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 Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:43pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: again you dodged my question, i have somewhere to go to, so plls do me the honour answer me before i leave.Oga open a scripture that says we have but one GOD,the Father ,Son and holy spirit...... If only a verse like that existed we wouldn't be arguing here..... Open a verse that says the one GOD to us is not the Father alone,but a combination of 2 other persons.... Genesis won't help you ooooo..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:41pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: na bibe i quote i did not give my opinion. i only emphasised on what the bible says.My problem is connect your cheap explanation of what you see in acts to the Fact that the only one GOD to us is the Father alone....... The Father is the source of the holy spirit....so going against his spirit is going against the owner of that spirit...... Paul could have seized the opportunity he had to lay down the trinity creed even before the council of nicea did it..... Paul could have said but to us there is but one GOD ,the Father ,son and holy spirit..... Paul knew who the one God to Jesus and all of us is.....paul knew only the Father is the one God...... No twists and turns can back you up with your 3 Gods equation |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:37pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
Thoniameek: You guys are all saying thesame thing, untill you realized that..... There's one thing God(YHWH) exalts above himself which is his 'Word' isaiah, or so, told me so, and john told me that jesus is his word made flesh( so is everything, living and non-living) then the bible has a meaning in calling 'us' god(s) and since God exalted christ above 'us' all(minor gods) I think whoever calls christ God isn't committing an offence at all.... I don't know if that made any sense?My dear we are not all saying the same thing ooo....... I want them to come to terms with the glaring truth that in amidst all those called God(s),there is but one GOD the Father to Christians.....and that person is the Father alone and not a mixture of 2 other persons alloyed to the Father.... Ask them if they agree oooo...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:34pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: are you seeing what you are doing. you are obviously dodging the question.But you know the answer na...... They didn't reject the offer..... Infact they coroperated with the one doing the invitation... Now I ask you ;;; Who did the invitation??.... Is the one inviting the same with the ones beeen invited??...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:29pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: Gods word is God, his spirit is God. i dont know why someone would be arguing with thatIs Gods word the Father??..... Is Gods spirit the Father??... Please read 1 corinthians 8:6 New International Version (©2011) yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. Please can you see who the one GOD is??...... It is not a combination of 3 persons....it is just one person the Father.... Ona don tire me ooo....... ____________________________ New International Version (©2011) Jesus said, "Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" ____________________________ Please desika do you see the one GOD standing out in these words of the glorified Jesus??..... The Father is the one God and my God,and Jesus' God and the GOD of the angels....... It is obvious you guys cant accept who the one God is..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:22pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
Thoniameek: Na wa o.... Na only one God we get o( drop the trinity ish) it isn't mentioned in the bible for crying out loud!!! If i pray mentioning the holy spirit or Jesus christ, i know am refering to God Almighty(YHWH) because they're his actions and having a will of their own( just like human, we have a will of own too, just like satan) but his 'actions' are working together to his will... It all boils down to us having one God, only one God! Abeg na... Make una agree na.. Abeg! Say na one God we get, ABEG!!! *crying*My dear your people are struggling with who there God is.... They are not with Jesus and the apostles on this who recognized the one God as the Father .... Your colleagues have 3 people as there God.... I just have one person as my GOD....the Father.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:19pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: your answer is staring at you here. you say i should show you from sciptures who my God is. Peter says if am lieing to the Holyspirit am lieing to God. If am worshipping holyspirit am worshipping God, if am calling on the holyspirit am calling on God, if am praying to the holyspirit am praying to God, if am sinning against the holyspirit am sinning against God.Cheiii...... Please reconcile your statement with 1 corinthians 8:6... Are you sure you are among the US that has just one GOD,the Father??. Or you are just a desperate polytheist..... Oboy it is obvious you are not on the side of Jesus who has one GOD the Father.. It is obvious you guys are not christians..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 12:17pm On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: by the way when God said let us reason, he did not go oon to say and Good reasoned. so stop confusing yourself and answer my question.Why did God even need anybody to reason with him in the first place...??... The point here is God who is the supreme ruler over all is inviting persons to do something with him even when he is over all.... And I have asked::..who offered the invitation??.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:49am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Are you sure... It says all the gods of the people are idols... Except the Lord who made the heavens... Why should God compare him self to woods other than person?God called men God(s)...the scriptures call angels "EL"...is God a polytheist??.... You are just confusing yourself to feel good..... You have agreed that your God(s) are 3 persons,the Father,son and holyspirit and not 1 person..... I can't keep arguing with a polytheist like you...... I declare again... My GOD is the Father alone..... And may I leave you to wallow in your polytheism...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:32am On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: is jesus your mighty godHe is to be called mighty GOD....a powerful ruler, appointed king of Gods kingdom.... He is not my GOD...... Isaiah didn't pen those words and say ""he would be called my mighty GOD""... Isaiah had his senses intact....he knew who was his God...... I repeat.....Jesus is not my God....the Father alone is.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:30am On Jun 28, 2013 |
truthislight: Thats ^ a reference to statues that are used in the worship of Demons and satan.He thinks satan and all the angels in heaven are carved images or moulded structures......... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:28am On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: why does peter say if you are lieing to holyspirit you are lieing to God.When God said let us reason...... Did the person(s) he was talking refuse to engage in the reasoning??... And was the person(God) who made the statement "let us" the same as the persons he was addressing??.... Remember I want you to scripturally tell me who your one GOD is... So far so Good you are not on the side of the Jews and with the apostles who know that the one GOD to us is the Father alone...... Are you among the US mentioned in 1 corinthians 8:6...?? Are you??..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:20am On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: why does God say let us make and then say i made. Did the persons he was talking to refuse to join him in creationWho was this GOD that made the statement ""let us""??... It is obvious the one saying "let us" isn't the same as the person(s) he was addressing ..... Who made the statement "let us"??.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:14am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Paul doesn't believe in idols... Like I have always said... You believe in the idol U R making Jesus to be so U believe in 2 gods.When people are shocked they exlaim my GOD!!!!!!!..........have you not made such exclamations before in front of people??.... Are the people your GOD??.... And please when paul penned down 2 corinthians 4:4 he wasn't calling satan an idol....he called him the GOD... And like I pointed out earlier,God pronoucing men as God(s) does not make man the GOD of the Father....... God is not a polytheist....... I recognize the Father as my God and no other person..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:11am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Benalvino...we are also holy o....are we the one God??... 1 corinthians 3:17 New Living Translation (©2007) God will destroy anyone who destroys this temple. For God's temple is holy, and you are that temple. 1 corinthians 6:2 NET Bible (©2006) Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is to be judged by you, are you not competent to settle trivial suits? Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010) Or do you not know that the Saints shall judge the universe? And if the universe is judged by you, are you not worthy to judge small disputes? We are called holy too...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 11:00am On Jun 28, 2013 |
Thoniameek: Yep! I fully agree with you bro, there'e but only one God, and you see, he blesses whoever he chooses to bless and exalts whoever he chooses to.... My point, God himself exalted Jesus christ, and put him first(christ) before himself and said whoever wants to come to him has to go through jesus first, and since jesus was once on earth representing God in human form and then died and resurrected, Jesus left the Holy spirit(his spirit) with us to comfort us... Have you ever tried to imagine how great the God we serve? So you think you can just go straight to him in confront( how unworthy). The patriach did in some way and it wasn't really always a good turn out. Jesus is like a gateway to God that subdues his wrath. So if you feel we worship Jesus(the trinity) we do because our heavenly father asked us to( of course He did)... These isn't even worth it! The so called trinity wasn't even mentioned in the bible( why make it a bone of contention) lets talk on better things like how to depopulate the kingdom of satan not populate it with al these crap.please ask your freinds who there God is... They are mentioning 3 people as there God...... I am not against we going through Jesus to get to the one God the Father.... What I am here arguing is someone telling me that I am a polytheist because I know and recognize that there are other Gods who aren't my GOD....... Tell your freinds that the one GOD to us is the Father alone....... Tell your polytheist friends....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:58am On Jun 28, 2013 |
When would benalvino grasp the point that Jesus is not my GOD??....... Benalvino do you understand the bolded??......... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:55am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Now Jesus is not a god again or an angel... He is just the Christ lol...We are also holy my bro..stop saying things you have no full knowledge of.....didn't you hear we should be holy just as God is holy.....weren't the apostles refered to as saints or holy as the case may be?? My problem here is who the one GOD is...and I'm sticking to the scriptures......the one GOD to me is the Father alone......... I can call Jesus a God,God,but not my God..... Jesus is not my God oooo.... Oh dear nairalanders,Jesus CHrist is not my GOD.....my GOD is the Father alone..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:45am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: So that verse have to do with Thomas calling Jesus his God?And Jesus corrected what ever thomas had in mind in john 20:17........ Jesus made it known to them who there God is...... Didn't he??...... Besides I said thomas was struck with awe and exclaimed aloud....... The same exact thing we do today........ And please isaiah did not imagine 2 one God or 2 true God..... You still have a problem with the title God....... I might say again that paul identified another GOD in 2 corinthians 4:4 and then call Paul a polytheist.... Thank you!!!.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:43am On Jun 28, 2013 |
deSika: pls am waiting for your acts 5:3,4Chei.......  .....Your God is 3 persons and not one my brother...... Who is the polytheist here??.... Me or you??..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:36am On Jun 28, 2013 |
truthislight: that ^ is not an answer.He doesn't know who is God is... He is so confused....... He mentioned 3 seperate individuals as his God and struggling to merge them as one GOD... Oya open a scripture to show what he expressed as his God,he is running around like lionel messi....... Today we go find out who be polytheist..... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:34am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: What do you understand by the word idol? If you worship light it becomes and idol... You worship radio frequency it becomes an idol. If you call anything that is not God god that thing is idol.God called men God(s)..... Is God a polytheist or does God worship man since he pronounced them God(s)??... You seem to be holding on to nothing at this point....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:26am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: I ask U a simple question... Does Thomas have 2 gods?I just answered your question with john 20:17........ And I am asking you to provide just a clear verse to support your herectic stance...... The scriptures says to us there is but one GOD the Father...... You are saying to you there is but one God the Father,son and holy spirit......... Please just a scripture would suffice for the rubbish you spewed.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:13am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Do you believe in Jesus or not? Believing in another god aside the One God makes you polytheists... We are not even talking about worship. But when we go to worship then idolatry will start.I believe in Jesus as the messiah and appointed king of Gods kingdom and not as my GOD..... And you believe in 3 Gods.... The Father,son and holy spirit..... I believe in the Father alone as my God....you believe in 3 seperate individuals as your GOD.... Who is the polytheist here??....  1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:11am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Evasive question... The one looking at you is... Does Thomas have 2 gods?I can't believe the definition of your one God can't be shown from any scripture... You are the evasive bobo here.... Kindly show nairalanders from the scriptures that the one GOD is the Father,son and holy spirit mixed together... If you can't you should leave this thread in shame....... I opened a verse showing the one God is the Father alone... Please open your own..... I dey wait...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:09am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: There is one God which is the father son and holyspirit...It is seen that thomas was awe struck and exclaimed my GOD and my LORD........... It just like when you go toilet or when woman dey born or when something extra ordinary haPpens ,people shout my GOD and my LORd in amazement... E no mean say your shit for toilet,the doctors in the hospital or who ever is around has now become the God of those individuals.... Thomas still could here Jesus unequivocally say at john 20:17.... New Living Translation (©2007) "Don't cling to me," Jesus said, "for I haven't yet ascended to the Father. But go find my brothers and tell them, 'I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.'" I hope you can now understand who our GOD should be??.... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 10:03am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: There is one God which is the father son and holyspirit...Please if there is just on scripture to support the bolded I would appreciate it...... No where in the bible,I repeat no where in the bible says the above... Now you would know why I call you guys polytheists and herectic fellows..... Please can we see a scripture where it is said there is but one GOD,the Father ,son and holy spirit... Please.......if you show me a verse like that I go give u my money.... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 9:52am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Lol... You funny o... How did you come about that? Bible says God will destroy any God that did not form the earth...And we have asked do we worship Jesus as our GOD??.... Is Jesus my GOD??... Oboy e be like to argue dey hungry you well well...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 9:50am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: You should have started from chapter 5... 6 says who being in the very nature of GODJesus was a spirit person in heaven.....he needed to be flesh and blood....and so had to not be a spirit on earth....... And now this person who took up human form has now been exalted,was given a name,and all persons are subject to him,all to the glory of the one GOD the Father whom you have been shamefully running away from.... You should be ashamed of yourself to not recognize the one GOD as the Father alone.... You are the polytheist here....... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 9:45am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: Why will I call the angels God? Are you saying if I see wood person cave I will call it god?I agree Jesus was worshipped just as david was.....the sense of worship is what is in question here...... Do the persons who worshipped david and Jesus see david and Jesus as there GOD??....... Didn't the elders know that the one sitted on the throne(GOD) is different from the Lamb??......... Isn't it clear that the elders know Jesus is not there GOD??........ And I have told you a million times that the angels are refered to as God(s) by virtue of there nature and not because poeple are worshipping them as there GOD??...... |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 9:42am On Jun 28, 2013 |
benalvino: answered this long ago... When I said ......So your God is the Father,son and holy spirit..abi??....... Polytheist how u dey na??...... ...... 1 Like |
| Christianity Etc › Re: Polytheists Vs Trinity by ijawkid(m): 9:29am On Jun 28, 2013 |
@benalvino see this scripture and know that the angels recognize who there God is and they can differentiate there GOD from Jesus Christ the Lamb,who is Gods annointed king... Revelation 7:9-12 English Standard Version (ESV) A Great Multitude from Every Nation 9 After this I looked, and behold, a great multitude that no one could number, from every nation, from all tribes and peoples and languages, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed in white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 And all the angels were standing around the throne and around the elders and the four living creatures, and they fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying, “Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom and thanksgiving and honor and power and might be to our God forever and ever! Amen.” The angels know that the lamb is not there God.......... They know!!!!!!.... Unlike you and your ilks they are 1000 percent aware of who the one GOd and who there GOD is........... 1 Like |
