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Breaking news. They got him in an ambulance.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/20/us/boston-marathon-bombings.html?hp&_r=0#comments


More. Somewhat comprehensive.
http://gawker.com/5995042/everything-we-know-about-the-alleged-boston-bombers?tag=marathon-bombing

naijababe: Isale, you are doing some 'ojoro' here. I saw your first post. Don't you worry, someday you will get to meet him if you want to

You know me. Two steps forward, one step back.

Hmmm. I am reading. I know a few things. . .but so much more I didn't know. It's kinda hard for me to read so much personal stuff about someone I know - especially about tough times.

One thing I want to say - not sure how much you already know or had figured out - we weren't raised as "religiously" as you. For example, we never had to wake up and do Salat. lol. We did Ramadan, and didn't even have to wake up at dawn to eat out food. . . we were never hijabis. . .my dad wasn't really big on "too much religion.". . . just be a good person and live a scrupulously ethical and moral life with integrity, and know from whom you came. lol.

So, I guess we never had anything to rebel against. My dad was strict, don't get me wrong. Stiflingly so, but being a very conservative and serious person from childhood, it didn't bother me. But all in all, we didn't feel any strain from being Muslims. (I liked being a Muslim and still do - whether I will be considered one by someone else I could care less.) There's so much I could say, but I think you get my drift.

I will tell you that despite my ribbing you, I have no issues with your choice and am not of the mentality that you must be a Muslim. This is probably scandalous but, I don't have a problem with anyone's religion or lack thereof. I don't even have a problem with atheists. I've met some decent people who did not believe in God (which I know you never claimed to be) and am sure we've all met too many horrible and hypocritical "saved" persons and self-proclaimed people "of god." So, I'll take a good person, whatever they may be.

I will try to read the rest.

Got it.

New York Times Interview With Suspects’ Father


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWk0Qh7DOPc&feature=player_embedded

Here is a transcript of a telephone interview with Anzor Tsarnaev, the father of the suspects in the Boston Marathon bombings, conducted Friday by Ellen Barry and Andrew Roth of The New York Times’s Moscow bureau.
Q.

Anything strange when you last spoke to your sons?
A.

Nothing strange, nothing at all. Everything is normal, everything is well, nothing new. Everything was thought up there…. Something is wrong. They have been framed. I am watching TV and cannot believe it. What are they talking about Watertown? He didn’t live there…. How could he live there? This is where the lie begins, why are they saying this crap?

Dzhokhar has not been in Russia since 2001. Tamerlan did come. He came to renew his passport. He stayed here and left, but did not want to go. He wanted to stay here because it was hard for him to work there.
Q.

Did he want to stay in Russia?
A.

Yes, he wanted to stay. He looked around, what the life is here, and he wanted to stay. He said I speak English now, I can work as a translator and start some business here and go to China. He had this kind of plans.
Q.

How long did he stay with you?
A.

Yes, he was here for six months. He had to wait for a new passport to be issued.
Q.

Was he in Makhachkala?
A.

Yes, he was in Makhachkala. Makhachkala, he was never out my sight. He used to sleep till lunchtime, then we visited relatives. We went to Chechnya to visit relatives. He only communicated with me and his cousins. There was nobody (else). People know. I would ask him, did you come here to sleep or what?
Q.

Did he go to Turkey?
A.

What Turkey? He has never been to Turkey. These are all lies. He must have a passport…. He did not go anywhere.
Q.

Did he want to be an American citizen?
A.

He wanted to, of course. Why not?
Q.

But it didn’t work out, right?
A.

Because with his girlfriend, there was a scandal. He hit her lightly. He was locked up for half an hour. There was jealousy there. He paid $250, that was it, he went home. Because of that — in America you can’t touch a woman, they wouldn’t give him citizenship.
A.

Because of that they didn’t give him citizenship?
Q.

He had gone through the interview, that was it. But they said, he said, they will check the federal authorities, when they check me they will give it. He would have been granted it, he passed the interview. Now we have a new system where they check young people. Because he is a Muslim, I think, and a Chechen, too.
Q.

Was he disappointed?
A.

No, he said, ‘Dad, I don’t have to go anywhere!’ He works, his wife works, he has a child, they will give it to him! He didn’t want to come (here). He had plans of his own. How could he leave everything and go?
Q.

Was he offended by the fact that they did not give him a chance?
A.

No! No! Why would he be offended? He could come and go, arrive and leave as he wished.
Q.

Did Dzhokhar want to be a citizen?
A.

He is already a citizen of America. He is an American citizen.
Q.

So he already had his citizenship?
A.

He was coming for the holidays. He told me to do a visa. I was making a visa.
Q.

Did they love America?
A.

Of course a person loves it.
Q.

Why did you not go the States?
A.

I wanted to but I got sick. I was very sick. I thought I would die, so I thought I would better be buried here. They checked me and said I was healthy as an ox, but I was losing weight. I weighed only 50 kilos. I lost about 40 kilograms, and I had strong pains inside. I had a pancreatic problem and a hematoma in my head. I needed a surgery.
Q.

Did your kids suffer from the war?
A.

No, my children did not see the war. They grew up in Kyrgyzstan.
Q.

They never saw the war?
A.

Yes, we left, ran away from the war. We did not need it, you see?
Q.

Where are you from in Chechnya?
A.

We never lived in Chechnya.
Q.

So you were Chechens living in Dagestan?
A.

Once I arrived, I’ve been living here for a year. I wanted to leave, but I was waiting for my son to come for vacation so that we could go back together.
Q.

Your brothers in the States, they say something very different about your sons.
A.

Well, we quarreled long time ago…. We were not on speaking terms.
Q.

They sound like they believe your sons did this.
A.

What can they say if they did not see them for five or six years? They are just blabbing what they know nothing about. How can they speak about them if they did not see them for a long time? If they kill him now….
Q.

How many members of your family ended up in America?
A.

Four children and parents.
Q.

And your brothers?
A.

My brother sent me an invitation … but we were not planning to stay. But the time was such, the circumstances, persecution. You must know, there was a hunt for Chechens as for wolves in the woods.
Q.

Did your children feel like Russians or Americans?
A.

Well, children, they get adjusted. Russia was like a fantasy for them. If a child has not grown up here, how can he think or dream about Russia?
Q.

Did you or your relatives work for law enforcement bodies before the war?
A.

Yes, they did. They worked for the prosecutor’s office.
Q.

In Chechnya?
A.

Yes, they were lawyers, all of them.
Q.

What is your family’s attitude to Kadyrov (the president of Chechnya)?
A.

Very good attitude. My sister was an outstanding lawyer of Kyrgyzstan, she moved there. She is in Chechnya now because everything has straightened out. The life has gotten better, as it should be. Nobody wants a war.
A.

What did the investigators want to ask you about?
A.

The investigators didn’t talk much. They were not concerned about anything. They asked what and how, just like you.
Q.

Did you hear anything from the Russian leaders, Kadyrov?
A.

I can’t think about anything like that. Seeing my child on television — he has never been to any Watertown, it is nonsense. It is nonsense. My child lives in Cambridge, first of all.
Q.

What is his character?
A.

He has the character of the best person who could exist. Anyone who sees him falls in love with him. Dzhokhar, he is a gift from Allah, not just because he is my son — he is like an angel, this child. The Americans know him better than I do. They taught him. He was in the newspapers everywhere: he was excellent, good, kind. He worked all the time. In his extra moments, he worked so that things would not be difficult for us, his parents. He didn’t keep a penny for himself. This kind of child. You understand.
Q.

Tamerlan was also calm like that?
A.

He was also a kind man. He was also a kind man.
Q.

I understand that your younger son took the will of Tamerlan like a law. Was that always true?
A.

Dzhokhar listened to Tamerlan, of course. He also listened to us. From childhood, it was that way. He had his own head on his shoulders. He was a very gifted person. He had a gift of kindness, calmness, fairness, you understand, goodness? For him to do what they’re saying, it doesn’t fit him at all, it is not possible. Not at all.
Q.

Did they go to mosque regularly, both of them?
A.

He used to bring him, Tamerlan would bring him to Friday prayers. The child, he smoked. I would occasionally find cigarettes in his pockets or his room. What kind of radicalism are they talking about? I caught him with a cigarette two or three times.
Q.

There is a feeling that in recent time they came, especially Tamerlan, became more devout?
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As CNN reported, Anzor Tsarnaev made similar charges, that his sons had been framed, in an interview with Russian state television on Friday. Mr. Tsarnaev also said that he had been questioned by the Russian security services.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/19/updates-on-aftermath-of-boston-marathon-explosions-2/#new-york-times-interview-with-suspects-father

Cutest goshdarn terrorist ever! Don't kill him please. We'll give you Fstranger instead. Who knows how many crimes against humanity he's committed in his young life.

http://gawker.com/5995110/the-hunt-for-dzhokar-tsarnaev-live-updates

https://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2013/04/20/us/20suspect2/20suspect2-custom1.jpg


P.S.
New York Times interviewed the father! But those &^$^%(O#@ won't let me read it - something about reaching my max articles for the month. Anyone that can, post it here for us. Please and thanks.

http://thelede.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/04/19/updates-on-aftermath-of-boston-marathon-explosions-2/

Ola one: She carry front . . . she carry back . . . she's well packaged. You can't leave her

You must be high. Who are you talking about? Who's in Philly?


Anyway, I'm only interested in this Boston situation right now.
Live updates of the search in Watertown, Mass.: http://gawker.com/5995034

Side story: http://gawker.com/5995027/unluckiest-luckiest-man-survives-both-marathon-bombing-and-waco-blast

wonlasewonimi: Now I surrender. I am who you all say I am. Isale gan am binu. Debosky ma binu

I have turned a new leaf...the boston bombing changed me!

I have never been mad at you. Whoever you are.

Ola one: Leader of the island that colonized Uncle Sam. And once owned 1/4th of Planet Earth. Awon Americans yi sha.

Rich boy, I'm not Ahmrikan! I just don't have much interest in Nollywood rubbish. Gimme a good Yoruba movie so I can have a meaningful cultural experience.

Ola one:
Most influential people in the world: Omotola Jolade makes the list. . .

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2311222/David-Cameron-fails-make-cut-Timess-list-100-influential-people-world.html

I'm not reading that, and I don't know who that is.

OAM4J: lol... na cos I gave you a clue. You and isale didnt know before. talk true so we dont demote you to level 10

What. Are. You. Talking. About?

OAM4J: lol

check this out: www.nairaland.com/attachments/1068365_security_purpose____jpgd2999a31af2f371251386421b8189acc

NB's prized possession.
OK OK I promised to stop try to stop picking on her.

Katsumoto: Understanding the language is one thing, understanding culture is another.

True talk, eniyan mi.

Katsumoto: Is there like a mini isale eko in the US similar to chinatown?

Not in Georgia; but I understand HoustonTX might pass. I will be visiting there this year sha.

naijababe: Y'all please leave wonlasewonimi, I don't quite think he knows that some of us know that we know who he is despite his best attempts

We're cool, I think. And you don't know who anyone is.

tbaba1234: As for naijababe, only Allah guides.

I was kidding about Naijababe o. I no want trouble. I tend to pick on her way too much. I will work on that.

But I am also enjoying her write-up.

Awesome dad you've got, NB.

[quote author=Kilode?!]There is nothing cuter on Nairaland than Isale's pretend-angst [/quote]Who's pretending?

Anyway. Iya mi Naijababe,. We will do our best to cleanse our land. We will.

Now, before I forget, I want to go on record that I agree with Kasumu (lol @ Kasumu, Debosky is my new Hero, walahi!) on the issue of Yetunde's sister, Serena.



There is no man in that Woman

And, before I forget. . .
Great thread for those with foot fetishes. Click this; there's a surprise there.
https://www.nairaland.com/1260114/post-nice-unique-shoes/6#15293177

My favourite: https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif
https://www.nairaland.com/1260114/post-nice-unique-shoes/14#15300752

naijababe: All these fake Lagosians sha.

Kilode, I reckon Isale should keep her blue pali and leave us green pali holders in peace

LEMME TELL YOU SOMETHING, Scottish Awori! My children will be born in Naijiriya. Come hell or high water, when the time comes, I will get on that plane as big as a giant ball and I shall ensure my pikins are birthed on the same island where my iya and baba and their iya and baba were born and bred! Omo Eko for life! Awon omo Ogun State, probably fake Naijas, should watch their tongues!

Y'all please leave wonlasewonimi, I don't quite think he knows that some of us know that we know who he is despite his best attempts

I don't have a problem with that strange poster - in fact I have unconditional love for him - as long as he behaves himself. You must be displacing your wrath onto moi.

[quote author=Kilode?!]They are not worried about him. He never left really [/quote]I know he never really left; was funning, ol' man.

Thread is just active cos we were talking about nothing - the thread about nothing. Never underestimate "nothing." It did a lot of something for Seinfeld.

[quote author=Kilode?!]The Orisa's PMed me about too many Ogberi's running around on here.

Isale, Ki lo n sele? What is going on here? [/quote]What's an "ogberi"? Ogbenis?

Your favourite NLer came back on a time travel and is trying to mindf*** everyone as usual.

debosky: I will have to make an official petition to Seun - anyone who uses the term Dobosky to refer to be should receive an instant 5 month ban.

Just spoiling my reputation anyhow. E ma so mi l'oruko ki e de ma ba oja je fun mi ojare.

Will no one tell me who this wonlasewonimi dude is?

Hiya, Kosovo!

maclatunji: It is not really my job na. Don't make it look as if it is. You don't really post in this section anymore madam- what happened?

Whose fault? Naijababe's, of course.

That reminds me! I was looking at some old threads and realised that SWEETNECTA (and many others whose names I can't recall) is no longer posting. Very disappointing. It seems Religion section mods may have driven him away. Honestly, Seun needs to get his act together. In Politics and other sections, quality posters are few and far between. I probably stepped away from Islam section once the Muslim-haters appeared to be firmly in control - most threads were started by them and they took on the prominent role in the section, while our own Jarus took naps. I trust you and your co-mod are gradually rebuilding. . .

Naijababe is born and raised Muslim o. Maclatunji, try and get her back in the fold. Her beloved and long-suffering daddy will thank you. And I will buy a big house little cottage from you when I land in Lagos, OK?

Salaam, bros.

naijababe:


My friend, why are you seeing so much red?

Talk to your Ajepaki brother, not me!

BTW, don't use my smileys! Tell Seun to add more of his own smileys! https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/14.gif

naijababe: https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif

wonlasewonimi: Isale can we friends with benefits?

Behave yourself, you lunatic.

birdman: I draw the line at initiation . I'm not flying anywhere tonight

[s]Initiation? That's just a line he uses on gullible women[/s]. . .

OAM4J: No wahala, next time I will ask Ola-one, the new love of your life to ask you

Awww. Don't be like that.

So you were serious about the links? Sorry o, oga. You know I'd do anything for you.

Katsumoto: What are you on about? You really have had a drink.

OAM4J: Isale can you please supply the links to those tests include the recent one on levels, lets know how close she is to God, so I will know the number of cleansing baths she need for baptism.

Whatchutalkinbout Willis?!

In sequence:

OAM4J: I take that as Yes. Now your initiation begins: Tell us a little about you, you can start from when you were born till now. Dont forget to tell us many of your 1st-times, your experiences and specialties.

my Sister-in-the-Lord Isale will give you the link to the part II of your initiation, before your final baptism by me The Most Snr Bishop OAM4J

[quote author=isale_gan2]Listen to this married man.

And in the same breath he'll be outing Debo n Kats. SMH for you.


Don't do it, Deborah! Keep your pennies for the tube! He doesn't know squat. [/quote]

naijababe: See your life for outside, Debo

Katsumoto: Check out the literal translation.

Take dat!

Katsumoto: I quoted NB. Have you had a drink this afternoon?

Despite your and Naijababe's efforts, I have not yet been driven to the bottle. Alhamdulillahi! God is great!https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/63.gif

cap28: THE GREAT MAN HIMSELF!!!!!!


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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yr6iHd-1XUM&feature/related[/flash]

cap28: ^^^^^

YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND ANYTHING ABOUT BLACK NATIONALISM BECAUSE YOU ARE A BRAINWASHED HOUSE NEGRO, ALL YOU DO IS MAKE EXCUSES FOR THE TYRANNY OF YOUR OPPRESSOR - GET OFF YOUR F.CKING KNEES AND LEARN TO BE A PROUD BLACK MAN NOT AN APOLOGIST FOR WHITE SUPREMACY.

Biko found black men like you totally repugnant - thats why he described them as men in form only - he was talking about you.

Ever since i have debated with you all you have ever done is defend capitalism, defend privatisation, defend the free market - policies which have brought africa to its knees - every free thinking black man knows that capitalism is destroying the world but you think its the best thing ever invented by your white master - Biko wanted aparthied south africa to redistribute the wealth it had stolen - when i debated this issue with you you defended the white minority and said they had every right to hold on to their stolen wealth, remember? YOU ARE A LIAR AND A TRAITOR TO THE BLACK RACE - YOU HAVE NO SENSE OF BLACK PRIDE.

Capitalism is not a consequence of racism - capitalism CREATES racism - capitalism enables those who own the means of production to control the lives of those who produce wealth, it allows a small powerful elite to exploit and hoard wealth and divide people along racial lines - the slave traders in america used their wealth to consolidate themselves in power and subjugate and oppress black african slaves, white south africans used their wealth and power to consolidate themselves while keeping black south africans in a position of permanent subjugation - this model has been repeated all over africa.


By the way black nationalism is about securing the interests of BLACK people first NOT black and white people - its about putting the well being and interests of blacks BEFORE the interests of any other race - THAT IS WHAT THE WHITE RACE DOES AND THAT IS WHY THEY ARE SO POWERFUL. Only brainwashed blacks talk about including people of other races, why didnt the chinese talk about integrating with europeans in order to develop as a people?

you are so far gone that whenever a proud black person speaks out about the necessity to unite and develop as one people you call it "black extremism" - thats a sign of inferiority and subservience to the white man's social conditioning.

Biko saw capitalism as a form of white supremacy whose aim was to keep black south africans in perpetual mental and economic bondage and he railed against it and advocated WEALTH REDISTRIBUTION OR SOCIALISM - capitalism EVERYWHERE IN THE WORLD creates inequality not just in south africa but that is not the only reason why biko rejected it - his major reason for rejecting it was because of the evil that manifests from it - this is something that you are yet to understand because you have been brow beaten by the white man's educational system to think that it is the only viable economic model to follow - this is why you defend it even though you are a victim of it.
I can see taht you are now backpedalling and have now resorted to denying that you are an apologist of capitalism - what a shame!

i can also see taht you are trying to make things up as you go along - what is a black free thinker?

is that your own way of saying you dont know what you are talking about?

what ideology binds a black free thinker - can you define what that ideology is?

what do you term black extremism and why?

on the one hand you say black extremism is not based on anything then you confuse yourself further by saying that the black extremist beleives that the answer lies at the extreme point of an ideology? what on earth are you talking about.

the truth of the matter is this - black nationalism is an ideology based on the ability of the black man to have total control over his destiny which means control over his own politics, education, entertainment, employment, food, law and order, religion, media and defence - once the black man is able to totally control all of those things he is no longer a slave and a pawn in the hands of other races - the white race have total control over all of these things thats why they are in a position of power, the black man has no control over any of those things thats why he is under the heel of the white man - but in your book a black man having control over his own destiny equates to BLACK EXTREMISM - do you see why i call you an uncle tom??

GET UP OFF YOUR KNEES TOM AND GROW A PAIR OF BALLS!!!

Lol. Cap28 himself. Any wonder why you were my first fave on NL. Still going strong. More grease to your elbow, bro.

[quote author=Negro_Ntns]Morpheus,

I read your response to NLT on the question of why your despise of Mr Farrakhan.

I want to caution that in the global struggle for Black resurgence there are many at the forefront who sacrifice self and family to act as a shield of protection against insulting disrespect and threat of surbordination by rival races and Mr Farrakhan is one of those sentries gurading the gateway for us.

Mode of expression come in diverse styles. There are those who find their expression and voice in purely logical order and others who do so using a philosophical approach and yet we have others who must project their physicality forcefully in order to represent. The more we reduce everyone in our race to a narrow and single style of expression, in this case "logical", then the less acceptable it is for original ideas to spring forth for fear of being labeled and denigrated by people like you.

Most of the European philosophers we worship in our so called intellectual "corps de academia" were never educated themselves. Their knowledge were works of inspired thoughts and originality in metaphysical and occultism.

If Homer can be as great a man as he is held the world over, then I see no reason why Mr Farrakhan cannot be appreciated and revered for his wisdom and insights, particularly where his style and approach are crdited with proven and effective results favorable to those under the umbrella of his guardianship. He ought to be a model to others wishing for a "politically sacred" Black race.[/quote]Well said.

Katsumoto: I meant NB's translation (wo aye e ni ta), not yours.

Sorry, doll.

I don't know what coded convo you n NB are conducting. Or maybe, just maybe, you quoted the wrong post!

Katsumoto: Check out the literal translation.

What? Tube means something else? Anyways, I meant what I wrote; not what's in your head.

OAM4J: I take that as Yes. Now your initiation begins: Tell us a little about you, you can start from when you were born till now. Dont forget to tell us many of your 1st-times, your experiences and specialties.

Listen to this married man.

And in the same breath he'll be outing Debo n Kats. SMH for you.

OAM4J: Bribe me Dobosky and I will tell you.

Don't do it, Deborah! Keep your pennies for the tube! He doesn't know squat.

Katsumoto: OAM4J & Isale

Why are you allowing newbies to post before initiation? I need you to censor all new posters - birdman, adaobi. I am not too sure about lafflaff.

https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif https://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/24.gif

I checked out the Birdman; seems legit and sound.

Idowuogbo: Even worse kini? Madam, take ya time o!

Ah! Sorry. You have an excellent grasp of the language. It's your writing that's atrocious.