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CapitalCee:
Eeeehm, I am not too much an ole fan. But he has beaten Pep a number of times, beaten Ancellotti, Beaten Klopp, beat Tuchel himself, beat Mourinho all within that time frame. Tuchel has done a fantastic job but this your point is not valid. Sorry sir

Ole beat Ancelotti in the last 2 months? Has Ole won at Anfield in close to 3 years he’s been here? Has he even beaten Klopp in a league game? No.

Ole can’t even beat Arteta. Tuchel is thousands of leagues ahead of Ole. I mentioned what Tuchel has done in the last 2 months. Emphasis on the last two months.

Panther7:
If that happens abeg Kane, Sancho, Varane, Ndidi/Rice, Back up RB. It's not realistic but let me dream

If Woodward signs all those players you listed this summer, I’d build him a statue.

Ndidi and Varane will take that defence 5 levels up
Sancho and Kane will take the attack 8 levels up.

Oasis007:
Kane should rather find himself another Club. United shouldn't go for him, seems he's on decline already. If we are getting any Player from Spurs, it should be Son. Sancho should be bought at all cost as well.

We already have about 4 players that want to play where Son likes to play.

Rashford
Martial
James
Shoretire

Lana1:
We all talk about how hard it is to beat Chelsea but no one is talking about how hard it's been to beat United as well.

4 losses in the league, 3 coming in the first 6 games of the season when we were absolute pants and 1 coming in a game were the ref fùcked us.

Na that FA Cup loss plus the last minute draws really fall our hand this season.

Ole lost to Roma, Leicester in the last month alone.

He’s not difficult to beat.

Tuchel has beaten Diego Simeone twice, Pep Guardiola twice, Carlo Ancelotti, José Mourinho, Jürgen Klopp and Zinedine Zidane in the last 2 months.

How many CL titles can you count from that list?

Please, rivalry bullshit aside, Tuchel deserves a truckload of credits.

Panther7:
What if he wins?

It means United are doomed for another 3 years.

Although, I suspect the Glazers might loosen their purse this summer. They will be trying to appease the fans.

If United get the right players in the positions that need changes, it should be difficult for Ole’s incompetence to wreck yet another season.

patrickmuf:
My point exactly, the defense let us down.

The defence or how Ole sets up the defence?

Panther7:
What's the solution now cos this guy ain't going anywhere soon?

His contract won’t be renewed if he loses the Europa final.

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Panther7:
Guy abeg no kill me .


Ole on the wheel

Tuchel arrived about 3 months ago, he’s now won PL games at Spurs, Etihad and Anfield.

He’s won more PL games away against the top 6 teams this season than Ole that started this season from day 1.

Ole puts the I in Incompetence.

Panther7:
I have no idea about Cavani, but Cavani should have started that game.

No matter how you shake it, Ole is culpable for the draws and losses.

What about the FA cup tie against Leicester.

The players were going on international break for 2 weeks and Ole rested most of them so that international football managers can use them for their countries.

Ole puts the D in Daftness.

patrickmuf:
We drew 2 vs 2 if my memory (Heineken has a say now) serves me right...That's enough to win a game, no?

It should be enough to win a game but this is the PL. The best teams aren’t blunt in the attack and dumb at the back.

United were both blunt and dumb earlier in the season, there’s no excuse for that.

Then you look at the draws against Everton(Maguire), West Brom(Lindelof), Crystal Palace(Maguire). The Loss against Sheffield United(Tuanzebe) was the most painful.

9 points pissed away without any fight.

patrickmuf:
Check our game vs Sheffield United, Everton and West Brom and Leicester City (league) and you'd better understand it was more of defensive lapses because I those games, we scored a goal and in some cases, two...

Rashford missed a sitter against Leicester in the opening minutes. Everything went left after that moment.

Panther7:
Guy listen to yourself he was allowed to break his fast meaning he played in the evening/night. The Leeds game was in the afternoon.

Can you play football without drinking water?

Players no be robot na.

But I agree with the last statement but cut the man some slack on Pogba decision.

If Pogba couldn’t start, what about Cavani?

None of the top 6 clubs won at Leeds, Ole should have gone there with his full ammo and make sure the 3 points were secured.

Panther7:
I don't like Ole but I will defend his decision not to play Pogba against Leeds.

Sometimes we forget Pogba is fasting, playing him against a Leeds side with high energy in the afternoon is suicidal.

That’s not an excuse.

Wesley Fofana was allowed to break his fast during Ramadan last week.

The referee halted the game for him.

Ole is just incompetent.

benji93:
That was what we heard the season before, and yet we are here. You will be here to witness MU lift the EPL next season.

Oby Ezekwesili will also become the Queen of England.

Lana1:
All me I know is, we are already scoring a lot of goals as it is. They have to fix the defence before next season if not it will be tears as usual!

Roma scoring us 5 goals over two legs is unacceptable

Getting rid of Maguire automatically fixes the defence by 70%.

weedtaker:
Next season will be interesting, we blew our chance to challenge for the title dis season, next season seems set to be a difficult one, I hope we come out stronger.

PE teacher can never beat Pep to the Premier League title over 38 games - It’s impossible.

Klopp will improve, Tuchel is here already. Arsenal might remove Arteta for a hungry manager. Spurs will also replace the cartoon character currently occupying the manager’s position.

Next season suddenly looks very tough for United.

Lana1:
We could be 4 points behind City before they play again.

If these ones have any modicum of shame, they should make sure City dont win the league till the final day.

Had Ole started Pogba and Cavani against Leeds, it would have been 2 points behind City before Pep plays another game.

Stupid decisions by Ole is why he keeps failing.

Bombblacks:
One win away from winning the league you make nine changes to your team against an inform Chelsea side and used a formation I can't even understand or explain. Some coaches are just daft sometimes.

OPTA has it down as 3-3-3-1 formation.

Even FIFA doesn’t have this formation listed on their game.

Pep is a joke.

weedtaker:
2 in 2 now, concerning the CL final, I trust the bald fraud will be sh!!ting his pants now.

He will probably tell his boys to get Kante sent off in the final to have all the advantage he wants.

Pep is a snake.

Tuchel just beating Pep for fun these days.

Tuchel’s made this team so formidable.

They are currently the most difficult team to beat in Europe.

raumdeuter:
How did you feel when Man utd won 6 of 8 league seasons

6/8 isn’t 9/9.

Bundesliga has become the Scottish league.

Their European coefficient ranking should be halved for this rubbish.

The Bundesliga is a joke.

Kingsley Coman is the luckiest player on the planet.

He’s had 10 seasons in his football career and he has won a league title in each of those 10 seasons.

Dude has more league titles than Cristiano and his contribution in those titles is less than 10%.

Bayern win the Bundesliga - again.

Muller and Alaba with 10 league titles each(Ryan Giggs must be feeling uneasy now).

I wonder how Bayern fans feel. Do they celebrate these victories or they are now numb to winning?

raumdeuter:
What position was Pep earlier in the season after 4 seasons in the league

Pandemic season without a preseason.

It’s not reflective of how his teams operate. It’s a one off incident that we might never see again.

Even the PL had to delay City/United’s first PL games because the two teams went the furthest in Europe last season and had to resume the a new season in the PL within a month or so.

raumdeuter:
I agree. Barcelona is crap. I saw their lineup vs Madrid in the last el classico and like 8 players don't even deserve to play for Osasuna never mind Barcelona
Minguesa Lenglet Araujo Pedri Braithwaite Trincai Dest
They want to give Messi a last good outing given he has a few yrs left. They should go and sign Neymar

Neymar just signed a new contract at PSG.

raumdeuter:
Away win makes no difference. It's still 3 points

Spurs made top 4 for many seasons until Mourinho came

Spurs were in 14th position when Mourinho arrived. He didn’t meet Spurs in top 4.

And this was a Spurs side that had the same manager for 6 years. It wasn’t as if Poch was still new at the job. He’d had close to 6 years to fine tune the team to its taste and style and yet he plunged them to 14th position without a trophy.

You can’t blame Mourinho for Poch’s failure.

patrickmuf:
I didn't see the Juve slump coming.

For the Buli, I think Wolfsburg are stronger than Eintracht Frankfurt, so why are you particular about Wolfsburg?

Koeman is average, I agree...

Barcelona are crap lately though. I wonder what happened to La Masia and the bundle of talents they were pushing through about a decade ago.

There are a lot of mediocre players in their roster and the bulk of their best players are 30+. They need a serious overhaul to get back to those glory days.

raumdeuter:
So was Pep and Ole at the beginning of this season and they are now top 2 in the league

The difference is neither Pep nor Ole hadn’t won an away league game in almost a year.

Neither Pep nor Ole won a miserable 25 points from 24 PL games.

Neither Pep nor Ole had lost the most points from a winning position in a league of 20 teams.

The comparison to Pep/Ole is highly flawed.

hoopLA:
Lol.

Watch how the eternally foolish one will dodge this high jump you have set by running under the bar.

It knows itself.

Even my two month old baby knows Ole is a failure.

She saw his face on the screen the other day and didn't stop crying till we changed the channel.

Just kill me.

patrickmuf:
When Mourinho took over, we're Spurs in the top 4? No, they were 14 but he guided them to the Europa League position, is that not improvement?

This season, before he was sacked, were Spurs out of the UCL race? No!

You are talking about the UEL, ain't it a competition Mou is not supposed to give a damn about?

It's laughable, he wins it with us, you guys rubbish the trophy and now he losses out of the trophy, you want to drag him...Funny!

If you are going to use Poch's previous season to say Mourinho didn't improve Spurs, then that attached Pic is wrong because Ole has not improved Manchester United. He didn't guide us to a top 4 finish when he replaced Mourinho and in his first season, whilst he finished 3rd which isn't better than what Mou achieved, he was knocked out of the UCL in the group stage this season...

Mou finished 2nd with 81pts whilst with us, has Ole equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou won the UEL, has equaled or bettered that? No...

Mou took us past the group stage of the UCL, has Ole bettered that? No...

Mou won the Caraboa cup, has Ole bettered that? No...

If you are saying Mou didn't better Poch after replacing him by using Poch's previous season best, then we have no model for which to judge Mou as he has not had a full season with Spurs because he was still in with a chance to make the top 4 and win the Caraboa cup...

I know you will likely read the above and still argue but this is the most I can do...

So after almost 3 years and almost £300m spent, the PE teacher hasn’t outperformed Mourinho in any progressive metric?

Scenes when “Good Ebening” put Ole in the mud in the Europa final.

patrickmuf:
Their form has been atrocious and I read that Wednesday were penalized with point deduction else Derby deserves to go down...

Congrats to them all the same.

And Lampard almost got Derby to the Premier League.

Rooney needs intensive coaching lessons from Pochettino.

adebayo201:
Whichever way you want to consider it, Mourinho's and Ryan's time at Spur so far ain't palatable.

They won last week with same Bale scoring hatrick or so, people were out saying he's better.

Today, he lost to Leeds who his predecessor Mourinho comfortably brushed aside.

Whichever way you want to look at it, as you're backing one, you're exposing the other side. Just know that Spur are shit.

Poch had almost 6 years to build this team though. It was his tactics, every player was the player he bought and he had imparted his mentality into them.

In those 6 years, Poch won nothing. Zero trophies!