₦airaland Forum

@jamace
kindly use your hands then.lol.what's your experience?

@bindex
I did not dismiss m_nwankwo,please stop misspelling the brova's name.I explained to him why Adam and Eve were not subject to genetic errors and homogeneity.
B T W, get your facts right.Geology attests to even more than one global flood.and breaking news to you,the chinese are Noah's boys.

@davidylan
lol.The hands of law may catch up with him soon.

@bindex
where are the scientific FACTS.show us and stop telling stories.Leave story for religious people.Produce your well beloved facts and stop making assertions out of probability and extrapolation

Is there anybody to tell us his/her experience in the exam hall

@ow11
oral examinations,I've never thought of that.That would be a good one at least to start with.I think that would probably reduce malpractice by more than 50% already.But then we have those who bribe with money and body.that's a good suggestion.I wish the appropriate authorities could here this.

@ow11
hello,see I'm not saying I know all.no.But they're not the only ones that studied science.All I'm doing is putting their 'talk' under scrutiny,and the lapses are clear.Let me give you a scenario of what scientists are saying about man's history.They stumble on human relics in some cave,take the rocks around the remains and go to date it.Then they get some figure which is supposed to be the age of the rock and tell us 'this relic was here when this rock was formed about 10000 years ago'.And they assert that.Imagine,something which is a speculation is turned to an assertion and printed on science reports.some get lucky,they might see a pollen grain around the relic.Then they say waoh,cavemen used to bury their dead with flowers.That's the way they build all the fables with little details around.That to me is not enough evidence,but just a creative mind who may make more money in hollywood.Then they begin to compare dates of different relics found and conclude o,the earliest man is found in Southern Africa.He was walking with his back bent and speaking pidgin.without much ado,the science world applauds the discovery.That's just about how most of this history of man is done.And I'm supposed to believe that when I have a more sure word of prophecy.It's not done

@bindex
who turned you to a moderator?I think you should be looking for evidence to show that man was around and bubbling in China during the time of the flood.

@m_nwankwo
haha,so now we're asking for real evidence from you and then you suddenly feel only a Ph.D holder in genetics engineering will understand.So its now becoming an esoteric thing.share it with us now.That's what scientists do.They try to provide undeniable evidence.Evidence to show from a 'machine' that man came from subsaharan Africa

@all
This may not be prevalent in other places but in Nigeria,examination malpractice has become a STANDARD procedure. I noticed that even,there's hardly pastor or bro/sis in the examhall again sef. In some sorry cases where there are,its a pastors 'collabo'. The 'pastors' are teaching only themselves right in the examhall. Many of those people at the back of the examhall having different formations,different styles and smuggling the textbooks into the hall or in the toilet are professing christians.They go to church on sunday and may even give testimony in their school fellowship when results come out.It's just normal to them.How can we correct this?Is it possible for you,reader as an individual to do without it? Tell us your experience and advice.

@all
This may not be prevalent in other places but in Nigeria,examination malpractice has become a STANDARD procedure. I noticed that even,there's hardly pastor or bro/sis in the examhall again sef. In some sorry cases where there are,its a pastors 'collabo'. The 'pastors' are teaching only themselves right in the examhall. Many of those people at the back of the examhall having different formations,different styles and smuggling the textbooks into the hall or in the toilet are professing christians.They go to church on sunday and may even give testimony in their school fellowship when results come out.It's just normal to them.How can we correct this?Is it possible for you,reader as an individual to do without it? Tell us your experience and advice.

@bindex
hi,It's good to see that you're beginning to understand my point.That's the christian's way.It's the way of faith.We don't wait for God to write 'I AM GOD' boldly in the sky before we believe.we're not shaky when you ask for us to provide evidence of God.We know God,we've without doubt seen Him work in our lives and in the life of others,so much that we know that He is able to do all things.Unfortunately,your own foundation is not on faith but on sight.thats what you call evidence.What we christians call evidence is what we say you cannot understand except you're born of God.The EVIDENCE of things not seen.that is faith.It's an evidence that is more valid,clearer than things seen.I repeat,you may not understand until you're born again.Through faith,we understand.We understand that the world was framed by the word of God.That is our evidence.You're trying to counter it by evidence.Sad enough,you have no evidence but just extrapolations and possibilities.Guesswork from studies of fossils.Thats not good enough.you're the ones so particular about site evidence.The responsibility is on you to show us real evidence,not cunningly devised fables of cavemen holding spears and walking awkwardly.

January 14 Psalm 14:2
2. The Lord looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if there were any that did understand, and seek God.

Every parent has a level of expectation for their children.No matter how rich or poor the parent might be.No matter how close or seperate the parent and the children may be.There's still this level of desire.This level of expectation from/for the children.Even a dying parent has some expectation for their children.A dying mother at childbirth is seen giving last wishes(expectations) for her baby.How much more the living parent. There's desire that the child choose a good course,marry a good spouse,have children,not fall sick,do well in school,excel in career etc. God also desires/expects something from the children of men. He's looking for any that understands and seeks God. Some religious people today preach that God cannot be understood.Some say God cannot be sought for,that only God can seek for you and that He already has a list of people who He will seek for.No,GOD wants us to understand Him.He gives us His Son,so that we can understand Him.He gives us His Holy Spirit,so that we can understand Him.He wants us to seek Him.Seek the Lord while He may be found.Let's fulfill His joy.Let's seek Him.Seek and ye shall find.Let's understand Him.Only believe.

@m_nwankwo
It seems you do not understand the basics of christians.It is faith.Believing.The evidence of things not seen.Our foundation is on believing God,walking by faith not by sight.It is scientists and people like you and bindex that depend on evidence as their chief source,their foundation,their belief.So you see,we're comfortable without physical evidence.You're the one that is not.Our faith is built on trust in God.We see what He is doing,we believe what our fathers said He did.We can easily say/infer that He did this in my time,sure He could have done what my fathers said He did.And we've found His Word infallible.On the other hand,'science' sees us as unreasonable.Suprisingly,they're building all their theories on belief,not on evidence.Please explain to layboys like me how a gene will tell you that your fathers came from subsaharan Africa.where is the evidence that you're so fast to cry out for from us.We're aware of the benefits of science,there's no point putting me up against it.But tell us,how can one see a relic,take fragments that human eye cannot see and begin to tell us that this man lived in the rocks,ate so so food,used paper.where is the proof.How scientific is that.If you say that in another religion,its understandable.But for scientists to give fairy tale stories,that's not scientific enough

@OLAADEGBU
How I pray that the likes of Sergius Paulus could increase in the world,in our country and on nairaland.The likes of Barjesus would reduce and others would be drawn to the Lord.Even so,come Lord Jesus

@kola oloye
huxley has 'taken his time' to read 1Corinthians5.so what's the lesson there sir?

@huxley
DON'T BE SILLY.

@m_nwankwo
so i'm supposed to provide Adam and Eve's remains for DNA tests.well that's a tall order.count me out.and don't be too suprised if in 10years,an invention comes out that makes a complete mockery of the ones presently been used for DNA studies.What stories do genes tell you.all speculation.Can gene study tell you how old your grandfather was?The way scientists go about this gene thing with all the fairy tale.genes don't lie.You're looking at someone's skull and you're talking about the tools he used,where he lived and how he walked 10000yrs ago! Thats all speculation,no truth in all that but It's celebrated all over science world.So much for science fiction.

@bindex
don't confuse yourself.so the chinese were bubbling during the time of Noah's ark.you were with them in spirit abi.Don't just come here and feed us with untraceable lies.are there documents to attest to that as a matter of fact?Do the times correlate?I hope you're not building on what stories even the chinese know/agree to be fables and legends.

January 13 Acts 13v7
7. Which was with the deputy of the country, Sergius Paulus, a prudent man; who called for Barnabas and Saul, and desired to hear the word of God.

The Bible says 'all OUR righteousness are like filthy pair'.Seek God and HIS righteousness.That is where Life is.That is the Original. Sergius Paulus was a good man.He was better than many people today. He was a prudent man,an intelligent fellow,a sensible person.He wasn't more intelligent than necessary.You see,some people are too intelligent to believe God,but not Sergius Paulus.He wouldn't take such unnecessary risks. He called for Barnabas and Saul.Think about that.That's a prudent man.If Paul&Barnabas would not go to SergiusPaulus,SergiusPaulus would call for Barnabas&Paul. Some people today are too rich,too knowledgeable,even too religious to listen to real men of God.They wouldn't hear the word of Life even if they were invited.They'll prefer to hear what they want to hear,but not Sergius Paulus.He DESIRED to hear the Word of God. This man's qualifications beat many hands down already.Yet,he was not yet born again. The major lesson is that it's not enough to be intelligent,or to call for real men of God,or to desire to hear the word of God. It's not enough to love your pastor or holy bishops around and to buy their messages. Are YOU saved? Are you doing more than Sergius Paulus?

Thank you

Don't mind them huxley.

@anonimi
It's either you're a very funny personality or a phoney one.

@bindex
the burden of proof lies on me to show you that the chinese descended from Adam?you must be kidding I'm sure.Let me repeat this to help you.Neither I nor any christian owes you such explanations.You search the Scriptures.Adam gave birth to children.Some of them migrated to China,how difficult is that.And you believe the Bible must contain the name China to make it complete.How ridiculous.The Bible is not a geographical atlas or a world census document.It contains what is relevant for our relationship with God and our happy stay on earth.

@m_nwankwo
Hello,I've read your post.I'm aware of and understand most of what you wrote.My stand is that the word of God is infallible.Why?Because I've found God to be always right.we've earlier discussed on the fallibility of man's research and its many revisions and postulations.My arguement about incest is that God did not give man the law before Moses.and the Bible makes me to understand that where there is no law,there is no sin.some have been talking about God contradicting Himself,but I've been against that.
Incest doesn't have much to do with the attributes of God.The law was made for men,not for God.It was made to help men as you well know.now,you said 'the intrinsic nature of the creations cannot be changed even by the Creator'. I disagree with that.God is the immutable One,not the creations/creature.The clay has no say.The Potter can do whatever He pleases with it.He can turn a rod into a serpent irrespective of DNA.He can bring water from rock and from fossils.With God all things are possible.You're trying hard to make God so big that you end up limiting Him. Now also,scientists think that for successful propagation of species,errors within the DNA should be minimal.I want to tell or remind you that Adam was not created with errors of any kind.He was created very good,perfect.At present,man is in a fallen state.Infact,he struggles to live for 80years.Adam and Eve had all that was required for successful replication of species.That is not too hard for God to do.

@anonimi
on second thoughts,I'll respond to your post.Please this is religion section not comedy section.you got me laughing with your post.
Check up your reply to dafidxone about 4 anonimi posts away.Among other things,you said and I quote

why are you passing your rotten and ROTTING banana.
You have made that distinction already BUT CONTINUE ON THE ROAD TO PERDITION and seek to DRAG OTHERS along with you.

then you declared peace by saying Shalom.Peace on the road to perdition.I expected that you'll at least re check what you posted but no,you seemed too sure of yourself.There's need for self examination 'even if' you're right.examine yourself if you're in the faith.

@tarezulu
if you'd read my posts calmly and not just itching to reply,you'll see that I didn't say that God changed the law.The law against 'incest' was not changed.Why is this english not clear to you?THERE WAS NO LAW.if you find one given in the bible,please paste it.Where there's no law,there's no sin/offence.
@bindex
Please how has science clearly demonstrated that humans could not descend from Adam? Postulations and graphical extrapolations are not proofs of nothing.

January 12      Hebrews 12:1
1. Wherefore, seeing we also are compassed about with so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight,and the sin which doth so easily beset us, and let us run with patience the race that is set before us.
Have you noticed that people do things differently when they're alone as compared to when there are some people around as compared to when a multitude is around? Take for instance singing or playing alone,singing or playing before ten people,singing or playing before 10,000. In anything that is done,there's usually a marked difference.
Today,many live their lives as if they're alone.They are like "at least nobody is here,even the ones here approve of what I'm doing". But our Today's passage sees it differently.At EVERY point,we're surrounded by a great cloud of witnesses.When you think you're alone,or just two.When you think 'who will know'. When the place is dark and when the place is bright.We are compassed about with witnesses,SO great a cloud of witnesses.They're taking note.Whether you're doing good or evil.Whether you're faithful or unfaithful.They're there. Witnesses.Let's live every moment of life with the awareness of witnesses.

@okija_juju and ow11
I believe we're on the same plane on this issue.As I earlier said,my post was not to criticize or encourage them.I just explained reasons why they and the missionaries charge differing amounts.It majorly depends on the motive.sincerely speaking some of the churches' motive for building some of their schools is for profit.whether such motive is right or wrong is another thing but that's what happens.The real church is not originally a charity organisation or a business centre.It is a congregation of God's people preparing for heaven and preaching the good news.Their delve into extra curricular activities is a personal denomination's decision

@poster
hello,well I think you need to consider the purpose and the motive. I'm not intending to criticize or encourage church schools by this post.I'm just considering the issue sincerely.Firstly,It needs to be emphasized that good education does not run solely on oxygen anywhere on earth.Funds are involved.We're on earth,not in heaven.The source of the funding of the school is what may differ.The mission schools you referred to were funded by generous people in europe.Even before the missionary sets off for his/her journey and during their stay here.The primary aim of the missionaries was to bring christianity here.hospitals,schools etc were some of the encouragements used and also for community development.Churches today also have a aim of winning converts.today,building schools is not one of their methods of encouragement.They have other forms of bringing in converts. Now Jesus has not mandated the church to go and build schools but to go and preach the good news.building schools is a personal decision by the church(es).So if they want to,they can decide not to collect money or to collect money.So it's more about the motive.If they make it cheap,there will be people who will subsidize it,maybe members or 'partners'.If there's no subsidy,the student pays for the running of the school.It depends on the decision and the motive for building.Some churches use the schools to generate funds,sooo.Some have the vision of been among the best schools.You need to secure best staff and best everything with money,so you choose who'll pay for it.The church members or the students.It could fall either way.I don't think there are hard or fast rules to it.

January 11 John 11v4,5
4. When Jesus heard that,he said, This sickness is not unto death,but for the glory of God,that the Son of God might be glorifed thereby.
5. Now Jesus loved Martha,and her sister,and Lazarus.
Does Jesus care when my heart is pained
Too deeply for mirth and song:
As the burdens press and the cares distress,
And the way grows weary and long?

O yes,He cares,I know He cares
His heart is touched with my grief:
When the days are weary,the long nights dreary,
I know my Saviour cares.

Whatever your situation at the moment.No matter how down or weak or poor you may feel.Whatever the sickness or the report,whatever your request,I'm happy to tell you that Jesus has heard you. When Jesus heard that,He said, This sickness is not unto death,but for the glory of God,that the Son of God might be glorified thereby. Put your trust in God, Jesus loves YOU.

@bindex
so you really prayed that I should be chanced to reply you today?smart guy.lol
so it really still beats your imagination that the yorubas migrated from Asia.waoh.You need archeological evidence.Go and do yoruba history mr.They migrated.nobody proved that Adam didn't give birth to humanity.There was talk about chromosomes and its siblings.And m_nwankwo agreed to the flaws in science' research.He is a scientist.You can reread the discussion.This is common sense,why are you asking such questions.Villages start from families all over the continent in various instances.A couple produces 8kids,8kids produce 24.Thats already 30+. And so on and so forth.Communities become villages,to towns to cities and empires.etc.

So it really beats your imagination that the yorubas migrated from a non yoruba tribe in Asia.thats sad