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[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=610995.msg7827179#msg7827179 date=1299030825]being dark skinned is seen as a negative thing more among blacks than among whites. many whites i've met find dark skin to be beautiful. totally opposite of what we blacks think about ourselves!! at least this is my experience anyway yes whites definitely had a role in the inferiorit complex that we have but we are the ones who have to step up to change it.[/quote]Yes, we really do need to step up and change it ![]() |
Smh, the ignorance in this thread is staggering . |
[quote author=A.D.M. link=topic=610995.msg7825003#msg7825003 date=1299006441]Self-hatred exist everywhere unfortunately. In Latin America, black is seen by some as ugly, too (don't know why some only think it's a U.S. thing). Sammy Sosa is just one example. Most Dominicans are of African descent and some recognize it and embrace it. But if you call one black, a lot of them will get offended and say, "I'm not black, I'm Latino." It's not just African descendants and Africans. People in India still think there's a caste system depending on complexion. There was controversy in India a couple years ago involving a commercial promoting a skin bleaching product. It showed a dark-skinned man being sad and depressed. After he used the product, he became happy and women flocked to him. In Korea, there are women who get plastic surgery to make their eyes look "Western." That's obviously a code word for white or European. No matter how you look at it, it's all very sad. As for outrage about Beyonce, I don't see it, so I guess it'll be buried.[/quote]Yes, you are correct. Self hatred exists all over the world. [flash=400,300] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6oaEHsdhOs[/flash] [flash=400,300] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YBukJHyV_sk&feature=related[/flash] |
[quote author=Jenifa_ link=topic=610995.msg7824569#msg7824569 date=1299002058]cap28, so why do you think white fashion designers prefer to use dark skin black girls sometimes over light skin ones? whereas black entertainers prefer to use light skin or mixed models. to me the promotion of mixed race women as being more beautiful (at least presently) is propagated by we blacks ourselves!!! not by whites. most black entertainers will tell you in a heart beat that they prefer lighter skin, long straight hair girls in their videos etc. majority of their audience is black by the way. case in point: I think a dark skinned african looking girl with nappy hair will be found more beautiful by whites than by blacks. which goes back to Ndipe's comment that we need to embrace our selves before asking other races to do the same.[/quote]Jenifa_, I wouldn't say they prefer to use dark skinned models more than light skinned models. Usually the designers who choose to us a lot of dark skinned models are just trying to make a statement gain a lot of attention for their shows--its not necessarily because they prefer the darker models. When I go to fashion week with my sister when she interviews designers , yes I do see some dark models but for the most part, dark skin is still seen as a negative thing. I will agree with you on one thing though, we as black people do perpetuate those about beauty. . .White people do have a role in it though. Initially during slavery [in the US], black people were always made to feel inferior about their features [by white people] and in turn we have internalized it. There were even laws in the us that forbid black people from showing their hair in public because white people felt that black hair was offensive. Those individuals who see people of mixed heritage and admire their beauty because of that do it because of those feelings they've internalized-- people who looked or possessed features that were close or similar to a white person were see as better because to them it seemed that they were closest to being white. Have you ever heard people say "Light and bright and damn near white"? The whole thin is just one sickening never ending cycle. |
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ogugua88:lol ![]() cap28:Gradually? These feelings of self hatred have always exiswted since Europeans came and shoved their views on beauty down our throats. Even my own gran mother, although I love her, at times she makes comments here and there about certain features on Black people being unappealing and in the same breath she'll praise the same features of a Caucasian. These views that are nothing new to people of color . |
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Odunnu:lol ok, well one day when I was in high school I drank about 3 larges cups of tea in the morning. So, I left my house and by the time I walked to the bus stop, I needed to ummm pee . I figured I'd hold it in till I got to school. By the time the bus got to the train station, I was ready to explode!!! I then got on the train and normally it takes just a few minutes to get to school by train but since I was running late, I ended up taking the train during the rush hour crowd . The train kept stopping and going because of delays. Unfortunately when I got to the station before my stop, I couldn't hold it any longer and some of it started coming out. I've never felt so sad and embarrassed . |
Damn, that is bringing back a really bad memory right now ![]() |
[quote author=A.D.M. link=topic=610995.msg7817638#msg7817638 date=1298911504]Excellent comment, but you make it sound like there's no racism or bigotry in other parts of the world. You live in Europe. You mean to tell me there's no bigotry in Europe including jolly old England? Look at the anti-Muslim sentiment in Europe. It's huge! I assume you've heard of the BNP. By the way, not every black person in the Western Hemisphere, whether they're American or Dominican, hate being black. Most are not like Sammy Sosa.[/quote]I don't think cap28 meant that there isn't racism in over parts of the world. Of course we know it exists elsewhere--its just that the way race is viewed in the US is different from how race is viewed in let's say Europe or Africa. |
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. I figured I'd hold it in till I got to school. By the time the bus got to the train station, I was ready to explode!!! I then got on the train and normally it takes just a few minutes to get to school by train but since I was running late, I ended up taking the train during the rush hour crowd