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Christianity Etc › Re: I Do Not Believe in God by ijebuman(m): 11:36pm On Jan 02, 2006

goodguy:
You don't sound like one who believes in God. From your posts, it's either you're pretending not to believe or you actually do not believe.

please show me the post where i was either pretending to do anything. I just found your line of questioning interesting as i never said here i was a christain neither did i say i was an atheist

nicetohave:
I guess for information purpose, last week you might be a christian, this week your stand might have changed.................what is your stand now ijebuman?

My stand has always been the same i don't believe in religion simple

Christianity Etc › Re: I Do Not Believe in God by ijebuman(m): 11:22pm On Jan 02, 2006

goodguy:
Well, I don't know about that because I don't even speak in tongues.

Ijebuman, so you're an atheist too?

goodguy u don come again o grin

, you've asked me if i was a christain in a previous thread, now you're asking if i'm an atheist. Why do you want to know ?

Politics › Re: If Obj Stays: Who's Fault ? by ijebuman(m): 10:58pm On Jan 02, 2006

Akolawole:
@Chxta

We will NOT do like people of Ukraine.
What is the population of Ukraine ?
How many languages do they have?
How many Tribes make up Ukraine ?

Does it matter? the bottomline is that a popular revolution resulted in change, thats the point been made. There's nothing special about Nigeria, or are we not part of the human race ?

Akolawole:
We are not going to fight like we stupidly did during June 12 wahala or during religious riots in in Kano, afterall it is GOD that makes leaders.

And then we wonder why things never change in the country, our typical 'God dey, e go better' mentality is what keeps us where we are. You may think the 'june 12 wahala' was a waste but that was what got Obj there. The north saw the writing on the wall after june 12 and realised that they had to concede power to the south if they did not want to end up becoming a landlocked country.

Christianity Etc › Re: I Do Not Believe in God by ijebuman(m): 10:40pm On Jan 02, 2006

goodguy:
Never mind. Come to Nigeria first. You'll see wonders.

what i want to know is when nferyn becomes born again on his visit to Nigeria, when he 'speaks in tongues' what language will he speak huh

if he speaks in a Nigerian language i'll be truly convinced wink

Christianity Etc › Re: I Do Not Believe in God by ijebuman(m): 7:24pm On Jan 02, 2006

nferyn:
This would actually be a good thing. An instant solution to overpopulation. Layi, why don't you send one of these people over here. There are some people I'd like to be turned into ......

i'm assuming you meant other people turned into ... not you grin

Christianity Etc › Re: I Do Not Believe in God by ijebuman(m): 7:07pm On Jan 02, 2006

layi:
He is yet to see the miraculos happen in his eyes. Human turning to animal can not be explained in d realm of physics but it sure happens.

Layi!!! baba that one pass me o, humans turning to animals grin

please show us evidence of this ever happening
someone is watching too much nollywood wink

Computers › Re: How To Add Computer Animations To A Movie On DVD by ijebuman(m): 4:13pm On Jan 02, 2006

first off, you need to get a proper Video editing software, i use a product called Magix Movies on CD & DVD 4 http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0009WHTJ4/qid=1136207783/sr=8-8/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i8_xgl/026-1961999-6312401

Tutorial
http://site.magix.net/english-us/home/video/video-tutorials/getting-started-with-magix-movies-on-CD-dvd/introduction/?version=

With the software you can create DVD menus, chapters, intros etc, in short you can create professional looking DVD presentations easily.

You'll also need a DVD burner and a fairly high end PC.

What model is your JVC camcorder ? The one i have is a digital video camera and you can connect it to a PC via a USB cable or through firewire (which is a lot faster than USB). If you can't connect either way then you need a TV output card in your PC, this will allow you to connect your camera and then record to your PC's hard disk.

Once you have it on your hard disk (in MPEG or AVI format) you can then edit and modify it with any video editing software (or the one i mentioned earlier) and then copy it to DVD using a DVD burner.

you can get more information on this site http://www.videohelp.com/

Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by ijebuman(m): 3:38pm On Jan 01, 2006

Wouldn't it be nice if Nigerian churches were like this church in Texas that plans to give a free house to one of its members grin

Texas Church Plans to Give Away a House
Since 2003, Abundant Life Christian Center has given away a car, a motorcycle and furniture.
"It encourages people to come to the service, and it helps keep people off the street with all that revelry going on," said pastor Walter Hallam.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20051226/ap_on_re_us/house_giveaway_1

Forum Games › Re: Let's Start a Love Story by ijebuman(m): 5:41pm On Dec 31, 2005

Later i decided to go to church to pray for the 'nasty' thoughts i had earlier tongue

Rolly:
a'ight. but i'm sure u know thats was nasty and inapropriate

hope that clears things up

Forum Games › Re: Let's Start a Love Story by ijebuman(m): 5:33pm On Dec 31, 2005

Rolly:
@ nicetohave,

this is still a love story, i don't know what ijebuman is trying to do

@ ijebuman,

did u look at the topic and other posts before u posted? i'm sure u didnt this in not porn ok? so u better take your thoughts elsewhere

abeg chill jo rolleyes

Forum Games › Re: Let's Start a Love Story by ijebuman(m): 3:06pm On Dec 31, 2005

I was wet all over and realised how desperately i needed a man, the Love Machine in my bedside drawer could no longer do the job tongue

Forum Games › Re: Wetin Concern by ijebuman(m): 2:53pm On Dec 31, 2005

wetin concern Yankee with OBJ's third term agenda

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 12:03pm On Dec 31, 2005

@goodguy if you need more information about the history of the Yorubas or any other ethnic group in Nigeria, give me a shout, i'll be glad to provide you with the information

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Hold your head up high and be proud of our rich culture

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 11:53am On Dec 31, 2005

History 101

The Yoruba (native name Yorùbá) are the largest single ethnic group in Nigeria. The Yoruba constitute approximately 21% percent of Nigeria's total population, and number upwards of 30 million individuals throughout the region of West Africa. They share borders with the Nupe and Borgu peoples in the northwest, the Esan and Edo to the southeast, the Igala and other related groups to the northeast, and the Egun, Fon, and other Gbe-speaking peoples in the southwest. While the majority of the Yoruba live in the south-west of Nigeria, there are also substantial Yoruba communities in Benin, Togo, Sierra Leone, Cuba and Brazil.
more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba

Yoruba mythology
Yoruba mythology is sometimes claimed to be one of the world's oldest widely practised religions. It is a major religion in Africa, chiefly in Nigeria, and it has given origin to several New World religions such as Santería in Cuba and Candomblé in Brazil.

Itan is the term for the sum total of all Yoruba myths, songs, histories, and other cultural components.
Many ethnic Yoruba were enslaved and taken to Cuba, Brazil, Trinidad and the rest of the New World (chiefly in the 19th century, after the Oyo empire collapsed and the region plunged into civil war), and carried their religious beliefs with them. These concepts were combined with preexisting African-based religions, Christianity, Native American mythology, and Kardecist Spiritism into various New World lineages:

Santería (Cuba)
Oyotunji (USA)
Idigene (Nigeria)
Anago (Nigeria)
Candomblé (Brazil)
Umbanda (Brazil)
Batuque (Brazil)

The popularly known Vodun religion of Haiti combines the religious beliefs of the many different African ethnic nationalities taken to the island with the structure and liturgy from the Fon-Ewe of present-day Benin and the Congo-Angolan culture area, but Yoruba-derived relgious ideology and deities also play an important role.

Yoruba deities include "Oya" (wind goddess), "Ifa" (divination or fate), "Eleda" (destiny), "Ibeji" (twins), "Osanyin" (medicines and healing) and "Osun" (goddess of fertility, protector of children and mothers), Sango (God of thunder)
more: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yoruba
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/If%C3%A1

While the precise date of initial human settlement in Yoruba country remains unknown, many historians find in these traditions important aspects of early Yoruba history. First, Yoruba tradition can be forgiven for having seen the beginning of Yoruba culture as the creation of the world, for Yoruba culture is indeed old. The language of the Yoruba separated from that of some of their nearest neighbors at least 5000 years ago; from their linguistically most closely-related neighbors, the Igala, they separated 2000 years ago. (The relatively close linguistic relationship between Yoruba and Igala has led some scholars to suggest that Yoruba country may have been settled by migrants who came from the region where the Igala now live, near the confluence of the Niger and Benue rivers.)

Yoruba traditions remind us that farmland was not merely discovered, but was created by agriculturists, and that iron-working must have played a crucial role in its creation. Surely the great achievement of early Yoruba-speaking communities was carving open spaces for farming out of the forests which dominate most of Yoruba country. Probably as long as 2000 years ago, Yoruba agriculturists were already using iron tools. Early farmers would have relied upon the varieties of yams and cocoyams indigenous to West Africa. By about 2000 years ago, farmers would have begun to adopt plantains (bananas) which, having been brought to East Africa from Malaysia, were spreading across the continent.

Just as the evidence available to historians allows them to say relatively little about when and how farming peoples occupied the forests of southwestern Nigeria, so too they are not certain about their early political development. Some historians have suggested that the oldest political communities were villages, and that villages consolidated together to form states. Yoruba traditions, however, speak about the diffusion of kingship from Ife not only throughout Yoruba country, but also to neighboring regions, including Benin. They say that it was the sons of Oduduwa, the leader of the group sent by the Creator to establish land, who dispersed and created kingdoms.
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Yet, only in recent decades has archaeological research established the antiquity of Ife beyond doubt. Artifacts from Ife have shown that it has been occupied at least since the 6th century, and that from the 9th to 12th centuries it was "a settlement of substantial size," with houses featuring potsherd pavement. From this period date some of the terracotta sculptures and bronze castings which among students of African art are synonymous with Ife. The most famous Ife terracottas, which are believed to date from the 12th to the 14th centuries, along with the great bronze castings of the 14th and 15th centuries, mark the culmination of an artistic tradition at Ife which was several centuries old.
more: http://www.uiowa.edu/~africart/toc/history/giblinstate.html#yoruba

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Christianity Etc › Re: Do Aliens and Vampires Really Exist? by ijebuman(m): 2:08am On Dec 31, 2005

alienated:
those that claim that aliens do not exist ... are working with the government and they are covering up the truth...u should be ashamed of yourselfes.

someone's been watching too much X Files

nferyn:
@ alienated
Did you choose that username yourself or was it implanted in your brain during your alien abduction

ROFL

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 1:31am On Dec 31, 2005

goodguy:
I admit I know nothing about history. But at least, I know a little about some things that happened in the past. Which of my posts are you attacking by the way?
Good for you. I just hope you won't have to use any of your family members to sacrifice to the gods when diseases strike the land.

Ahh goodguy, you do liven up the place cheesy

if you read the first post of this thread you'll understand that Ifa is not about human sacrifices but like you said 'you know nothing about history' so i'll let that go

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Properties › Re: Real Estate In Nigeria: What Is It Like? by ijebuman(m): 1:16am On Dec 31, 2005

I have concerns about V/I-Lekki axis, with the possible future rises in sea levels and the fact that most of these areas are sandfilled and low lying, if there's a New Orleans scenario, will the government protect these areas or abandon it ?

I think any investor needs to consider this before investing there

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 12:50am On Dec 31, 2005

goodguy:
you should also start considering wearing leaves as your clothings (or those things they used to wear in those days).

Nothing wrong with that, i won't mind a spear to go with that outfit grin

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Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 12:37am On Dec 31, 2005

Ok goodguy Jesus is neither black or white, lets get back to the issue of Ifa, any thoughts ?

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 12:27am On Dec 31, 2005

WesleyanA:
nah. santa clause has a red robe w/ black buttons and belt. not white.
santa clause isn't 1000000000ft tall.

actually i just realised that and corrected myself grin

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 12:22am On Dec 31, 2005

WesleyanA:
and really now. when you close your eyes and think of what God looks like in your brain. you know it's a white huge man w/ a white beard and white long holy robe. you know!

Now that i think of it, ever since i saw Bruce Almighty, i keep having this image of Morgan Freeman as god grin

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 12:13am On Dec 31, 2005

goodguy:
I have never seen a picture of God before in any place in my entire life. But as per Jesus, the only reason why you'll always see Him as a white man is because He was born as a white man, in a white man's country. If He was born in Nigeria, He'll definitely be portrayed as a black man.

Of course why won't Jesus be portrayed as white, we're talking about the same people who told us Mungo Park discovered the River Niger as if the poor natives using the river were blind.

I suggest you do a bit more research regarding the race of Jesus

The race of Jesus has been a subject of debate since at least the 19th century. The physical appearance of Jesus of Nazareth, though with no explicit emphasis on race, was also debated by theologians from early on in the history of Christianity. Different societies have depicted Jesus and most other biblical figures as their own ethnicity in their art, for example he is primarily white in western art, Semitic in the Middle East, and black in Africa. However, many historians and theologians dispute the accuracy of such representations. The current dominant opinion among secular historians and scientists is that he was most likely a bronze-skinned man, resembling modern-day persons of Middle Eastern descent. Others, however, have suggested other possible racial backgrounds, including African and Indian ones. For orthodox Christians the question is complicated by the belief that his birth was a unique miracle, an incarnation in flesh of divine substance.
Read the rest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_of_Jesus

So what colour was Jesus
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/magazine/3958241.stm

goodguy:
The white men brought Christianity here because Jesus commanded that the gospel should be preached worldwide. It wasn't sold to us in anyway.

“When the missionaries came to Africa they had the Bible and we had the land. They said "Let us pray." We closed our eyes. When we opened them we had the Bible and they had the land.” - Bishop Desmond Tutu

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Career › Re: Outstanding Achievements of Nigerians in the US by ijebuman(m): 11:40pm On Dec 30, 2005

theORAKU:
Its so good to hear naijas making wave around in the US.

You have all forgotten about the father of the internet, Phillip emeagwali.
that guy has been voted 35th greatest African ranking among people like Mandela, Nkrumah, Pele, Bob Marley, Malcolm X, Martin Luther King.

Regarding Emeagwali there seems to be a lot of controversy surrounding his claims
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philip_Emeagwali

Career › Re: Outstanding Achievements of Nigerians in the US by ijebuman(m): 11:33pm On Dec 30, 2005

spikelord:
Just as we had a Nigerian is the Production crew of Mummy Returns, he also appeared in the film "Sugar Hill" by Wesley Snipes. His name is A. Agbaje also.

I think this same guy now appears in Lost, his name is Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0015382/
http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0015382/bio

Christianity Etc › Re: To Tithe or Not to Tithe? by ijebuman(m): 10:52pm On Dec 30, 2005

[quote author=Hnd-holder link=topic=272.msg145469#msg145469 date=1135866069] tongue

Matthew 15:

13 But he answered and said, Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted, shall be rooted up.

Yes this means what? let everybody read the full text . You again out of context![/quote]of course quoting the bible to suit one's agenda is not a new thing now grin

https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-2551.32.html#msg111859

Travel › Re: Tourism Can Bring Serious Income to Nigeria by ijebuman(m): 10:35pm On Dec 30, 2005

Kokscity:
Ijebuman

Ur company does not do a package for Nigeria? Now if you r the biggest in the UK, i am scratching my head and wandering why you guys don't go to the most populated and biggest country in West Africa? Hmmmmm tell us where your clients go and why, now for those reasons i think we know why Nigeria is not a huge tourist destination.

I went to a Local Tours and Travel person yesterday and told them i wanted to visit Africa and i needed suggestion, they did not know i was Nigerian, they thought i was African American. I had a budget of $2000 FOR FOOD,Ticket and Hotel and sightseeing. U know we talked for about 30Min's and Nigeria was not even mentioned or suggested and i even told her that she should stick to East and west Africa.

There are things happening but like i said in an earlier post they have no idea of what Nigeria has to offer. The large tour operators in the UK don't go into virgin territory, they let some other small company do the hard work and then they buy them up

Our clients base their choice on what they see in our brochures or on our website, if we put Nigeria in it with nice pictures of the beach and a nice woman with a bikini on, they will go there (its what we call 'marketing' grin

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Romance › Re: Can You Marry a Blind Man or Woman? by ijebuman(m): 1:38pm On Dec 30, 2005

[quote author=larger_20 link=topic=3220.msg147188#msg147188 date=1135945842]Not at all. she needs a child..not body wants her. I am bring both the money and the kid and the love..so what is bad about it?[/quote]Just because someone is blind doesn't mean they are less 'human' than you. Why would you think no body will want a blind person ?

Romance › Re: Can You Marry a Blind Man or Woman? by ijebuman(m): 1:27pm On Dec 30, 2005

[quote author=larger_20 link=topic=3220.msg147153#msg147153 date=1135944763]The greatest gift i could give to a blind woman is to pregnant her by the side and send her weekly or monthly pay cheque Please visit her when I have time to see how she is doing. Help pay the child's expense. spend time with the kid only when I have the time and feel like it.

If you talk about having her as my only one, that is improbable due to my sociatal standard. I will not even go out with her. I will not tell people she is girl friend by the side. Period. If this offer is not enough for her then, I am sorry, I can't help[/quote]you can't be serious, you should be ashamed of yourself for posting this

Romance › Re: Dating Foreigners by ijebuman(m): 12:07pm On Dec 30, 2005

Hi debanjee, don't let the opinion of others determine the way you want to live your life. You've met someone who makes you happy, go for it. I used to date an indian girl some years ago and we do have similar traditional and cultural values. A note of warning, they too have issues with 'foreigners'.

When my ex first told her mum about me, her mum said as long as he's not a muslim then its ok grin

(her family was Hindu). We broke up about 3 years ago, not because of cultural differences but because i was not ready to settle down at that point. We're still friends and have both moved on.

Culture › Re: Ifa - The True Religion Of The Yorubas? by ijebuman(op): 11:27pm On Dec 29, 2005

layi:
There are of course people who still believe in IFA. Are they any better than some of us?
Religion is not a thing to be mixed with sentiments. I don't see any difference IFA will make.

Christainity et al was 'sold' to us on the basis that our own traditional religion is bad and theirs was better. Yet people still resort to traditional methods when existing religions can not resolve the issue.

layi:
In fact it would worsen issues because its going to give almost limitless powers to the diviners who would also be used by politicians and it would lead us back to square 1.

How will it make the current situation worse ? one of the main philosophies of ifa is that 'you must never initiate harm to another human being or to the universe, which you are apart of'
Politicians already use ethnic and religious leaders for their own selfish ends. Or are you saying Ifa is more powerful than existing religions ? grin

Travel › Re: Tourism Can Bring Serious Income to Nigeria by ijebuman(m): 10:12pm On Dec 29, 2005

@@ Kokscity
Here's what a fellow American

had to say about the tourist potential of Nigeria

...although the tourism infrastructure in Nigeria is not as developed as in other places in Africa, Nigeria offers perhaps the best variety of tourist attractions and destinations in West Africa. American tourists will discover numerous unique scenic attractions which differ from one place to another scattered throughout Nigeria that will allow them to experience and enjoy the people of Nigeria as they come in contact with the fascinating history, ancient traditions and varied customs of Nigeria's proud heritage. The members of TCI's delegation found that by conducting this FAM Tour, we discovered an unseen section of the African Continent once considered to be 'well off the beaten path' and thus gained a greater appreciation of Nigeria's people, culture and history.
read the full article: http://www.africa-ata.org/nigeria_broadus.htm
Nigeria: A tourism destination full of challenge by Helen C. Broadus: Africa Travel Magazine

Places of interest in Nigeria
http://www.nigeriabusinessinfo.com/places.htm
http://www.nigeria.gov.ng/tourism.aspx
http://www.voiceofnigeria.org/nigeria/landscape.html (pictures)

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