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benalvino: jesus was head of man... but what was he? man isnt it?

Is Jesus a woman now??......

And are you saying Jesus isn't still the head of man??...because I see you saying ""was head of man""....please 1 corinthians 11:3 was written years after Jesus ascended to heaven,sitting at God the Fathers right hand....

benalvino: the father is Greater than him... What was Jesus? God... simple... him and the father share same exact nature....

And how does that make them one GOD??......

If Jesus shared with the nature of mortal man(flesh and blood) how would that make him an equal with man??......

When Jesus was on earth could you have mentioned any flesh and blood who was an equal to him??......

The Father remains greater than Jesus for all eternity and so remains the one GOD and not Jesus sharing that position with him....

that is why even Jesus calls the Father ""MY GOD""

benalvino: thats why i told you before that obama is greater than you but not better than you... you and him share same nature...

And I told you when I gave you that analogy that obama is better than all americans...because he is the head of them all...if the rest citizens are as good as obama,let them be the head of obama or become the one president with him...chikna!!!!....

benalvino: Phil 2:6
Who, being in very nature God,
did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage;

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rather, he made himself nothing
by taking the very nature[b] of a servant,
being made in human likeness.

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And being found in appearance as a man,
he humbled himself
by becoming obedient to death—
even death on a cross!

Enough of philipians my bro......

This scripture does not prove Jesus is the one GOD.......

Read down the next verses to the end and you would see who the one God is...the Father

benalvino: My point has been made... Trinitarians says same thing... The son is the 2nd and father is greater than the son... But the 2 are the one God.

I am happy U learn something unlike ijawkid that says Satan is a divine being like God.

1...The bolded is a paradox......



You can't be greater than someone and still be an equal to that person....

Namadi sambo who is lesser than Goodluck can't be the one president with Goodluck....no way!!!!!


Jesus is greater than man....are we(man) the same with Jesus??....are we ONE JESUS??...do we make one JESUS??....

What you always fail to do is apply your thinking of husband and wife,the Father and Jesus to Jesus and man......you always forget or maybe intentionally avoid extending your analogy to Jesus and man.......

The next time you say the Father and Jesus are one GOD or make up one GOD be ready to agree that Jesus and man makes up one JESUS.......


The Father is greater than Jesus and remains the one GOD.....the scriptures is not crazy to maintain the truth that the Father remains the one GOD....he is GREATER than Jesus in every way........Jesus can't be the one GOD with the Father because he is lesser than the Father.......no wayo involved...



2...And as regards the word divine I said satan is Godlike in the sense that he came from God........

Satan is supernatural...

Satan is a spirit just like God....

You are misconstruing my statements and also avoiding the meanings of the word divine in its entirety....

Where do you think words like divination,diviners all stem from??.......


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@HISBLUD.....



Oboy it seems the HRV is rendering the verses you have put up with respect to to these words found in the scripture...
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Exodus 23:20-21

20 “See, I am sending an angel ahead of you to
guard you along the way and to bring you to the
place I have prepared. 21 Pay attention to him
and listen to what he says. Do not rebel
against him; he will not forgive your rebellion,
since my Name is in him.
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Also john 5:37-43

37 And
the Father who sent me has himself testified
concerning me. You have never heard his voice
nor seen his form, 38 nor does his word dwell
in you, for you do not believe the one he sent.
39 You study[c] the Scriptures diligently
because you think that in them you have
eternal life. These are the very Scriptures
that testify about me, 40 yet you refuse to
come to me to have life.
41 “I do not accept glory from human beings,
42 but I know you. I know that you do not have
the love of God in your hearts. 43 I have come
in my Father’s name, and you do not accept me;
but if someone else comes in his own name, you
will accept him. _
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If Jesus came in his Fathers name/the Fathers name(YHWH) is in Yeshua then I have no problem with the rendering you're forwarding..

By virtue of the above concrete verses from the scriptures I am not too worried of the HRV rendering........

But you're gonna be the one to definitly have problems with the scriptures from genesis to revelation....

YHWH remains one YHWH who decides in whom he would put his name in or who he appoints to act in his name.....


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Because as we've seen from the for-going verses Yeshua isn't YHWH himself.....

Reasons...

1....Yeshua was created by YHWH...Yeshua had a beginning....which collapses your whole hopes of Yehsua been YHWH and also your hold on the trinity,...




See below...
Proverbs 8:22

NET Bible (©2006)
The LORD created me as the
beginning of his works, before his
deeds of long ago.

GNT

22 "The Lord(YHWH) created me first of all, the
first of his works, long ago. 23 I was made in
the very beginning, at the first, before the
world began.

Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation......

GBAM!!!!!!!


2..YHWH does not have a Father and a GOD over HIM...

3...YHWH has never been seen by any man .....I repeat no one has seen YHWH.....even YEshua confirmed it.....

4..YHWH does not die,cannot die,and has never died before(that would mean the end of me been a christian if my GOD can die)...

5..YHWH is not under the authority of anyone....

6...YHWH does not and has never cried to anyone for help......

Should I go on??.....




If it is your plan to use the HRV to delude yourself you are on a very log thing........



You freaking polytheist....


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@OP...hope you've not been having dealings with the demons lately....

Because I just can't understand why you would be dreaming of death and coffins..........



Or have you been watching too much of evil dead,the possessions, And some other horror movies that are messing with your head??.........

benalvino: thats not what divine means abeg you... divine comes from God... GOD is good satan is bad... why is Jesus the Exact image of the father and we are not?

That's what divine also means....

You are stunting your understanding skills here.......

Bad or Good satan is like GOD.......

He is a spirit and he is supernatural........

benalvino: Because Jesus is exactly what the father is... characteristics... behavior everything...
are you the exact image of the father no... are you the exact image of jesus no... How are you divine then? you are the image of adam at the moment... we are trying to be the image of christ and how can you be that? is by being Christlike which means behavior and his footsteps...

Jesus is the one person who exhibits Gods attributes to the fullest.......

We are not equal to Jesus ,but we are also Gods image in that we also exhibit these Godly qualities but to a lesser degree........

Jesus and all of us are all images of God.....

We all stem from the Father....we all are Godlike(though not to the same degree)....

This is why Jesus is called Gods firstborn......

Na him resemble God pass all of us.....

benalvino: i am concentrating on Satan because you said he is divine how can you make such statement. Bad thing like satan cannot be divine o... Cause Divine is from God alone.

And yes I stand by my words by virtue of the fact that he came from God......

Satn didn't spring from my back yard.....

benalvino: when adam sinned what happened?
you are getting there... better than your first definition but you are progressing...

being Godlike means satan should start deceiving people abi? kill fornicate etc that is Godlike to you abi?
thank you for saying Divine comes from God... there is not a single thing in God that is bad... Love and truth is what God is...

Isn't satan a spirit just as God is??.....

Isn't satan supernatural??....

Those 2 defines what divine means.....


And I have asked you....where did satan come from even though he has turned out bad??.......

Na you create satan??....

benalvino: Satan is the Opposite... are you saying it is God that is giving him the privilege to destroy humans? are you saying God gave him his divine qualities to Destroy?

The inherent powers satan possesses/ has where did he get it from??.......

The spirit that satan is who made him so??...

Answer my bro...answer.......

benalvino: when you are filled with God's spirit you are divine my brother... there is no 2 ways about that... that is why your body is the temple of God. dont even argue this.

Your definition of the word divine is so slim that is why you are playing ignorant here.......

At least you have come to an agreement that humans can be divine.....

benalvino: being in the image of God doesn't make us divine abeg you... it doesn't make us holy... it doesn't make us God... Blame adam for that... in fact blame Satan for that cause sin started in Heaven i Guess.

Being in the image of God sure makes us divine(Godlike).....

That is why God himself tole mortals ""Ye are God(s)......

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benalvino: man lost everything after adam sinned.

no they deceive your self...

Again if we are divine we should be promised to be divine that fact still stands.

We would attain a full share in the divine nature when we are made perfect...especially for those who would live in heaven.......

And like I said even here on earth we are define by virtue of the fact that we are filled with Gods spirit......

We are holy....

@benalvino....when I say satan is divine I mean he is a spirit being,powerful,supernatural.........

Abeg no go tell person say I say satan na good person o....

I take God beg you o.....

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Besides you have only concentrated on satan and abandoned the holy angels in heaven who are divine.....

benalvino: we dont have divine powers oooo... look up divine you will know that it has to do with the supreme being... that is where it is from... divine is not in you it come from God.

you should be honest and talk to your guy but of you are of same faith... i know your doctrine very much and no where or am not aware that Jw teaches Satan is divine.. ijawkid is just trying not to agree with our point.

he doesnt have to agree everything just for him to be honest is ok.

Oboy how do you think the apostles and the prophets of old could raise the dead,prophesy future events,speak in tongues,heal the sick if the didn't have divine powers??....

Like you said divine is from God....so that makes us divine because we all stem from GOD.....

Na lie??......

Even message can be divine.......

The scriptures are divine.....

The church is divine......

The holy angels are divine.....

Remember when you talked about holiness??.....

We are even holy.......

Displaying Godlike qualities in different levels.......

Thank you....

benalvino: See you self o... ignore the fact that Jesus is a savior... try well well...
fact is I can agree on some of your points but you will never agree with me even if i tell you red is red... you will say with the other color it is not red.

and yes you equate Moses to Jesus... you make it look like Jesus is like every other saviors god send.
when the bible speaks of savior it is talking about Jesus... it is talking about the father... without Jesus the father cant save men... this is the team they are... even the Holy spirit too. this na the point you no wan understand. they have been a team from eternity will mankind is saved.

So whether father be supreme savior or not... Him and Jesus are the savior. period... without Jesus mankind cant be saved.

Wasn't moses a saviour??...

Please answer......

I see you have real issues with titles......

You had better change.....

Was moses a saviour??.......

And I no dey equate moses to Jesus......

I am speaking from the Fathers perspective.......

Can't you just see it??...

benalvino: If we are divine why are we promised that?
Why do you think the devil is divine?
do you know when man lust his divinity... its when Adam sinned and is why Christ died for us so we can get the divine qualities...

Wasn't adam divine??....

Aren't we all godlike??...

Let me give you the simplest definition of divine from the scriptures stand point....

It means GODLIKE.......

What ever that has stemmed from GOD the Father is divine.....

benalvino: is Satan divine?
if we are divine whats the point we are promised to partake in the divine nature of Christ?

you are the one who don't bible meaning of stuffs...
if you know the meaning then you will realize that since we are divine we shouldn't be promise to be divine if we escape the temptation of the devil...

Partaking in the divine nature does not negate the fact that we are divine already.....

What do you think spirit filled Christians are??.......un-divine??......

Do you know that being filled with Gods spirit makes on divine??.....

Exhibiting the fruitages of Gods spirit makes on divine....

benalvino: divinity comes from God... Satan is not divine... if we have it we why do we need to partake in it. that is what you don't know...

I repeat Divine comes from God alone... adam lost it when he sinned... you better open your eyes.

And where do you think satan comes from??...did he create himself??......didn't satan stem from God??......

And mind you The Father wasn't dreaming when he used his own mouth to declare mortals as men.....

Adams death never stopped mortals from displaying Godly qualities.....

We are God-like..made in his image and we are also the glory of God....

benalvino: like he is trying to say Jesus is not our savior because God sent him... In fact Jesus is just like every other police men and firefighters that free people from the twin towers... thats what he is saying o.

what he will always say is who sent him. lol the bible says he is our savior... he will say who is the supreme savior... like say the bible identify the father like that... but anyway if he says the father is the supreme savior i dont argue with him but the point is that Jesus is our savior and the father is our savior... yet there is one savior Jesus christ and one savior the father... just like the bible teaches.

The bolded shows you are learning....

And mind you I have never said that Jesus is on the same plane with the other saviours God had raised up in the past to redeem his people.....Jesus ofcourse is greater than those other saviours...

My point :::::::

The Father sent them all....so irrespective of there assignments the Father remains the one saviour.......

If you want to trumpet Jesus' job which he was sent to do,I would equally yap about the other saviours who also did jobs for the Father...and so we would have thousands of saviour alongside God.....

If we want to go with your argument we would have argued about Gods right as the one saviour since moses and the rest were saviours......

All I see is you trying to be fixated on the title SAVIOUR and nothing more.........

Your bolded answer is enough for me to go to sleep smiling...

deSika: my dear, am not arguing with you. Am just showing you the implication of saying that the persons to whom "let us make man" was addressed to are not the one God.

The implication is that The speaker was inviting non one Gods to join in creation. That means that
1. the speaker cannot claim to be the only creator of the universe as its obvious he invited other non one Gods

Your problem is with the invitation and not the fact that this person who was invited by the Father was God the Fathers vendor........

And the speaker stands to remain the one creator because the person he is inviting was his first creation..........

deSika: 2. Next time when you are asked who created the world, pls say the one God and some other non God did. And then add: the one God is not the only being that has the ability to create humans

I would say the Father created the world...


But he did it through his son Jesus Christ(Gods vendor).....

Finito!!!!....

deSika: [question for you to ponder on: why is it necessary for you to say that it was The one God that created the world. When you are asked who created the earth]

Isn't is creation we are talking about??......

Earth and world all mean d same thing in this discussion.....

deSika: pls continue, tell me more things that the one God can do that we humans can do. Just because you want to argue. Pls take note of the word exclusive ability to create. why is it necessary for you to say that it was The one God that created the world. When you are asked who created the earth. Why is it that one who is identified as a cocreator is not the one God. Pls ask Ijawkid and co

And I thought I had asked you earlier who has the exclusive right to forgive sins??.....

Haven't I ??........

When one is asked who forgives sins what would be your answer??....

Please ....

benalvino: Wow... am amazed... before i tell you what divine is...
Tell me... if we are divine why are we promise to be divine in Christ? if we are divine why is our body the temple of God?
Why is the Holy spirit wasting his time to be in us?

It is the holy spirit in us coupled with the fact that we are already made in Gods image that makes us divine....do you know that been annointed alone makes one divine??...

benalvino: Na wa to you o...
i done tell you to no they use dictionary study bible lol. see how you they dribble your self?

Oboy even the scriptures agree with the dictionary definition of divine........

Abi no be english u dey read for ya bible??.....

It amazes me to see that you deny that the angels are divine....

You are deluded my brother...

benalvino: he no heavy you for mouth to say satan share same divine qualities with God... when we know satan is the opposite of God...

how can something that is so bad the baddest bad be divine? lol

Then u have nt understood me......

Satan is bad..correct...how does that stop him from being divine??.....

Your problem is that you define a word in one way that suits u and not open to all definitions of a word.......

Isn't satan supernatural...??isn't he a spirit??.....

I bet you don't knw d meaning of divine....

benalvino: we all know that Jesus created everything in heaven both visible and invisible... power thrones everything that came into existence... not a single thing came into existence... so the thing is that he should tell us whether Jesus create him self... make una argue this one for one corner.

I hope you knw say for your won thread you run leave the definition you give as to why Jesus is the beginning of Gods creation??....

Even when hard fact dey say Jesus get beginning you turn ya eye go another corner.....

deSika: dont go beyond the scripture, friend. Dont say what you dont know. IF YOU cant show where Jesus was created, then dont say it. If you cant show where Jesus was given ability to create, then dont say it. You would be committing heresy

Kindly show us where it is said angels were created...

Just a verse would do.....

Please......

benalvino: please what does divine means?

now you want to define divine like you wanted to do with worship...

soon you go define the word Yahweh.

i asking you question you wont answer it... you they ask me what divine means...
is satan divine?
is the holy spirit in the idols? are they not like God again?
why do you change your mind?
you must answer this questions o.

See the meanings of divine....


Divine::: all-powerful, almighty, ambrosial, angelic, anointed, beatific, beautiful, blissful, celestial, consecrated, deific, deistic, eternal, exalted, excellent, glorious, godly, hallowed, heavenly, holy, immaculate, magnificent, marvelous, mystical, omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient, rapturous, religious, sacramental, sacred, sacrosanct, sanctified, spiritual, splendid, superhuman, superlative, supernatural, supreme, theistic, transcendent, transcendental, transmundane, unearthly, wonderful



You can make your choice and tell me wether man,angel,satan. Are not divine....

hisblud: IjawKid

Have not found out where i got that translation from, guess you need to dump google then and use one of the metasearch engines to locate that translation lol.

As you search let me post one more for you...
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Ok this your new rendering fixes just about anywhere Lord is mentioned as YHWH....

Please the part on blue says this YHWH has a Father.......

Has that not totally debunked your running around.......

Is YHWH suppose to have a Father at all??.....

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Mr anony: This just shows your ignorance of God's nature

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Tell me my maths doesn't fit your pseudo knowledge of who the one God is??.......

Mr anony: First question you need to answer: Do you believe that God is omniscient? Yes or no.

The reason I'm asking the above is because if yes then we can proceed, if no then you would have no basis to argue about what the Son didn't know.


P/s: I am sure frosbel is happy to have his thread derailed because it allows him to escape without answering the questions posed to him.

Your comment is off the hook my bro...

You have already refuted God as one God......

You just refuted God as not monadic...

Your teachn is what the scriptures describes as philosophies of men.......


And please did the holy spirit know the day and hour at that point Jesus was playing ignorant??.......

Bidam: But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.

My brother what you are supporting is mere philosophy and has nothing to do with Gods spirit. Revealing truths.........


This is absolute philosophy of men....

If you can't see it then steven wonder is way better than you...

Oh and may I also engage in philosophy and mathematics with my deluded brothers........

1 God splits himself into 3......

One third of this one God comes to earth(becomes flesh),two third stays back in heaven....meaning once upon a time God was no longer a complete GOD but one third/Two third......then I wonder who everybody,including this proposed one third of God was worshipping.....they were all worshipping an incomplete God(two third if not one third of God)

So one wonders how even a one third of this God would have exclusive knowledge that another one third does not even know about .......

Or why should any of them even know more than the other at any given point in time when they are not complete........neither of these divided parts of GOD should have complete knowledge while the other remains ignorant....never!!!!....

And the funny part is the last one third of this GOD was not even mentioned as to wether he knows about this secret or not.........

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This is what the trinity can do to sane people............

hisblud: Is it a sign of been cornered ? ? ?? easy ko easy Jesus Is God!!!!

Jesus is which God??.......


Your God or whose God??...

frosbel: But 3 persons is 1 person, no ?

Thay have all gone mad.....

3 persons....and these persons each are God,but they run back to say they are one God.......

Delusion at its peak....

Mr anony: Lol, insults are the first sign of irrationality you know. Go back home and think carefully about the scripture you claim to believe.

Oboy nothing dey to think about...if this is how you guys run around the truth with philosophies of men then you are all in trouble.......

John 17:4-5
4 I y glorified you on earth,
z having accomplished the work that you gave
me to do. 5 And now, Father, a glorify me in
your own presence with the glory b that I
had with you c before the world existed


This same Jesus who knew that he had something with the Father(he was in flesh when he made this statement up there) is the same Jesus you guys are claiming was ignorant of an information which only the Father knew because he was in flesh,

How are we to even trust Jesus' words at all if his being in flesh impaired his reasoning and the things he said..........

And may I ask for the last time...

Jesus knew the angels didn't know the day and hour(I wonder how he even knew that since he was flesh),,he knew he himself didn't know(which you guys are running away from),he said only the Father knows.....where is the supposed 3rd person of the Godhead or trinity in this all important scene??.......did the holy spirit know or did not know or did Jesus miss one person in the Godhead and in heaven as to this important information??.......




Oya please beg anony or maybe you can use some plato philosophy to run around this one.....

Rubbish!!!!....

Mr anony: You know what, we have had this same discussion over and over and over again on this forum and today I don't have the time to go into another endless fruitless wild goose chase with you. I'll return to waiting for frosbel to respond to me. That's my main interest in this thread.

You can keep your garbage to yourself......

A dogs vomit is worth paying attention to than to your twisted and satanic philosophy which you spew here........

Godhead(accomodating 3 persons) and trinity my foot.......

Meanwhile deepsight is waiting for you......

hisblud: CLASSICAL answer WOW! i love the bolded response... you see now am learning how Jesus Christ will not know when the Father will restore all things to israel... ijawkid you seee, you are learning ko...God bless you all Trinitarians

You are just plain foolish..........

So you look at what anony wrote and run around happy......

Anony just gave a philosophical comment which has no bible backing.....

And you are the fool who just said some few comments ago that this Jesus is YHWH.....

Aren't you a confused mumu??......

Jesus simply stated.....I don't know......anony and co says no he knows,its just that being in flesh made him suffer from amnesia and could no longer know what he knew before he came down to the earth...

I spit on this thread......

Tufiakwa!!!!........

Bidam: The bolded blew my mind,what a revelation !!!! God bless you abundantly sir!

Na philosophy your oga just write for there o if your brain no know...

Anony just declared that God is not one GOD.....

Clap for yourself and anony......

It is obvious I'm discussing with philosophers and not bible students.....

Mr anony: Lol, this is very simple.
1. Can God humble Himself? Yes He can. Why?
1a. If He can't humble Himself then He is demanding from man something that is beyond His ability and therefore cannot be God.
1b. If He can humble Himself, then He can indeed take upon Himself the form of a man and to do that He'll have to let go of some of His God privileges.

Please can you list out the God priviledges that this GOD of yours abandoned in heaven??........

If I can remember well his knowledge was not amongst the list of things my bro.....

This same Jesus had the ability to read the minds of people......

Jesus remained the Jesus he was....the only change was that he wasn't a spirit but was flesh and blood......

Jesus was well aware of who he was and where he came from and so had his memory and his knowledge of what ever he knew before descending intact............

Mr anony: 2. Does God have infinite love? Yes He does. How?
2a. If God is monadic in nature, then before creation, there was no other person to love because love can only exist in a relationship between persons. It would only be possible for God to love after creation and hence God would have to learn to love and therefore cannot be said to be omniscient.
2b. If God is Trinity, then Love can easily exist eternally in the Godhead i.e. God is Love

Now this is your theory bro.......

Lmao.....anony the philosopher.......na ya type them propound trinity.......

Now for your info God created this Jesus we are talking about and loved him.......

And what do you understand by Godhead....don't tell me you are that cheap to be talking about Godhead as if it is a 3 way in manifold that accomodates 3 persons......

Mr anony: Now if he second Person of the Trinity (the Son) gives up His God privileges and takes the form of flesh, it is perfectly easy to see how He (Christ) won't know what the Father knows while He remains in the flesh. However this doesn't contradict the fact that God knows all things.

And this is your philosophy.........

No biblical basis for the shit you just wrote........


Kindly open just a verse that says there is trinity and also a second person of the trinity??......

Can you see your whole life has been basterdized with human philosophies.....

And may I put it to you that the Father nor the son nor who ever you choose to add does not belong to any Godhead......

It is your head that is telling you this and not the scriptures.....

Chei...........

And the one God remains the Father alone and not a combo of 2 other persons....

Mr anony: The problem is that you conceive the Trinity as 3 Gods rather than 3 Persons of one God. Until you can understand that, you will find the scripture difficult. In fact it is impossible for salvation by grace through faith to happen if God is monadic in nature. The sacrifice of the life of a mere man simply cannot atone for sin

I can't undertand thrash....

All you wrote is arrant thrash.......

If you believe the persons making up your proposed Godhead are distinct persons and each of them God,then you have no choice but agree that you are enforcing 3 Gods on christianity........


No philosophy can drag you out of this mess you are in........

And talking about who could have reDeemed us from sin.....a perfect life was needed to balance that of adam.......and Jesus who is Gods firstborn was sent and not God himself coming down.......


If God came down we would die ehhh......

No one has seen God at anytime.....

shdemidemi: You are gradually becoming a nuisance. They give you reasons why you are wrong, you don't even think about it, you treat responses to your ignorance with disdain, you will then come up with a fresh argument. When they answer your fresh argument , you rush back to the initial one.

In the book of acts1 they asked Christ 6 So when they were assembled, they asked Him, Lord, is this the time when You will reestablish the kingdom and restore it to Israel?

The question was a legitimate question but Christ had other plans before that could happen which is the gospel of grace for the entire world to get saved.

Christ did not say no, it won't happen. He said to them, It is not for you to become acquainted with and know what time brings [the things and events of time and their definite periods] or fixed [c]years and seasons (their critical niche in time), which the Father has appointed (fixed and reserved) by His own choice and authority and personal power[/

Jesus indeed knew who had all the authority and who had exclusive knowledge of fixed dates and times,which Jesus himself did not know...........


Now may I take you back to mark 13:32


New International Version
(©2011)
"But about that day or hour no one
knows, not even the angels in
heaven, nor the Son, but only the
Father.

New Living Translation (©2007)
"However, no one knows the day or
hour when these things will happen,
not even the angels in heaven or
the Son himself. Only the Father
knows.

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E be like you wan take us play. Abi......

See Jesus declaring absolute ignorance of an information that only one person in the whole universe knows/knew......


You guys are a very big joke....

shdemidemi: He is probably talking about the book of Acts where Peter was asking when Christ would return the kingdom back to Israel.

Abeg help anony answer why YHWH turn ignorant.......

because he abandoned his God priviledges......

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Arrant rubbish..!!!!!

shdemidemi: I gave up on this guy long time, the guy comes with an already made up mind set that is not ready to learn. Who ever tries to share the word with him is only wasting time. I am sure the fellow came in through his parent to the religion, if not he would not accept who he calls the father all together.

Ahhh!!!!....

And I believe you came here to learn ..right??....

What have I got to learn from polytheists??.......

I mean you guys are freaking sick........

What have I to learn from people who can confidently say our heavenly YHWH the Father can die....

Weren't you the adamant fellow who was trying to convince your proud self that YHWH lied when he said that no one can see Him and yet live.....you denied Jesus' own words that no man hath seen God anytime.....

And you come out here telling me I have an already made mind set.......

Rubbish!!!!......

hisblud: fail. The question is, is that verse talking about Jesus, God or angel? Did i ask of solomon? Who?

E be like you no ready for better discussion.......

Isn't the verse an excerpt from psalms 45:6-7??.......


the verse is applying to Jesus but did apply to an earlier annointed king of God .......

Are u satisfied??.....