that “The kingdom began to show signs of weakness following the demise of Obi Adigwe. Agbor Kingdom was weakened by the unhealthy attitudes of the two sons of Obi Adigwe who began to shove for power to ascend the throne following the demise of their father. This was one of the causes of the civil war that ravaged the kingdom in 18th century.

Again, we hear from Osita Mordi that “The supposed provocation which Chief Egharevba referred to which induced Oba Ovonramwen to prepare a declaration of war was not because Agbor had revolted against the rule of Benin but because Agbor had blocked all channels through which the Benin collected royalties from the Southern Esan clans demanding that a share of such royalties should come to them (Agbor)”.

The history of Agbor like other communities is based on oral tradition. Popular oral account of the community therefore traces its origin to Ogunagbon, the believed founder of Agbor who left Benin with his followers and first settled in Ominijie, located in present Agbor Nta (Emeka Esogbue, 2008). This makes Agbor Nta Agbor’s oldest settlement. One of his chiefs was to later settle in an area known as Agbon. The word “Agbon” means “Earth” or “Land”.

Oral tradition as well as documented history claims that the Dein Dynasty was founded by Ebonka who reigned as the kingdom’s first Dein (1270-1307). “Dein” is derived from “Dehin”, a word strongly attached to “Warrior”.

The market day for Agbor-Obi is Nkwor.

Past Deins of Agbor

(i) Dein Ebonka (1270-1307),(ii) Owuwu (1307-1333), (iii) Akina (1333-1460), (iv) Agho (1460-1518), (v) Oguade (1518-1594), (vi) Aisama (1594-1630), (vii) Oseh (1630-1650), (viii) Adigwe (1650-1740), (ix) Dein Modu (1650-1795), (x) Dein Obanor (1795-1795), (xi) Dein Igbe Nije (1795-1885), (xii) Dein Odin (1885-1890), (xiii) Dein Gbenoba (1890-1911), (xiv) Dein Agbobu (1911-1935), (xv) Obi Gbewoba (1935-1967), (xvi) Dein Ikenchuku (1967-1979)(Information obtained from Omania Magazine).

(To be continued )

http://thepointernewsonline.com/?p=15886

Past Deins of Agbor

(i) Dein Ebonka (1270-1307),(ii) Owuwu (1307-1333), (iii) Akina (1333-1460), (iv) Agho (1460-1518), (v) Oguade (1518-1594), (vi) Aisama (1594-1630), (vii) Oseh (1630-1650), (viii) Adigwe (1650-1740), (ix) Dein Modu (1650-1795), (x) Dein Obanor (1795-1795), (xi) Dein Igbe Nije (1795-1885), (xii) Dein Odin (1885-1890), (xiii) Dein Gbenoba (1890-1911), (xiv) Dein Agbobu (1911-1935), (xv) Obi Gbewoba (1935-1967), (xvi) Dein Ikenchuku (1967-1979)(Information obtained from Omania Magazine).


Notice that the first Dein, Ebonka, meaning kindred is greater, clearly had an Igbo name, before the Edo corruption of names started. And we can still see Adigwe( clearly Igbo) surfacing in list, despite strong Edo influence in the area.

I remember asking Agbontaen how exactly did the first Dein of Agbor end up with an Igbo name, when Igbos are supposed to be migrants in the area, he as usual, went livid like most irrational Igbophobic folks, and deflected the question and finally ended up arguing that Ebonka is not an Igbo name, , that it's an Ika name.

ehikwe22:
READ THIS CAREFULLY AND TELL ME HOW DEIN SAID HE WAS FROM AGULERI

There was a report then that the Oba of Benin took custody of you then, can you confirm this ?
Certainly, you can imagine that the Oba of Benin and Ooni of Ife were quite instrumental with the government of the day in making sure that I was crowned. Many people do not understand that the relationship between Benin and Agbor kingdoms is a very ancient one. We are direct blood brothers, so at that time, there was a lot of pandemonium, my life was at risk, the safest place for me then was to have stayed with my brother, the Oba of Benin.

Therefore, I was there briefly before they finally took me abroad. At what point in your life did you find out that you are a king?

From the moment I was born, I knew that I am a monarch to be, just like my son, he carries his royalty very well

. There was this succession battle while you were outside the country, how did it play out?

First, there was never anything like a succession battle, so you have two assumed facts that are very incorrect. We have a tradition here that dates back to 721 BC, which is our first dynasty of which I am the 19th monarch. From 1270 AD, the monarchy here is hereditary, so if you know that there is a hereditary monarchy and there was a vacuum, then there cannot be a succession battle. The interest then was simply a matter of the Regency Council; a regency council had to be in place to manage the affairs of the kingdom. Of course, the regency council is just like an authority, an agency, it is something that happens whenever there is a vacancy anywhere in this country, so everybody was very interested, that was simply what it was.

Read more at: http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/08/what-buhari-should-do-with-tompolo-asari-dein-of-agbor/

What is the relevance of this news article to the topic in discuss?

The Onwuejeogwu of a man was the brain behind a book purportedly written by the Obi, the Obi later accepted this. but Owa indigenes denounced the book and released their own history.

Other than your empty words, do you have any evidence to prove that Obi of Owa was not the author of the book where he acknowledged Owa nri ancestry?

Fremancipation:
That guy's character based on his opinions is suspect. You and Ngozi have exposed his fuccked up mentality.

He seem to have this self hate mentality.
" Fellow Igbos denied me job opportunity, Arewa-Oduanistanis provided me with one, therefore Igbos are bad people, Arewa-Oduanistanis are good people, and I must now start hating my people and accepting all lies levied against them, as a wacky way of paying them back for not giving me job when I needed one".

Igbos are academics like Ben Omalu whose Medical research was made into a Will Smith Movie, so are Yoruba's like the Yoruba Surgeon in USA who performed a surgery on an unborn child and put the Child back in the womb that was carried by American Newspaper s
The guy that designed the Chevrolet Volt in America is a Northerner


I am Igbo not Yoruba and don't insult another tribe, its disrespectful.

You are not serious. You downplay all Igbo achievements why you overhype those of Of other groups.
The Yoruba surgeon wasn't the lead Surgeon in that surgery, he was an assistant surgeon, Omalu input is more significant than his.

That Hausa/Fulani Guy didn't design any Chevrolet, he was a mere floor member of the Design crew, Bob Boniface designed Chevrolet volt, yet the Arewa-Oduanistanis that don't chest beat in your dreams,?were busy lying all over the media assigning accolades he didn't earn to him.