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European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by illusion2: 12:32pm On Dec 20, 2010 |
I think we should just forget EPL this season and hope for something in the Europa. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islam Preaches Love! Hmmm! by illusion2: 12:27pm On Dec 20, 2010 |
tbaba1234: I’m happy you are raising this point. This is one of the reasons I spend a lot of time in the Islamic section. Rather than follow stereotypes, I try to understand Muslims point of view, it’s equally important that Muslims also spend time to research any assumption they have had or being told about Christianity and not take every fable hook, line & sinker. What you have just stated as per the holy Bible having ‘no original text to refer to’ is just like someone saying the Koran has no original text to refer to. How is this possible? There are more than 14,000 existing Old Testament manuscripts and fragments throughout the Middle East, Mediterranean and European regions that agree dramatically with each other. In addition, these texts agree with the Septuagint version of the Old Testament, which was translated from Hebrew to Greek some time during the 3rd century BC. The Dead Sea Scrolls, discovered in Israel in the 1940's and 50's, also provide phenomenal evidence for the reliability of the ancient transmission of the Jewish Scriptures (Old Testament) before the arrival of Jesus Christ. The manuscript evidence for the New Testament is also dramatic, with over 5,300 known copies and fragments in the original Greek, nearly 800 of which were copied before 1000 AD. Some manuscript texts date to the early second and third centuries, with the time between the original autographs and our earliest existing copies being a remarkably short 60 years. Interestingly, this manuscript evidence far surpasses the manuscript reliability of other ancient writings that we trust as authentic every day e.g Julius Caesar's "The Gallic Wars" (10 manuscripts remain, with the earliest one dating to 1,000 years after the original autograph); Pliny the Younger's "History" (7 manuscripts; 750 years elapsed); Thucydides' "History" (8 manuscripts; 1,300 years elapsed); Herodotus' "History" (8 manuscripts; 1,300 years elapsed); Sophocles (193 manuscripts; 1,400 years); Euripides (9 manuscripts; 1,500 years); and Aristotle (49 manuscripts; 1,400 years). tbaba1234: I don’t want to offend your sensibilities, I would have given you many more quotes of people who disagree with you on the prophet Mohammed, most recent of which was the Pope’s quote of the 14th Century Byzantine emperor-Manuel II Palaiologos. Christianity and Judaism (and possibly Islam too) have similar religio-political figures e.g David, Moses, Joshua, Samson etc. God prevented David from building a temple in his name because he had blood on his hands (1 Chronicles 22:7-9). The prophet is the example all Muslims follow & since he is one record of having fought wars involving loss of lives no matter how justifiable it may be , its only logical some of his followers will take it as licence to do this based on their own warped interpretation of what ‘justifiable’ is. My point is God is in Heaven & the fundamental purpose of serving/worshipping God is to make Heaven (or paradise), so why should we spend so much time on earthly things like war ,position, wealth, power ,wives etc? The intra-Arab tribal problems have now being made (by extension of Islam) a Nigerian issue. Politics should be localised and Heaven global IMO . tbaba1234: This is precisely my point. There is no country called ‘Islam’ you are a Nigerian, the Nigerian Army should have this responsibility. But when a Muslim based on the example of the prophet believes he needs to take up arms in the name of his ‘religion’, I have a problem with that one. The Palestinian issue, which seems to be the main source of most of the concerns of Muslims should not be a religious one as 20% of all Palestinians are Christians. Secondly it has an ethnic dimension – Arabs vs. non Arab Israeli. But when ‘soldiers of Allah’ decide to take this up in the name of Islam (a country that only existed during the caliphate period) this is where people like me have a problem. A good example of someone who strongly believes he’s following the path of the prophet is our own Farouk Abdulmuttalab from Funtua ,Katsina state. A state where over 60% live below the poverty line largely due to corrupt government systems. Rather than fight to help his own people, he feels obliged to help people of the non-existent ‘Islam State’ being oppressed by America and Israel tbaba1234: I was just joking as per Pakistanis as I have a few around me as well and i personally don’t go with stereotyping. However it is worthy of note that Pakistanis born or raised during the regime of General Zia (1977-1988) are probably the most radicalized Muslim generation in recent times as the General used Islam to impose himself on the people. Hence the propensity and willingness to ‘die or kill for Allah’ among a good number of them. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by illusion2: 10:37am On Dec 19, 2010 |
Hey bgees,whats up? Long time. Roy will likely go before the season ends. He doesn't have what it takes,I think. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islam Preaches Love! Hmmm! by illusion2: 10:36am On Dec 19, 2010 |
tbaba1234: This is interesting. I don't wanna take sides or anything,but aren't muslims the first to say christians have 'many versions' of the Bible? Now you appreciate the import of translation in fully apprecaiting the ancient texts. Anyway,I strongly believe majority of muslims are good loving people,I have concerns about the political life of the holy prophet Mohammed (pbuh). In my humble opinion if he had remained strictly a spiritual leader,things would have indeed being different. My second point is that I hear muslims talk about the Quran forbidding the killing of 'innocent people' ? I'm just curious,who determines if someone is 'innocent' ? As far as Osama Bin Hiding is concerned - all american citizens are culpable because they pay taxes to their government which in turn perpertuates all the 'atrocities' all over the world,so they are not innocent hence can be killed according to the dictates of the holy Koran. This is the same opinion of the Taliban and most Pakistanis[i](probably the most s.tupid people on earth )[/i]. So tell me who determines if someone is 'innocent' ? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Islam Preaches Love! Hmmm! by illusion2: 2:16pm On Dec 18, 2010 |
Lets love okay. Muslim-Christian ,Shia-sunni, Believer-Atheist, Sango worshipper etc. Love ! |
Islam for Muslims / Please Where Is Olabowale ? by illusion2: 2:11pm On Dec 18, 2010 |
I had been meaning to ask. Someone please respond. Thanks. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia-islam-what Do You Know Or Would Like To Know? by illusion2: 1:54pm On Dec 18, 2010 |
I hope no one was blown up in Pakistan during the procession Those Sunni Pakis are probably the most s.tupid people on earth |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia-islam-what Do You Know Or Would Like To Know? by illusion2: 12:48am On Dec 18, 2010 |
Powerful pictures brother. Keep them coming. . . |
Politics / Re: Lets Face It : Nigeria Is Moving At The Pace The Hausa Fulani Want ! by illusion2: 12:36am On Dec 18, 2010 |
Dede1:Typical semi-literate |
Politics / Re: Will Gov. Fashola Of Lagos Get 2nd Term Ticket? by illusion2: 5:15pm On Dec 16, 2010 |
adekampe:You'll need to convince me you're not a school certificate holder ! Firstly the NBA doesn't award the SAN,so your slanderous statement that Tinubu begged them to give him SAN is not only false but without foundation. Secondly how can you say 'all he can brandish is his SAN' . . eh Is your Banire not a lawyer? Why isn't he a SAN? The man -Fashola became probably the youngest SAN in the history of Nigeria at the age of 40 years & you're saying 'all he can brandish is SAN' ? SAN na beans? I beg take your time o ! Its easy to give a dog a bad name to hang it,but do not question the guys intelligence. His performance has been widely credited. His problem with people like you - Tinubu louts is that he has refused to open up the state coffers for Tinubu's pan-Yoruba aspirations,. I can guarantee you -Banire or Ikuforiji will do same if and when they get there. Its normal. Tinubu fought the Ijebu elders that installed him in 1999,didn't he? So lets stop the name calling. EKO O NI BAJE O !! FASHOLA PLEASE CARRY GO. . . we dey kampe behind you. . . . . O ju ma ti eleya ! |
Politics / Re: Ex Governor Abubakar Audu Renders Wife And Kids Homeless In Sub-zero Temperature by illusion2: 12:29pm On Dec 15, 2010 |
ifyalways:No mind the woman. I know Audu personally & he's the most arrogant SOB you can ever imagine. His commisioners could only approach him genuflecting |
Politics / Re: Will Gov. Fashola Of Lagos Get 2nd Term Ticket? by illusion2: 11:37am On Dec 15, 2010 |
The only problem I have with Banire is that he speaks English like an Area boy high on 'igbo' But seriously,PDP will capture Lagos is Fashola doesn't get a second term. Once political parties implode internally their opponents benefit. Muiz should wait for his turn. . .as for Ikuforiji. . . . no comments |
Politics / Re: Ex Governor Abubakar Audu Renders Wife And Kids Homeless In Sub-zero Temperature by illusion2: 11:32am On Dec 15, 2010 |
safariman: |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia-islam-what Do You Know Or Would Like To Know? by illusion2: 8:34am On Dec 14, 2010 |
LagosShia:Its interesting how human beings easily lose perspective on issues. Imagine a Shia muslim who constantly faces discrimination from fellow (sunni) muslims for his beliefs,try to cast aspersions on another person's faith ("your acclaimed god". The story of Imam Hussain is really about the victory of patience over oppresion , love over aggression and humility over confrontation -a universal lesson which has been often quoted by the great Indian leader -Mahatma Gandhi (a Hindu). So I'll advise you stay within the scope of your remit- expantiate on Shia theology & do not be distracted into bringing down our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ,no genuine believer would. |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Shia-islam-what Do You Know Or Would Like To Know? by illusion2: 3:29pm On Dec 12, 2010 |
Dear LagosShia, Thank you for all your enlightenening posts,I'm still reading through each link & watching each Youtube video,I just thought I should spare a few lines in your defence. The problem with us in Nigeria (muslims & christians) is that we have been brought up to defend our beliefs aggressively & never leave room for intellectual discourse,historical arguments & cross referencing of facts. So rather than castigate the 'blasphemer' LagosShia,what I expect 'rightly guided' sunnis to do is tackle/disprove all his points intelligently. This 'don't spread our linen in public' nonesense needs to stop ! . . . . . .This is the internet age for crying out loud. . . . nothing is hidden . Go to the christian thread,you'll find Grail message ,christ embassy,catholic ,jehovah's witness boku there - everyone believing their sect (or section) is God's gift to the world. So in a nutshell- lets stop getting emotional about issues- its is a given that we will not always agree both on politics,religion or government policy,but for God's sake let us argue intelligently (with facts). Afterall none of us was actually there when all these thing were said to have occured. Lagos/KwaraShia or karbala . . . I beg fire on. grabs an English copy of the Koran,online version of hadiths & popcorn |
Politics / Re: Nigeria’s Airports Most Embarrassing – Mark by illusion2: 12:53pm On Dec 09, 2010 |
Mr Senate President,go & tell that to the marines ! Your monthly allowance for 1 year is sufficient to rehabilitate MMA. Show leadership on this one & stop posturing. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by illusion2: 9:33am On Dec 08, 2010 |
@bgees,whats happening? |
Nairaland / General / Re: Celebrating Olubusayo Awomolo ( Bawomolo) by illusion2: 2:44pm On Dec 06, 2010 |
Really sad indeed. A good kid . |
Politics / Re: A Novena For Governor Patrick Ibrahim Yakowa Of Kaduna State by illusion2: 1:53pm On Dec 05, 2010 |
Good piece,one cannot really blame the man. As rightly observed,many muslims do not seperate politics from their religion,so he needs to tread carefully in such a volatile state. Ovularia: The learned professor did not win a Nobel,I think he won the Nigerian Academy of Science award sponsored by LNG. |
European Football (EPL, UEFA, La Liga) / Re: Liverpool FC Fan Zone: Champions of England by illusion2: 1:13pm On Dec 05, 2010 |
We should run over Villa and get things back on track again. . . .everybody say "AYE" 1 Like |
Celebrities / Re: Kefee (brainamah) And Her Husband Alec by illusion2: 10:33am On Dec 04, 2010 |
Really sad |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 7:47am On Dec 01, 2010 |
^^^^ Nice one. Its really interesting,the debate on how documents prepared centuries ago,affects our 21st century life. |
Autos / Re: Fg Increase Bar On Used Vehicles Aka Tokunbo- 15years Max by illusion2: 2:27pm On Nov 30, 2010 |
igochopur$: The textile industry is dead in Nigeria not because of smugglers,but largely due to lack of power (E-L-E-C-T-R-I-C-I-T-Y). You can't run that kind of business on diesel . So the FG has done the right thing ! There's enormous demand,so why restrict supply? Govt don dey get sense for naija ! |
Islam for Muslims / Re: As-sudais Friday Sermon Stirs Millions by illusion2: 2:25pm On Nov 28, 2010 |
uplawal:Uplawal,surely it is the Holy Spirit that has revealed this to you.I see a convergence between us somehow. , sometime . . . .Salaam |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 2:18pm On Nov 28, 2010 |
uplawal:Stress ke ? |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 6:06am On Nov 28, 2010 |
@Lagosboy or any other learned ustaz,please help me with this. I have always been informed that it is haram for women to pray in front of or around men- both for moral & spirutual reasons. However during the hajj,I see pictures of this happening rampantly i.e women doing salat near the Ka'abba with men all around them. Now tell me is this right? Are these women not defiling the poor men postrating to Allah behind them?? Thank you for your enlightenment. |
Politics / Re: Lagos Lawmakers Vote N348m For Cars, Each Member Gets N8.7 Million by illusion2: 7:40pm On Nov 26, 2010 |
Eko ti baje o . . . . . |
Politics / Re: Lagos Lawmakers Vote N348m For Cars, Each Member Gets N8.7 Million by illusion2: 11:19am On Nov 26, 2010 |
Eko ti baje o . . . . . |
Islam for Muslims / Re: Curious About Islam,facts About Islam. by illusion2: 8:47pm On Nov 23, 2010 |
Hey people. I think I have gotten to the bottom of the Muki vs Uplawal saga. Its all becos of me ! I chose Muki over Uplawal a few weeks back & she obviously isn't happy about it. Forget all the "good muslima's don't put on jeans, weave on' deceptions - Uplawal wants & needs it big time My message to Uplawal,- I can keep you both,ok ? |
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