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Jenwitemi: Getting ultra pedantic to win an argument? I am not interested going that avenue with you, mate. The sun rises is what everybody on earth says because that is what we see from our own perspective. You are free to say it in your own way. End of.You were already on the ultra pedantic avenue on 'free will'. You chose the meaning that suits you without regard to the christian's/biblical meaning. |
Give the devil a inch, he'll take a mile. Give the devil's children some crumbs, they'll gather themselves to forcefully take the loaf and your life. Bunch of miscreants. |
Kunle dey quote. Copy and paste champion. You should do things with purpose, not just copycat. If you guys had questions on the questions i asked you, you should have felt free to ask instead of galloping to head-jarring conclusions. |
Hahahahahahaha. i think myself happy i responded to this thread, it's got me laughing for hours. Well done, invigilator debosky. Haheheheheheheheheho. |
Pastor Kun: Don't mind the clown, he as only succeeded in digging himself deeper into a pit. Unfortunately his cohorts like snowwy and olaadegbu who should help him out have scampered having themselves realised there are too many errors associated with modern day tithing. |
Goshen360: After quoting what next? You no wan talk ni? Abi your hand don fall ni as you don chew pass wetin your mouth fit contain.lol. |
nuclearboy: @Kunle: |
"And the governor said, WHY, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified." (Matthew 27:23). |
bigd4050: Ok, fair enough. People and angels can lose something that they didn't earn. Still don't understand how that refutes my point about salvation.It refutes your point that salvation cannot be lost simply BECAUSE it was not earned. |
Jenwitemi: Sunrise has already earned it's name by RISING in the east, brethren. And it does that every blessed day.Except that it actually does not move or rise anywhere. It's the earth that is said to be doing the movement. Are you in J.S.S1? |
"And being made perfect, he became the author of ETERNAL salvation unto all them that obey him;" (Hebrews 5:9). Eternal salvation is CONDITIONED on obedience. Let these sayings sink deep into your ears. Salvation can be lost. |
bigd4050: It is the spiritual realm. What does this have to do with salvation or this conversation?We showed that something can be lost that you didn't do anything to get, you guys said that's physical. So, here is spiritual. geddit? |
^ A person can be predestined to conform to Christ without going to Heaven, you can actually partake of the heavenly gift and of the powers of the age to come without going to Heaven. It actually happens here on earth, God's will can be done on earth. God predestines the set of people that choose to believe and repent. There is no forgiveness of sins without repentance. Predestination is like a company policy. Those who we employ are going to be trained for Xweeks, travel to Germany for Zweeks and be made grade Y management staff. That's what's going to happen to the recruits. But to be recruited is another matter. We don't say "the company's selected who they want to select, they even have laid out plans and salaries for their people". |
Yes, and sunrise will earn its name only on the day that the Sun stands and rises up. Nonsense gospel according to jenwit |
Do you have an idea of the number of questions you plan on asking me? i sincerely do not want to 'forever' talk tithe tithe tithe. |
Goshen360: @ Image123,i know that God means what He says. Sometimes God is specific and detailed like when He gave instructions for building of the ark, some times, He's not like when He says if your eye offend you, cut it off. It takes a relationship with God and a balanced knowledge of God's Word(the Bible) to understand God more and grow in His knowledge. Not A1 in English. |
Before the thing derail pass recognition. The verse simply states that John the baptist was the greatest man ever in God's sight/estimation. This greatest was due to John's task of being Christ's forerunner. But the least person in God's kingdom is greater than the greatest man. Strive to be in that kingdom. Humans strive spending years, money, life and energy to achieve things on earth. But the things which are not seen are eternal. |
Man being created in God's image encapsulates man having free will. |
[quote author=i.chuka]What did i add,abi your Bible no complete? For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son....and those He predestined,He also Called,those He called,He also justified,those He Justified,He also Glorified...Romns8:29-30. We have been Called,Chosen,Justified and even Glorified in Christ before the of the world.....Ephns1:6..For He chose us in Him(Christ) before the creation of the world to be Holy and blameless in His sight.in love He predestined us to adopted as His sons through Jesus Christ,IN ACCORDANCE WITH HIS PLEASURE AND WILL TO BE THE PRAISE OF HIS GLORIOUS GRACE.[/quote]This your quote is what God predestined us to. Don't add that He predestined us to go to Heaven, or to not lose salvation. |
Zikkyy: With God naAaargh, help me ask them, they're online na. |
Kay 17: I can argue that I'm a prisoner to lawsAnd you can argue that you've got some freedom? |
Image123: Good. We're almost there. Let's have it ALL on this thread, not a huge fan of OPs. Don't worry, i'm not going to derail the thread, the thread's closed from your end. I just need kunle to yes it on this thread, then each of you's answers to the ten or so questions. I'm not even going to reply or rebut your answers. Take deep breaths, question come up tomorrow morning IF kunle has agreed to answer on this thread. i thank you all sincerely, good night. |
Image123: If you insist, i also like this questioning business. Permit me to ask about 10 questions. I need individual answers from you Goshen, Nuclearboy, Jem1 and Kunle. i need answers from each one of you, then i'll answer your tithe questions. Deal? |
Goshen360: @ Nuclearboy,It's your turn to post, not mine. Re-read the terms and conditions. |
Zikkyy: Well the 'koko' of what these guys are telling you is that God already prepared a list of those he want saved. The list was prepared even before your mother gave birth to you. So if you like go to church, speak in multiple languages, tithe and dance 'azonto', you are a 'goner' if your name is not on that listWhere is that list? Is there supplementary list? Have they seen that list? Who told them about that list? |
"And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect’s sake those days shall be shortened. " (Matthew 24:22). If salvation cannot be lost, those days need not be shortened. The elect could well live 969years and not lose nothing. Let these sayings sink deep in your ears, salvation can be lost, |
Kay 17: @image123Cockroaches fly too. Are you a free man or a prisoner? |
bigd4050: That is like me saying that God created the universe from nothing. And then you saying "something has never come from nothing, we have this whole world as an example". I get what your trying to say, but when you compare God's nature and salvation, which are not definable by the world, to something material here on this earth, it doesn't work. Sure, you have given a great example to show what your trying to say, but it doesn't even brush up against what I'm saying because we are arguing two different realms. Your logic works here on this earth. I am talking about spiritual things."And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day." (Jude 1:6). Is this also the spiritual realm? |
5solas: A very sound post.Can you show us this clarity from scriptures, or it's only revealed to the esoteric few? |
[quote author=i.chuka]For those God foreknew He also predestined to be conformed to the likeness of His Son....and those He predestined,He also called;those He called,He also justified;those He justified,He also glorified.what,then shall we say in response to this?if God is for us,who can be against us?......who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen?it is God justified...Romns8:29-33. I wonder how those who are called,chosen and justified can lose their Salvation. @bigd great write up.[/quote]Bigd's write up was poor and filled with error. God wants ALL to be saved, there are actually Bible verses that say that. How can he say that man cannot decide to have faith? Why all the admonition by Jesus to His disciples to have faith and not doubt? Nobody is predestinated to go to Heaven or to salvation. We are predestinated to be conformed into the image of Christ. Stop adding to the Word. |
Maybe if it was his name in the verse, the confusion no go dey. |
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