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pearldrops:
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how l scream,it was fun at first,he would call when am having sex and ask me to leave the phone on he wants to hear me scream it turns him off and how many guys am having it with at that moment,he even went as far as knowing my sexuallity.

I'm not been judgemental but me thinks this is an unusual relationship ...

donnie:
Allonym,

Why do you think you are in position to say who is a true Can Christain and who is not?

ROFL kind of like pot calling the kettle black

@@donnie
I'm sorry but just had to say something here please go and check some of your previous postings in other topics on this forum - https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-2551.32.html

and i quote some of your posts

"You do not know God's will just because He created you. Some were created, others were born of Him."

"Because we know His will. We His children are partners together with Him"

You seem to think You are in a position to say who is a true christain

davidylan:
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You claim only a minority will abuse the process! you yourself know it is not true. let us be realistic, only a few will ever repay those loans if any at all. if this is untrue then ask why nigerian banks are very stringent with loan conditions (astronomical interest rates) and hardly give loans except to established corporate individuals? will the students involved get jobs or not? will they be trusted to remain in nigeria where they can be monitored?
Assume that only 20% of 200000 students on loans (#100000 for 5yrs) default in paying their loans, that adds up to a loss of #4bn to bad debts every 5 years (assuming only 200,000 students obtain loans every 5yrs). Do you think our economy is strong enough to absorb such a huge loss? ask the banks!

No one expects the private sector to be involved, not at this stage anyway.

It all boils down to how the government sets it up, they could set it up in a 'reverse' way to the current NYSC scheme, kind of like a 'serve your country first before you get a loan', where you join the scheme, work in a certain part of the country for 2 to 3 years and then qualify for a scholarship/loan to study. I think the US army does something along similar lines.

The money would be distributed through the colleges or as vouchers so no actual money exchanges hands. At the end of study they can continue to work within the scheme until they finish paying off the loan.

davidylan:
2. regarding unemployment or not, i am not propounding any new theory! face facts please, who are the educated plumbers and carpenters you ar refering to? will u take up carpentry after five years in the university? minus the medical, oil and banking sectors (the banking sector is laying of thousands of workers already), which other sectors are viable enough to absorb more than 100000 (mostly unemployable) graduates every yr.

you obviously did not understand my post, i said overhaul the educational system to produce educated bricklayers, carpenters, plumbers, mechanics etc, rather than producing graduates in religious studies and other courses that have no relevance to our economy. Do a search in google, you'll be surprised at the number of universities around the world that offer courses in these professions, but you would not find them in our universities.

My brother works as an Architect and his major problem is getting reliable and knowledgeable bricklayers, carpenters, plumbers etc who can read and understand building plans.

davidylan:
Not everyone goes to college in the US! ask the musicians, sportsmen and women, Bill Gates and co and they are making it! the difference is in the dynamics of the economy! u don't have to go to college to make it in life!

true, however at this point in our development we need educated citizens, its all about getting them into the right areas of our economy like the police for example, currently its mostly drop outs and educational dunces that end up in the police force. If you've had the misfortune of having to report a crime to the Nigerian police, you'll understand. These guys have no clue about the law and i'm not even talking about their penchant for 'egunje'.

davidylan:
<snip>diversity even in ideas make the world go round. however, the fact is some people do not shoot down ideas, they only debate and RATIONALISE them with regard to the situations around them.
Nigerians are nothing more than incurable optimists who sit down and "hope" things will get better by explaining away valid arguments in the name of patriotism.

My point has always been that there's nothing unusual about our situation, if a system or proposal is put in place with proper checks and balances it will work even in a chaotic place like Nigeria. Lagos state is currently using a computerised method of collecting tax revenue which people said will not work but has helped increase its monthly generated revenue from N600 million to N3.5billion https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-2043.0.html

Remember the words of Thomas Edison "If I find 10,000 ways something won't work, I haven't failed. I am not discouraged, because every wrong attempt discarded is often a step forward.... "

cool pics

its a Manta ray and its the largest of the stingrays http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manta_ray. I've seen stingrays in action at the Sydney Aquarium and they're pretty impressive creatures, they glide around in the water like a bird.

it's a shame this one was sold and not kept for research purposes as not too much is known about them

Manta Ray FAQ
http://www.elasmo-research.org/education/topics/lh_manta_faq.htm

gentleone:
<snip> wonder what it would taste like?

probably like chicken

Na wah o look all you these people o, me i just mentioned some romantic things that was done for me, I don't necessarily equate been romantic, with a woman buying me a gift..

@@mamba
you make me laugh, the normal duties of a woman abi so if your madam works (like most women do these days) you expect her to come home and do her 'normal duties'

@@chillin
Look you, infact some women will get offended and feel you don't need them if you don't let them do it.

ocho:
Good thing u cleared that up because i had the nails ready

I'm sure you did. On a serious note though Nigerian girls are romantic in their own way, sometimes its not the big gestures or gifts that are important but the little things like helping out with the laundry, tidying up your flat, cooking a superb meal for you after a hard day at work etc...

Reading all the posts on this thread i think Nigerian women are so 'lucky' they get so much from Nigerian men and on top of it all they will yap us and say most Nigerian men are no good 

before the women crucify me, it's a joke.... phew

goodguy:
It's greed that's worrying them. They want to keep all to themselves.

Bit of a blanket statement there my man

@@layi
there's nothing much you can do unless she sees it as an issue and wants to improve her English. If you really like her then you have to be prepared to accept her warts and all

goodguy:
I really don't think there are pastors that tell you that they need your money to get the Gospel out.

they are more subtle than that, they prefer to tell you 'you're robbing God if you don't pay your tithe' instead

nferyn:
Anyway, we're far from finding out the exact truth about the origins of HIV

completely agree with you nferyn. I just think there's more to this than we know about and thats why i mentioned in an earlier post about my doubts about HIV's origins.
If we were to use the Ebola virus as an example, we know they've found 3 different strains of it so far - Ebola Zaire, Ebola Sudan and Ebola Reston, even though the first two were found in Africa, the last one was found in the Philippines and it is very similar to the Zaire and Sudan strains but it did not kill the people who were exposed to it.

Its kind of sad the way people shoot down ideas and assume it won't work in Nigeria because its not organised blah blah blah.. and then they wonder why things remain the same in the country.

[quote author=hot-angel link=topic=3438.msg116943#msg116943 date=1133413140]But the thing is, if the gov decides to help people with money, the people won't pay back. Their's no social security number to track em down. Plus some people will just keep applying. Nigerians abuse opportunities.[/quote]This is a big assumption, some people will obviously abuse the system but many will not and they will benefit from it. Is it fair to deprive the needy ones just because a minority will abuse the system.

davidylan:
having almost every nigerian go to school will not increase jobs but increase unemployment. where are the jobs for the priviledged few that still afford to go to school?

thats an interesting theory, so are you suggesting that only a few Nigerians should go to school to reduce unemployment.
Don't you think it'll be better for everyone to go to school but overhaul the educational system and make it more adaptable to our needs so we can have educated bricklayers, carpenters, plumbers, mechanics etc.

Its not about sex alone. There are so many reasons people (not just Men but Women too  ) engage in extramarital affairs, there isn't any 'one size fits all' explanation to it.

I don't think having affairs when you're married is ok but in the Nigerian context so many people get married for the wrong reasons, some too early and some to someone they are not compatible with. Then you also have some naive girls who think they can snag a man by getting pregnant so the man has no choice but to get married (and you expect him to be faithful, yeah right!!!).

I just think we need to change our whole attitude to marriage, our society expects everyone to be married and that means that the whole marriage institution is not really seen in the context of sharing and spending your life with someone you love, but more like something you need to do to please your family and friends.

mamba:
it's the women that accept and agree to date them knowing they're married that are actually stupid.

Completely agree, Some women will know that a man is married and still go out with him, hoping he dumps his wife for her.

Skidoc:
As for me, I will choose the beautiful dull girl because I am very fond of beautiful girls and I believe I can train and teach her to become intelligent. On the other hand, there is no training or teaching or therapy that can make an ugly girl become beautiful.

If you say you will buy her all the make-up in the world, she will just look like a decorated baboon.

What if there's a genetic reason why she is dull, aren't you worried that you may end up with dull kids

lumzzy:
u can try me if u want. am different.

otokx:
you can try me? you will not be disappointed

Seems like all the 'good' ones are still in Nigeria

from the WHO (World Health organisation) website
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/avian_faqs/en/#poultry

Is it safe to eat poultry and poultry products?

Yes, though certain precautions should be followed in countries currently experiencing outbreaks. In areas free of the disease, poultry and poultry products can be prepared and consumed as usual (following good hygienic practices and proper cooking), with no fear of acquiring infection with the H5N1 virus.

In areas experiencing outbreaks, poultry and poultry products can also be safely consumed provided these items are properly cooked and properly handled during food preparation. The H5N1 virus is sensitive to heat. Normal temperatures used for cooking (70oC in all parts of the food) will kill the virus. Consumers need to be sure that all parts of the poultry are fully cooked (no “pink” parts) and that eggs, too, are properly cooked (no “runny” yolks).

Consumers should also be aware of the risk of cross-contamination. Juices from raw poultry and poultry products should never be allowed, during food preparation, to touch or mix with items eaten raw. When handling raw poultry or raw poultry products, persons involved in food preparation should wash their hands thoroughly and clean and disinfect surfaces in contact with the poultry products Soap and hot water are sufficient for this purpose.

In areas experiencing outbreaks in poultry, raw eggs should not be used in foods that will not be further heat-treated as, for example by cooking or baking.

Avian influenza is not transmitted through cooked food. To date, no evidence indicates that anyone has become infected following the consumption of properly cooked poultry or poultry products, even when these foods were contaminated with the H5N1 virus.

Avian influenza frequently asked questions
http://www.who.int/csr/disease/avian_influenza/avian_faqs/en/

Apparently his lawyers are still working on his case in London...

A Nigerian state governor who fled Britain dressed as a woman to escape money laundering charges was refused a claim for immunity in the high court yesterday (friday). But lawyers for Diepreye Alamieyeseigha were allowed to invite the House of Lords to reconsider the case.

rest of story
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,,1651282,00.html

all these stuff about paying 'tiithes' and getting "blessings" makes God seem like a 'Commodity trader' I don't buy it

I give what i can to charity http://www.plan-uk.org/, knowing that a child somewhere has access to water and good food is a feeling i wouldn't trade for anything....

If you got up this morning and you're in good health, you're already blessed.

Akolawole:
Can SEUN ban this topic IMMEDIATELY?
We know of many religious conflict in our country. We know Kano, Sokoto, Lagos, Ilorin,Plateu religious riot.
What is the difference between the writings in this forum and what that Lady(This Day Reporter) wrote.
All i know s nobody can fight for God, Religion or Prophets.
Seun, please ACT NOW.

Why I say bring it on, if you don't like the thread simply move on.. Its simple if you can't stand the heat stay out of the kitchen.
I don't really have any interest in this particular thread but i will fight tooth and nail to keep it here.

I have not responded as there's nothing to respond to, all i'm seeing is quotes from the bible been thrown around. If i wanted quotes from the Bible, i have one i can read and make my own interpretations myself if i chose to.

Time and time again people use selective quotes from the Bible to suit their own agenda.

Mate, i'm cracking up here ROFL

Please explain to me how Some were created, others were born of Him or are you implying that God discriminates. Aren't we all his children regardless of our faith..

Ajisafe where u dey now i'm sooo missing your input here 

http://ask.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/11/19/2226224
a response from slashdot.org
we could just cut nigeria off from the internet entirely, my isp's mail server would apprectiate that. everybody knows there is no such thing as an "honest nigerian", the whole country is in on the scam. how else do you explain the extremely large number emails i get from nigerians?


To be honest putting this topic on slashdot.org just opens Nigerians up to further ridicule as i doubt you'll get any meaningful suggestions there. Its so typical of the Americans on that site to ridicule others rather than sorting out their own problems.

When i checked my email today most of the dodgy emails i got about Penile Enlargement, Free Viagra Pills, Online Porn Access, Free IPOD Nano, Viruses, Phishing sites were from American sites.

The hypocrisy is sickening, I may hate 419 scammers but i hate the greedy fools who think they are dealing with some 'ignorant African' they can steal money from, even more

The bottomline is this, as long as the scams continue, Nigeria will be cut off from the internet 'mainstream'. The so called scam artist can continue to make money off the few gullible people around but eventually that will dry up completely. So what do they do next??

When people are hungry they will do anything to survive, the police and EFCC can raid cybercafes etc, all that will do is drive them underground. And if we think things are bad now, you wait till internet access becomes cheap enough for people to have access at home.

If we are going to redeem the image of Nigeria, we need to provide other alternatives to these people, I made a few suggestions here in this topic https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-3030.0.html#msg105262 and i'm sure a lot of people have other ideas.

@goodguy you're so funny, really enjoying your posts

The whole world will start spending a common currency... (This is already taking place gradually)

Please tell me what currency this is? is this the Euro, Dollar or the Chinese Yuan

@@nferyn
..we will compare them to man made mishaps in the past, normalising for populations size, so that we can look at their relative weight in a historical context

rofl that is so funny man

For those into the whole apocalypse thing, stumbled on this site http://www.abhota.info/end1.htm don't know who owns it/or their agenda but it makes for an interesting read...

goodguy:
All u've listed are just natural disasters. We're talking of various man-made mishaps that have befallen men. I'll advice you read the book of revelations. Though so many of these things happened in the past, we are now seeing more of it today. What does that tell us? - The end time is drawing near.

you want man-made mishaps that have befallen men, here's a list of wars started by men where thousands have perished over the past 1000 years -  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars

If you need more facts i'm willing to provide them  

I know God's will too as he created me and this is not what he told me 

coolstuff4real:
It's easy to believe that "the end of this age of grace is near." Indeed, the Bible refers to this age in which we're living as "the last days." The times described in II Timothy 3:1-5 certainly sound like Planet Earth circa the 1990's - "This know, also, that in the last days perilous times shall come, for men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God, having a form of godliness, but denying the power of it; from such turn away."

All the behaviours you mentioned has always been exhibited by mankind since the dawn of time. Even the Bible has ample evidence of this.

coolstuff4real:
One hardly needs to be a Bible scholar or student of prophecy to see these signs in our world today. Just pick up your daily newspaper or turn on the television news! The evidence is all around us.

The only reason why the evidence is all around us is that we have access to so much information because of the internet and 24 hour news stations. If something happens in the world today it is flashed around the world within minutes.

think of all the major disasters that have happened in the last 1000 years and what the people who lived during those times would have thought

Here's a brief list of such disasters (you can do a search on Google to get this info and more)

Athens, 430 B.C.: Typhus epidemic
Pompei, 79: Volcanic eruption
Antioch, Syria, 526: Earthquake (250,000 dead)
Costantinopole, 542: Bubonic plague
Beirut, Lebanon, 551: earthquake and tsunami (tens of thousands dead)
Japan, 1181: famine (100,000 dead)
Holland, 1228: sea flood (100,000 dead)
Chihli, China, 1290: Earthquake (100,000 dead)
Europe and Asia, 1346-52: Bubonic plague or "black death" (one third of the European population dead plus millions in Asia and North Africa for a total of 25 million)
Shensi, China, 1556: earthquake (800,000 dead)
Napoli, Italy, 1631: Mt Vesuvius erupts (3,000 dead)
Havana, 1648: Yellow fever epidemic
Sevilla, Spain, 1649: Plague (80,000 dead)
Turkey, 1668: earthquake (8,000 dead)
Hokkaido, 1730: Earthquake (140,000 dead)
Lisbon, 1755: earthquake and tsunami (30,000 dead)
Calcutta, 1737: Earthquake (300,000 dead)
Bengal, India, 1769: famine (10 million dead)
India, 1775: Tsunami (60,000 dead)
Northamerica, 1775-82: Smallpox (130,000 dead)
Iran, 1780: earthquake (200,000 dead)
Caribbeans, 1780: Hurricane (22,000 dead)
Philadelphia, 1793: Yellow fever epidemic (5,000 dead)
Sumbawa, Indonesia, 1815: Mt Tambora erupts (90,000 dead)
Japan, 1826: Tsunami (27,000 dead)
Cairo, 1831: Cholera epidemic, which spreads to London
London and Paris, 1832: Cholera epidemic (25,000 dead)
Ireland, 1845: famine (one million dead)
Mapoli, Italy, 1857: earthquake (11,000 dead)
India, 1864: Cyclone (70,000 dead)
France, 1870-71: Smallpox (500,000 dead)
....

And this are just the ones recorded....