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February 13 Hebrews 13v5,6

Heb 13:5 Keep your lives free from the love of money, and be satisfied with what you have. For God has said, "I will never leave you; I will never abandon you."
Heb 13:6 Let us be bold, then, and say, "The Lord is my helper, I will not be afraid. What can anyone do to me?" Good News Bible
Are you a christian,there's no need for you to be coveteous.There is no need to envy others or to be jealous of anybody.Be content with what you have.Be grateful to God for what you have.Think of it,you have the Bible always at your disposal. Not everybody has the Bible,not every one knows or believes in the Bible.You can communicate with God at anytime.Even now.At no cost. I remember Daniel communicating with God at the cost of the lion's den.Today,you have freedom.You can pray.You can make things to happen.You can move the hand that moves the world.You have God by yourself.The Father,the Son and the Spirit.Right there with you.He has said "I will never leave thee,nor forsake thee." He said so,that we
may boldly say.You can speak it.You can say it.The Word is already in your mouth and in your heart.Say it boldly!Say it with confidence.Say it in front of everybody.Say it now.The Lord is my helper.Greater is He that is in me.I will not fear.Whatever the boss may say,whatever my doctor may know,whatever my bank,my lecturer,my landlord,my rivals,the papers,the charts may tell me.I will not fear.God is with me.

@kunle
A church is also simply a gathering for worship.You could use the greek or the hebrew word or pick up a word from the thesaurus.Its all the same thing.Its common knowledge and understanding.The definition is not limited to what you're saying,thats why I said Jesus went to church

@paulipopo
[b]stop expressing your regrets to me.[/b]What,you're disappointed that I'm not gloating with you?sorry I'm secure in Christ and don't need anyone depressing me about the 'state of the church.' Have you ever thought of praying for them?for just one minute?Would be a better idea

okija juju
God is not a magician doing tricks and wonders so that you can clap and be amused.He has a bigger design than that

@BabeX
I think its a matter of how much the devil has spent time and resource dealing with the christian faith and pulling down the walls around us with a cloak of 'liberty'.You keep doing what is decent and pure and lovely and of good report,that not even the devil can counter.And keep praying for and correcting your christian friends.I should say however that the muslimms have learnt their dressing from tradition,which has become a culture in thre middle east.Their dressing is similar to the way christian women used to dress.The way their mother Sara taught them

Why do we keep arguing about things that do not matter?

Damnable heresies.Be watchful brethren

@paulipopo

@Image123 FYI

1. Jesus Christ founded the church after his resurrection

2. Jesus Christ taught and read scriptures in the synagogues where the pharisees also taught as doctors of the law or Rabbi

In any case no one is renouncing his faith by commenting on this topic in an open forum. The ones complaining are the ones who feel bad the truth is being let out

I guess you'll rather have us swallow the non-sense these false preachers preach than openly challenge them?

you're not openly challenging them.You're only depressing the minds of church goers and weak believers.The 'pastors' that you're busy insulting can not hear you.You go and speak to them personally where they will hear you if you have issues.Coming to murmur on nairaland doesn't help matters.

Wrong again sir, christ never attended a church in his life time the church was established after his death. What he used to attend was jewish temples and the faith that was being practised then was judaism. What he sought to do was to collect a lot of the wrongs the religious leaders of that time were indulging in, this same wrongs are now being practised by our own religious leaders today in a way far worse than the pharisees and saducees of that time

It seems you're limiting the meaning of church.A church is simply a building for public worship, especially in the Christian religion.Today,we have what is church of satan,church of this and that.Jesus attended a church/sunago/temple/synagogue/soonagogay.Its a gathering for worship

@kunleOshob

@Image 123
christians are free to pay 10% of their income or tithes to the church

Very well said KunleOshob

@bawomolo
Joh 11:40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
Don't be a doubter

February 12 Proverbs 12v11


Pro 11:14 Where there is no wisdom, the people fall; but in the multitude of wise men there is safety.

We've looked at something similarpreviously in Proverbs 28, I heard that repitition is for emphasis. It means that this is pretty important.Isn't it? King Solomon was rich.Very rich.And he's telling us some of the things that worked for him.He that tilleth his land shall be satisfied with bread.you need to till,to work.Even those that ate free manna had to go out and gather EVERY DAY.Faith without work is dead.Its not real faith.You could keep claiming and saying all you want,but you need to till,work,prepare,plan.Face what you are learning squarely and be the best.God does not appreciate laziness or mediocrity.Be purposeful and excellent like Daniel.Be wise and diligent like Solomon.Be faithful and persistent like Isaac.You are already on the ladder of success.Don't follow empty headed persons.Don't be slack.Don't be foolish.Don't lose faith.See you at the top.

Thats what the Bible said

@toneyb
Go and do your own findings to be sure.There's no point coming to the net to laugh hysterically or pass cynical remarks about what you dont even have a vague idea of.Don't waste your life on them say

So kunle,are you saying that anyone who pays tithes is not a christian?

Christ did not stay away from church.He was a constant and recognised figure in church while on earth,and it was in the midst of Pharisees and priests.He did not isolate Himself and by going to read the bible at some secluded house.He stayed in churrch and did a lot to correct the wrong ones straight in their face with wisdom

If you can believe,you'll see the glory of God.okija_juju has mentioned some impressive names of known people with the the power of God present in their ministries.You could do your personal research(es).It should help your faith

You very welcome

@JJYOU
Sure, two good heads are better than one.

anonimi,christians consider tithes as a type of sowing to reap greater things.

anonimi:
You are rather the one exaggerating and twisting what has been written here and repeated just above here by Kunle, i.e.:

No one will go to hell if he pays tithe (10%) of his own volition without been coerced subtly or overtly to do so in reference to scriptures, especially Mal.3.
However, any pastor who compels his congregation to pay tithe or any other offering compulsorily cannot even be described as a CHRISTian and the words and works of Christ and His early Apostles as recorded in the New Testament are clear on this.
Maybe you want to dust up your Bible and read it again rather than feeding on the distortions spewed out by those who have made money-making their business under God's name.

You're always funny or is it phoney.Why would you quote me and say you're quoting kunle,and then say that I am twisting kunle's words,and then you go ahead to remix/twist my words

February 11 Proverbs 11v14

Pro 11:14 Where there is no wisdom, the people fall; but in the multitude of wise men there is safety.

Naturally,man has the inclination for independence.We want to do it on our own.As much as possible,we would prefer not to ask.Most people who ask ususlly do so because of past experiences(personal and known) of the limitations of not asking.Man is created a social being.He needs fellowship.He needs others.It is not good that man
should be alone.Where no counsel is,the people fall.Two heads are better than one. Lets learn to tap from others.No single person knows it all.Don't carry all the world's load on your head.get counsel.There is safety in the multitude of counselors.Get GODLY counsel around you.Overcome shyness and pride as the case may be.
Learn to listen to others.

@toneyb
i said foolish questions.Questions like who was the twelfth guy?

@jdosss

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

It may help if you read it this way

And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

@bawolomo
If you need powers from God,all you need do is simply receive Jesus truly into your life.The Bible says as many as received Him,to them He gave power.Thats the way to begin your power journey.But with power,you'll also need other fruits of the spirit like humility and purity

EEEH YAAAAAAAAAA,don't be depressed my guy.Put your absolute trust in God,not in man.Thats when you will not be disappointed.You just make certain of your relationship with God in line with the Bible.Make sure you're serving Him right and keeping His commands.Only God can direct you to a church that will take you to heaven.Infact you yourself know some churches that might direct you to heaven,onlly that you do not wish to go there.Its what they call itchy ears.But to be sincere,I've been to some churches,itsnot everybody that always preach tithes.All the ssame,i must tell you,you have a lot odf supporters and loud mouthed friends here on nairaland.Don't allow them to send you out of church o

If you don't have an alternative for the so called gullible,then stop erasing their belief.You should seek to edify,not dampen people's spirit and beliefs and turn them into atheists.That is if you're a christian o.Let all things be done to edification

If early christians had done that,I do not think,"saints" and "sinners" alike would have worshipped together in the same church.

Is this a joke? Where did you hear this one in the early church

The Lord still works signs and wonders today.As I said,if you can believe,you will see.God is not raining massive judgement on anybody because we are in the period that the Bible tags as the period of grace.Jesus came with that grace and the grace is available for everyone to repent of their ways and believe on/in Jesus for salvation.

February 10 Proverbs 10:2
Pro 10:2 Treasures of wickedness profit nothing; but righteousness delivers from death. MKJV
A treasure is valuable,useful,special and important.But treasures of wickedness profit nothing.There is no gain in wickedness.The wicked are the sinners.They are classified before God as wicked.They do not follow God,therefore automatically,they follow the devil,the wicked one.He is their father.All their most
prized things, their most useful treasures and things of interest are of no profit in the end.Only righteousness is profitable in the long run.It is only righteousness that can deliver from death.Death here means eternal seperation from God.That means then that,without righteousness,you cannot be delivered from being eternally seperated from the Father (God). Righteousness is not just for your pastor or for some particular denominationin town.Righteousness is for you.It is necessary.It delivers from death.Seek God's righteousness,there is no profit in even the treasures(most valuable things) of wickedness.

@donnie

That is why we are commanded to preach the gospel in and out of season so that all will hear for until it is preached as a witness to all nations, Christ will not come.

Matthew 24:14 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
There's a 'lidu' difference between what you just said and what the Lord said

Kunle,stop being paranoid,paying tithes is not an heresy.You're exaggerating issues.I've told you before.No one will go to hell because he paid tithes.Heretics are running to hell

@bawolomo
You've got some of your 'points' upside down and ot all correct.Anyway,the people of old believed in God and lived lives that pleased God but most people in our days do not have faith.They doubt God.They doubt what God can do and even what He did in the past,maybe because they now know some science.God is not a magician,He honours faith.If we have faith and are faithful,we can still see the works of God.There are testimonies of God's work in some people's life and ministry today still.If you can believe,you will see the glory of God

@Horus
The writers of the Bible range from Moses to John.What they wrote is God's Word.I don't think its simpler than that

go and read your copy of the Bible and stop asking foolish questions,lazy boys