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ollah1:
You know what to do when you are ready to answer the question.

You do know that Jesus is the son of God right? So what is wrong with a son calling His father?

spacetacular:
I often try to be a person of few words so i will keep it short with you. I can see you have personal demons eating you up. Why on earth would you dedicate an entire page to me out of anger over a simple discussion we had yesterday? I do not think i came across as rude or condescending to you yesterday so why are you this hurt?

I remember asking you a question which you never responded to. Even now you have not responded to it but you have the time and the nerve to rudely chase after everyone who tries to hold a conversation with you. You insult at every turn and feel you are emotionally stable? I doubt if you are and i say this with deep concern.

High blood pressure kills and so does brain aneurysm. You really need to get yourself looked at.

I wonder why you think i am the person you liken me to but i am not. Why would a newbie such as i am cause you this much torment? If a newbie would do this to you then i wonder what the older people here have caused you? That is why i speak from the heart to you sir. Go get yourself looked at.

I predicted this would happen didn't I? Just ignore him. I believe there are more intelligent people here to have a discussion with.

ollah1:
I asked a simple question. What has maturity got to do with that?

I asked if you want to have a mature discussion because many Muslims I see here tend to run off when there is heat. But if you are willing to discuss, then I will answer your question is the clearest way possible

ollah1:
Lol. He told you that himself? Why did he say this on the cross "father forgive them cos they know not what they are doing"?

Sir, are we willing to engage in a mature discussion? If your answer is yes, then we I will reply your question and we can start from there.

Leiman100:
you couldn't stop laughing any you couldn't counter her points too?

Counter what points? Those points? If you call those points then sir I must admit you are quite shallow to believe that is enough reason for one to abandon her faith. The Word Bible was not in the Bible. How is that a point? How is that even relevant? Jesus was not a Christian. Christian means Christlike or follower of Christ, will Jesus follow himself? Jesus never went to church, how can he go to church when He is the Church? Do you even understand what you read in the Bible? And is there anywhere that Jesus went to a mosque? Was it recorded ever that he prayed five times a day? Did he ever mention that he was a Muslim? I can't even waste my time educating you lot on the things of God. Sir, if you are ready to learn, engage me and I will teach you why those points are silly.

hakeem4shi:
This is where our problem starts as a nation. She converts and give verifiable reasons as to why she converts. You roast her for doing so. But xtians can do anything to convert a Muslim , even when you evade his or privacy, he/she will be going to heaven straight away after conversion. Please learn to tolerate one another. There is no law that says she can't convert, and last I check , xtians converts more Muslim.

Sir, there is no law that says she can't convert from Christian to Muslim. But how about converting from Muslim to Christian? Is there any law guarding that in your religion?

abatisegun:
. Whatvis ther e in Quran 4 34 unless u r taking it meaning out of context

Out if what context? Please read it and explain to me yourself. You are the Muslim expert.

vic155:
NO! Qur'an mentioned beating once and consider it the last option. Moreso the beating is not like injuring ur women, is just inform of warning not to repeat what she did

So beating is an option In the Koran?
Infact let us not go far.
Sahih al-Bukhari 5825—Narrated Ikrima: Rifaa divorced his wife whereupon Abdur-Rahman married her. Aisha said that the lady came wearing a green veil and complained to her (Aisha) and showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating. It was the habit of ladies to support each other, so when Allah’s messenger came, Aisha said, “I have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her skin is greener than her clothes!”
A woman was beaten in you Hadith till her skin turned green. Aisha even confessed she hasn't seen women suffer like the believing women. Tell me again that it isn't about injuring your women??

SillyMods:
Counter her reasons and stop being empty upstairs.

The reasons are too shallow. Way too shallow. I don't even know where to start. Do you even know what "Bible" means? And what has "Bible" not being in the Bible got to do with anything? Is it not the same Bible your Koran referenced and asked all of you to go to if you are in doubt? I have more serious issues on my plate than contesting points that don't even make any sense.

Mujaheeeden:
Who else Laughed at those Islamic English

Its so common with them. They spend all their time and effort learning Arabic so they can fully understand a book that they claim was meant for everyone in the world even when everyone in the world doesn't speak Arabic.

ollah1:
You might be right. Christians worship Jesus while Muslims worship God.

Jesus is God

bamidelee:
then hell fire is your abode permanently
one thing about Christian is they claimed to read Quran and pick up what suits their ignorance, they close their eyes to those verses where ALlaah was asking Jesus and his mother "were you the one that instructed them to call you god and replied no, they are your servants do them as you wish "
let me tell you something at this juncture
the mother of your lord is going to be the wife of our prophet Muhammad on the day of judgment
our prophet had explained to us the second coming of Christ, where his going to land, what his coming back to do and lots more. so dey there dey deceive yourself

Wait, wait, wait! So after marrying 11 wives, Muhammad is going to marry Mary too? Wow

bamidelee:
bros use your sense
ALlaah has taught us many ways of dealing with women nicely but if they didn't yield beat them. Beating there is not beating like an animal
No religion is gives women their rites and put them in high esteem like Islam.
I would still ask you this question again show me biblical references tell you that Christ called you pple Christian
where it told you to go to church and going to the church on Sundays
again am asking you is Jesus a Jew or Christian

So are you telling me to Koran encourages beating of women? Yes or no?

Pastafarian:
oh sorry, you haven't been filled in, I'm Hopefullandlord, this is my alternate monicker which I use when I get banned


the topic you're talking about proves I have knowledge, someone who doesn't wouldn't create such a thread

https://www.nairaland.com/3567239/true-christian-lets-ask-some

You can always expose that lack of knowledge by posting there bro

Oh! You are HopefulLandlord! Shoot me! You got banned? Hahahahahahaha. I have never gotten banned before so it still sounds strange to me when I hear people get banned. Anyway, you have knowledge of Christianity but it is superficial at best. That doesn't count in my faith. When you have the fundamental knowledge of what my faith is all about, then you will understand how silly that thread was.
On a side note, you are like the only atheist I truly respect on here. I'm a big fan.

KingEbukasBlog:
I would have called sir plaetton but you can crush him in a debate with your eyes closed . Any theist anywhere in the world can crush an atheist in a debate . You just need to know the right things and ask the right questions .

Atheism is empty .

So empty my brother. They don't even know what they believe.

Pastafarian:
the only thread you'll be talking about was when I saw the fruitless adventure of debate in my earlier Nairaland days, I then decided to leave the religion section but got mails from strange people telling me that I'm not there to win debates, I got wisdom from them and I've changed my debate ways since then

all other thread I've opened are still there and they're all very reasonable

Maybe I am a NL novice (trust me, I still don't know my way around properly) but I can only see 1 topic created on your profile. And I read it and I laughed because honestly there was a lot of humour. But your argument is shallow in the extreme and it simply proves you lack knowledge of what you try to criticize.
Mails from strange people? You mean your fellow atheists? They need the numbers you know. They can't afford to lose you.

analice107:
Pride is actually responsible for their behaviours.

And proud people can hardly accept defeat.

Wait, i like CatfishBilly somehow o. He maintained the discourse and never insulted Spacetacular personally.

If you followed their exchange from the first thread he created about the dead coming back to life, it was just a normal discussion. She mentioned she was a paramedic and he got interested. He even claimed that was the best debate he had had on NL. Then the mad man miracle and out brother came out trying to discredit her and call her a mere paramedic. That was when she got defensive and tried to call him out also. But all in all, he didn't result to petty insults like our brother Thomas and his likes.

Pastafarian:
he still posts from time to Tims but has stopped posting much cuz he's realised his threads are very shallow

I just went through your one thread on nairaland. Can't believe you will call someone shallow when that is all you can offer. I laughed at the thread though. It was funny in a weird kind of way, but it just goes to show you have limited knowledge of what you criticize. Winner01 is legend here in my opinion and none you can touch him in a matured debate. Drink water and sleep my brother.

KingEbukasBlog:
Do not fret . He is fine and well , thank God . But we all miss him

Thank God.

KingEbukasBlog:
The guy is very shallow and unintelligent , what do you expect from such people ?

Eskus sir.
Please do you have an idea where Winner01 is? Before I started commenting on NL, I used to read his threads constantly. Hope he is fine? I really do miss him.

analice107:
That will be Johnnydon22. He will face the Op and not insult you, or may be Hopefullanlord sometimes o, not all the time.

Thank you dear. I will know the ones to avoid from now henceforth.

analice107:
You are really intimidated by that girl. My God!!!

So painfully obvious. Wonder if he slept at all last night.

BrutalJab:
Why should he edit it




If those are the reasons the mumu wan join Islam, let her go.

You can't convert a six year with those points. Its just painful to see

kennygee:
She was never a Christian.

Its possible she was. But a very shallow one. Those reasons cant even convert a six year old. I have seen way stronger arguments and i am still not moved.

aminusanti:
Why all these cherry picking?
Thats why sometimes I find it hard replying you on time bcus you like recycling questions and you only pick what you want and throw away what you dislike! Will never reach to any conclusion with this kind of approach..
* why are u twisting the quranic verse your way ?
* @ bold "to go to the people of the book" for what?

Sir, Surah 10:94 - 95. And if thou (Muhammad) art in doubt concerning that which We reveal unto thee, then question those who read the Scripture (that was) before thee. Verily the Truth from thy Lord hath come unto thee. So be not thou of the waverers. And be not thou of those who deny the revelations of Allah, for then wert thou of the losers.
My question is, what Book (scripture) was Allah talking about? And how am I cherry picking? I am giving you the part I have grievance with.

CatfishBilly:
The girl was the one close to a miracle like I said.
You call people frantically working hard to save someone from a car accident a miracle?
Isn't it possible that the first fire team called the 2nd fire team to bring better tools when they found out that their tools ain't working?
There were 2 cases of Autoresuscitation, already covered that.
A case of someone waking up from coma, which is not a medical miracle, people wake up from coma all the time, the most recent one that comes to mind is Michael Schumacher the F1 driver.
Anything else you want me to analyze for you?

Sir, you didn't watch those videos. When you do, come back to me. Have a nice day

analice107:
Yeah. this is what you are known for, insults, but kid, i won't come down to your level.

I wouldn't respond to you if you hadn't quoted me. Now take your intelligence and face Spacetacular who knows how fake and unintelligent you really are.
Like i said, face your fellow.

I wonder the source of that dude's anger? Promised myself never to quote him again even though I am tempted to respond to some his ignorant and hateful posts. Go see the embarrassing thread he created for Spacetacular! I mean, the lady hasn't even been on nairaland for three days! She really hit them hard I actually feel for them. Especially the Thomas dude.

LifestyleTonite:
That was a copied post pasted according to how it was originally written. check the source for the link.

Saw that post earlier on Facebook and reading it is just painful. Hence, it should have been edited at least for the errors.

CatfishBilly:
I didn't ignore it, go back, I analysed the first video, the one 19 minutes long. Go back and look at my analysis.

Analysed? Oga you only made two line sentence and you call that analysis? You said only the first one withe the little girl coming back to life looked believable or something like that. You did no analysis. And note! Those miracles weren't done by "yahoo yahoo pastors". Go back, watch them and give me a rational explanation as the medical practitioner that you are.

CatfishBilly:
Now you're grasping at straws,
Thats the best you can come up with?
Do Dentists graduate with MD degree in your village?
Go and download an MDCN license from the internet naa let me see you. Be talking out of ignorance.
bye hater, it's nice knowing you. I don't blame you Sha, it's something with theists though, refuting clear evidence.
Intellectually dishonest bunch.
I cancelled out the personal information but my folio number and registration number is there. If you want you can verify that from MDCN website.
Alternatively, you could politely ask me my name.

Coming from someone who totally ignored the videos posted by the "mere paramedic" on this thread. How come none of you are talking about it?

enshy:
If this is true, Ild love both!
spacetacular+felixomor carry on...The Lord is your strength!
No one will succeed in pulling you down.
He who digs a pit will fall therein.
Welldone ilynem! God uphold you

Thank you sir

bennyann:
Thank God it's not you.

It was so obvious it wasn't easy on them and this thread is the evidence.

Brother Akin

I told Spacetacular there will be thread dedicated to her real soon. Didn't even expect it to be this early. These guys are just too petty. Anyone know where I can find matured atheists for a reasonable debate?