₦airaland Forum

Onuh211:
I'm from middle belt and right from time we're are at peace with our muslim brothers, no be say dem dey peaceful oo it is because of the 50/50 population. dem no born dem make dem try dat shit here, everywhere go turn bloody...
To those, who think that some muslims are against that inhuman act, wake up!!! all of dem love what those stupid fanatics did in sokoto only the brave admits...
In conclusion, the real muslims are those terrorizing our dear world in the name of; a mere mortal.....

Exactly what I just wrote wrt to SW. Those SW are not peaceful na because they are put numbered. I have seen their action first class. When you pay attention to ritual killing committed in the SW, it mostly (keyword) done by the muslims. Life means nothing to them. They(most) are as barbaric as the northern animals.

humberjade:
One keeps wondering why Southern Muslims and Christians live in peace and harmony, unlike the persecution of Christians in the North (by the way, I hear Northerns don't view Southern Muslims as real Muslims)...Well, I think the difference lies in the kind of spiritual/religious/political leadership they have up North...To put their followers under a tight leash, they had to manipulate the Holy Quran to achieve this. Not only did they use extreme poverty as weapon, they twisted the words in the Quran in such a way that their followers dare not question their authority while being oppressed, but instead, carry out their anger on those whose belief differ from theirs. A typical example was how those barbarians went berserk killing innocent Christian NYSC members in 2011 because Buhari lost an election. Naturally, most Northerners exhibit high level of religious intolerance whether you blasphem or not, they will cut you down when they feel like. That's why I say it takes some steel balls to practice Christianity up core North.

Unfortunately, the only changing factor, Western Education, which could change the narrative, as been tagged as harem by this leadership (the same education the elite spend millions on their wards to acquire). And has anyone noticed that these barbarian acts mostly happen in poverty stricken cities and countries. Where there is prosperity, people seldom care who says what, they caution, persecute lawfully and that's all.

That is why i keep saying people like Professor Ishaq Akintola, Director of MURIC should be watched very closely and checked down South; his teachings are too extreme.

The key to changing this mindset lies in the leaders up North, but I bet it can never happen for obvious reasons, hence, the need to divide the country. We are two different people; culturally, religiously, and politically. The least the entity called Nigeria needs right now, is Regional Governance. Make everybody dey hin dey for hin region; developing at its own pace and practicing whatever suit its people, without holding eachother down. And gradually, whoever wants to secede can do so peacefully without bloodshed. You can't be forcing a marriage and still be looking down and hurting those you want to remain in bed with.

My advice is that, it is high time liberal Muslims rise to caution their fellow Believers who are extremists and giving the religion a bad name. The supreme God I grow up to know needs nobody to fight for Him; He is an all sufficient God.

Don't be deceived majority of the Yoruba Muslims are ill tempered and have that terrorist tendency. In fact majority of Muslims are ill tempered, there is anger or something in Islamic water they drink. The reason the Yoruba ones appeared mild is because non-Muslims are more represented in the south, if they misbehave like the animals in the north, south or sw will burn. That being said, they would have killed the girl too if this had happened in Iwo or any Muslim populated town in SW. Ishaq is a terrorist. There is just nothing peaceful about Islam to be sincere. There is a reason the Yoruba (forefathers) called it esin imole (religion of force or forceful religion), they actually saw the bloodshed to have called it that name.

Look around the world, there is religiously motivated bloodshed anywhere you have Islam. Religion of force. Even at Ile keu (quran school) they beat the pupils like they stole something, forcing them to learn arabic in the name of keu. It is of recent they are trying to change the force in name to peace.

Ogun kill Buhari for not asking for an immediate arrest of those barbaric people that killed because of some mortal that died centuries ago. Someone you don't know. Religion of peace my foot. Nigeria must divide. We should all go on Twitter and ask for the immediate arrest of these barbaric acts, else no election, no govt. Let Nigeria cease to exist. These should be war. No Religion has monopoly of violence. All the stupid yoruba Muslims can identify with their northerners if they want, because they are already playing second fiddle by using Northern cap as Muslim cap. Islam always bringing chaos to everywhere. If they are not killing innocent people in the north because of some nonsense Religion, they will be killing people in SW for rituals. Non-muslim should rise today and demand equity in the country. If those guys are not arrested and killed, let Nigeria burn. Let all of us become refuges. Let's burn everything to ashes. Ogun kill any Muslim that justify this killing. Religion of piss.

Thunder fire any Muslim that says this is not Islamic. You guys don't condemn your fellow Muslims barbaric act. You guys don't make sure they are brought to book. Thunder fire all of you, Thunder fire the said religion of piss. Why impose your barbaric religion on someone else? Thunder fire any Muslim that will attack my post.

elipheleh:
Cry cry baby.

Wail till infinity.

On Obi we stand in PDP

On Ebele Jonathan we stand in APC

Ineptitude Jona cannot win the APC ticket, and he knows that. Reason he would prefer the ticket to be given to him on a platter of gold. Obi too cannot win the PDP ticket. Orji Kalu is very reasonable here, you guys are just castigating him for no reason. Until SE starts working with other regions, they will remain a silo. Obi doesn't have enough time to bridge that gap with other ethnicity. Only way to have Igbo aspirants on the 2 major platforms is if the tickets are given to them. So Kalu is right.

Zeeku:
my brother, Peter Obi remains the best. Let's tell our self the truth, you guys should stop all this lie lie of thing. Let's build a better Nigeria that our children will enjoy tomorrow. Peter Obi is best I stand on his mandate. Peter Obi 2023

Saying a candidate is the best is a feeling and not a fact. Very subjective. The same way people believed Buhari was the best. Just vote for your candidate and let others do the same.

Tochj:
Onu conceded his ticket to Falae
Ekwueme also supported OBJ in 1999 and 2003
Not minding the many betrayals.

I want to believe you were a kid in 1999 that you didn't witness the election else you would have remembered Obasanjo, obasanjo, obasanjo, Ekwueme, Obasanjo etc. when they were counting the votes. Alibaba even made a joke out of it. In essence, Ekwueme contested against OBJ. While APP and AD did what ACN and CPC did to APC.

OfoIgbo:
The SE voted for OBJ in both the 1999 and 2003 presidential elections

No you voted for PDP, else 35-40% votes would have gone to Olu Falae. SE always vote for PDP. You guys should stop this lie of supporting SW. Y'all never did. If Atiku wins PDP ticket and say Osinbajo or Amaechi wins APC, y'all will still vite enmass for PDP. PDP should be the one to compensate you and not other parties.

ebufa:
Obasanjo they voted for 1989 and 2003 is apparently from the moon abi? Oga, do not underestimate the treachery you Yorubas are capable of!

Stop the lies. SE voted for PDP and not because of OBJ. Even if a goat becomes the PDP aspirant today, SE will still vote for PDP. If you had supported SW, you would have voted for Olu Falae, at least 35-40% votes would have gone to AD. You always vote for PDP irrespective of the flag bearer.


Then orji lied that only SE is yet to lead the country since 1999. NC and NE are yet to lead too.

Rawtruth1:
Ok. If Nigeria wants to make Nnamdi Kanu a hero and make UN to see Igbos qualify as "oppressed people of the earth", let them deny Igbos the Presidency.

Obasanjo has already warned it could lead to disintegration of Nigeria.

And I can assure you, it's true. Let's watch as it unfolds

https://dailypost.ng/2022/03/11/2023-igbo-president-will-bring-peace-to-nigeria-obasanjo/

Nothing will happen! It is election and not selection. It is not given on a platter of gold. Organize yourself into a voting unit, work with other ethnic groups to increase your chances. Me against the world will not take you anywhere. If Obi or any Igbo wins on the election day, I don't think anyone will deny the person. For now, focus on winning the primary first. IMHO , I don't see any Igbo winning the primaries of the 2 major parties, I stand corrected though.

PrinceOfLagos:
We understand Osibanjo is the worst VP that Nigeria ever had but, bros, is Tinubu not a betrayer too?

Worst vp? Tell me what Sambo and Atiku did as vps, even Jonathan as vp? This is the first time we have an active vp. Nobody even remember Sambo and Jonathan 's time as vp. Atiku was active but used the active "activeness" to steal money

lonecatt:
Jagaban Adamawa?
Osibanjo seems to lack courage

Can you explain how he lacks courage?

IboHausaYoruba:
Ilorin is North Central, Ilorins are more of Hausa culture including their king who bears Emir like every northerners' King. So I don't want to hear anything skull mining.

It doesn't matter whether NC, CN, SW, WS, Yoruba whatever, ritual killing is common among the Muslims. Still remember an hausa maigaurd that plucked a lady eyes at Oba Akran in Ikeja for ritual. He was asked to bring "live" eyes.

Maxymilliano:
https://www.facebook.com/47904265/posts/10105883010302470/

Since the religion bigot wqnna go this path, let's go there together. Where has this guy been since his fellow Muslims have been destroying Nigeria whether as terrorists, bandits, in government, beggars, constituting nuisance? Where was his voice when his fellow Muslims/alfas of SW kill people for ritual? Ritual killing in the west is common with the Muslim, not saying it doesn't happen with other faith. Reason Oyo, Osun, Ogun are dangerous states to stay in SW. Where was his voice when McOleomo, Kunle poly and other Muslim brothers turn themselves to agberos in Lagos and constitute nuisance? Where was his article when Buhari appointed his fellow men and Muslims into juicy and sensitive positions? Where was his writings when Buhari allowed boko haram sponsors to be in the government?

VULCAN:
Out of the over one million Nigerians on Nairaland...


You are by far the most delusional.

A woman who obtained a fake NYSC discharge certificate despite the fact that she was unqualified for one is who you are praising.

A woman who oversaw the drop in Naira value from N180 to a dollar to N350 to a dollar- the greatest loss of value in the shortest possible time.

NOI remains the greatest Finance Minister we have ever had for a plethora of reasons. A major one being she worked to wipe away Nigeria's $40 billion debt.

NOI's greatness can be confirmed in what she is today while Kemi's ordinariness can be confirmed in what she is doing today.

Anyway, no surprises about your support for Kemi as you are an APC urchin. Paid a monthly stipend to tell lies which you guys started in 2014 and you still continue today.

What's wrong with you guys with your tribal sentiments? Naira will always fall as long as there is a high demand for dollars. You can as well say Abacha's regime was better than any democracy because dollars was around 4-10. There has been a gradual collapse since Babangida. Dollar was about $20 when OBJ took over, so tell me how much it was when OBJ left, possibly $100, is Iweala to be blame for that? Naira will continue to fall until we go to the fundamental and start producing goods, build factories, create goods that are needed in Naija and abroad so there will be influx of dollars and less demand for it since there will be a reduction in import. But as long as we are still importing tooth pick, pencil and everything we use in naija, the demand for $ will be high and our naira will depreciate, and the depreciation will be accelerated with any disruption in dollar inflow. It doesn't matter whether Obi, PYO, BAT etc is charge, until we do the necessary.

The crash in Naira was more pronounced during Buhari because of the crash in oil and gas price in 2015, went down to $30/bbl. Average of $100/bbl during Jonathan. Jonathan too was wasteful, he disnt bother to save for bad days. Oil is our major source of forex, if anything happen to oil production, una go hear am.

While Iweala wiped out of debt during OBJ. She (maybe I should blame Jonathan for this) wasteful during Jonathan. We started borrowing, oil price was at his peak, there was no savings. Perhaps, the president has a final say in every decision.

That being said, Kemi also performed credibly well foe the little time she was in charge. Oil was $30/bbl for God sake. Was even thinking naira will fall to 1000/$. Sentiment aside, give kudos to people when they do well.

ValCon888:
Most likely carbon monoxide poisoning.
They couldn't fûck with the windows open.
So the man shut all the windows and switched on the AC.

And that was the beginning of the end.

Edit: Let me break it down for those who don't understand.

The SUV's engine produces a lot of toxic gases which flows through the vehicle's exhaust system.

The most common way of carbon monoxide poisoning is when the car’s AC is on and it is parked in a garage or a space with limited airflow.

The SUV’s AC intake pulls in the air which now mixes with the exhaust gases.

The carbon monoxide is odourless, so it goes undetected and slowly kills the occupants of the car.

Keyword is parked in a confined place, hence the gas from the exhaust pipe can't escape, at a while it will find a way into the car whether ac is on or off, whether window is up or down. Most of the times we sleep in the car with the ac on while in work location in a remote area. In this case, the car was outside, hence, you theory of carbomonoxide doesn't apply. This could be a murder. Police should investigate instead of arrive at a conclusion.

Nonsense!

sammirano:
Op, I strongly hope you are not a Yoruba, Cos, if you are then God has catch you. Of all the angels in Yorubaland, you went ahead for a yam legged flatbed headed girl. Go marry her dead body already. Nonsense!

Who is this odetic mumu.

Obinna666:
Nna my brother ,i tire,some people have no fear for anything...all this baby boy them,they think social media de help for this kind thing.. the more he delays ,the more the money increases,the more the problem increases,its better now that no ear , much ear have heard it,its even the op mind to come post it here..i blame the girl sha,it doesn't seem like this guy has anything respect for her both in live and death

If you are looking at it from the respect angle, if the girl respected her family she wouldn't move in with a man.

sweetjohn:
Oga, Africa women don't toast men. No woman take any woman son without paying her bride price and got pregnant for him. rather it's the foolish men that deceived the woman with unquantified lies of love, got them pregnant without paying their bride price.

You should know that woman unlike men are love machine. They have the heart of love and as such are vulnerable to scammers men. Don't blame them much for following their heart out of pure love. Rather it's the stupid man that should be blame bc he took advantage of her innocency. In case like this, if the law got involved, it's the man that will be guilty. That's criminal to take someone daughter without the knowledge of the family

Who says African woman don't toast man? She was an adult. Was the girl forced to agree to the guy advancement? Bride price is a curural thing, in some culture it is the woman that pays groom price. My point is that nothing is set in stone. Because those before us believed the norm is to pay price doesn't mean we can't change it.

Any girl of 18 yrs can decide for herself. There is no law that says you must pay a dowry before you can impregnate someone or be impregnated by someone. There is no law that stipulated that you have to pay or collect dowry before having sex with someone's daughter or son. There is no law that says you must marry someone that you impregnate or marry someone that impregnated you whether alive or dead. So he will NOT be guilt in a court of law.

EzePaschal:
You want to leave their daughter's corpse in the morgue for them to come and carry after living with her for over 3 years and having a son with her? Hehehehe e be like say you no wise. If you know the the problem ahead of you my brother you won't be this stubborn. The family have been waiting for you before her death. They know you are stubborn and they are ready for you. You go pay lawyers tire in the next 5 years and may spend it in jail. No go find money pay her bride price and bury her. This battle will last for years

Can you list the problems ahead of him? What is the basis of paying lawyers for 5 years?

Qatar2022:
Believe it or not you will marry her corpse, you will pay her pride price and do traditional marriage before burial

I guess they want their daughter's body to rot in mortuary. Let the authority (through a lawyer) be aware, bury the girl (after a reasonable notification given to the family) out of respect for her. Or take the highway like her family by leaving the corpse in the mortuary, since family won't allow him to bury her, and move on with his son. Nothing will happen to him. It is their loss.

Shoodboi:
LoL. And who's the father of the kid? They are still insisting he's mine.

So would he grow without a father? And what if he comes in the future claiming I'm his father? Imagine I'm in a political office then or running for one? That's mad scandal.

As long as the DNA says he's not yours. Move on, no one can force a child on you except you want them to. Cut all communication from them. If the child comes in future, show him the result and even carry out another test to show you are not responsible for him. It shows the girl wasn't faithful.

sweetjohn:
You are quick to blame Africa but no white man go about taking people's daughters without the knowledge of the parent or even marrying her. The white people are more discipline bin their deeds and actions and as a result don't need all this African cultures.

But here in Nigeria, some fools will just take someone daughter, got her pregnant without even paying her bride price and when she die will just go and dump the dead body for her parents. Is this not witchcraft?

People like you will even go any length to kill the man for disrespecting your daughter, you and your family. And that's total disrespect to the entire family anyway

And some fools will just take someone's son, got pregnant for him without knowing his family.

vincenteger:
I just kept wondering why people are still giving you advice.
You already said you won't marry her and that's your final decision.
Please go and do what ever is in your mind.
And for your information, you have no right to put her in the mortuary without the presence of a relative, she's not your wife remember.

Nonsense, what will the family do if they put her in thr mortuary or even bury her (with reasonable notification)? This is not 16th century.

ibechris:
Then it is not a must for him to talk about a child out of wedlock.

Life do happen and you can't change that. He's the one entertaining them. If they are not responding, do everything within law to bury the girl. And move on with his life.

Shoodboi:
I guess they're Urhobo/Isoko people. You're like me too. The warned me about her and I thought my people were being tribalists.

If you know what I'm going through in thier hands, you'll feel sorry for me. I've spent over 2m+ so far and we're still dragging issues in court. And this is even though DNA had proven the kid isn't mine.

Those people behave like robots. They won't listen to you unless you take decisive action against them.

All your talk of borrowing money to treat her is all talk. They don't care unless you do what they want. In my case, her mom even collected my receipts from her and claiming she paid. This is even though her elder bro knows I paid.

Your only solution is to seek legal advise and drag them to court. You own the kid.

And if the court gives you the kid, cut all access to them. He must not know their language or even bear their name.

Like you, they warned me too and I didnt listen. Those Urhobo/Isoko people should only marry themselves.

Despite two DNA, they're still trying to insist the kid is mine.

Na you dey give them attention. Just ignore and move on with your life.

ImaIma1:
He took someone's daughter and kept her in his house and made her his wife without doing the proper rites. She even had a child in that union. Who else was supposed to take care of her in his house? You? If she were to be in her parents' house, they would have been taking care of her there.

You are talking from the standpoint of a man and a "Nigerian girl". If you were looking at it from the point of view that she's your daughter, your response would be different.

It's not my mindset that is the topic here. The people whose daughter/sister he camped in her house are the ones you should direct your anger to. One thing is for sure...he's playing with his son's relationship with him.

"He took someone's daughter...". Was she kidnapped? Was she forced to move in with him? Was she rapped? And she didn't take someone's son abi? The family should even be happy she left a son behind, a consolation.

ibechris:
What nonsense are u writing man.

What they are saying is that,since u didn't marry her by paying her dowry when she was alive,then now that she is dead,u will pay her dowry and perform her marriage rites as the tradition entails.
Them no say,make u come sleep with her corpse oh.

Is it a must to marry your lover?

celestine2015:
OP, from your response from people's comments, u seem to be rude. You want advice, but u don't want to disclose her tribe. Its understandable that you're in pains, having lost her...but u need to do the needful. It may not cost u much..it's just a matter of dialogue and understanding between her family and yours. I already know the tribe of the girl.

I don't know you religious inclinations, but one thing is sure, dis life is mysterious. Pls, don't be stubborn..approach this with maturity.
In the tribe of this girl, if u don't have any consensus or agreement with her family, the boy is not yours. Secondly, after u bury her in your way...THERE WILL BE CONSEQUENCES. Take it or leave it.pp

No need to disclose tribe because there are many myopic people that will turn it to tribal discussion or water down an intelligent contribution. Irrespective of the tribe, he should refuse to marry the corpse. It is unfortunate his partner died, but the girl was an adult. Old enough to decide what she wanted.

StilmaVsBorn2w:
joseph,how can you claim I killed her when she's been back to the village twice this period when she was sick with several tradition medicine you all gave her still it had no effect. I had to borrow money to take to several hospitals for test and different expensive drug's, while you all were just sitting there with no monetary assistance.
I said am tired.
I can't marry your sister dead body, am expecting the worst from you

I don't know why you are troubling yourself. It was a mutual agreement between you and the girl to live together. She was an adult and not a minor when she moved in with you, hence, old enough to decide in shat she wants. It is high time we stopped that nonsensical getting marrying to a corpse in the name of tradition. We might as well walk bare footed, no vehicles in the name of traditions. Guy, if anyone touch your son, report to the kidnap case to the police immediately. Nobody had the right to take your son away from you.

VillagePipu:
Politically, Osinbajo is NOTHING without Tinubu.
Tinubu made Osinbajo AG for 8 years and VP for 8 years. This story he is telling is incomplete. Who sent Amosun and Aregbe to him? He failed mention that part.
I support Osinbajo but this recent attitude of brushing Tinubu aside is absolutely nonsense.

He was someone before and after Tinubu. It is because he was good in his profession that Tinubu hired/contracted him to work for him. Before Tinubu, he worked for Bola Ige. So Tinubu didn't make him. Of anything PYO made himself, he was so good that OBJ wanted to hijack from Lagos state and make him the AG of the federation. He told BAT about it, and BAT asked to decide what he wants. He chose to be loyal to BAT. So it was a mutual beneficial relationship.